Why was the cure for homosexuality defended?

[Divine Wind]

Most homosexuals are a result of learnt behavior, not birth. That is a fact. The lgbt movement suppresses this information, but still a fact. Everyone in school or working in the correctional system knows this by observation.

Awesome, then you'll be able to present your facts. Easy, peasy, eh?

The more I read your posts, the more I think you believe you are "turning" gay because of all the LGBT stuff you were seeing. Sorry, dude, but it doesn't work that way.

Ask anyone from an institution or a school. Easy indeed.

Sorry, unlike you, I've never been in prison nor an all-boys juvie school.

 

[anotherlife]

Much much higher than 2 %. Everyone knows at least a few. That puts it to minimum 10 %, but the reality is most likely more like 20 %.

Most homosexuals are a result of learnt behavior, not birth. That is a fact. The lgbt movement suppresses this information, but still a fact. Everyone in school or working in the correctional system knows this by observation.

You hope it's 20% so you'll feel more "normal".

Americans Greatly Overestimate Percent Gay, Lesbian in U.S.

When you come up with actual scientific information, as shown in the article linked below, then I'll concede you are acting upon more than just your personal opinion.

More Evidence Regarding the Causes of Homosexuality

So do you agree that at least half of homosexuals are a learnt behavior?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

What if the actual case is, that homosexuality is a form of personality disorder and not independent of it? Then doctors could investigate it within the personality disorder category. This can be in the national interest too, because the most famous soviet spy ring, the Oxford four, was single handedly responsible for selling Britain's Cold War secrets to the soviets, and they were all homosexual Englishmen. It could be postulated that they would not have been under the compulsion of betraying their home country, had they not been homosexuals.

Human sexuality is already under "investigation". Dude, that's what scientists due is investigate. Homosexuality doesn't have to be declared anything for it to be researched.

It is not 2 % of the population that is homosexual, because most public school boys and juvy graduates have been subjected to homosexual "encouragement" which brings their number up to probably 20 %. What the LGBT movement wants is minimum 50 %.

It's less than 2% regardless how many kids you had pink sword fights with in school.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr036.pdf

Your problem -well, one of your problems- is that you are so ignorant, rigged and narrow minded that you think that people are either gay or straight and that there is nothing else. The fact is that many people are bi sexual on a continuum of gay - straight and can't be easily classified as one or the other.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

What if the actual case is, that homosexuality is a form of personality disorder and not independent of it? Then doctors could investigate it within the personality disorder category. This can be in the national interest too, because the most famous soviet spy ring, the Oxford four, was single handedly responsible for selling Britain's Cold War secrets to the soviets, and they were all homosexual Englishmen. It could be postulated that they would not have been under the compulsion of betraying their home country, had they not been homosexuals.

Human sexuality is already under "investigation". Dude, that's what scientists due is investigate. Homosexuality doesn't have to be declared anything for it to be researched.

It is not 2 % of the population that is homosexual, because most public school boys and juvy graduates have been subjected to homosexual "encouragement" which brings their number up to probably 20 %. What the LGBT movement wants is minimum 50 %.

Do you ever run out of moronic horseshit?

Most homosexuals are a result of learnt behavior, not birth. That is a fact. The lgbt movement suppresses this information, but still a fact. Everyone in school or working in the correctional system knows this by observation.

"learnt" behavior. Have you ever actually read any of the scientific literature on the subject? I'm sure that you have not. You prefer to be willfully ignorant and wallow in your bigotry

 

[anotherlife]

What if the actual case is, that homosexuality is a form of personality disorder and not independent of it? Then doctors could investigate it within the personality disorder category. This can be in the national interest too, because the most famous soviet spy ring, the Oxford four, was single handedly responsible for selling Britain's Cold War secrets to the soviets, and they were all homosexual Englishmen. It could be postulated that they would not have been under the compulsion of betraying their home country, had they not been homosexuals.

Human sexuality is already under "investigation". Dude, that's what scientists due is investigate. Homosexuality doesn't have to be declared anything for it to be researched.

It is not 2 % of the population that is homosexual, because most public school boys and juvy graduates have been subjected to homosexual "encouragement" which brings their number up to probably 20 %. What the LGBT movement wants is minimum 50 %.

Do you ever run out of moronic horseshit?

Most homosexuals are a result of learnt behavior, not birth. That is a fact. The lgbt movement suppresses this information, but still a fact. Everyone in school or working in the correctional system knows this by observation.

"learnt" behavior. Have you ever actually read any of the scientific literature on the subject? I'm sure that you have not. You prefer to be willfully ignorant and wallow in your bigotry

No. I know people who were not gay but they went to juvy and came back gay, because most were gay there. Would it be scientifically correct to call them gay by birth? No because that would be an unsubstantiated assumption to assume that they were born gay then discovered it in prison only. Doesn't make scientific sense. So, most of the time being gay is a learnt behavior, not a born one.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Human sexuality is already under "investigation". Dude, that's what scientists due is investigate. Homosexuality doesn't have to be declared anything for it to be researched.

It is not 2 % of the population that is homosexual, because most public school boys and juvy graduates have been subjected to homosexual "encouragement" which brings their number up to probably 20 %. What the LGBT movement wants is minimum 50 %.

Do you ever run out of moronic horseshit?

Most homosexuals are a result of learnt behavior, not birth. That is a fact. The lgbt movement suppresses this information, but still a fact. Everyone in school or working in the correctional system knows this by observation.

"learnt" behavior. Have you ever actually read any of the scientific literature on the subject? I'm sure that you have not. You prefer to be willfully ignorant and wallow in your bigotry

No. I know people who were not gay but they went to juvy and came back gay, because most were gay there. Would it be scientifically correct to call them gay by birth? No because that would be an unsubstantiated assumption to assume that they were born gay then discovered it in prison only. Doesn't make scientific sense. So, most of the time being gay is a learnt behavior, not a born one.

You are just one more ignoramus who has the understanding and appreciation of the complexity of human sexuality that you would expect of a 13 year old special ed student. Hint. Consider the difference between "lifestyle" which can be fluid, and "sexual orientation" You did know that there is a difference , right? Holy shit! NO? That is (one of ) your problems

 

[MaryL]

In the 70s, the DSM national diagnostic book contained homosexuality as a mental decease, and doctors worked on finding cure for it. Then it was removed. Why is that? Who are the people who want people to be sick? This time it couldn't be the doctors because they lost their funding. Any theories?

I noticed that, too. A precedent would be the AMA selling out to the tobacco industry in the 50's. Our health care system manipulated by outside influences. It happened, doctors used to endorse cigarettes as "healthy" despite all the evidence to the contrary. Money and influence go hand in hand.
Gays are a major power group now with money and political clout. And a major ax to grind as well as an agenda. So, as they say, the truth will OUT one day, it always does.
As cures go, not smoking isn't even a cure for lung cancer. As far as curing homosexuality? It's like curing schizophrenia or any other mental disease.

 

[Divine Wind]

Much much higher than 2 %. Everyone knows at least a few. That puts it to minimum 10 %, but the reality is most likely more like 20 %.

Most homosexuals are a result of learnt behavior, not birth. That is a fact. The lgbt movement suppresses this information, but still a fact. Everyone in school or working in the correctional system knows this by observation.

You hope it's 20% so you'll feel more "normal".

Americans Greatly Overestimate Percent Gay, Lesbian in U.S.

When you come up with actual scientific information, as shown in the article linked below, then I'll concede you are acting upon more than just your personal opinion.

More Evidence Regarding the Causes of Homosexuality

So do you agree that at least half of homosexuals are a learnt behavior?

No. People can engage in homosexual behavior, such as your prison and juvie friends, but when they get out they prefer women. A homosexual act doesn't make a person homosexual just as a homosexual having straight sex, even having children, doesn't make them straight.

 

[Divine Wind]

Your problem -well, one of your problems- is that you are so ignorant, rigged and narrow minded that you think that people are either gay or straight and that there is nothing else. The fact is that many people are bi sexual on a continuum of gay - straight and can't be easily classified as one or the other.

Again, your anger issues blind you to the truth causing you to leap to unwarranted conclusions since I've never said any such thing.

Quote a single post of mine where I say people were either gay or straight. I'll wait.

 

[MaryL]

What if the actual case is, that homosexuality is a form of personality disorder and not independent of it? Then doctors could investigate it within the personality disorder category. This can be in the national interest too, because the most famous soviet spy ring, the Oxford four, was single handedly responsible for selling Britain's Cold War secrets to the soviets, and they were all homosexual Englishmen. It could be postulated that they would not have been under the compulsion of betraying their home country, had they not been homosexuals.

Human sexuality is already under "investigation". Dude, that's what scientists due is investigate. Homosexuality doesn't have to be declared anything for it to be researched.

It is not 2 % of the population that is homosexual, because most public school boys and juvy graduates have been subjected to homosexual "encouragement" which brings their number up to probably 20 %. What the LGBT movement wants is minimum 50 %.

Do you ever run out of moronic horseshit?

Most homosexuals are a result of learnt behavior, not birth. That is a fact. The lgbt movement suppresses this information, but still a fact. Everyone in school or working in the correctional system knows this by observation.

"learnt" behavior. Have you ever actually read any of the scientific literature on the subject? I'm sure that you have not. You prefer to be willfully ignorant and wallow in your bigotry

Over complicating what, exactly? Sex is binary. People are over thinking this. Sexual reproduction IS one thing, but this game people are playing here defies logic. There are various nuances on sex, with 6 sexes now....please, this isn't quantum physics. Only one female and one male can reproduce. Quite simple. Let's don't make this more complicated than that.

 

[Divine Wind]

Human sexuality is already under "investigation". Dude, that's what scientists due is investigate. Homosexuality doesn't have to be declared anything for it to be researched.

It is not 2 % of the population that is homosexual, because most public school boys and juvy graduates have been subjected to homosexual "encouragement" which brings their number up to probably 20 %. What the LGBT movement wants is minimum 50 %.

Do you ever run out of moronic horseshit?

Most homosexuals are a result of learnt behavior, not birth. That is a fact. The lgbt movement suppresses this information, but still a fact. Everyone in school or working in the correctional system knows this by observation.

"learnt" behavior. Have you ever actually read any of the scientific literature on the subject? I'm sure that you have not. You prefer to be willfully ignorant and wallow in your bigotry

Over complicating what, exactly? Sex is binary. People are over thinking this. Sexual reproduction IS one thing, but this game people are playing here defies logic. There are various nuances on sex, with 6 sexes now....please, this isn't quantum physics. Only one female and one male can reproduce. Quite simple. Let's don't make this more complicated than that.

You are correct as to two sexes, but human behavior, specifically sexual preference, is a different, albeit related, topic.

We can discuss biological sex and the reproductive cycle in hard scientific terms, but love? Not so easily done. Sexual fetishes, desires, habits and preferences are different. Some things are choice, but some are not. You didn't choose to be straight and neither did I, but that's the way we are.

 

[MaryL]

It is not 2 % of the population that is homosexual, because most public school boys and juvy graduates have been subjected to homosexual "encouragement" which brings their number up to probably 20 %. What the LGBT movement wants is minimum 50 %.

Do you ever run out of moronic horseshit?

Most homosexuals are a result of learnt behavior, not birth. That is a fact. The lgbt movement suppresses this information, but still a fact. Everyone in school or working in the correctional system knows this by observation.

"learnt" behavior. Have you ever actually read any of the scientific literature on the subject? I'm sure that you have not. You prefer to be willfully ignorant and wallow in your bigotry

Over complicating what, exactly? Sex is binary. People are over thinking this. Sexual reproduction IS one thing, but this game people are playing here defies logic. There are various nuances on sex, with 6 sexes now....please, this isn't quantum physics. Only one female and one male can reproduce. Quite simple. Let's don't make this more complicated than that.

You are correct as to two sexes, but human behavior, specifically sexual preference, is a different, albeit related, topic.

We can discuss biological sex and the reproductive cycle in hard scientific terms, but love? Not so easily done. Sexual fetishes, desires, habits and preferences are different. Some things are choice, but some are not. You didn't choose to be straight and neither did I, but that's the way we are.

Human sexuality is a deep subject, choice isn't optional. Love? I love my grandchildren, I love a sunrise, I love my dog. But I don't rationalize that as a rationalization to have sex with anything I LOVE. Sex and love aren't the same things.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Do you ever run out of moronic horseshit?

Most homosexuals are a result of learnt behavior, not birth. That is a fact. The lgbt movement suppresses this information, but still a fact. Everyone in school or working in the correctional system knows this by observation.

"learnt" behavior. Have you ever actually read any of the scientific literature on the subject? I'm sure that you have not. You prefer to be willfully ignorant and wallow in your bigotry

Over complicating what, exactly? Sex is binary. People are over thinking this. Sexual reproduction IS one thing, but this game people are playing here defies logic. There are various nuances on sex, with 6 sexes now....please, this isn't quantum physics. Only one female and one male can reproduce. Quite simple. Let's don't make this more complicated than that.

You are correct as to two sexes, but human behavior, specifically sexual preference, is a different, albeit related, topic.

We can discuss biological sex and the reproductive cycle in hard scientific terms, but love? Not so easily done. Sexual fetishes, desires, habits and preferences are different. Some things are choice, but some are not. You didn't choose to be straight and neither did I, but that's the way we are.

Human sexuality is a deep subject, choice isn't optional. Love? I love my grandchildren, I love a sunrise, I love my dog. But I don't rationalize that as a rationalization to have sex with anything I LOVE. Sex and love aren't the same things.

I think that most people who do not have a profound mental impairment know that love and sex is not the same thing. Most people who do not have a profound mental impairment do not have the need to tell others that love and sex is not the same thing. However, gay people do desire sex with the one that they love, just like straight people do.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Your problem -well, one of your problems- is that you are so ignorant, rigged and narrow minded that you think that people are either gay or straight and that there is nothing else. The fact is that many people are bi sexual on a continuum of gay - straight and can't be easily classified as one or the other.

Again, your anger issues blind you to the truth causing you to leap to unwarranted conclusions since I've never said any such thing.

Quote a single post of mine where I say people were either gay or straight. I'll wait.

No, you never actually said that. However, you have never mentioned the role of bisexuality or distinguished between lifestyle, which can be fluid for bisexual people, and sexual orientation. That is a failure to adequately address the topic.

 

[Divine Wind]

Human sexuality is a deep subject, choice isn't optional. Love? I love my grandchildren, I love a sunrise, I love my dog. But I don't rationalize that as a rationalization to have sex with anything I LOVE. Sex and love aren't the same things.

Agreed on deep subject. Of course you don't desire to have sex with everything you love. Most people would have understood that if two (or more) consenting adult human beings love each other that sex would be part of the expression of their love.

 

[Divine Wind]

No, you never actually said that. However, you have never mentioned the role of bisexuality or distinguished between lifestyle, which can be fluid for bisexual people, and sexual orientation. That is a failure to adequately address the topic.

Thanks for admitting you lied.

I never mentioned plural marriages, transgenderism, hermaphroditism, asexuality nor onanism either. Why? Because the conversation was strictly about heteorsexuality and homosexuality. Why would I derail it with off-topic tangential forms of human sexuality?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

No, you never actually said that. However, you have never mentioned the role of bisexuality or distinguished between lifestyle, which can be fluid for bisexual people, and sexual orientation. That is a failure to adequately address the topic.

Thanks for admitting you lied.

I never mentioned plural marriages, transgenderism, hermaphroditism, asexuality nor onanism either. Why? Because the conversation was strictly about heteorsexuality and homosexuality. Why would I derail it with off-topic tangential forms of human sexuality?

Addressing the complexity of human sexuality in order to do justice to the topic is not derailing it. Failing to consider the nuances of sexual orientation and behavior is dumbing it down.

 

[Divine Wind]

Addressing the complexity of human sexuality in order to do justice to the topic is not derailing it. Failing to consider the nuances of sexual orientation and behavior is dumbing it down.

Yet the OP is about "curing" homosexuality. You are free to derail it, but this isn't a college course on human sexuality. It's a thread about one homophobe's (and, IMHO, probably in-the-closet homosexual or someone who questions their sexuality after homosexual experience(s) ) misguided ideas of homosexuality in a primarily heterosexual society.

 

[anotherlife]

It is not 2 % of the population that is homosexual, because most public school boys and juvy graduates have been subjected to homosexual "encouragement" which brings their number up to probably 20 %. What the LGBT movement wants is minimum 50 %.

Do you ever run out of moronic horseshit?

Most homosexuals are a result of learnt behavior, not birth. That is a fact. The lgbt movement suppresses this information, but still a fact. Everyone in school or working in the correctional system knows this by observation.

"learnt" behavior. Have you ever actually read any of the scientific literature on the subject? I'm sure that you have not. You prefer to be willfully ignorant and wallow in your bigotry

No. I know people who were not gay but they went to juvy and came back gay, because most were gay there. Would it be scientifically correct to call them gay by birth? No because that would be an unsubstantiated assumption to assume that they were born gay then discovered it in prison only. Doesn't make scientific sense. So, most of the time being gay is a learnt behavior, not a born one.

You are just one more ignoramus who has the understanding and appreciation of the complexity of human sexuality that you would expect of a 13 year old special ed student. Hint. Consider the difference between "lifestyle" which can be fluid, and "sexual orientation" You did know that there is a difference , right? Holy shit! NO? That is (one of ) your problems

Okay, and is that difference scientific or purely political? My bet is that it is purely political. Hehehe.

 

[anotherlife]

In the 70s, the DSM national diagnostic book contained homosexuality as a mental decease, and doctors worked on finding cure for it. Then it was removed. Why is that? Who are the people who want people to be sick? This time it couldn't be the doctors because they lost their funding. Any theories?

I noticed that, too. A precedent would be the AMA selling out to the tobacco industry in the 50's. Our health care system manipulated by outside influences. It happened, doctors used to endorse cigarettes as "healthy" despite all the evidence to the contrary. Money and influence go hand in hand.
Gays are a major power group now with money and political clout. And a major ax to grind as well as an agenda. So, as they say, the truth will OUT one day, it always does.
As cures go, not smoking isn't even a cure for lung cancer. As far as curing homosexuality? It's like curing schizophrenia or any other mental disease.

Interesting, I didn't know that truth can come out, I thought it can be obliterated f you have enough money and the LGBT bullies certainly do. I am afraid of gay pushers in schools and on tv, they seem to rule the world and every channel. Everyone I know believes that even if not gay, sex is annal. I am the only one who calls that bullshit and nobody believes me.