Why the Schumer Shutdown must fail

[TimFitz]

Maybe if they weren't giving medicaid benefits to illegal immigrants, the premiums wouldn't increase. Hmmm.

Maybe if you didn't mindlessly repeat this obviously racist and totally false claim, you'd have a clue.

The Trump regime is trying to feed you a smokescreen of hispanohate and false blame to try and get you to go along with the fact that Trump's BBB included drastic cuts in health insurance subsidies that will affect millions.

I realize that Trump nation is deeply invested in this kind of racist immigrant bashing. It's pretty much all that the Trump regime runs on. That, and embracing his snowflake act.

 

[TimFitz]

Then why didn’t you support Trump’s agenda to continue to the tax cuts? You wanted them to expire, which would have meant a tax increase on 100 million working class Americans.

Thank Gd we defeated your attempt to increase taxes on regular Americans.

A tax cut that amounted to crumbs off the table compared to what Trump gave Wall Street.

You keep falling for this flim flam!

 

[Lisa558]

A tax cut that amounted to crumbs off the table compared to what Trump gave Wall Street.

You keep falling for this flim flam!

Percentage-wise, the working class got a bigger tax cut.

 

[Concerned American]

Maybe if you didn't mindlessly repeat this obviously racist and totally false claim, you'd have a clue.

Get a clue tin hat. Where did I say anything about race. ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT has no racial connotation. IDGAF what color the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT is --- they are taking the hard earned tax dollars of American citizens---THAT IS THEFT NO MATTER WHAT YOUR ETHNICITY IS. Maybe you shouldn't mindlessly repeat the obvious anti-American, globalist communism that you do daily.

The Trump regime is trying to feed you a smokescreen of hispanohate and false blame to try and get you to go along with the fact that Trump's BBB included drastic cuts in health insurance subsidies that will affect millions.

The mission of the US government isn't to support you or your lazy, illegal immigrant buddies. Support yourself. You're given a free education--take advantage of it like millions of Americans who have gone before you and make something of YOURSELF. The government owes you NOTHING.

 

[Marener]

Then why didn’t you support Trump’s agenda to continue to the tax cuts? You wanted them to expire, which would have meant a tax increase on 100 million working class Americans.

Thank Gd we defeated your attempt to increase taxes on regular Americans.

Didn't you say something about $36 trillion in debt a little while ago? I guess you forgot all about that already. Not that you care, because you'll be dead before it ever becomes a problem and you know no one is going to take away your government checks.

 

[Marener]

This is the socialist agenda you leftists want: take from the most motivated and successful and give to those who didn’t bother to get a marketable career.

What Obama SHOULD have done is lower medical costs. Instead, he did what all socialists do: shifted the financial burden around.

ACA subsidies go to people who are working.

Didn't you know that?

 

[Marener]

Thank Gd we defeated your attempt to increase taxes on regular Americans.

Harris ran on a plan that would have extended the Trump tax cuts for people making less than $400k per year.

You probably didn't know this because you're one of those low information voters.

The Fiscal Impact of the Harris and Trump Campaign Plans | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

Note: This analysis has been updated to incorporate new proposals announced by the candidates since we initially published on October 7.

www.crfb.org

 

[Concerned American]

Didn't you say something about $36 trillion in debt

Aren't you supporting another $1.5T in debt that Schumer's shutdown is demanding for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT HEALTHCARE? Not Americans---ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

 

[Concerned American]

Harris ran on a plan that would have extended the Trump tax cuts for people making less than $400k per year.

You probably didn't know this because you're one of those low information voters.

The Fiscal Impact of the Harris and Trump Campaign Plans | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

Note: This analysis has been updated to incorporate new proposals announced by the candidates since we initially published on October 7.

www.crfb.org

What didn't Harris propose? LMAO. If Trump mentioned it---Word salad worked it into her campaign the following day---remember tax on tips?

 

[Lisa558]

We are siding with working class Americans. Those are the wrong people to you?

If you were on the side of working class Americans, you wouldn’t have incentivized illegal aliens to swarm in by the millions - settling in working class neighborhoods where they lower the caliber of the public schools, raising the rents on moderate apartments, suppressing wages, and lowering the value of modest houses.

 

[Rawley]

Dems are fighting to prevent ACA premiums for Americans from doubling.

You were made to believe it’s all about illegal aliens.

Well then, perhaps your party should not have voted to sunset the premiums.

 

[Marener]

If you were on the side of working class Americans

Tell that to the millions of working class Americans who are going to see their premiums double because you refuse to extend the subsidy.

 

[Lisa558]

Tell that to the millions of working class Americans who are going to see their premiums double because you refuse to extend the subsidy.

Tell that to the millions of working class Americans who have seen their wages suppressed, rents driven up, and public schools go down because of your love affair with illegal aliens.

 

[Marener]

Tell that to the millions of working class Americans who have seen their wages suppressed, rents driven up, and public schools go down because of your love affair with illegal aliens.

Do you want to talk about the topic or are you going to continue with your irrelevant rants?

 

[Nostra]

So even if this is true about providing health care to illegal aliens....Democrats are on the side of saving lives.

Only a total ******* asshole has a problem with that.

Not authorized by the Constitution.

 

[Lisa558]

Do you want to talk about the topic or are you going to continue with your irrelevant rants?

Do you want to admit that your actions demonstrate that you don’t mind hurting the working class via swarms of illegal immigrants, and that your only way to “help” is to take money from others and give it to them?

 

[jotathought]

Show your work, liar.

Obamacare has kept premiums lower and saved thousands of lives over the past 15 years.

You MAGA idiots want to go back to the old days before Obamacare....when things were even worse.

The only idiots are the ones that don’t do the due diligence to be better informed. To your response:

• Premiums for many middle-class families who don’t qualify for subsidies have actually increased significantly in the ACA era. Between 2013 and 2019, unsubsidized premiums in some states more than doubled.
• Deductibles and out-of-pocket costs also rose, which offsets any premium “savings.”
• Premiums were rising before ACA and have continued to rise after — just at different rates and with different subsidy structures.
• I believe the estimated “lives saved” are based on modeling, not direct counts.
• Improved survival are not due only to ACA — medical technology and other programs have advanced during the same period.
• High deductibles in ACA plans discourage care, reducing the law’s life-saving potential

 

[Luckyone]

The reason the Democrat Party is the one to blame for the shutdown is based on their claim that they “demand” that cuts to Medicaid be restored to the tune of about one point something TRILLION more dollars of debt.

They can claim otherwise, but what they seek is to provide coverage not just to eligible Americans but to our illegal alien population, too. Here is a specific AI REPLY (chatGPT)

This paragraph is a total lie. Prove that statement!

The source was:

Rep. Maxine Waters admits Dems forced government shutdown to get ‘health care for everybody’ — including illegal immigrants

Waters, 87, was questioned outside the US Capitol Tuesday about Democrats’ opposition to a stopgap funding bill in both chambers of Congress that would have kept the government’s lights on until No…

nypost.com

Many of the more intelligent (but dishonest) Democrat “leaders” avoided saying that quiet part out loud.

Why would any American want to help an illegal alien? That is so much garbage thinking that I am surprised you are on this board. You should be at Trump's side kissing his ass!

All the Democrats are doing is supporting humanity (which evidently you do not have), inasmuch as any person on earth that is having an emergency where their lives are at stake, should get emergency help. Otherwise, it means you don't care about the lives of anyone but yourself. Not surprising.

Which brings us to the point. The Trump Administration doesn’t care to pump another $1.2 TRILLION dollars of flat out deficit spending into government obligations.

so you suggest we be like a country that does not support the needs of the citizens?

But primarily, the Trump Administration seeks to avoid anything that continues to incentivize the illegal aliens from coming here or remaining here,

Hahahaha, if a person is at risk of losing their lives (they are persecuted in their countries), or can't even earn a living because there are no jobs and no help from the government, you honestly think that Trump can take away their incentive to come here?

Heck, if Trump gets his way, Americans who do not agree with Trump or are poor (help from the government is gone), might be going to other countries and becoming illegal aliens there.

 

[struth]

Yada yada Trump making premiums double yada yada.

Huh? What are you talking about? Xiden signed the law setting the big insurance bailouts to expire at the end of the year, it was a Dem passed law as well

 

[struth]

Those cuts to Medicaid and SNAP are paying for the tax cuts for the rich, so the solution to this quandry is very simple, now isn't it.

Take away the tax cuts to the rich. Restore Medicaid and SNAP.

Problem solved. Easy peasy.

And to think someone actually had no clue a minute ago when I said Trump and the GOP are waging war on the poor.

What tax cuts to the rich?