Democrats Try to Hold Government Hostage As Shutdown Looms, Demanding 'Sanctuary Locations' at the Polls

[j-mac]

How is allowing non-citizens to vote outside of proper amendment to the Constitution good for the country?

Wouldn’t it be something if Mac1958 would actually answer questions like this?

 

[Mac-7]

Mac, you're a real smart guy who has his head on right but maybe I've just failed to communicate what I'm really saying:

I'm not /advocating/ for anything in particular, I spent much of my adult life simply working life as a troubleshooter and problem-solver. All I know is solutions, the shortest path from A to B.

All I'm telling you is what is going to or will NEED to be done to solve the current problem, not what I want to see happen or plan myself.

You are living in a civil war now, it just lacks the formal declaration nor bayonets of 166 years ago! The Left posing as/calling themselves "democrats" are an exponentially escalating radicalized openly-hostile anti-American group of people who have declared war on you and America--- they try to camouflage it for now as just all being about Trump and ICE, but we both know ICE is no different now, still being run by the VERY SAME GUY in the same way as 20 years ago under Obama!

It's all just an excuse. Just now, I think it was the Governor of New Jersey who just announced that the Federal Government and our federal rules of law no longer apply in their state, will not be followed, will not be allowed, and if the Fed steps into their state to arrest illegals regardless of crimes and commits the "crime" themselves of enforcing federal law, they now do so at their own risk under threat of seizure, arrest and prosecution. They are trying to scare ICE officers into abdicating, just as Mark Kelly tried to incite mass disaffection from and revolt within the ranks of the military. This is insurrection.

It is almost as if the Left spent the last 5 years hollering about things like insurrection and trying to overthrow democracy as if to desensitize and prepare us now as they actually commit insurrection and an overthrow of democracy.

All I'm telling you is the obvious: these people are out for blood, they are after the throat, they chant Renee Good's name in a trace-like gaze now as if she were a saint, some poor innocent bystander to be martyred now whom ICE hunted down and went out of its way to slaughter, that all these people arrested by ICE have all been just innocent harmless neighborhood citizens of the community all just going about their business snatched up by ICE, and if anyone thinks the Left have not thought all of this 100% of the way through, have nolt anticipated every contingency, and will be backing down one bit and are not prepared to take this to the wall is just a fool.

They are COUNTING on you being just like those people in the church when Don Lemon marched in taking the place over and just sitting there like sheep waiting for the "system" to just somehow work for them and save them, coming to the rescue.

All I'm saying is that the Left is coming full on attack mode now, they consider deporting illegals back home tantamount to a full scale invasion, it might as well be the Russians attacking, that and defending the borders, interrupting the flow of illegals and everything connected to it is a threat to their very existence and survival, and they have declared war on you, on the Fed, on Trump in an all out war against the federal government.

Whether you like hearing it or not, the Left are coming to take over. States are declaring full on insurrection against the USA.

They are training and sending out school children as we speak to hate and march and riot against ICE--- during school hours. They are already programming the next generation while republicans sit on their asses! Can you imagine if bible groups were sending out school kids to follow God and pray? It would be an army of riots and lawsuits. Send kids out to riot against the Fed and to protect criminal aliens? No reaction from republicans. Just hide your head and wait for the "system" to work by just keep following the rules like a good little soldier.

They are full on invested in protecting every illegal to their last drop of blood, and what I'm telling you is that if you and every sane person still left in this country does not realize this very soon and be prepared to do whatever is necessary to quell a full-on civil war against this country, they are going to more than win, they are going to roll right over this country so fast that it will snap your neck back.

The GOP impresses me as being utterly clueless. Either that or just unwilling to admit what it really takes to fix this and turn things normal. No time now to be worried about political careers! While democrats appear utterly UNconstrained by law, republicans appear utterly CONSTRAINED (as usual). Democrats impeached Trump in 6 days; republicans had four YEARS to impeach Biden.

I just wonder: how much longer or how much worse do things need to get after nearly TWENTY YEARS of this crap before people realize that this is a major fatal meltdown of our society that isn't just going to "go away" by pretending it isn't as serious as it really is? It cannot be ignored and it cannot just be tolerated. Both government and society are breaking down, all due to subversion, rot and decay from within--- an unwillingness or inability to process effective law against our most serious law-breakers.

It is like having unruly children who set the sofa on fire, who when left unpunished, then set the house on fire. At some point, a parent must forget they are their children and either need to act and stop it or lose their home.

Now they have Mamdani running NYC invoking his free supermarkets. I can't wait for all of the rich people who actually fund the economy of NYC to start getting the real bill for all of this and move out of the state. Then what? Does anyone think this through?

It is like the world is being run by idiots and maniacs; if ever there were a way for humanity to fail, THIS IS IT.

These people doing this are evil and insane and never admit a mistake and backtrack; if something doesn't work, all they know is to try harder, and harder, and drive through their agenda by BRUTE FORCE. This is the tank coming running the guy over in Red China Square all over, instead, it is now brainwashing and ideology instead of a tank. And no amount of legislation or normal constitutional action can stop brute force, especially when it is coming as subversion from within.

The Fed has a million million codes and laws for dealing with every contingency in controlling your life, EXCEPT sedition from within itself. High crimes of treason, sedition and insurrection are being committed by people in very high places, easily 50 or more I count so far yet, do you see anyone going to jail for anything? How does a government /legally/ stop an insurrection starting from within itself inciting millions to civil revolt when no one has ever had the balls to write the case law to support it?

Many years ago, the enemies of America saw this flaw in our system of government and are now exploiting it to their advantage. If the United States cannot course correct, get society back in peaceful order and get itself/government functioning again as intended as a forward-moving pro-America first system of governance, it will simply fail. The United States fails.

It will happen far quicker than you can imagine.

I do not disagree that we are at the edge of the deepest precipice we have seen since 1861

But casually suggesting that its time for the bloodshed to begin is not a good idea

I assume you are not planning to kill anyone

But dont count on the other side to reach the same conclusion

All they need is an excuse yo round you ip as a security threat

Which they will take full advantage of

I am ready to defend my family if necessary

But I will never fire the first shot

Libs will have to come after me instead

 

[kyzr]

Mac, you're a real smart guy who has his head on right but maybe I've just failed to communicate what I'm really saying:

I'm not /advocating/ for anything in particular, I spent much of my adult life simply working life as a troubleshooter and problem-solver. All I know is solutions, the shortest path from A to B.

All I'm telling you is what is going to or will NEED to be done to solve the current problem, not what I want to see happen or plan myself.

You are living in a civil war now, it just lacks the formal declaration nor bayonets of 166 years ago! The Left posing as/calling themselves "democrats" are an exponentially escalating radicalized openly-hostile anti-American group of people who have declared war on you and America--- they try to camouflage it for now as just all being about Trump and ICE, but we both know ICE is no different now, still being run by the VERY SAME GUY in the same way as 20 years ago under Obama!

It's all just an excuse. Just now, I think it was the Governor of New Jersey who just announced that the Federal Government and our federal rules of law no longer apply in their state, will not be followed, will not be allowed, and if the Fed steps into their state to arrest illegals regardless of crimes and commits the "crime" themselves of enforcing federal law, they now do so at their own risk under threat of seizure, arrest and prosecution. They are trying to scare ICE officers into abdicating, just as Mark Kelly tried to incite mass disaffection from and revolt within the ranks of the military. This is insurrection.

It is almost as if the Left spent the last 5 years hollering about things like insurrection and trying to overthrow democracy as if to desensitize and prepare us now as they actually commit insurrection and an overthrow of democracy.

All I'm telling you is the obvious: these people are out for blood, they are after the throat, they chant Renee Good's name in a trace-like gaze now as if she were a saint, some poor innocent bystander to be martyred now whom ICE hunted down and went out of its way to slaughter, that all these people arrested by ICE have all been just innocent harmless neighborhood citizens of the community all just going about their business snatched up by ICE, and if anyone thinks the Left have not thought all of this 100% of the way through, have nolt anticipated every contingency, and will be backing down one bit and are not prepared to take this to the wall is just a fool.

They are COUNTING on you being just like those people in the church when Don Lemon marched in taking the place over and just sitting there like sheep waiting for the "system" to just somehow work for them and save them, coming to the rescue.

All I'm saying is that the Left is coming full on attack mode now, they consider deporting illegals back home tantamount to a full scale invasion, it might as well be the Russians attacking, that and defending the borders, interrupting the flow of illegals and everything connected to it is a threat to their very existence and survival, and they have declared war on you, on the Fed, on Trump in an all out war against the federal government.

Whether you like hearing it or not, the Left are coming to take over. States are declaring full on insurrection against the USA.

They are training and sending out school children as we speak to hate and march and riot against ICE--- during school hours. They are already programming the next generation while republicans sit on their asses! Can you imagine if bible groups were sending out school kids to follow God and pray? It would be an army of riots and lawsuits. Send kids out to riot against the Fed and to protect criminal aliens? No reaction from republicans. Just hide your head and wait for the "system" to work by just keep following the rules like a good little soldier.

They are full on invested in protecting every illegal to their last drop of blood, and what I'm telling you is that if you and every sane person still left in this country does not realize this very soon and be prepared to do whatever is necessary to quell a full-on civil war against this country, they are going to more than win, they are going to roll right over this country so fast that it will snap your neck back.

The GOP impresses me as being utterly clueless. Either that or just unwilling to admit what it really takes to fix this and turn things normal. No time now to be worried about political careers! While democrats appear utterly UNconstrained by law, republicans appear utterly CONSTRAINED (as usual). Democrats impeached Trump in 6 days; republicans had four YEARS to impeach Biden.

I just wonder: how much longer or how much worse do things need to get after nearly TWENTY YEARS of this crap before people realize that this is a major fatal meltdown of our society that isn't just going to "go away" by pretending it isn't as serious as it really is? It cannot be ignored and it cannot just be tolerated. Both government and society are breaking down, all due to subversion, rot and decay from within--- an unwillingness or inability to process effective law against our most serious law-breakers.

It is like having unruly children who set the sofa on fire, who when left unpunished, then set the house on fire. At some point, a parent must forget they are their children and either need to act and stop it or lose their home.

Now they have Mamdani running NYC invoking his free supermarkets. I can't wait for all of the rich people who actually fund the economy of NYC to start getting the real bill for all of this and move out of the state. Then what? Does anyone think this through?

It is like the world is being run by idiots and maniacs; if ever there were a way for humanity to fail, THIS IS IT.

These people doing this are evil and insane and never admit a mistake and backtrack; if something doesn't work, all they know is to try harder, and harder, and drive through their agenda by BRUTE FORCE. This is the tank coming running the guy over in Red China Square all over, instead, it is now brainwashing and ideology instead of a tank. And no amount of legislation or normal constitutional action can stop brute force, especially when it is coming as subversion from within.

The Fed has a million million codes and laws for dealing with every contingency in controlling your life, EXCEPT sedition from within itself. High crimes of treason, sedition and insurrection are being committed by people in very high places, easily 50 or more I count so far yet, do you see anyone going to jail for anything? How does a government /legally/ stop an insurrection starting from within itself inciting millions to civil revolt when no one has ever had the balls to write the case law to support it?

Many years ago, the enemies of America saw this flaw in our system of government and are now exploiting it to their advantage. If the United States cannot course correct, get society back in peaceful order and get itself/government functioning again as intended as a forward-moving pro-America first system of governance, it will simply fail. The United States fails. It will happen far quicker than you can imagine.

Yep. Trump has 3-years to fix the US and if the mid-terms go the wrong way it could be very bad for democracy and capitalism.

 

[22lcidw]

Wouldn’t it be something if Mac1958 would actually answer questions like this?

It is because he is a traitor. And in a "democracy" that is kosher.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Are you sure? I mean, all it would take is one guy, maybe Hegseth armed with an M134 mini gun and beltpack and he could take out the entire democrat party. I'm not sure I could blame him. Some might even slap him on the back and buy him a fine cigar.

Have you consulted with medical professionals about these murder fantasies yet?

 

[Hollie]

Let’s see. You have to be a US Citizen to vote in federal elections already. Local elections are local and up to the locals but it still doesn’t affect federal elections.

Ice murdering people in the streets sealed its fate.

Link to any charges or convictions for “murder’, you hysterical moron.

 

[Hollie]

If Democrats force Trump to spend $10B this year from the BBB budget it is as good as retroactively cutting it by $10B. Trump has no leverage after the midterms. He can shut down the government himself over the House spending bill they put together.

Republicans aren’t the party screeching about government shutdowns, that’s your Party of Slavery,

 

[citygator]

Link to any charges or convictions for “murder’, you hysterical moron.

Wait for the next administration.

 

[citygator]

Republicans aren’t the party screeching about government shutdowns, that’s your Party of Slavery,

You're hysterical. Selling your soul and then seeing your fat ass orange guy getting blown out in the midterms must really have you down. Im sorry.

 

[Hollie]

You're hysterical. Selling your soul and then seeing your fat ass orange guy getting blown out in the midterms must really have you down. Im sorry.


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When was Trump blown out of the midterms?

What party is threatening government shutdowns? It’s your party of Slavery. You sold your integrity to your masters, Ilhan Omar, Chuckles Schumer and AOC.

 

[citygator]

When was Trump blown out of the midterms?

What party is threatening government shutdowns? It’s your party of Slavery. You sold your integrity to your masters, Ilhan Omar, Chuckles Schumer and AOC.

2018 since you asked. And is on his way in 2026.

 

[Hollie]

2018 since you asked. And is on his way in 2026.

On his way in 2026? Is that what Ilhan Omar is promising you?

 

[Blaster]

Democrats don't give a damn for average United States citizens.

 

[toobfreak]

I do not disagree that we are at the edge of the deepest precipice we have seen since 1861

Kinda have to be blind not to miss it. And just like the Civil War, this conflict is not going way on its own without active resistance.

But casually suggesting that its time for the bloodshed to begin is not a good idea

Again, not casually suggesting anything, but the bloodshed has already begun, I'm just predicting as one both experienced in human social behavior and leftwing tactics as a keen observationalist of history what will happen very soon if things stay on the current trajectory without a lot of push-back. Serious, hard, firm pushback, because the offenders are by no means through offending. Every election year, the Left just get crazier and crazier, literally tearing the country apart.

If people are not soon charged with felony crimes, arrested and faced with serious charges and conviction, the smoldering flame will just reignite into an even larger conflagration--- the State of New Jersey has just declared itself seceded from the Union. Federal government not allowed to enter.

These are the same people who a couple years ago fought hard to try to keep Trump from even being put on several state ballots.

BTW, I caught on the news just earlier at least one person in congress (didn't catch his name), has has also publicly come out to warn that this whole matter of the Left's reaction to mere enforcement of immigration laws now amounts to the weaponization of the matter in the form of a soft coupe.

If this were a foreign country doing this (and it might be), some would call this an act of war. And to be sure, it has been all-out war against Trump and the GOP for 11 years now.

 

[toobfreak]

Yep. Trump has 3-years to fix the US and if the mid-terms go the wrong way it could be very bad for democracy and capitalism.

I keep trying to tell people as a once well-paid troubleshooter and assessor of situations that:

1. THIS is where we ARE.
2. THIS is where we need to be to stay a stable, sovereign republic.
3. THIS is about how much time we have left to get there.

Yet when I draw out the map of the mechanics and logistics of the situation, republicans tell me the line of necessary action to win this war crosses an area they will not go. Don't even want to talk about it. Could start trouble. Might make someone mad.

And all I'm saying to these people is that then, do not worry, you are already beaten, conquered, defeated. The GOP will collapse in the midterms, and democrats will stop Trump right here and now tying up his last three years in office again in nothing but hearings and impeachments again.

So much for democracy and peaceful transfer of power--- democrats got creamed in the election, so they simply refused to allow Trump to operate in his office, denying America their election; democrats simply BULLIED the country to getting their way.

While the GOP had four years and did zip to Biden or a single person on his staff. Not one prosecution.

Put another way, has anyone seen even once a single democrat recently say: "Hold off--- before we start a war with federal police sending civilians in to die and people get hurt, let's wait to see first who ICE arrests and how long they stay on their own?"

When Lemon invaded that church, had one of the parishioners had a gun and fired in self-defense, the Left would have loved it, they want the violence, they want an incident. And Mac keeps confusing the issue, I'm not suggesting that civilians now grab their hoes and rakes and start attacking democrats on the street in retaliation, what I'm saying is that the Fed, the DOJ, DHS, etc., better get off their duffs and start arresting and charging a lot of these people with felony crimes, especially those that funded, organized and aided those ICE riots in Minnesota, otherwise our law means nothing and just expect things to keep getting worse.

If the Fed lets the state of Minnesota get away with what they pulled in Minneapolis, that will send this country into a civil war, the Left just further emboldened by the lack of repercussions--- and their prosecuting the law hard against these felons is the key to STOPPING it.

I'm afraid the Fed's first, biggest problem are all these activist judges who every time the DOJ does try to charge a crime, some judge refuses to prosecute it throwing the matter out, just like they threw out/dismissed Trump's every appeal to get the 2020 election reexamined.

I dare anyone to show me where I am wrong.

 

[MetalMars]

Wouldn’t it be something if Mac1958 would actually answer questions like this?

Mackey Mac loves illegal immigration. The funny part is that he cries about wokism hindering his communism. Little guy has it tough.

 

[toobfreak]

Wouldn’t it be something if Mac1958 would actually answer questions like this?

He cannot. Mac can only promote his agenda. Letting non-citizens vote is akin to letting your foreign enemies pick our government most favorable to them!

Can anyone name a country where they let outsiders and foreigners from parts unknown vote to determine who runs their country and by what policies?

Some countries don't even let their own citizens have a say in the running of the country.

 

[j-mac]

He cannot. Mac can only promote his agenda. Letting non-citizens vote is akin to letting your foreign enemies pick our government most favorable to them!

Can anyone name a country where they let outsiders and foreigners from parts unknown vote to determine who runs their country and by what policies?

Some countries don't even let their own citizens have a say in the running of the country.

The really sad thing about his arguments is that he doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to actually let them stand up to scrutiny among those that disagree with them....In essence that is what sites like this are designed to promote, conversation. Like many closed minded morons here he refuses to address those who disagree with him...Weakness on display...I wonder if his fingernails are painted.

 

[toobfreak]

The really sad thing about his arguments is that he doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to actually let them stand up to scrutiny among those that disagree with them....In essence that is what sites like this are designed to promote, conversation. Like many closed minded morons here he refuses to address those who disagree with him...Weakness on display...I wonder if his fingernails are painted.

It used to be a rule here that you had to answer (debate) people. Basically it said somewhere that you couldn't just drop bombs and run away over and over as a habit, you had to debate people and topics. But I guess that was unenforceable.

If you disagree, fine, but put up your own reasons why you disagree that can equally be examined and challenged. That is debate. But Macky does not debate, he uses the ol' fallacy of just putting others down, always saying how wrong other people are, how bad their ideas are, etc., without ever putting up how he knows or why, or a better idea--- anything which can be equally challenged, examined and tested out in the open.

Just how stupid YOU and YOUR ideas are.

I had enough of the troll and just put him on Iggy.

 

[citygator]

There is real desperation on the part of democrats as they are frantic to keep their illegal alien voter base.

It’s now come to their Demands for 'Sanctuary Locations' at the Polls

Democrats Try to Hold Government Hostage As Shutdown Looms, Demanding 'Sanctuary Locations' at the Polls

Democrats demand sanctuary locations at polls, risking government shutdown over immigration enforcement funding.

redstate.com

These are US citizens and Veterans of the marine corp having their rights violated by ICE. There will be no US taxpayer funding for the DHS until it is reigned in.