Why the Olmecs did not stay in Ancient America. Blacks came to America before Columbus

[Ms. Turquoise]

Right. A fake over 5,000 years old. Along with all of the other statues recovered of her over the centuries. And the wall reliefs inside of tombs, those are all fake as well. Absolutely everything related to her and every other member of Egyptian royalty is a lie and fake.

Even all of the objects recovered from her son's tomb. All fake.

Wait, are you even aware that King Tut was Nefertiti's son? And she is depicted on several items in his tomb? So who exactly went in thousands of years ago to change that?

As I have always said, you can lead a horse to knowledge, but you can't make it think. And I am about done with this insanity.

King Tut was Black too.

 

[Mushroom]

King Tut was Black too.

Right, sure he is. Never mind that we actually have his preserved body to examine. He was not black.

Not sure at this point if you are trolling, or some kind of ultimate denier pushing a racial agenda. But I'm bored.

 

[Unkotare]

 

[mikegriffith1]

The Olmecs visited America, Mexico, and south America. These Olmecs were black people. Their appearance was similar to a tribe of Africans that inhabit modern day Senegal. Many European and American archeologist, who through their own racism, do not recognize their historical visit. The huge stone heads that were dug up in Mexico, San Lorenzo , all have black facial features. These Olmecs, visited North America, and San Lorenzo , and La Venta Mexico. They did not stay in America, or Mexico. They say the land had evil spirits, and did not stay. They eventually went back to Africa.
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HUH???? The Olmecs lived in Mesoamerica (southern Mexico and northern Central America) for some 700 years. They built numerous cities and reached a high level of civilization for their time.

Where do you get the idea that the Olmecs "went back to Africa"?

The Olmecs were plagued by horrendous civil wars, which was a large part of the reason for the decrease in their population. They did not leave but were supplanted and absorbed by the emerging preclassic Mayan culture.

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

Right, sure he is. Never mind that we actually have his preserved body to examine. He was not black.

Not sure at this point if you are trolling, or some kind of ultimate denier pushing a racial agenda. But I'm bored.

Bye. Have a nice day.

 

[Leo123]

So what?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Cleopatra was Black. So was Nefertitti.

Cleopatra was Greek. Known for centuries. Did you get your history education from an alternative history comic book?

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

Cleopatra was Greek. Known for centuries. Did you get your history education from an alternative history comic book?

Cleopatra was Black.

 

[Mushroom]

Cleopatra was Greek. Known for centuries. Did you get your history education from an alternative history comic book?

Not only Greek, but Greek descended by three centuries of inbreeding. There was almost no "outside blood" in that entire three century dynasty, it was all people descended from Greeks marrying other descendants of Greeks (the vast majority from inside the Ptolemaic dynasty itself).

And there exists contemporary depictions of what she looked like.

In fact, one of the rare incidents where they married somebody from outside is Apama II. A Princess from modern Libya, her family descends from Seleucus I Nicator, another of Alexander the Great's Generals. Or Cleopatra Selene of Syria, who was yet another offshoot of the Ptolemaic Dynasty that had moved to Syria to rule a century before she was brought back into the main dynasty (and married I want to say her second cousin).

It never ceases to amaze me how some try to rewrite history to suit their own racist beliefs. Not unlike the depictions of Jesus with blonde hair and blue eyes.

 

[Unkotare]

Inbreeding is NOT a good idea, genetically speaking. My people all came from the same part of a relatively small island. As a result, you can trace my family tree by the genetic maladies that we all keep sharing. It wasn't until the generation of me and my siblings that anyone married anyone not 100% Irish. Hybrid vigor is an advantage.

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

Not only Greek, but Greek descended by three centuries of inbreeding. There was almost no "outside blood" in that entire three century dynasty, it was all people descended from Greeks marrying other descendants of Greeks (the vast majority from inside the Ptolemaic dynasty itself).

And there exists contemporary depictions of what she looked like.

In fact, one of the rare incidents where they married somebody from outside is Apama II. A Princess from modern Libya, her family descends from Seleucus I Nicator, another of Alexander the Great's Generals. Or Cleopatra Selene of Syria, who was yet another offshoot of the Ptolemaic Dynasty that had moved to Syria to rule a century before she was brought back into the main dynasty (and married I want to say her second cousin).

It never ceases to amaze me how some try to rewrite history to suit their own racist beliefs. Not unlike the depictions of Jesus with blonde hair and blue eyes.

Anyone who wanted to lie about her identity could make her look different. Next, you'll be telling me that Hannibal wasn't Black.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Inbreeding is NOT a good idea, genetically speaking. My people all came from the same part of a relatively small island. As a result, you can trace my family tree by the genetic maladies that we all keep sharing. It wasn't until the generation of me and my siblings that anyone married anyone not 100% Irish. Hybrid vigor is an advantage.

So that's what's wrong with you! (Just kidding!) I am from KY, so I get all the in-bred jokes often. And just for the record my wife is not my sister or cousin.

 

[Mushroom]

I am from KY, so I get all the in-bred jokes often. And just for the record my wife is not my sister or cousin.

That was not uncommon in many agricultural areas of the US. And it was related mostly to an area being settled by a small number of families. I know in two small towns I lived in when I was in Alabama most of the families there were related to each other and had the same last names. And I even dated a gal for a while that had before me married her second cousin.

But to be fair, neither of them actually knew that before the wedding. They were originally from different communities about 50 miles apart, and had different last names. It was only at the wedding that they realized they both shared a great-aunt.

 

[Mushroom]

Inbreeding is NOT a good idea, genetically speaking. My people all came from the same part of a relatively small island. As a result, you can trace my family tree by the genetic maladies that we all keep sharing. It wasn't until the generation of me and my siblings that anyone married anyone not 100% Irish. Hybrid vigor is an advantage.

Such as the Hapsburg Jaw. Where they have traced this feature as it evolved and became more dominant generation after generation.

And one thing that many of my ancestors avoided through the "selling" of wives (or in some cases stealing them).

Most American Indian tribes have ancient traditions of either selling-buying girls to be wives in another tribe, or outright raiding another tribe and kidnapping women as wives. And many anthropologists believe this was quite common among most Neolithic cultures as a way to prevent inbreeding. I know in some tribes, these traditions were actually dictated by the women. The "mothers-grandmothers" would get together and compare family lines, and then tell the men which sons and daughters should marry. Most likely in the comparison determining how closely they might be to each other so if they were a suitable pair or not.

"Husband, our daughter is old enough to marry. You need to talk to He Walks Alone, and arrange for Morning Dawn to marry Standing Elk because they are a suitable pair." The men then got together and traded goods until an agreement was made, but in most cases it was the women that told them who to pair together. Or sometimes tell their husbands to not allow a pairing, because the mothers-grandmothers knew they were first or second cousins and that should be avoided whenever possible.

And this is not even unique to the Americas. The ancient Roman tale "The Rape of the Sabine Women" (8th century BCE) is known as such due to changes in language, as they were not raped. The original Latin word was "raptio", which means "kidnap". Where after failing to secure a bride price demanded by the Sabines and other tribes the Romans resorted to kidnapping them. But once they returned to Rome the men did not actually rape the women but pleaded with the women to marry them. Most of them did agree and found suitable husbands among the Romans, and ended the war that their fathers started to try and get them back.

But the Ptolemy Dynasty was an extreme example. Cleopatra VII prior to Caesar was married to her brother, Ptolemy XIII. Their father was Ptolemy XII, their mother was Cleopatra V, who was his sister.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Anyone who wanted to lie about her identity could make her look different. Next, you'll be telling me that Hannibal wasn't Black.

He was Carthegenian, which are a Semitic people, and are "white" as the day is long.

Where did you flunk out of school?

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

He was Carthegenian, which are a Semitic people, and are "white" as the day is long.

Where did you flunk out of school?

Hannibal was Black. He and his Army occupied southern Italy for many years after he defeated them. While Hannibal and his Army were in southern Italy, they developed "relationships" with many of the Italian ladies there. That is why the people of southern Italy are darker than the people of northern Italy right up till this day.
Hannibal was Black. And so was his Army.

 

[Unkotare]

Hannibal was Black. He and his Army occupied southern Italy for many years after he defeated them. While Hannibal and his Army were in southern Italy, they developed "relationships" with many of the Italian ladies there. That is why the people of southern Italy are darker than the people of northern Italy right up till this day.
Hannibal was Black. And so was his Army.

So, literally every thing in the world past present or future is about race for you?

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

So, literally every thing in the world past present or future is about race for you?

Not for me. But for some people it is.

 

[Unkotare]

Not for me. But for some people it is.

It kinda seems like it is for you.

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

It kinda seems like it is for you.

Please don't hump my leg. I have arthritis in my knees. Please.