Why the official reported numbers are nothing more than a weak guess....

[justoffal]

Test! Test! Test! As if the tests was the same thing as a vaccine. We have now entered the twilight zone of stupid wherein we witness the real time paradigm taking place as politics becomes the driver of the alleged pandemic instead of microbiology. Not only do we have the sycophants praising one of the world's most murderous regimes as a hero in all of this confusion we are watching the TDS zombies froth forward in a wild attempt to yet again dislodge a President whom they dislike for reasons they cannot even accurately identify. The very idea of keeping a COVID score board is childishly simplistic. Sure it gives the masses who are addicted to contest scoring something to look at and the political denizens something to leverage public opinion with.....but anyone familiar with the science of exponential growth will know that the numbers being presented have no hope of accurately tracking the real progress of this current natural disaster.

Even if we tested each person alive today and were able to log the results into some kind of logic program that offered a suggestive solution...the information is only as good as the moment. The nature of contagion defies all forms of numeric examination which leads us to the very likely scenario wherein the numbers are nothing more than a political ploy. To date we are being told that there are only one million cases confirmed.....in a world populous of 8 Billion that is a ludicrously low number given the time and contagion factor involved here. This nasty little organism is well on it's way to assuming its rightful place alongside hundreds of other human symbiotics that tag along on the human populous the same way cat fleas tag along on the cat population. It's here to stay. So are a few other things like liars, haters, control freakism and ....yes....death.

Here's to you ..... YOU WILL BE EXPOSED ....unless you die from something else first.

JO

 

[ReinyDays]

These statistical numbers being bantered about can only be calculated after-the-fact ... the math is sound except we only have a tiny fraction of the data we need to make any kind of grand conclusion ...

We may also need to review what data we do have ... if someone with stage 8 cancer catches the virus and quickly dies, is this a Covid-19 death or is it a cancer death? ... how much do both political parties want to inflate these numbers to justify shutting down the economy ... deficit spending north of $3 trillion now ... 15% GDP ...

April rent and mortgage payments are due right now ... once the moratorium on evictions is lifted, there's going to be a slew of court cases filed ... homelessness will jump and landlord's will have to raise rents considerably ... if we want things to stay the same as before, we'll need to spend another $3 trillion to keep the money flowing down the pipeline, literally pay everyone's rent and mortgage plus to be fair we'll need to reimburse all the folks who did manage to pay their housing expense ...

... or do we change the system to reflect the new reality ... SARS is here to stay ... there will be another pandemic ...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

These statistical numbers being bantered about can only be calculated after-the-fact ... the math is sound except we only have a tiny fraction of the data we need to make any kind of grand conclusion ...

We may also need to review what data we do have ... if someone with stage 8 cancer catches the virus and quickly dies, is this a Covid-19 death or is it a cancer death? ... how much do both political parties want to inflate these numbers to justify shutting down the economy ... deficit spending north of $3 trillion now ... 15% GDP ...

April rent and mortgage payments are due right now ... once the moratorium on evictions is lifted, there's going to be a slew of court cases filed ... homelessness will jump and landlord's will have to raise rents considerably ... if we want things to stay the same as before, we'll need to spend another $3 trillion to keep the money flowing down the pipeline, literally pay everyone's rent and mortgage plus to be fair we'll need to reimburse all the folks who did manage to pay their housing expense ...

... or do we change the system to reflect the new reality ... SARS is here to stay ... there will be another pandemic ...

and landlord's will have to raise rents considerably ...

Doing that in the midst of a deep recession probably isn't the brightest idea.

 

[ReinyDays]

and landlord's will have to raise rents considerably ...
Doing that in the midst of a deep recession probably isn't the brightest idea.

It's a great idea ... what are tenants going to do, live under bridges? ... jack rents up 50%, people will pay or be homeless ... insurance, taxes, maintenance is all going up ... those are business expenses for the landlord ... all he gets is margins ...

Landlords are suffering too with all this ... Vegas casinos are shut down ... there's travel restrictions to Hawai'i or Monaco ... if landlords can't spend this money for business purposes, they're going to get TAXED ... unholy in my opinion ... it's somebody else who should pay my fair share of the tax load ...

 

[justoffal]

[NiQUOTE="ReinyDays, post: 24382902, member: 72583"]
These statistical numbers being bantered about can only be calculated after-the-fact ... the math is sound except we only have a tiny fraction of the data we need to make any kind of grand conclusion ...

We may also need to review what data we do have ... if someone with stage 8 cancer catches the virus and quickly dies, is this a Covid-19 death or is it a cancer death? ... how much do both political parties want to inflate these numbers to justify shutting down the economy ... deficit spending north of $3 trillion now ... 15% GDP ...

April rent and mortgage payments are due right now ... once the moratorium on evictions is lifted, there's going to be a slew of court cases filed ... homelessness will jump and landlord's will have to raise rents considerably ... if we want things to stay the same as before, we'll need to spend another $3 trillion to keep the money flowing down the pipeline, literally pay everyone's rent and mortgage plus to be fair we'll need to reimburse all the folks who did manage to pay their housing expense ...

... or do we change the system to reflect the new reality ... SARS is here to stay ... there will be another pandemic ...
[/QUOTE]

Nicely done.

Jo

 

[justoffal]

[NiQUOTE="ReinyDays, post: 24382902, member: 72583"]
These statistical numbers being bantered about can only be calculated after-the-fact ... the math is sound except we only have a tiny fraction of the data we need to make any kind of grand conclusion ...

We may also need to review what data we do have ... if someone with stage 8 cancer catches the virus and quickly dies, is this a Covid-19 death or is it a cancer death? ... how much do both political parties want to inflate these numbers to justify shutting down the economy ... deficit spending north of $3 trillion now ... 15% GDP ...

April rent and mortgage payments are due right now ... once the moratorium on evictions is lifted, there's going to be a slew of court cases filed ... homelessness will jump and landlord's will have to raise rents considerably ... if we want things to stay the same as before, we'll need to spend another $3 trillion to keep the money flowing down the pipeline, literally pay everyone's rent and mortgage plus to be fair we'll need to reimburse all the folks who did manage to pay their housing expense ...

... or do we change the system to reflect the new reality ... SARS is here to stay ... there will be another pandemic ...

Nicely done.

Jo
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I like what Italy did. Forbid the collection of mortgages and rents for 3 months not to be kept track of later or collected at another time... simply eliminated.

 

[B. Kidd]

All I know is that we are in trouble when the exspurts spend this last week debating whether or not to wear masks.

Tie your underwear to your face is their final conclusion.....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

and landlord's will have to raise rents considerably ...
Doing that in the midst of a deep recession probably isn't the brightest idea.

It's a great idea ... what are tenants going to do, live under bridges? ... jack rents up 50%, people will pay or be homeless ... insurance, taxes, maintenance is all going up ... those are business expenses for the landlord ... all he gets is margins ...

Landlords are suffering too with all this ... Vegas casinos are shut down ... there's travel restrictions to Hawai'i or Monaco ... if landlords can't spend this money for business purposes, they're going to get TAXED ... unholy in my opinion ... it's somebody else who should pay my fair share of the tax load ...

It's a great idea ... what are tenants going to do, live under bridges?

If it's a great idea during a deep recession, it was an even better idea last year.
What were rent increases in 2019?

jack rents up 50%, people will pay or be homeless

100%

 

[ReinyDays]

It's a great idea ... what are tenants going to do, live under bridges?
If it's a great idea during a deep recession, it was an even better idea last year.
What were rent increases in 2019?
jack rents up 50%, people will pay or be homeless
100%

Remember, all rental markets are local ... the press is reporting roughly 5% - 7% per year for the past 12 years here ... it's been a landlord's market since the 2008-09 recession ... and a time for expansion, all those dirt cheap houses on the market ...

100% ... well, yeah ... it's the risk-reward formula, lay out $100k and risk it in a tenant's hands ... there will have to be reward for that ... first time you start cleaning a unit by towing the Oldsmobile out of the living room, you'll see what I mean ...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's a great idea ... what are tenants going to do, live under bridges?
If it's a great idea during a deep recession, it was an even better idea last year.
What were rent increases in 2019?
jack rents up 50%, people will pay or be homeless
100%

Remember, all rental markets are local ... the press is reporting roughly 5% - 7% per year for the past 12 years here ... it's been a landlord's market since the 2008-09 recession ... and a time for expansion, all those dirt cheap houses on the market ...

100% ... well, yeah ... it's the risk-reward formula, lay out $100k and risk it in a tenant's hands ... there will have to be reward for that ... first time you start cleaning a unit by towing the Oldsmobile out of the living room, you'll see what I mean ...

I'd never invest in rental property. Awful business.
Let me know your % increase after the crisis. And your vacancy rate.

 

[ReinyDays]

I'd never invest in rental property. Awful business.
Let me know your % increase after the crisis. And your vacancy rate.

Mike Rowe of "Dirty Jobs" fame never did a segment on landlording ... it's nasty ... throwing babies into snow banks, in the job description ... worse it's the police who come out and do the throwing on the landlord's request ...

Tenants, don't bother going to court, your landlord will win every time ... him and the judge are buddy-buddy ... I've seen single teenage mothers thrown out of a courtroom, just because she had the nerve to show up ...

[ka'ching] ...

I sold out ... currently semi-unemployable ... filthy commie/liberal/hippy McGoverniks in the State Capitol has capped rent increases at 9%/yr ... the bastards ...

 

[B. Kidd]

It's a great idea ... what are tenants going to do, live under bridges?
If it's a great idea during a deep recession, it was an even better idea last year.
What were rent increases in 2019?
jack rents up 50%, people will pay or be homeless
100%

Remember, all rental markets are local ... the press is reporting roughly 5% - 7% per year for the past 12 years here ... it's been a landlord's market since the 2008-09 recession ... and a time for expansion, all those dirt cheap houses on the market ...

100% ... well, yeah ... it's the risk-reward formula, lay out $100k and risk it in a tenant's hands ... there will have to be reward for that ... first time you start cleaning a unit by towing the Oldsmobile out of the living room, you'll see what I mean ...

I'd never invest in rental property. Awful business.
Let me know your % increase after the crisis. And your vacancy rate.

Been there done that 15 years ago. And sometimes the rental mgmt. company's can be as bad as some tenants!