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Ok, how about this. An strong argument could be made, that even the idea of separation of church and state was a mistake. So, modernism at what price? And like everything, modernism is a transient too, now leading to something clearly not to our fancy. Why don't we admit that modernism itself is a mistake too?
Ok, how about this. An strong argument could be made, that even the idea of separation of church and state was a mistake. So, modernism at what price? And like everything, modernism is a transient too, now leading to something clearly not to our fancy. Why don't we admit that modernism itself is a mistake too?
Separation of Church and State was meant (IMO) to thwart religious dogma controlling the State. Belief in a higher power was nevertheless at the foundation of the American Constitution but individual freedom, as opposed to being labeled into a certain group, defined freedom. The Constitution is really the opposite of a tyrannical dictatorship or a neo-marxist socialist society.
Ok, how about this. An strong argument could be made, that even the idea of separation of church and state was a mistake. So, modernism at what price? And like everything, modernism is a transient too, now leading to something clearly not to our fancy. Why don't we admit that modernism itself is a mistake too?
Separation of Church and State was meant (IMO) to thwart religious dogma controlling the State. Belief in a higher power was nevertheless at the foundation of the American Constitution but individual freedom, as opposed to being labeled into a certain group, defined freedom. The Constitution is really the opposite of a tyrannical dictatorship or a neo-marxist socialist society.
It weakens the society if the state itself is not derived from a graceful higher power. That is why countries such as the USA or all the former Soviet block have problems with defining or maintaining individual freedom. I think the constitution doesn't call for the separation of church and state.
Humanity needs an extra-religious spiritual uplifting.
No, I doubt you figured anything out at all.Too often we encounter these bland and unproven assertions the only valid set of moral principles are Judaeo-Christian. Putting aside for now the question of WHICH particular branch of Judea-Christianity is referrenced here we are in danger of ignoring centuries of philosophical writing on morallity by blindly claiming all to have no validity.
On the other hand there are some serious questions to be addressed by anyone who believes a deity who would torture his own son ( who according to some forms of trinitarian theology is actually himself) to atone for (redeem?) sins he made possible in the first place by granting our species free will when (if we accept the idea of the Creators omniscience) he knew beforehand our species would abuse that freedom . As a moral tale it’s not very instructive and that’s before we address the question of the psychological effect of raising the young to worship an almost naked man nailed to a cross by his father and the difficult question of the relationship between this and the all too common phenomena of a those attracted to Christian ministry and pedophelia.
2nd . Thessalonians Ch2.V11 as it too often does, comes to mind.
Yeah I always found it interesting that he would torture his own son who is actually himself. However I figured it out and finally grew up.
Too often we encounter these bland and unproven assertions the only valid set of moral principles are Judaeo-Christian. Putting aside for now the question of WHICH particular branch of Judea-Christianity is referrenced here we are in danger of ignoring centuries of philosophical writing on morallity by blindly claiming all to have no validity.
On the other hand there are some serious questions to be addressed by anyone who believes a deity who would torture his own son ( who according to some forms of trinitarian theology is actually himself) to atone for (redeem?) sins he made possible in the first place by granting our species free will when (if we accept the idea of the Creators omniscience) he knew beforehand our species would abuse that freedom .
As a moral tale it’s not very instructive and that’s before we address the question of the psychological effect of raising the young to worship an almost naked man nailed to a cross by his father and the difficult question of the relationship between this and the all too common phenomena of a those attracted to Christian ministry and pedophelia..
Then why did about half a dozen states have state supported churches that plainly violated such a wall of separation?Separation of Church and State was meant (IMO) to thwart religious dogma controlling the State.
Great charts, but as a counter-point, many of the 'poor' were only cash poor but land and cattle rich. That doesnt show up on GDP chartsThis is why "modernism" is good: development leads to rising living standards and falling poverty rates. We can thank innovation, ingenuity, capitalism and the Rule of Law (as defined in Western Civilization). Ending modernism would throw this progress into reverse.
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Great charts, but as a counter-point, many of the 'poor' were only cash poor but land and cattle rich. That doesnt show up on GDP chartsThis is why "modernism" is good: development leads to rising living standards and falling poverty rates. We can thank innovation, ingenuity, capitalism and the Rule of Law (as defined in Western Civilization). Ending modernism would throw this progress into reverse.
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This is why "modernism" is good: development leads to rising living standards and falling poverty rates. We can thank innovation, ingenuity, capitalism and the Rule of Law (as defined in Western Civilization). Ending modernism would throw this progress into reverse.
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This is why "modernism" is good: development leads to rising living standards and falling poverty rates. We can thank innovation, ingenuity, capitalism and the Rule of Law (as defined in Western Civilization). Ending modernism would throw this progress into reverse.
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This progress is already thrown into reverse by automation.
But whilst a caveman could always try his chance to find another cave, modernism corners everything away and you get no chances.
Then why did about half a dozen states have state supported churches that plainly violated such a wall of separation?Separation of Church and State was meant (IMO) to thwart religious dogma controlling the State.
Because the restriction was only on the FEDERAL government, not the state governments, all of whom did not want OTHER STATES CHURCHES telling them what to do as they already had their own preferences.
The fear was of the church as an institution, not so much of the dogma, depending on whose it was.Then why did about half a dozen states have state supported churches that plainly violated such a wall of separation?Separation of Church and State was meant (IMO) to thwart religious dogma controlling the State.
Because the restriction was only on the FEDERAL government, not the state governments, all of whom did not want OTHER STATES CHURCHES telling them what to do as they already had their own preferences.
The State in my statement refers to the FEDERAL government.
There is no economic justification for this. And even if there was, half of all people of the world are not suitable for education. So the average living standard can't rise further, in fact it is falling sharply.This is why "modernism" is good: development leads to rising living standards and falling poverty rates. We can thank innovation, ingenuity, capitalism and the Rule of Law (as defined in Western Civilization). Ending modernism would throw this progress into reverse.
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This progress is already thrown into reverse by automation.
But whilst a caveman could always try his chance to find another cave, modernism corners everything away and you get no chances.
No, that is not necessarily the case. The industrial revolution raised living standards; so can the robot revolution. Agreed that the transition is going to be devastating for people who lack proper educations (I mean marketable, not propaganda degrees) and skills.
There is no economic justification for this. And even if there was, half of all people of the world are not suitable for education. So the average living standard can't rise further, in fact it is falling sharply.This is why "modernism" is good: development leads to rising living standards and falling poverty rates. We can thank innovation, ingenuity, capitalism and the Rule of Law (as defined in Western Civilization). Ending modernism would throw this progress into reverse.
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This progress is already thrown into reverse by automation.
But whilst a caveman could always try his chance to find another cave, modernism corners everything away and you get no chances.
No, that is not necessarily the case. The industrial revolution raised living standards; so can the robot revolution. Agreed that the transition is going to be devastating for people who lack proper educations (I mean marketable, not propaganda degrees) and skills.
There is no economic justification for this. And even if there was, half of all people of the world are not suitable for education. So the average living standard can't rise further, in fact it is falling sharply.This is why "modernism" is good: development leads to rising living standards and falling poverty rates. We can thank innovation, ingenuity, capitalism and the Rule of Law (as defined in Western Civilization). Ending modernism would throw this progress into reverse.
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This progress is already thrown into reverse by automation.
But whilst a caveman could always try his chance to find another cave, modernism corners everything away and you get no chances.
No, that is not necessarily the case. The industrial revolution raised living standards; so can the robot revolution. Agreed that the transition is going to be devastating for people who lack proper educations (I mean marketable, not propaganda degrees) and skills.
Nonsense. Where it is falling is in authoritarian/totalitarian nations which squash individual initiative. Developed societies have declining birth rates - we actually face shortages of skilled people, and that is going to get worse.
I'll refer to this quote again.
Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.
This is known as “bad luck.” - R.A. Heinlein.
