Why Testing Should Be Required To Vote

[CrusaderFrank]

This is the same reason why Israelis won't let "Palestinians" vote in their elections; they see what a fucking mess we've made of it

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Of course - remove the power of the vote from those that are poor and watch how they keep their rights intact.

Do you really understand what that means - you want an underclass that does not have the right to vote and by extension does not have any rights at all. Those will disappear pretty quickly as their 'masters' vote more shit away from them and over to themselves. Perhaps you can simply put chains on them and force them into servitude now - why bother with the interim...

No, you are over thinking it, just a measure to ensure lazy ass little black boys who contribute noting to society have no say in that society.

Really just an incentive for tit sucking blue gums to get off their lazy ass and go to work.

Little work = little vote ...........

But you go a head and keep spouting that repressing the poor ....................

They poor cause they don't work stupid ..

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

This is the same reason why Israelis won't let "Palestinians" vote in their elections; they see what a fucking mess we've made of it

No just like with blacks, instead of having families they can support based on their wage earning abilities, they breed for numbers of to voters.

Other cultures show much more constraint in family size.

The old statement, they breed like cockroaches had implications then which can be seen now .................

To your example muslims would be the same as blacks ...........

 

[paddymurphy]

Here's a test question to see if you should vote: Are you a financial support or drain on America?

I posted a thread on this in May - Voting Privileges System Needed US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

The thesis is that only those who financially support our country (in any give year) should be permitted to vote. This doesn't require any specific knowledge of American history or current events, but if you are making money and paying your taxes it means that you must know something.

I could get behind this ..............

Let's extend this one step farther, only those who work legally for the full 4 yr period get to vote in presidential elections.

and retirees?

Are they allowed to vote?

Sure, there would be qualifiers such as "physically fit", handicapped, age brackets, use some common sense .....................

I know you would like to paint this off as some compassion less act and me a bad guy for even agreeing with it.

Do any of you idiots who make such ridiculous suggestions ask yourselves how you would accomplish your moronic ideas? How do you determine if someone is working? Self employed people sometimes forego income while they build their business; living off savings, loans or money from relatives. Some people do very well; save millions and take a year or more off.

 

[Kondor3]

Ideal voting criteria for the future...

1. US citizen

2. 18 (or 21) or above

3. presents a valid State or Federal -issued Identity Card (driver's license, state ID, etc.) at the polling place

4. has passed a standardized national literacy test

5. is not on welfare (defined here as SNAP and/or TANF and/or similar state or local general assistance)

6. registers anew with each change of residence (rock-solid proof of citizenship and residency)

7. not a convicted felon

8. not dishonorably discharged from the United States armed forces

9. resident of the district in which you wish to vote

10. you are not presently and legally judged as mentally incompetent

11. criminal penalties two notches shy of crucifixion for violating the above

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Do any of you idiots who make such ridiculous suggestions ask yourselves how you would accomplish your moronic ideas? How do you determine if someone is working? Self employed people sometimes forego income while they build their business; living off savings, loans or money from relatives. Some people do very well; save millions and take a year or more off.

Ever heard of Income taxes, you are required to file SS and medicare tax on any income above $500.

Being a total fucking moron you have no clue self employed are required to file self employment taxes.

Individuals dba / business's are required to file taxes yearly.

Seriously, you come out acting as if you are a hero and now look you are a big fat zero....................

 

[rightwinger]

Ideal voting criteria for the future...

1. US citizen

2. 18 (or 21) or above

3. presents a valid State or Federal -issued Identity Card (driver's license, state ID, etc.) at the polling place

4. has passed a standardized national literacy test

5. is not on welfare (defined here as SNAP and/or TANF and/or similar state or local general assistance)

6. registers anew with each change of residence (rock-solid proof of citizenship and residency)

7. not a convicted felon

8. not dishonorably discharged from the United States armed forces

9. resident of the district in which you wish to vote

10. you are not presently and legally judged as mentally incompetent

11. criminal penalties two notches shy of crucifixion for violating the above

Shouldn't anyone receiving government aid be barred from voting? Or only poor people?

 

[initforme]

Yeah sure lets create a test to vote but at 77 I am entitled to an exemption. Facts are facts

 

[Kondor3]

Ideal voting criteria for the future...

1. US citizen

2. 18 (or 21) or above

3. presents a valid State or Federal -issued Identity Card (driver's license, state ID, etc.) at the polling place

4. has passed a standardized national literacy test

5. is not on welfare (defined here as SNAP and/or TANF and/or similar state or local general assistance)

6. registers anew with each change of residence (rock-solid proof of citizenship and residency)

7. not a convicted felon

8. not dishonorably discharged from the United States armed forces

9. resident of the district in which you wish to vote

10. you are not presently and legally judged as mentally incompetent

11. criminal penalties two notches shy of crucifixion for violating the above

Shouldn't anyone receiving government aid be barred from voting? Or only poor people?

If you have paid into the Social Security or Medicaid systems throughout your working career, you've done your bit for King and Country, and can still vote.

 

[rightwinger]

Ideal voting criteria for the future...

1. US citizen

2. 18 (or 21) or above

3. presents a valid State or Federal -issued Identity Card (driver's license, state ID, etc.) at the polling place

4. has passed a standardized national literacy test

5. is not on welfare (defined here as SNAP and/or TANF and/or similar state or local general assistance)

6. registers anew with each change of residence (rock-solid proof of citizenship and residency)

7. not a convicted felon

8. not dishonorably discharged from the United States armed forces

9. resident of the district in which you wish to vote

10. you are not presently and legally judged as mentally incompetent

11. criminal penalties two notches shy of crucifixion for violating the above

Shouldn't anyone receiving government aid be barred from voting? Or only poor people?

If you have paid into the Social Security or Medicaid systems throughout your working career, you've done your bit for King and Country, and can still vote.

How about people who pay sales tax, gas tax or local taxes?

 

[Kondor3]

Ideal voting criteria for the future...

1. US citizen

2. 18 (or 21) or above

3. presents a valid State or Federal -issued Identity Card (driver's license, state ID, etc.) at the polling place

4. has passed a standardized national literacy test

5. is not on welfare (defined here as SNAP and/or TANF and/or similar state or local general assistance)

6. registers anew with each change of residence (rock-solid proof of citizenship and residency)

7. not a convicted felon

8. not dishonorably discharged from the United States armed forces

9. resident of the district in which you wish to vote

10. you are not presently and legally judged as mentally incompetent

11. criminal penalties two notches shy of crucifixion for violating the above

Shouldn't anyone receiving government aid be barred from voting? Or only poor people?

If you have paid into the Social Security or Medicaid systems throughout your working career, you've done your bit for King and Country, and can still vote.

How about people who pay sales tax, gas tax or local taxes?

Only if they're not doing it with Welfare Money...

 

[FA_Q2]

Of course - remove the power of the vote from those that are poor and watch how they keep their rights intact.

Do you really understand what that means - you want an underclass that does not have the right to vote and by extension does not have any rights at all. Those will disappear pretty quickly as their 'masters' vote more shit away from them and over to themselves. Perhaps you can simply put chains on them and force them into servitude now - why bother with the interim...

No, you are over thinking it, just a measure to ensure lazy ass little black boys who contribute noting to society have no say in that society.

Really just an incentive for tit sucking blue gums to get off their lazy ass and go to work.

Little work = little vote ...........

But you go a head and keep spouting that repressing the poor ....................

They poor cause they don't work stupid ..

I am not over thinking anything. You appear to be under thinking it. I understand that you think this will limit voting to those that 'think correctly' in your little world. That is not the case.

You will find yourself in a government that sill soon bar YOU from voting.

 

[Truth2Know]

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and retirees?

Are they allowed to vote?

Sure, retirees can vote – as long as they meet the income tax metric. Or perhaps a reduced target that is age based.

Remember, wages are only one factor of income taxes paid. Interest, dividends, capital gains, IRA distributions, pensions, annuities, rental income, and social security benefits are all taxed as income. As a retiree, I know this very well.

 

[Truth2Know]

A person who lives under a bridge has as much a right to vote as a CEO

That is how our country was founded

No it's not. Here's some history of the vote: Voting rights in the United States - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Does it really make sense to you that a homeless person has as much say in how America is run as a CEO?

 

[rightwinger]

A person who lives under a bridge has as much a right to vote as a CEO

That is how our country was founded

No it's not. Here's some history of the vote: Voting rights in the United States - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Does it really make sense to you that a homeless person has as much say in how America is run as a CEO?

Absolutely

A homeless man will vote for the candidate who will make his life better
A CEO will vote for the candidate who will make his life better

It all evens out

 

[Truth2Know]

Here's a test question to see if you should vote: Are you a financial support or drain on America?

I posted a thread on this in May - Voting Privileges System Needed US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

The thesis is that only those who financially support our country (in any give year) should be permitted to vote. This doesn't require any specific knowledge of American history or current events, but if you are making money and paying your taxes it means that you must know something.

I could get behind this ..............

Let's extend this one step farther, only those who work legally for the full 4 yr period get to vote in presidential elections.

Of course - remove the power of the vote from those that are poor and watch how they keep their rights intact.

Do you really understand what that means - you want an underclass that does not have the right to vote and by extension does not have any rights at all. Those will disappear pretty quickly as their 'masters' vote more shit away from them and over to themselves. Perhaps you can simply put chains on them and force them into servitude now - why bother with the interim...

No voting system is perfect. The problem I see with the current "everyone gets a vote" system is the threat of a large, non-contributing group of people being manipulated by politicians who give away public funds to buy votes. Can't buy enough votes with the current voter base? No problem. Bring in illegal immigrants and don't check voter ID's.

The problem you see with having the privilege to vote tied to income taxes paid is that those who don't pay taxes have no say in selecting their representatives. This will enable even more to be taken from the poor by the rich. (By the way, how do you get blood from a turnip?)

I'd rather entrust the future of this nation to those who have demonstrated the ability to work and pay taxes than to those who have proven they have no inclination to work while demanding more and more.

 

[HenryBHough]

Is there any reason the citizenship test administered to legal and qualified immigrants should NOT be requisite in order to register to vote at all?

 

[Truth2Know]

A person who lives under a bridge has as much a right to vote as a CEO

That is how our country was founded

No it's not. Here's some history of the vote: Voting rights in the United States - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Does it really make sense to you that a homeless person has as much say in how America is run as a CEO?

Absolutely

A homeless man will vote for the candidate who will make his life better
A CEO will vote for the candidate who will make his life better

It all evens out

The number of CEO's is pretty fixed. The number of homeless, indigent, non-working citizens has no bounds. The unproductive will overwhelm the productive. Read Atlas Shrugged.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

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No voting system is perfect. The problem I see with the current "everyone gets a vote" system is the threat of a large, non-contributing group of people being manipulated by politicians who give away public funds to buy votes. Can't buy enough votes with the current voter base? No problem. Bring in illegal immigrants and don't check voter ID's.

The problem you see with having the privilege to vote tied to income taxes paid is that those who don't pay taxes have no say in selecting their representatives. This will enable even more to be taken from the poor by the rich. (By the way, how do you get blood from a turnip?)

I'd rather entrust the future of this nation to those who have demonstrated the ability to work and pay taxes than to those who have proven they have no inclination to work while demanding more and more.

I see so if the poor have nothing and the rich have it all, what exactly were the rich going to take advantage of the poor and take??

Why can most of you not say, yeah, working once a year for the majority of the year should entitle one to vote.

Why are ya'll so sure you need a voice when you put in no capital.

What exactly do those non workers contribute to society again??

 

[SuperDemocrat]

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Why can't we test if they are actually U.S. citizens before we test for anything else?