Why Socialism would be very difficult to adopt in the U.S.

[bripat9643]

Socialist ideals help the middle class prosper.

Wrong. Socialism is keeping the middle class down.

Taxed based services are Socialist ideals in that they are funded by everyone.

They are funded by everyone whether anyone wants them or not.

That's why it sucks.

 

[bripat9643]

What you mean is that commiemscumbags like you are trying to change socialism's image by lying about it.

Err, it doesn't matter what a word used to mean or how you want to apply it to make a point, socialism, in the first world, is used to reference things like universal healthcare, publicly owned railways, etc.. This is how it is applied, if you can't understand that, what a shame. Keep living in fear.

True, those are all examples of partial socialization. That doesn't alter the fact that commie scumbags like you lie about these enterprises and lie about socialism.

The more we socialize, the faster we swirl down the toilet bowl.

What lie am I telling? I agree, we need a mix of socialism and capitalism, the purest forms of both are evil.

There's a big fat lie right there. We don't need socialism at all.

So you want to completely abolish the government and anything related to public ownership?

Yes, including the military.

 

[nat4900]

The red scare still affects the idiots though.

Especially that part (about the red scare)...You're absolutely correct.

 

[nat4900]

They are funded by everyone whether anyone wants them or not.

That's why it sucks.

Yeah....I feel the same way about funding city parks on the other side of town.....LOL

 

[nat4900]

All three of those reasons are not only wrong, they're moronic.

Nothing confirms for me that I may be on the right track....then your criticism.
Thank you

 

[nat4900]

Interesting post.

I have several issues with it, though.

First, Socialism isn't about process...it's about ends. The same with capitalism. America is about process as much as it is ends.

There is a big big difference.

If you follow your own logic, then you may be saying that America is not capitalistic?

 

[bripat9643]

They are funded by everyone whether anyone wants them or not.

That's why it sucks.

Yeah....I feel the same way about funding city parks on the other side of town.....LOL

So why should you have to fund them?

 

[nat4900]

So why should you have to fund them?

,,,because those people on the other side of town are helping to fund the parks that I use, nitwit..............its part of the social compact.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Of course, there are many reasons why socialism is an anathema for many Americans....mostly in the right wing political sphere.

First, we are a nation that spews the rhetoric that we "love peace", but the reality is that we are neo-colonists (the euphemistic term for regime changers) we spend an inordinate amount of tax dollars on defense/offense (just listen to Carly Fiorina's speeches) and any country that has succeeded with socialism seldom indulges in war.

Second, we are so multicultural and multi-ethnical that most middle class (and poorer class) white skinned folks openly state, "I will NEVER be willing to give my hard earned money to those mooching darkies.)

But most of all, we could never easily become "socialists" (although many morons on the right think that Obama has already made us such)...because the term is hugely misunderstood by the uneducated masses who would willingly pay huge amounts of money to some private entity for a particular service, and bitch and moan when taxed by the federal government for that same service.

The bolded is where you fail. If someone is willing to pay for something they want the government has no business taxing everyone to provide that service. You can't have everything you want in life and expect someone else to share the cost. If you want it pay for it. If you don't want it or decide it's not worth it then you shouldn't be taxed to provide it.

Socialism should be impossible to sell to any thinking person. It's proven to fail every time.

 

[bripat9643]

So why should you have to fund them?

,,,because those people on the other side of town are helping to fund the parks that I use, nitwit..............its part of the social compact.

A better solution would be for everyone to fund their own parks, don't you think? Having everyone get into everyone else's pocket only makes the politicians happy.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

So why should you have to fund them?

,,,because those people on the other side of town are helping to fund the parks that I use, nitwit..............its part of the social compact.

So you both pay for parks with the added bonus of paying government officials ridiculous amounts of money to over see it. Get a neighborhood group together and take care of the park yourself and let the people on the other side of town do the same. Cut out the worthless middle man.

 

[francoHFW]

Yep, the meanings and applications of various words change over time, socialism isn't what it used to be, it is now applied differently. The red scare still affects the idiots though.

What you mean is that commie scumbags like you are trying to change socialism's image by lying about it.

Socialism is always democratic, communism NEVER. Try and figure that out, hater dupe.

 

[francoHFW]

So why should you have to fund them?

,,,because those people on the other side of town are helping to fund the parks that I use, nitwit..............its part of the social compact.

A better solution would be for everyone to fund their own parks, don't you think? Having everyone get into everyone else's pocket only makes the politicians happy.

Sanders is the socialist. True for him?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Yep, the meanings and applications of various words change over time, socialism isn't what it used to be, it is now applied differently. The red scare still affects the idiots though.

What you mean is that commie scumbags like you are trying to change socialism's image by lying about it.

Socialism is always democratic, communism NEVER. Try and figure that out, hater dupe.

Communism and social are always voted in. And the only way to get rid of it is war.

 

[francoHFW]

Of course, there are many reasons why socialism is an anathema for many Americans....mostly in the right wing political sphere.

First, we are a nation that spews the rhetoric that we "love peace", but the reality is that we are neo-colonists (the euphemistic term for regime changers) we spend an inordinate amount of tax dollars on defense/offense (just listen to Carly Fiorina's speeches) and any country that has succeeded with socialism seldom indulges in war.

Second, we are so multicultural and multi-ethnical that most middle class (and poorer class) white skinned folks openly state, "I will NEVER be willing to give my hard earned money to those mooching darkies.)

But most of all, we could never easily become "socialists" (although many morons on the right think that Obama has already made us such)...because the term is hugely misunderstood by the uneducated masses who would willingly pay huge amounts of money to some private entity for a particular service, and bitch and moan when taxed by the federal government for that same service.

The bolded is where you fail. If someone is willing to pay for something they want the government has no business taxing everyone to provide that service. You can't have everything you want in life and expect someone else to share the cost. If you want it pay for it. If you don't want it or decide it's not worth it then you shouldn't be taxed to provide it.

Socialism should be impossible to sell to any thinking person. It's proven to fail every time.

That's communism ferchrissake.

 

[David_42]

Yep, the meanings and applications of various words change over time, socialism isn't what it used to be, it is now applied differently. The red scare still affects the idiots though.

What you mean is that commie scumbags like you are trying to change socialism's image by lying about it.

Socialism is always democratic, communism NEVER. Try and figure that out, hater dupe.

Communism and social are always voted in. And the only way to get rid of it is war.

Where was communism ever voted in?

 

[bripat9643]

Yep, the meanings and applications of various words change over time, socialism isn't what it used to be, it is now applied differently. The red scare still affects the idiots though.

What you mean is that commie scumbags like you are trying to change socialism's image by lying about it.

Socialism is always democratic, communism NEVER. Try and figure that out, hater dupe.

Communism is socialism, dumbass. Your claim is bullshit propaganda.

The closer you get to pure socialism, the closer you get to the police state. That's the only distinction between what you call "socialism" and communism. The former is just a half-assed attempt at socialism. If they were really trying they would be herding people into Gulags and executing economic traitors for sabotaging the latest 5 year plan.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Of course, there are many reasons why socialism is an anathema for many Americans....mostly in the right wing political sphere.

First, we are a nation that spews the rhetoric that we "love peace", but the reality is that we are neo-colonists (the euphemistic term for regime changers) we spend an inordinate amount of tax dollars on defense/offense (just listen to Carly Fiorina's speeches) and any country that has succeeded with socialism seldom indulges in war.

Second, we are so multicultural and multi-ethnical that most middle class (and poorer class) white skinned folks openly state, "I will NEVER be willing to give my hard earned money to those mooching darkies.)

But most of all, we could never easily become "socialists" (although many morons on the right think that Obama has already made us such)...because the term is hugely misunderstood by the uneducated masses who would willingly pay huge amounts of money to some private entity for a particular service, and bitch and moan when taxed by the federal government for that same service.

The bolded is where you fail. If someone is willing to pay for something they want the government has no business taxing everyone to provide that service. You can't have everything you want in life and expect someone else to share the cost. If you want it pay for it. If you don't want it or decide it's not worth it then you shouldn't be taxed to provide it.

Socialism should be impossible to sell to any thinking person. It's proven to fail every time.

That's communism ferchrissake.

What in the hell are you talking about? What is communism?

 

[bripat9643]

Of course, there are many reasons why socialism is an anathema for many Americans....mostly in the right wing political sphere.

First, we are a nation that spews the rhetoric that we "love peace", but the reality is that we are neo-colonists (the euphemistic term for regime changers) we spend an inordinate amount of tax dollars on defense/offense (just listen to Carly Fiorina's speeches) and any country that has succeeded with socialism seldom indulges in war.

Second, we are so multicultural and multi-ethnical that most middle class (and poorer class) white skinned folks openly state, "I will NEVER be willing to give my hard earned money to those mooching darkies.)

But most of all, we could never easily become "socialists" (although many morons on the right think that Obama has already made us such)...because the term is hugely misunderstood by the uneducated masses who would willingly pay huge amounts of money to some private entity for a particular service, and bitch and moan when taxed by the federal government for that same service.

The bolded is where you fail. If someone is willing to pay for something they want the government has no business taxing everyone to provide that service. You can't have everything you want in life and expect someone else to share the cost. If you want it pay for it. If you don't want it or decide it's not worth it then you shouldn't be taxed to provide it.

Socialism should be impossible to sell to any thinking person. It's proven to fail every time.

That's communism ferchrissake.

Which is socialism.

 

[David_42]

Of course, there are many reasons why socialism is an anathema for many Americans....mostly in the right wing political sphere.

First, we are a nation that spews the rhetoric that we "love peace", but the reality is that we are neo-colonists (the euphemistic term for regime changers) we spend an inordinate amount of tax dollars on defense/offense (just listen to Carly Fiorina's speeches) and any country that has succeeded with socialism seldom indulges in war.

Second, we are so multicultural and multi-ethnical that most middle class (and poorer class) white skinned folks openly state, "I will NEVER be willing to give my hard earned money to those mooching darkies.)

But most of all, we could never easily become "socialists" (although many morons on the right think that Obama has already made us such)...because the term is hugely misunderstood by the uneducated masses who would willingly pay huge amounts of money to some private entity for a particular service, and bitch and moan when taxed by the federal government for that same service.

The bolded is where you fail. If someone is willing to pay for something they want the government has no business taxing everyone to provide that service. You can't have everything you want in life and expect someone else to share the cost. If you want it pay for it. If you don't want it or decide it's not worth it then you shouldn't be taxed to provide it.

Socialism should be impossible to sell to any thinking person. It's proven to fail every time.

That's communism ferchrissake.

What in the hell are you talking about? What is communism?

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