Why Shouldn't The VP Have Unilateral Power To Overturn Elections??

[struth]

It says nothing about the VP having any power over electoral votes .

yeah i does

read it again


ans the VP has no power in Congress? hahahab did you fail civics?

 

[BWK]

Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan revealed as one lawmaker who sent text messages to Mark Meadows

The House committee investigating the Capitol insurrection released a text Jordan forwarded to Meadows on Jan. 5 regarding Electoral College votes.

www.usatoday.com

"Ohio Republican Rep. Jim Jordan is among the lawmakers who texted with Mark Meadows, chief of staff to former President Donald Trump. Jordan forwarded a text message to Meadows, regarding a legal theory that then-Vice President Mike Pence could prevent the certification of Electoral College votes from the 2020 election, according to CNN. The message Jordan forwarded originally came from former Pentagon Inspector General Joseph Schmitz, according to reports from CNN, Politico and NBC. Jordan spokesman Russell Dye confirmed the text's authenticity to CNN.

"A portion of the text message reads: “On January 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, should call out all the electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all -- 'No legislative act,’ wrote Alexander Hamilton in Federalist No. 78, ‘contrary to the Constitution, can be valid."

Bam, that is the ball game.....Alexander Hamilton said it himself...no legislative act that is unconstitutional can be valid..therefore, all of those electoral votes are henceforth, invalid....even tho Hamilton was talking about federal courts having the power to determine what laws or valid or not; not that the VP alone should be able to have that power with regards to election results...but still...it sounds good to quote the Federalist papers and stuff...

But it does bring up the question.....In the spirit of Dick Cheney and the way he grew the powers of the executive branch (especially the VP powers) -- why can't the Vice President be able to unilaterally throw out election results that he feels are invalid due to unconstitutional election laws and strong feelings and suspicions of widespread voter fraud?? Why are Dems and the lame-stream media acting like what the Trump admin and others in the GOP were pushing Pence to do was something bad?? Knowing the respect for fairness and upholding the Constitution that Conservatives have; I am sure they would be just as passionate about this belief if the current VP decides to do that herself in 2024...she can point to the report that over 400 cases of voter fraud was discovered in 2020..with potentially millions of fraudulent votes to come in 2024 -- wouldn't she have grounds to declare all of the electoral votes invalid??

Alexander Hamilton wrote that before there was an established government for the United States. So no, that is not the ball game.

 

[BWK]

Pence could have shown real leadership and have insisted on an audit of the 2020 Presidential election. There was certainly a massive amount of evidence that the Democrats were using the scam of unverified mail in and harvested ballots in Democrat controlled swing districts.

Having a real audit was not overthrowing an election but just making sure the election was legitimate. It was the right thing to do.

But he didn't. He joined the filthy ass Swamp and let the Democrats get away with the thievery rather than show courage to do the right thing.

He will go down in history as a traitor to his country.

There was no significant voter fraud found, and there still isn't. You are a liar. And how do this forum know that? Because you are not going to produce any amount of fraud that would make a difference to anything. Now, prove to me you are not a liar.

 

[Lesh]

yeah i does

read it again


ans the VP has no power in Congress? hahahab did you fail civics?

Post the relevant section. Ya don't even need a link

And the VP breaks ties in the Senate. I understand civics very well asshole

 

[struth]

Post the relevant section. Ya don't even need a link

And the VP breaks ties in the Senate. I understand civics very well asshole

the VP is the President of the Senate.

3 USC Section 15…i already provided the link

 

[Lesh]

the VP is the President of the Senate.

3 USC Section 15…i already provided the link

I understand that you provided "A" link. Quote the relative section that gives the VP the power to decide whether or not a slate of electors is legitimate.

You obviously can't do that

 

[struth]

I understand that you provided "A" link. Quote the relative section that gives the VP the power to decide whether or not a slate of electors is legitimate.

You obviously can't do that

in provide the link to the code, the code is the relevant part.

i am not sure how more clear it can be

 

[bendog]

Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan revealed as one lawmaker who sent text messages to Mark Meadows

The House committee investigating the Capitol insurrection released a text Jordan forwarded to Meadows on Jan. 5 regarding Electoral College votes.

www.usatoday.com

"Ohio Republican Rep. Jim Jordan is among the lawmakers who texted with Mark Meadows, chief of staff to former President Donald Trump. Jordan forwarded a text message to Meadows, regarding a legal theory that then-Vice President Mike Pence could prevent the certification of Electoral College votes from the 2020 election, according to CNN. The message Jordan forwarded originally came from former Pentagon Inspector General Joseph Schmitz, according to reports from CNN, Politico and NBC. Jordan spokesman Russell Dye confirmed the text's authenticity to CNN.

"A portion of the text message reads: “On January 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, should call out all the electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all -- 'No legislative act,’ wrote Alexander Hamilton in Federalist No. 78, ‘contrary to the Constitution, can be valid."

Bam, that is the ball game.....Alexander Hamilton said it himself...no legislative act that is unconstitutional can be valid..therefore, all of those electoral votes are henceforth, invalid....even tho Hamilton was talking about federal courts having the power to determine what laws or valid or not; not that the VP alone should be able to have that power with regards to election results...but still...it sounds good to quote the Federalist papers and stuff...

But it does bring up the question.....In the spirit of Dick Cheney and the way he grew the powers of the executive branch (especially the VP powers) -- why can't the Vice President be able to unilaterally throw out election results that he feels are invalid due to unconstitutional election laws and strong feelings and suspicions of widespread voter fraud?? Why are Dems and the lame-stream media acting like what the Trump admin and others in the GOP were pushing Pence to do was something bad?? Knowing the respect for fairness and upholding the Constitution that Conservatives have; I am sure they would be just as passionate about this belief if the current VP decides to do that herself in 2024...she can point to the report that over 400 cases of voter fraud was discovered in 2020..with potentially millions of fraudulent votes to come in 2024 -- wouldn't she have grounds to declare all of the electoral votes invalid??

Aaron Burr approves this message. LOL

 

[lennypartiv]

yeah he shall, and as i highlighted in the link to the law, what happens when the votes are objected to

Dems don't understand that. Pence had a right to stop the fraudulent votes from being counted.

 

[struth]

Dems don't understand that. Pence had a right to stop the fraudulent votes from being counted.

well he had a right to address the legally made objections.

 

[Colin norris]

Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan revealed as one lawmaker who sent text messages to Mark Meadows

The House committee investigating the Capitol insurrection released a text Jordan forwarded to Meadows on Jan. 5 regarding Electoral College votes.

www.usatoday.com

"Ohio Republican Rep. Jim Jordan is among the lawmakers who texted with Mark Meadows, chief of staff to former President Donald Trump. Jordan forwarded a text message to Meadows, regarding a legal theory that then-Vice President Mike Pence could prevent the certification of Electoral College votes from the 2020 election, according to CNN. The message Jordan forwarded originally came from former Pentagon Inspector General Joseph Schmitz, according to reports from CNN, Politico and NBC. Jordan spokesman Russell Dye confirmed the text's authenticity to CNN.

"A portion of the text message reads: “On January 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, should call out all the electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all -- 'No legislative act,’ wrote Alexander Hamilton in Federalist No. 78, ‘contrary to the Constitution, can be valid."

Bam, that is the ball game.....Alexander Hamilton said it himself...no legislative act that is unconstitutional can be valid..therefore, all of those electoral votes are henceforth, invalid....even tho Hamilton was talking about federal courts having the power to determine what laws or valid or not; not that the VP alone should be able to have that power with regards to election results...but still...it sounds good to quote the Federalist papers and stuff...

But it does bring up the question.....In the spirit of Dick Cheney and the way he grew the powers of the executive branch (especially the VP powers) -- why can't the Vice President be able to unilaterally throw out election results that he feels are invalid due to unconstitutional election laws and strong feelings and suspicions of widespread voter fraud?? Why are Dems and the lame-stream media acting like what the Trump admin and others in the GOP were pushing Pence to do was something bad?? Knowing the respect for fairness and upholding the Constitution that Conservatives have; I am sure they would be just as passionate about this belief if the current VP decides to do that herself in 2024...she can point to the report that over 400 cases of voter fraud was discovered in 2020..with potentially millions of fraudulent votes to come in 2024 -- wouldn't she have grounds to declare all of the electoral votes invalid??

Are you serious? Why have an election at all if you can throw it out at will?
Isn't that what Der fuhrer wanted on 6/1?

Where's this democracy and patriotism you bellow about?

 

[lennypartiv]

Are you serious? Why have an election at all if you can throw it out at will?

Shouldn't someone in government be able to throw out the fraudulent votes?

 

[Colin norris]

Shouldn't someone in government be able to throw out the fraudulent votes?

There was no fraud big enough to swing the election. That's why Biden is POTUS.
Can you get that through your thick skull.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Shouldn't someone in government be able to throw out the fraudulent votes?

Yes...which is why when Kamala throws out all of those fraudulent votes in 2024 -- you will be right there -- passionately defending her right to do it

 

[lennypartiv]

Yes...which is why when Kamala throws out all of those fraudulent votes in 2024 -- you will be right there -- passionately defending her right to do it

New laws are being passed to prevent another stolen election.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Can you get that through your thick skull.

Have you got the courage to say that to him in public? Of course not. You hide behind your silly name because you've got no guts.

 

[bendog]

Shouldn't someone in government be able to throw out the fraudulent votes?

Trump lost EVERY court case he brought.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

New laws are being passed to prevent another stolen election.

Yall said that last year...when Conservatives passed new laws....in fact, yall have been saying that since the Voting Rights Act was gutted....

Except, the only thing Conservatives have done since then is try to suppress voting rights even more....and you are still claiming that despite all of these restrictions -- elections are still being stolen??

Why vote at all....Those Dems are much too powerful and brilliant for your feeble laws

 

[M14 Shooter]

Except, the only thing Conservatives have done since then is try to suppress voting rights even more..

The only votes conservatives have tried to suppress are by those who would vote illegally.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The only votes conservatives have tried to suppress are by those who would vote illegally.

Ignirabt lie from someone who has no idea what he is talking about.