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Federal law can trump (no pun intended) state and local law. Why are Republicans not wanting to vote on the George Floyd Bill in the Senate?well yeah it had to be voted on to be a lawIt was useless because there are no concrete laws in the bill, it is just recommendations and more training and blah, blah, blah, blah.what was useless about it? what should be in the law?No we have already discussed it, it just needs to be put into law. We don't need to listen to Tim Scott present a bunch of useless bullshit that is not going to change a damn thing.don’t we have to discuss what to reform and put in the law?The time for discussing it is over, we have been discussing it for over 100yrs. The time is here to put it into action and that Republican bill that was served up by Tim Scott was nothing but bullshit.we do...but the dems blocked even discussing it in 2020...that’s why we see dem run executives behaving this way
"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.
Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified — “awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."
Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?
The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.Despite repeated attempts by leftist to turn the Executive Branch in one centralized power...we haven't done that in this country. Police are not judges, and juries they don't get to decide guilt and then punishment. So that's why.
They have when it comes to black folks, they operate in any manner that they want to.
Certainly, there are cases in which a police officer can use deadly force, such as when a suspect threatens their lives, or the lives of the public...such as in a high speed chase. However, it appears in this case, the threat was no longer there, as the suspect was caught. Those involved seem to be getting what they deserved.
A 50 hour suspension.
This is one of the main reasons we need police reform in this country.
so not sure what you mean
well there was certainly training and recommmendations to states...since the fed has no power over localities like that
but there were certainly things on a federal law enforcement levela federal law can’t order a state agency to administer federal law.
One, the Dem Senate majority leader hasn’t brought it to the floor
but also because it sets up quotas for the number of people of race and gender an officer needs to stop
and two it takes away immunity protections for officers but not their bosses that make the laws or orders them to endoece the laws
how?Federal law can trump (no pun intended) state and local law. Why are Republicans not wanting to vote on the George Floyd Bill in the Senate?well yeah it had to be voted on to be a lawIt was useless because there are no concrete laws in the bill, it is just recommendations and more training and blah, blah, blah, blah.what was useless about it? what should be in the law?No we have already discussed it, it just needs to be put into law. We don't need to listen to Tim Scott present a bunch of useless bullshit that is not going to change a damn thing.don’t we have to discuss what to reform and put in the law?The time for discussing it is over, we have been discussing it for over 100yrs. The time is here to put it into action and that Republican bill that was served up by Tim Scott was nothing but bullshit.we do...but the dems blocked even discussing it in 2020...that’s why we see dem run executives behaving this way
"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.
Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified — “awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."
Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?
The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.Despite repeated attempts by leftist to turn the Executive Branch in one centralized power...we haven't done that in this country. Police are not judges, and juries they don't get to decide guilt and then punishment. So that's why.
They have when it comes to black folks, they operate in any manner that they want to.
Certainly, there are cases in which a police officer can use deadly force, such as when a suspect threatens their lives, or the lives of the public...such as in a high speed chase. However, it appears in this case, the threat was no longer there, as the suspect was caught. Those involved seem to be getting what they deserved.
A 50 hour suspension.
This is one of the main reasons we need police reform in this country.
so not sure what you mean
well there was certainly training and recommmendations to states...since the fed has no power over localities like that
but there were certainly things on a federal law enforcement levela federal law can’t order a state agency to administer federal law.
A federal law can be put in place that pretty much aligns policing from NC to CA.
One, the Dem Senate majority leader hasn’t brought it to the floor
but also because it sets up quotas for the number of people of race and gender an officer needs to stop
and two it takes away immunity protections for officers but not their bosses that make the laws or orders them to endoece the laws
That bill passed the House in June 25, 2020 and here is what republicans stated.
President Donald Trump's administration said he would veto the bill. McConnell has said the bill would not pass the Republican-held chamber.
After the GOP policing bill stalled this week, blocked by Democrats, Trump shrugged.
"If nothing happens with it, it's one of those things," Trump said. "We have different philosophies."
Actually their biggest hang ups are, qualified immunity protections, reduced funding, no knock warrants and choke holds. Those are the main things republicans oppose.how?Federal law can trump (no pun intended) state and local law. Why are Republicans not wanting to vote on the George Floyd Bill in the Senate?well yeah it had to be voted on to be a lawIt was useless because there are no concrete laws in the bill, it is just recommendations and more training and blah, blah, blah, blah.what was useless about it? what should be in the law?No we have already discussed it, it just needs to be put into law. We don't need to listen to Tim Scott present a bunch of useless bullshit that is not going to change a damn thing.don’t we have to discuss what to reform and put in the law?The time for discussing it is over, we have been discussing it for over 100yrs. The time is here to put it into action and that Republican bill that was served up by Tim Scott was nothing but bullshit.we do...but the dems blocked even discussing it in 2020...that’s why we see dem run executives behaving this way
"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.
Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified — “awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."
Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?
The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.Despite repeated attempts by leftist to turn the Executive Branch in one centralized power...we haven't done that in this country. Police are not judges, and juries they don't get to decide guilt and then punishment. So that's why.
They have when it comes to black folks, they operate in any manner that they want to.
Certainly, there are cases in which a police officer can use deadly force, such as when a suspect threatens their lives, or the lives of the public...such as in a high speed chase. However, it appears in this case, the threat was no longer there, as the suspect was caught. Those involved seem to be getting what they deserved.
A 50 hour suspension.
This is one of the main reasons we need police reform in this country.
so not sure what you mean
well there was certainly training and recommmendations to states...since the fed has no power over localities like that
but there were certainly things on a federal law enforcement levela federal law can’t order a state agency to administer federal law.
A federal law can be put in place that pretty much aligns policing from NC to CA.
One, the Dem Senate majority leader hasn’t brought it to the floor
but also because it sets up quotas for the number of people of race and gender an officer needs to stop
and two it takes away immunity protections for officers but not their bosses that make the laws or orders them to endoece the laws
That bill passed the House in June 25, 2020 and here is what republicans stated.
President Donald Trump's administration said he would veto the bill. McConnell has said the bill would not pass the Republican-held chamber.
After the GOP policing bill stalled this week, blocked by Democrats, Trump shrugged.
"If nothing happens with it, it's one of those things," Trump said. "We have different philosophies."
yes i told you why they opposed it
and trump isn’t president nor is mcconnell senate majority leader.
actually the GoP proposed a no knock warrant billActually their biggest hang ups are, qualified immunity protections, reduced funding, no knock warrants and choke holds. Those are the main things republicans oppose.how?Federal law can trump (no pun intended) state and local law. Why are Republicans not wanting to vote on the George Floyd Bill in the Senate?well yeah it had to be voted on to be a lawIt was useless because there are no concrete laws in the bill, it is just recommendations and more training and blah, blah, blah, blah.what was useless about it? what should be in the law?No we have already discussed it, it just needs to be put into law. We don't need to listen to Tim Scott present a bunch of useless bullshit that is not going to change a damn thing.don’t we have to discuss what to reform and put in the law?The time for discussing it is over, we have been discussing it for over 100yrs. The time is here to put it into action and that Republican bill that was served up by Tim Scott was nothing but bullshit.we do...but the dems blocked even discussing it in 2020...that’s why we see dem run executives behaving this way
"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.
Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified — “awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."
Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?
The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.Despite repeated attempts by leftist to turn the Executive Branch in one centralized power...we haven't done that in this country. Police are not judges, and juries they don't get to decide guilt and then punishment. So that's why.
They have when it comes to black folks, they operate in any manner that they want to.
Certainly, there are cases in which a police officer can use deadly force, such as when a suspect threatens their lives, or the lives of the public...such as in a high speed chase. However, it appears in this case, the threat was no longer there, as the suspect was caught. Those involved seem to be getting what they deserved.
A 50 hour suspension.
This is one of the main reasons we need police reform in this country.
so not sure what you mean
well there was certainly training and recommmendations to states...since the fed has no power over localities like that
but there were certainly things on a federal law enforcement levela federal law can’t order a state agency to administer federal law.
A federal law can be put in place that pretty much aligns policing from NC to CA.
One, the Dem Senate majority leader hasn’t brought it to the floor
but also because it sets up quotas for the number of people of race and gender an officer needs to stop
and two it takes away immunity protections for officers but not their bosses that make the laws or orders them to endoece the laws
That bill passed the House in June 25, 2020 and here is what republicans stated.
President Donald Trump's administration said he would veto the bill. McConnell has said the bill would not pass the Republican-held chamber.
After the GOP policing bill stalled this week, blocked by Democrats, Trump shrugged.
"If nothing happens with it, it's one of those things," Trump said. "We have different philosophies."
yes i told you why they opposed it
and trump isn’t president nor is mcconnell senate majority leader.
Actually their biggest hang ups are, qualified immunity protections, reduced funding, no knock warrants and choke holds. Those are the main things republicans oppose.
I can show case after case after case after case were the police have violated people's right and not a damn thing was done about it.
Breonna Taylor, George Floyd, Philando Castile, shall I go on. Who do you think footed the bill for those setttlements?
So they are punishing them in secret, sorry nobody is buying that bullshit.
You are not forced to become a cop, if you can't do the job find something else to do.
Let them leave if they can't handle the job.
The good cops aren't going anywhere, it is the bad cops who are pissed they can't just kill and beat folks and get away with it.
I can show case after case after case after case were the police have violated people's right and not a damn thing was done about it.
Nothing was done? Well show me two cases.
Breonna Taylor, George Floyd, Philando Castile, shall I go on. Who do you think footed the bill for those setttlements?
You supported my point and don't even realize it. If a police officer makes a false arrest, the complainant can sue the city.
So they are punishing them in secret, sorry nobody is buying that bullshit.
I never said that. What I did say is that you don't have any idea what punishment they received because the media is not in every police station around the country.
You are not forced to become a cop, if you can't do the job find something else to do.
They can do the job, but like I said, Satan is winning the war, so they are going to do the job in a more civilized environment.
Let them leave if they can't handle the job.
Glad you feel that way because that's exactly what they're doing.
The good cops aren't going anywhere, it is the bad cops who are pissed they can't just kill and beat folks and get away with it.
Sure the good cops are leaving because the city no longer has their back.
If the city is going to make their job much more dangerous, more risky, what's the point of staying?
How in the hell is their job more dangerous? So now you can't beat a handcuffed man to death or shoot and unarmed man to death your job is more dangerous. Smfh.
Non fiction. I do believe my co-worker told me what they were doing that was illegal but if so I forgot that detail. I have been retired for fifteen years and he told me the story a couple of years before I retired.So should we put that under fictional or non fictional?Before I retired I worked with a black man who told me an interesting story. When he was a younger man he and another guy were in the process of breaking the law when the cops showed up. So they ran.
My co-worker ran faster then his pal so he escaped. His pal went to jail and my co-worker was never caught. He was able to get a good paying job that required a government security clearance with his spotless record and he even got a pension when he retired. His pal faced a much harder life.
I’m not sure what the moral of this story should be but it does support the wisdom of those who suggest there should be an Eleventh Commandment, “Thou shalt not get caught.”
In passing, my black co-worker was a very religious man who was deeply involved in Bible study and occasionally gave a sermon in his church.
Keep Cherry picking the bad ones moron......it's not going to have any effect. There are flaws in every system yeah even in the MLK system dude.....how many NAACP officers have been prosecuted for embezzlement? Time to shut down the NAACP? Go to hell
"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.
Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified — “awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."
Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?
The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging aboutKeechoking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.
Go live with no police force dip shit...... Your fragile humanity would be beaten to death on the very first trip to the grocery store.....probably by a 13 year old. Want a perfect system? The cemetery offers that.That the authoritarian right advocates for the killing of innocent detainees by police comes as no surprise.Funny, what you just said , only applies to Democrats, because Andrew Cujo of New State has 10s of thousands of murdered elderly on his hands, and he still hasnt been in court yet, while Rudy got taken in because the crooked FBI thought they had shit on him....Because they’re suspects – innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?
That to conservatives this is a ‘question’ at all is repugnant.
I can show case after case after case after case were the police have violated people's right and not a damn thing was done about it.
Nothing was done? Well show me two cases.
Amadou Diallo, Eric Garner, Sean Bell.
Breonna Taylor, George Floyd, Philando Castile, shall I go on. Who do you think footed the bill for those setttlements?
You supported my point and don't even realize it. If a police officer makes a false arrest, the complainant can sue the city.
Hard to sue when you are DEAD.
So they are punishing them in secret, sorry nobody is buying that bullshit.
I never said that. What I did say is that you don't have any idea what punishment they received because the media is not in every police station around the country.
We have over 400yrs of history to know nothing is happening.
You are not forced to become a cop, if you can't do the job find something else to do.
They can do the job, but like I said, Satan is winning the war, so they are going to do the job in a more civilized environment.
So you think they should be able to beat, maim and kill whenever they like and never be brought to the Bar of Justice for it.
Let them leave if they can't handle the job.
Glad you feel that way because that's exactly what they're doing.
Good for them, go be a dog catcher.
The good cops aren't going anywhere, it is the bad cops who are pissed they can't just kill and beat folks and get away with it.
Sure the good cops are leaving because the city no longer has their back.
The city shouldn't have their back when they are beating and killing folks.
If the city is going to make their job much more dangerous, more risky, what's the point of staying?
How in the hell is their job more dangerous? So now you can't beat a handcuffed man to death or shoot and unarmed man to death your job is more dangerous. Smfh.
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Amadou Diallo, Eric Garner, Sean Bell.
Hard to sue when you are DEAD.
We have over 400yrs of history to know nothing is happening.
So you think they should be able to beat, maim and kill whenever they like and never be brought to the Bar of Justice for it.
good for them, go be a dog catcher.
the city shouldn't have their back when they are beating and killing folks.
Amadou Diallo, Eric Garner, Sean Bell.
Eric Garner, selling cigarettes illegally in front of a store causing the owner to lose sales. The police instructed him to get on the ground. Like many blacks, he decided he didn't have to listen to them. So they had to take him down by force. He didn't die from the police. Like Floyd, he died because he was in bad health and didn't take care of himself. This is how officers are trained. If a suspect refuses to surrender, they can't just walk away and say "Okay, you refuse to let us arrest you, maybe another time when you're in a better mood." The officers were in perfect conduct.
Amudou Diallo, was ordered by the police to show his hands because he fit the description of a multiple rape suspect and got out of an unidentifiable car. Instead he ran away from the police, stuck his hand in his pocket at 12:30 am when it was completely dark, and quickly pulled out his wallet. The police had no idea what was in his hand and fired multiple times. The officers were indicted by a Grand Jury and it was sent to trial. A jury of fellow citizens of different races found no wrongdoing by the officers given the circumstance and how Diallo responded to their orders. They were acquitted.
Bell was drunk. He and his loser friends were ordered by police to stop their car. Instead, Bell struck the ordering officer in an attempt to kill him, but because he was loaded, he crashed into another police vehicle. When they seen the person in the back seat pull his gun, they fired at the vehicle killing Bell, and wounding his lowlife buddies. While lowlife witnesses lied and said nobody from the car shot any gun, a forensic scientist debunked the liars, demonstrating that if nobody shot from inside the car, there would not have been window glass on the outside--only the inside. The judge had no choice but to dismiss the lying witnesses testimony, and used the investigation to find the officers not guilty.
Hard to sue when you are DEAD.
Who dies over a false arrest?
We have over 400yrs of history to know nothing is happening.
You don't have anything and you know it.
So you think they should be able to beat, maim and kill whenever they like and never be brought to the Bar of Justice for it.
They beat, maim and kill people who present a threat to them. If there was no real threat, the officers are held accountable.
good for them, go be a dog catcher.
So why are they quitting? What part of their job are they not allowed to do?Why would they do that when they are experienced officers with a great record? Let the dog catchers in commie cities be the police.[/ quote]
the city shouldn't have their back when they are beating and killing folks.
Sure they should if their actions are justified. The problem is that when you are simply doing your job, the bad guys are after you, the good guys won't take your side, you say F them. Let them all kill each other and let God sort them out.
So they are doing their job when they beat a hand cuffed man to death or blow an unarmed black man's brains out.
So you choke a man to death for selling single cigarettes in which the store he was in front of was doing the same thing. I agree there are officers trained to "Serve, protect and break a nword's neck. If the police had not choked him to death he wouldn't be dead today and as usual the got away with it.
Where did he run to? He was standing in the entrance way to his apartment bldg. Another innocent black man was murdered by the police and a racist judge let them get away with it.
The police came up on Bell with guns drawn and NEVER identified themselves. One cop emptied 2 clips into his car, the officer in charged admitted that the officers NEVER identified themselves and as usual a racist system let them walk.
That's the point you can't arrest a dead man.
How is a cuffed man a threat to them?
??? I was not addressing any rapist or woman raped at all.Sure I can understand using deadly force when the suspect threatens deadly force.
But running and not complying can be caused by other factors without any deadly threat or intent.
The best way I can suggest to prevent this is for community members to agree to go through the same screening, training and oath to uphold laws that police and military are required to follow.
That way, any mental or criminal issues that might cause a person to resist, react or refuse to comply can be diagnosed and treated, managed or even cured in advance. If police and community members know each other, and agree who is a threat or not, we can solve those problems in advance.
Right now the political focus is on weeding out the corrupt or abusive dangerous police. When we agree to also weed out dangerous civilians hiding behind law abiding citizens, then we have a fair process and can address and resolve the true causes of criminal abuse and addictions, violations and violence.
The problem is you are trying to blame the woman being raped over the rapist.
Our problem is not the police, our problem is black people who refuse to comply with them. Nearly every death at the hands of police officers have one thing in common, and that is the suspect didn't follow police orders.
As for what a person has to go through to become a police officer, it's much more stringent than the military. The son of a friend of mine became a cop. When he applied for the Ohio State Patrol, officers came to his parents house unannounced. They drilled him and his wife about their son. When they left, my friend says he watched them go to his next door neighbors houses, and then across the street. By phone, they also contacted a few of his high school teachers. They have to go through intense psychological exams. The police academy is no picnic either. As for military training, many departments prioritize veterans, especially war veterans who seen action on many occasions.
As a CCW holder in my state, I am under no obligation to only use deadly force if my attacker is using deadly force. So why shouldn't the same rules apply to a police officer? Our CCW laws mirror most around the country. It reads "A CCW holder can use deadly force if they believe they (or others) are in jeopardy of serious bodily harm or death." Nowhere in the country will you find a CCW holder must be threatened with a deadly weapon in order for them to use deadly force.
There are several solutions to this problem. One would be the least popular which is bring back segregation. The other is for police officers to visit the high schools in their city for an assembly. There they would teach students how they were trained, why they make the demands of a suspect that they do, and what can happen to a police officer if the suspect doesn't comply.
??? I was not addressing any rapist or woman raped at all.
I was replying to the question if the act of noncompliance with police
warranted getting shot to death.
The standard police policy is if the person poses immediate danger and threat,
yes, that person can get shot after police warn them they will have to shoot if the person refused to comply.
If the man were in process of raping or attacking a person and refused to stop,
YES, of course that person can get shot, similar to the girl attacking others with a knife.
Seriously?? In what world is running from police punishable by death??
"Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man’s last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years.
Troopers initially told Greene’s family he died on impact after crashing into a tree during the chase. Only now in the footage obtained by the AP from one trooper's body camera can the public see for the first time some of what happened during the arrest. State Police brass initially argued the troopers’ use of force was justified — “awful but lawful,” as ranking officials described it — and did not open an administrative investigation until 474 days after Greene’s death."
Yea, I know it may look bad for the police to repeatedly lie and file false reports; but none of this would have ever been known about if it wasn't for some meddling emergency room doctor noticing the dead guy still had the taser prongs stuck in his back -- after being told he died from a car crash. But the only person to blame for this is Green himself; he shouldn't have fled and took police on a high-speed chase..and for what? a traffic violation?
The question still remains however; why shouldn't cops be allowed to kill suspects who try to run away or don't follow police orders?? If the police tells you to stop, you stop...if you don't, you die...that simple....Now because of this; the lives of at least 2 officers have been destroyed. The officer who was bragging about choking and beating Mr. Greene and making him spit blood everywhere; that guy was fired for his involvement in this case; and later died hours after finding out he was fired (due to a single vehicle highway crash with karma). The other officer was later arrested for his connection to another police beating -- but as I said; none of this would have happened if we simply made it perfectly legal for cops to kill whoever tries to flee from police or doesn't comply with their orders.
I didn't say blame the police either.??? I was not addressing any rapist or woman raped at all.
I was replying to the question if the act of noncompliance with police
warranted getting shot to death.
The standard police policy is if the person poses immediate danger and threat,
yes, that person can get shot after police warn them they will have to shoot if the person refused to comply.
If the man were in process of raping or attacking a person and refused to stop,
YES, of course that person can get shot, similar to the girl attacking others with a knife.
I think the point flew over your head. The rape thing was a comparison. Placing the blame on police instead of the suspect is only making things worse because we are showing the criminal element support instead of resistance. We should be supporting our police in most all matters instead of the criminal.
BLM doesn't give a damn about any black lives. BLM cares about making money and getting the spotlight. Since most all police shootings are the fault of the suspect, if they really wanted to save black lives, they would promote every black person do exactly as a police officer demands. If they could manage to get black people to do that, they'd save a hell of a lot more black lives than with protests or riots that only get more blacks hurt, killed, or in trouble with the law, and even prison.
With their newfound fame they could pressure Congress to increase penalties for gun offenses. Carrying an illegal gun is an automatic 5 years in prison up to 15 years. Using a firearm in a criminal act is an automatic 20 years in prison up to life whether somebody is killed or not. All drive by shootings should be considered a first degree felony of attempted murder, even if they don't hit anybody with a minimum of 15 year prison sentence.
A strong enough deterrent works every time it's tried. Just look at how great our border situation was under President Trump compared to Biden when he removed most all of Trump's policies. Now that's a mess, just like our major cities are today with crime now double digits higher than over a year before.
So you choke a man to death for selling single cigarettes in which the store he was in front of was doing the same thing. I agree there are officers trained to "Serve, protect and break a nword's neck. If the police had not choked him to death he wouldn't be dead today and as usual the got away with it.
He was never choked. The officer grabbed him around the neck to pull him to the ground. He fought with the cops, that's why he died. Like Floyd, he was able to breathe just fine. If he could not breathe, it would have been impossible for them to yell, talk, and pant.
Where did he run to? He was standing in the entrance way to his apartment bldg. Another innocent black man was murdered by the police and a racist judge let them get away with it.
He ran from the unmarked car to his apartment building, pulled his wallet out of his jacket, and turned around at officers. Freeze means one thing: Don't move. Freeze does not mean run away. Freeze does not mean put your hands in your pocket. Freeze does not mean quickly turn towards the officers with something in your hand. Freeze means freeze.
The police came up on Bell with guns drawn and NEVER identified themselves. One cop emptied 2 clips into his car, the officer in charged admitted that the officers NEVER identified themselves and as usual a racist system let them walk.
No officer never admitted that. That was a lie told by lying witnesses; the same witnesses that stated there was no shooting from inside the car that the forensic scientist proved a complete lie. Bell tried to kill a police officer with a deadly weapon--an automobile. The officer instructed to see everybody's hands. One lowlife pulled out a gun and started firing at the officers. The case was open and shut. It shouldn't even have made it to court.
That's the point you can't arrest a dead man.
Meaning what? If you are arrested and comply with all orders, you don't have to worry about dying.
How is a cuffed man a threat to them?
There was a story not long ago about a cuffed suspect that had access to a gun in his pants, and shot a police officer. But the reason they keep intoxicated suspects restrained is so they don't hurt themselves or other people. Depending on the substance used, intoxicated people get super human strength. They have the ability to fight off cops even cuffed and run in the middle of traffic hurting or killing themselves along with an innocent driver.
More bullshit, these clowns were indicted on 2nd degree murder charges, the trial was moved to a lily white town in upstate NY where a white, racist judge let them off with murder and then the city paid his family 61 million dollars.
A department administrative trial found the officers acted improperly during the 2006 shooting incident, New York Police Department Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly fired Det. Gescard Isnora; fellow detectives Marc Cooper, Michael Oliver and Lt. Gary Napoli announced they will resign. NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said, “There was nothing in the record to warrant overturning the decision” of punishing the officers.
Of course a white judge let them get away with murder, it's just par for the course.
Lt Gary Napoli, who has also been accused of incompetence, has also testified he didn't hear his men identify themselves as cops before they killed Bell on his wedding day - and badly wounded two of his buddies.
Well we know that is a lie, that rule applies to white folks. Hell we have seen whites shoot cops, come at cops with knives, drive off from cops and you don't see not one shot.
You are patted down when cuffed, how many have pulled a gun out of their pocket while lying face down with an officer on top of them.
