Why Russia?

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nobody has answered the question yet: How has Russia benefited from Trump being elected President?

Absolutely Russia has benefitted from an American president who is weakening our NATO alliances, undermines American Intelligence and gives support to Putin's bullshit.

President Trump Reportedly Wanted the U.S. to Leave NATO in 2018

Trump discussed withdrawing from Nato several times in 2018, aides say

Absolutely Russia has benefitted from an American president who is weakening our NATO alliances, undermines American Intelligence and gives support to Putin's bullshit.

He's been out of office for over 2 years, stop talking about Obama.

Stupid and lame? I guess it goes hand in hand for you.

You show me when Obama was mulling over pulling out of NATO, untill then you should just STFU with your rediculous what-aboutisms and false equivalences.

You show me when Obama was mulling over pulling out of NATO,

He showed how tough he was when he pussied out of putting ABM installations in Poland and the Czech Republic, eh?

 

[Dragonlady]

We've been hearing for over the last two years how "Russian trolls/bots are trying to influence our elections with their propaganda." I also expect that we'll be hearing it more as the 2020 election grown near.

But I can't for the life of me figure out the logic behind that often-repeated phrase. Can someone please provide a valid reason why Russia would rather have a President Trump in office, as opposed to any of the socialist-leaning Democrats who will be running?

This makes absolutely no sense.

Putin blames the US for interfering his election in 2000, and he blames the American government in general, and the Clntons in particular, for that loss. Because of this hatred this whole line that Hillary was the one cooperating with the Russians is total bullshit. Putin wouldn't cross the road to piss on Hillary Clinton if she were on fire, much less help her win her hearts desire - the US Presidency. Putin said in Helsinki that he wanted Trump to win the election.

Putin is a disruptor. His economy is in trouble, and he's trying to rebuild the Soviet Empire, to distract Russians from an economy which is floundering under multiple international sanction. The collapse of oil price has hit Russia especially hard, since that's about the only export they have.l He wants NATO gone because he blames NATO for the fall of communism.

But most of all, Putin wants the Magnitsky Act gone, because he's stolen billions he'll never be able to enjoy as long as the world is sanction him and his oligarchs. And before these sanctions, Russia and the USA concluded a multi-billion dollar oil deal with Exxon which was quashed by the sanctions.

That's why Putin is interfering in Brexit, and the US Elections, the recent German elections, and the Italian elections. And Trump is busy fracturing NATO, pulling out of the UN programs, and all of the US arms treaties, strategic alliances, and trade deals, while XI and Putin are moving into the regions Trump is leaving.

However much Putin's election interference cost him, he's more than gotten his money's worth.

 

[AntonToo]

Because you are deeply ignorant.

Trump is two bit huckster Putin plays all days long like fiddle...if that fiddle had balls Putin would be squeezing firmly.

Trump's Helsinki Bow To Putin Leaves World Wondering: Why?

Obama led international coalition that instituted deep sanctions on Russia. Clinton supported them (and more) while Trump was against them.

When Clinton was busy supporting anti-Putin demonstrations (Vladimir Putin accuses Hillary Clinton of inciting protests), Trump was busy sucking Putin's ass:

Trump is two bit huckster Putin plays all days long like fiddle...

Is that why Hillary needed a reset button......and why Obama was so flexible?

2014 called and wants to tell you all about the flexible boot Obama put up Russia economy and Putin oligarchs' ass as a firm response to Kremlin's Ukranian mis-adventures.

Trump of course was against those 2014 sancitons, and was very busy asking Putin to "be my best friend"

2014 called and wants to tell you all about the flexible boot Obama put up Russia economy and Putin oligarchs' ass as a firm response to Kremlin's Ukranian mis-adventures.

2014? After Obama, in 2012, said Russia wasn't a threat?

Why was Obama such a moron?

Bullshit, he never said that. You can say he underestimated the extent of the threat...so what? How the hell is that even in the same realm of Trump's treasonous behaviour??

When push came to shove Obama confronted Putin's agression in 2014 and established serious consequences for Kremlin to consider going forward.

You can say he underestimated the extent of the threat...so what?

He said, after his re-election, he could be more flexible.....what did he mean?

During the debates he said.....

"And, the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back, because, the Cold War's been over for 20 years."

When push came to shove Obama confronted Putin's agression in 2014

After sucking Putin's ass for 5 years?

Sucking Putin's ass....Obama??? You are on drugs.

And yes, Cold war is long over and spending more millatary is CLEARLY not an effective way to counteract Russian covert ops like illegal meddling in our elections - on that Obama was 100% correct.

Again, nothing Obama did is even in the same universe of Trump's behavior when it comes to Putin.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Trump is two bit huckster Putin plays all days long like fiddle...

Is that why Hillary needed a reset button......and why Obama was so flexible?

2014 called and wants to tell you all about the flexible boot Obama put up Russia economy and Putin oligarchs' ass as a firm response to Kremlin's Ukranian mis-adventures.

Trump of course was against those 2014 sancitons, and was very busy asking Putin to "be my best friend"

2014 called and wants to tell you all about the flexible boot Obama put up Russia economy and Putin oligarchs' ass as a firm response to Kremlin's Ukranian mis-adventures.

2014? After Obama, in 2012, said Russia wasn't a threat?

Why was Obama such a moron?

Bullshit, he never said that. You can say he underestimated the extent of the threat...so what? How the hell is that even in the same realm of Trump's treasonous behaviour??

When push came to shove Obama confronted Putin's agression in 2014 and established serious consequences for Kremlin to consider going forward.

You can say he underestimated the extent of the threat...so what?

He said, after his re-election, he could be more flexible.....what did he mean?

During the debates he said.....

"And, the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back, because, the Cold War's been over for 20 years."

When push came to shove Obama confronted Putin's agression in 2014

After sucking Putin's ass for 5 years?

Sucking Putin's ass....Obama??? You are on drugs.

And yes, Cold war is long over and spending more millatary is CLEARLY not an effective way to counteract Russian covert ops like illegal meddling in our elections - on that Obama was 100% correct.

Again, nothing Obama did is even in the same universe of Trump's behavior when it comes to Putin.

Sucking Putin's ass....Obama???

Be sure to tell Vlad I'll be more flexible after the election. DURR.

 

[AntonToo]

2014 called and wants to tell you all about the flexible boot Obama put up Russia economy and Putin oligarchs' ass as a firm response to Kremlin's Ukranian mis-adventures.

Trump of course was against those 2014 sancitons, and was very busy asking Putin to "be my best friend"

2014 called and wants to tell you all about the flexible boot Obama put up Russia economy and Putin oligarchs' ass as a firm response to Kremlin's Ukranian mis-adventures.

2014? After Obama, in 2012, said Russia wasn't a threat?

Why was Obama such a moron?

Bullshit, he never said that. You can say he underestimated the extent of the threat...so what? How the hell is that even in the same realm of Trump's treasonous behaviour??

When push came to shove Obama confronted Putin's agression in 2014 and established serious consequences for Kremlin to consider going forward.

You can say he underestimated the extent of the threat...so what?

He said, after his re-election, he could be more flexible.....what did he mean?

During the debates he said.....

"And, the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back, because, the Cold War's been over for 20 years."

When push came to shove Obama confronted Putin's agression in 2014

After sucking Putin's ass for 5 years?

Sucking Putin's ass....Obama??? You are on drugs.

And yes, Cold war is long over and spending more millatary is CLEARLY not an effective way to counteract Russian covert ops like illegal meddling in our elections - on that Obama was 100% correct.

Again, nothing Obama did is even in the same universe of Trump's behavior when it comes to Putin.

Sucking Putin's ass....Obama???

Be sure to tell Vlad I'll be more flexible after the election. DURR.

Idiot, that's called negotiating.

Telling Vlad that you want him to be your best friend and what a strong leader he is and how Putin's word should be taken over findings of American intellignce - now THAT is some serious ass licking with a "hey I think we should pull out of NATO" intercourse.

You are such a fucking tool it's discusting.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

2014 called and wants to tell you all about the flexible boot Obama put up Russia economy and Putin oligarchs' ass as a firm response to Kremlin's Ukranian mis-adventures.

2014? After Obama, in 2012, said Russia wasn't a threat?

Why was Obama such a moron?

Bullshit, he never said that. You can say he underestimated the extent of the threat...so what? How the hell is that even in the same realm of Trump's treasonous behaviour??

When push came to shove Obama confronted Putin's agression in 2014 and established serious consequences for Kremlin to consider going forward.

You can say he underestimated the extent of the threat...so what?

He said, after his re-election, he could be more flexible.....what did he mean?

During the debates he said.....

"And, the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back, because, the Cold War's been over for 20 years."

When push came to shove Obama confronted Putin's agression in 2014

After sucking Putin's ass for 5 years?

Sucking Putin's ass....Obama??? You are on drugs.

And yes, Cold war is long over and spending more millatary is CLEARLY not an effective way to counteract Russian covert ops like illegal meddling in our elections - on that Obama was 100% correct.

Again, nothing Obama did is even in the same universe of Trump's behavior when it comes to Putin.

Sucking Putin's ass....Obama???

Be sure to tell Vlad I'll be more flexible after the election. DURR.

Idiot, that's called negotiating.

Telling Vlad that you want him to be your best friend and what a strong leader he is and how Putin's word should be taken over findings of American intellignce - now THAT is some serious ass licking with a "hey I think we should pull out of NATO" intercourse.

You are such a fucking tool it's discusting.

Poor girl.
You're so confused, you think Obama was a good President.

 

[JGalt]

Nobody has answered the question yet: How has Russia benefited from Trump being elected President? If it was so important that they "interfered", what were they expecting to gain from Trump's win?

How does russia benefit?
Sanctions lifted.
Would recognize Crimea as belonging to Russia.
Helped destabilize USA.
Trying to leave NATO.
Suspending nuclear treaty is gift to Putin.

Why does putin want Trump instead of anybody else? because Trump has a long history with russia.

Ok. So sanctions lifted on the production of Russian aluminum. From your first article:

"Trump administration officials and many Republicans who opposed the effort to keep the sanctions in place said they worried about the impact on the global aluminum industry....

...The sanctions on the company spurred demand for Chinese metal. China’s aluminum exports jumped to a record high in 2018."

Glad to see that you'd have no problem with the collapse of the global aluminum industry, and that you'd rather buy it from China.


From the second article:

"Among the provisions in the $716bn (£563bn) bill is a ban on spending Department of Defense money on “any activity that recognises the sovereignty of the Russian Federation over Crimea”, a region in Ukraine annexed by Moscow in 2014 during a period of regional political upheaval."

So is the Crimea our war to die on? John McCain and much of Congress seemed to think so. Maybe you should be happy that we didn't have to go to war over that.

From the third article:

"“From a point of view of strength… rather, he (Trump) has done what appears to be Putin’s goals. He has helped Putin destabilize the United States and interfere in the election, no matter whether it was purposeful or not,” the journalist added. He then explained that he knew from his own high-level sources that Mueller’s report would discuss this assessment..."

Dude, please. I won't even bother to address that idiocy, except to say that you leftists are the cause of all the instability we've had after the election.


And the fourth article: "Trying to leave NATO"

Did he? Nope. But those NATO countries are sure ponying up on what they owe us, aren't they? Apparently threats work.

And lastly, I don't care who does business with Russia, as Trump did in the past. Or China, or anyone else. That's what "bushiness" is meant to do, otherwise you go out of business.

Great, now you understand why Russia wants Trump and how Russia is benefiting from Trump.
But there is more: sanctions not imposed as required by law.

Required by law? Whose law? The UN? The EU?

Both of those entities can go fuck themselves.

 

[candycorn]

We've been hearing for over the last two years how "Russian trolls/bots are trying to influence our elections with their propaganda." I also expect that we'll be hearing it more as the 2020 election grown near.

But I can't for the life of me figure out the logic behind that often-repeated phrase. Can someone please provide a valid reason why Russia would rather have a President Trump in office, as opposed to any of the socialist-leaning Democrats who will be running?

This makes absolutely no sense.

When the Trump campaign approached the Russians about hacking the DNC and Hillary’s campaign manager….they gained a bargaining chip that they are holding over the blob's head. Which is why he continues to undermine his own intelligence staff. It creates division and turmoil in the US which is what they wanted to do in with their efforts to undermine the confidence in the election.

 

[Lesh]

Can you provide a valid reason why Russia would rather have a President Trump in office, as opposed to any of the socialist-leaning Democrats who will be running?

Already done...but then there's Putin's own words at the Helsinki conference and our own intel agencies

 

[JGalt]

We've been hearing for over the last two years how "Russian trolls/bots are trying to influence our elections with their propaganda." I also expect that we'll be hearing it more as the 2020 election grown near.

But I can't for the life of me figure out the logic behind that often-repeated phrase. Can someone please provide a valid reason why Russia would rather have a President Trump in office, as opposed to any of the socialist-leaning Democrats who will be running?

This makes absolutely no sense.

When the Trump campaign approached the Russians about hacking the DNC and Hillary’s campaign manager….they gained a bargaining chip that they are holding over the blob's head. Which is why he continues to undermine his own intelligence staff. It creates division and turmoil in the US which is what they wanted to do in with their efforts to undermine the confidence in the election.

Excuse me? When did Trump "approach the Russians" about hacking the DNC? The entire Mueller "investigation" is based on the fact that Hillary's money paid some Russians to make up a salacious story about "hookers peeing on a bed."

You're referring to the public comment Trump- made, right?

"Hey Russia if you're listening, please return Hillary's emails..."

How the fuck is that "approaching Russia"?

 

[JGalt]

Can you provide a valid reason why Russia would rather have a President Trump in office, as opposed to any of the socialist-leaning Democrats who will be running?

Already done...but then there's Putin's own words at the Helsinki conference and our own intel agencies

What were his "own words"?

 

[dudmuck]

Nobody has answered the question yet: How has Russia benefited from Trump being elected President? If it was so important that they "interfered", what were they expecting to gain from Trump's win?

How does russia benefit?
Sanctions lifted.
Would recognize Crimea as belonging to Russia.
Helped destabilize USA.
Trying to leave NATO.
Suspending nuclear treaty is gift to Putin.

Why does putin want Trump instead of anybody else? because Trump has a long history with russia.

Ok. So sanctions lifted on the production of Russian aluminum. From your first article:

"Trump administration officials and many Republicans who opposed the effort to keep the sanctions in place said they worried about the impact on the global aluminum industry....

...The sanctions on the company spurred demand for Chinese metal. China’s aluminum exports jumped to a record high in 2018."

Glad to see that you'd have no problem with the collapse of the global aluminum industry, and that you'd rather buy it from China.


From the second article:

"Among the provisions in the $716bn (£563bn) bill is a ban on spending Department of Defense money on “any activity that recognises the sovereignty of the Russian Federation over Crimea”, a region in Ukraine annexed by Moscow in 2014 during a period of regional political upheaval."

So is the Crimea our war to die on? John McCain and much of Congress seemed to think so. Maybe you should be happy that we didn't have to go to war over that.

From the third article:

"“From a point of view of strength… rather, he (Trump) has done what appears to be Putin’s goals. He has helped Putin destabilize the United States and interfere in the election, no matter whether it was purposeful or not,” the journalist added. He then explained that he knew from his own high-level sources that Mueller’s report would discuss this assessment..."

Dude, please. I won't even bother to address that idiocy, except to say that you leftists are the cause of all the instability we've had after the election.


And the fourth article: "Trying to leave NATO"

Did he? Nope. But those NATO countries are sure ponying up on what they owe us, aren't they? Apparently threats work.

And lastly, I don't care who does business with Russia, as Trump did in the past. Or China, or anyone else. That's what "bushiness" is meant to do, otherwise you go out of business.

Great, now you understand why Russia wants Trump and how Russia is benefiting from Trump.
But there is more: sanctions not imposed as required by law.

Required by law? Whose law? The UN? The EU?

Both of those entities can go fuck themselves.

Youre OK with chemical weapons used by another country?
Its our own law HR3409.

 

[Redfish]

We've been hearing for over the last two years how "Russian trolls/bots are trying to influence our elections with their propaganda." I also expect that we'll be hearing it more as the 2020 election grown near.

But I can't for the life of me figure out the logic behind that often-repeated phrase. Can someone please provide a valid reason why Russia would rather have a President Trump in office, as opposed to any of the socialist-leaning Democrats who will be running?

This makes absolutely no sense.

None of the Dems that will be running will suck up to Putin near as much as Trump did in Helsinki.

Seriously though, in reality they do not care who wins, with Russia it is not about a single election, it is about undermining the confidence of the nation in their entire system of transitioning power. We are not the first country they have done this to.

finally we agree on something. Russia's goal has always been to disrupt our system and create division within the USA, they are succeeding with the help of the stupid biased media and the stupid arrogant democrats.


As to collusion, there was proven collusion between the Hillary campaign and Russian interests----------the fake dossier, 145 million in Russian "contributions" to the Clinton foundation ( a shell organization to funnel money to the Clinton crime family), 450K to Bubba Clinton for a 20 minute speech in Moscow.

Why isn't Heir Mewler investigating that Russian influence into our election?

and as someone asked earlier, why would Putin prefer Trump over Clinton who he owned and could control?

 

[Lesh]

The inside story of "Russian" President Vladimir Putin’s conflict with the United States.

 

[JGalt]

Nobody has answered the question yet: How has Russia benefited from Trump being elected President? If it was so important that they "interfered", what were they expecting to gain from Trump's win?

How does russia benefit?
Sanctions lifted.
Would recognize Crimea as belonging to Russia.
Helped destabilize USA.
Trying to leave NATO.
Suspending nuclear treaty is gift to Putin.

Why does putin want Trump instead of anybody else? because Trump has a long history with russia.

Ok. So sanctions lifted on the production of Russian aluminum. From your first article:

"Trump administration officials and many Republicans who opposed the effort to keep the sanctions in place said they worried about the impact on the global aluminum industry....

...The sanctions on the company spurred demand for Chinese metal. China’s aluminum exports jumped to a record high in 2018."

Glad to see that you'd have no problem with the collapse of the global aluminum industry, and that you'd rather buy it from China.


From the second article:

"Among the provisions in the $716bn (£563bn) bill is a ban on spending Department of Defense money on “any activity that recognises the sovereignty of the Russian Federation over Crimea”, a region in Ukraine annexed by Moscow in 2014 during a period of regional political upheaval."

So is the Crimea our war to die on? John McCain and much of Congress seemed to think so. Maybe you should be happy that we didn't have to go to war over that.

From the third article:

"“From a point of view of strength… rather, he (Trump) has done what appears to be Putin’s goals. He has helped Putin destabilize the United States and interfere in the election, no matter whether it was purposeful or not,” the journalist added. He then explained that he knew from his own high-level sources that Mueller’s report would discuss this assessment..."

Dude, please. I won't even bother to address that idiocy, except to say that you leftists are the cause of all the instability we've had after the election.


And the fourth article: "Trying to leave NATO"

Did he? Nope. But those NATO countries are sure ponying up on what they owe us, aren't they? Apparently threats work.

And lastly, I don't care who does business with Russia, as Trump did in the past. Or China, or anyone else. That's what "bushiness" is meant to do, otherwise you go out of business.

Great, now you understand why Russia wants Trump and how Russia is benefiting from Trump.
But there is more: sanctions not imposed as required by law.

Required by law? Whose law? The UN? The EU?

Both of those entities can go fuck themselves.

Youre OK with chemical weapons used by another country?
Its our own law HR3409.

You don't even know what you're talking about.

"Under pressure from Congress, the Trump administration in August announced new sanctions on Russia over the use of a military-grade nerve agent in an unsuccessful assassination plot against ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal in Salisbury last March."

Trump administration tells Congress Moscow has triggered new sanctions

 

[candycorn]

We've been hearing for over the last two years how "Russian trolls/bots are trying to influence our elections with their propaganda." I also expect that we'll be hearing it more as the 2020 election grown near.

But I can't for the life of me figure out the logic behind that often-repeated phrase. Can someone please provide a valid reason why Russia would rather have a President Trump in office, as opposed to any of the socialist-leaning Democrats who will be running?

This makes absolutely no sense.

When the Trump campaign approached the Russians about hacking the DNC and Hillary’s campaign manager….they gained a bargaining chip that they are holding over the blob's head. Which is why he continues to undermine his own intelligence staff. It creates division and turmoil in the US which is what they wanted to do in with their efforts to undermine the confidence in the election.

Excuse me? When did Trump "approach the Russians" about hacking the DNC?

Via Roger Stone; who knew 6 weeks prior to the release of Podesta’s e-mails that he was going to be hacked.

The entire Mueller "investigation" is based on the fact that Hillary's money paid some Russians to make up a salacious story about "hookers peeing on a bed."

Don’t be stupid.

You're referring to the public comment Trump- made, right?

"Hey Russia if you're listening, please return Hillary's emails..."

How the fuck is that "approaching Russia"?

No. I was referring to his top advisor Stone’s tweets about Podesta’s e-mails.
I was also referring to his not trusting his own intel chiefs when they have repeatedly told him that the Russians interfered in 2016 and they are doing it again now.

 

[JGalt]

We've been hearing for over the last two years how "Russian trolls/bots are trying to influence our elections with their propaganda." I also expect that we'll be hearing it more as the 2020 election grown near.

But I can't for the life of me figure out the logic behind that often-repeated phrase. Can someone please provide a valid reason why Russia would rather have a President Trump in office, as opposed to any of the socialist-leaning Democrats who will be running?

This makes absolutely no sense.

When the Trump campaign approached the Russians about hacking the DNC and Hillary’s campaign manager….they gained a bargaining chip that they are holding over the blob's head. Which is why he continues to undermine his own intelligence staff. It creates division and turmoil in the US which is what they wanted to do in with their efforts to undermine the confidence in the election.

Excuse me? When did Trump "approach the Russians" about hacking the DNC?

Via Roger Stone; who knew 6 weeks prior to the release of Podesta’s e-mails that he was going to be hacked.

The entire Mueller "investigation" is based on the fact that Hillary's money paid some Russians to make up a salacious story about "hookers peeing on a bed."

Don’t be stupid.

You're referring to the public comment Trump- made, right?

"Hey Russia if you're listening, please return Hillary's emails..."

How the fuck is that "approaching Russia"?

No. I was referring to his top advisor Stone’s tweets about Podesta’s e-mails.
I was also referring to his not trusting his own intel chiefs when they have repeatedly told him that the Russians interfered in 2016 and they are doing it again now.

It hasn't been proven that Podesta's emails were hacked by any "Russians." Maybe the dumb bastard shouldn't have clicked on a link in one of them, activating that trojan.

 

[Lesh]

We've been hearing for over the last two years how "Russian trolls/bots are trying to influence our elections with their propaganda." I also expect that we'll be hearing it more as the 2020 election grown near.

But I can't for the life of me figure out the logic behind that often-repeated phrase. Can someone please provide a valid reason why Russia would rather have a President Trump in office, as opposed to any of the socialist-leaning Democrats who will be running?

This makes absolutely no sense.

When the Trump campaign approached the Russians about hacking the DNC and Hillary’s campaign manager….they gained a bargaining chip that they are holding over the blob's head. Which is why he continues to undermine his own intelligence staff. It creates division and turmoil in the US which is what they wanted to do in with their efforts to undermine the confidence in the election.

Excuse me? When did Trump "approach the Russians" about hacking the DNC?

Via Roger Stone; who knew 6 weeks prior to the release of Podesta’s e-mails that he was going to be hacked.

The entire Mueller "investigation" is based on the fact that Hillary's money paid some Russians to make up a salacious story about "hookers peeing on a bed."

Don’t be stupid.

You're referring to the public comment Trump- made, right?

"Hey Russia if you're listening, please return Hillary's emails..."

How the fuck is that "approaching Russia"?

No. I was referring to his top advisor Stone’s tweets about Podesta’s e-mails.
I was also referring to his not trusting his own intel chiefs when they have repeatedly told him that the Russians interfered in 2016 and they are doing it again now.

It hasn't been proven that Podesta's emails were hacked by any "Russians." Maybe the dumb bastard shouldn't have clicked on a link in one of them, activating that trojan.

Bullshit.

You;re either lying or delusional.

Podesta was hacked by Guccifer 2.0. Guccifer 2.0 was GRU...Russian military intelligence

 

[JGalt]

We've been hearing for over the last two years how "Russian trolls/bots are trying to influence our elections with their propaganda." I also expect that we'll be hearing it more as the 2020 election grown near.

But I can't for the life of me figure out the logic behind that often-repeated phrase. Can someone please provide a valid reason why Russia would rather have a President Trump in office, as opposed to any of the socialist-leaning Democrats who will be running?

This makes absolutely no sense.

When the Trump campaign approached the Russians about hacking the DNC and Hillary’s campaign manager….they gained a bargaining chip that they are holding over the blob's head. Which is why he continues to undermine his own intelligence staff. It creates division and turmoil in the US which is what they wanted to do in with their efforts to undermine the confidence in the election.

Excuse me? When did Trump "approach the Russians" about hacking the DNC?

Via Roger Stone; who knew 6 weeks prior to the release of Podesta’s e-mails that he was going to be hacked.

The entire Mueller "investigation" is based on the fact that Hillary's money paid some Russians to make up a salacious story about "hookers peeing on a bed."

Don’t be stupid.

You're referring to the public comment Trump- made, right?

"Hey Russia if you're listening, please return Hillary's emails..."

How the fuck is that "approaching Russia"?

No. I was referring to his top advisor Stone’s tweets about Podesta’s e-mails.
I was also referring to his not trusting his own intel chiefs when they have repeatedly told him that the Russians interfered in 2016 and they are doing it again now.

It hasn't been proven that Podesta's emails were hacked by any "Russians." Maybe the dumb bastard shouldn't have clicked on a link in one of them, activating that trojan.

Bullshit.

You;re either lying or delusional.

Podesta was hacked by Guccifer 2.0. Guccifer 2.0 was GRU...Russian military intelligence

If he was, consider it "opposition research." Hillary went to the Russians for the same reason.

Either way, it's all good for me. The worst thing that could have happened to this country was for Hillary to be elected President.

 

[Lesh]

How does russia benefit?
Sanctions lifted.
Would recognize Crimea as belonging to Russia.
Helped destabilize USA.
Trying to leave NATO.
Suspending nuclear treaty is gift to Putin.

Why does putin want Trump instead of anybody else? because Trump has a long history with russia.

Ok. So sanctions lifted on the production of Russian aluminum. From your first article:

"Trump administration officials and many Republicans who opposed the effort to keep the sanctions in place said they worried about the impact on the global aluminum industry....

...The sanctions on the company spurred demand for Chinese metal. China’s aluminum exports jumped to a record high in 2018."

Glad to see that you'd have no problem with the collapse of the global aluminum industry, and that you'd rather buy it from China.


From the second article:

"Among the provisions in the $716bn (£563bn) bill is a ban on spending Department of Defense money on “any activity that recognises the sovereignty of the Russian Federation over Crimea”, a region in Ukraine annexed by Moscow in 2014 during a period of regional political upheaval."

So is the Crimea our war to die on? John McCain and much of Congress seemed to think so. Maybe you should be happy that we didn't have to go to war over that.

From the third article:

"“From a point of view of strength… rather, he (Trump) has done what appears to be Putin’s goals. He has helped Putin destabilize the United States and interfere in the election, no matter whether it was purposeful or not,” the journalist added. He then explained that he knew from his own high-level sources that Mueller’s report would discuss this assessment..."

Dude, please. I won't even bother to address that idiocy, except to say that you leftists are the cause of all the instability we've had after the election.


And the fourth article: "Trying to leave NATO"

Did he? Nope. But those NATO countries are sure ponying up on what they owe us, aren't they? Apparently threats work.

And lastly, I don't care who does business with Russia, as Trump did in the past. Or China, or anyone else. That's what "bushiness" is meant to do, otherwise you go out of business.

Great, now you understand why Russia wants Trump and how Russia is benefiting from Trump.
But there is more: sanctions not imposed as required by law.

Required by law? Whose law? The UN? The EU?

Both of those entities can go fuck themselves.

Youre OK with chemical weapons used by another country?
Its our own law HR3409.

You don't even know what you're talking about.

"Under pressure from Congress, the Trump administration in August announced new sanctions on Russia over the use of a military-grade nerve agent in an unsuccessful assassination plot against ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal in Salisbury last March."

Trump administration tells Congress Moscow has triggered new sanctions

A year later and sanctions not instituted

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...sed-new-sanctions-russia-required-law-n962216