Why People Reject Christ

[irosie91]

Total bollocks

Yea ... you say that. But, I have a simple rule. There are over 400 different xtian faiths all claiming to be the one and only. I'm not going to get into that debate. That's between y'all. But if a man claims to be a follower of Jesus, claims to be following the tenants of his faith as he understand them and belongs to a xtian faith then I'm going to take him at his word and call him a xtian.

If you reject that then you have to reject the notion than anyone who commits any act, good or bad, is representative of his faith. Terrorists can't be Muslim Terrorists. Jews can't be held responsible for whatever y'all think we did. It's individuals only.

I can understand your rejection of Hitler, the man who embodies evil in the 20th Century, as a fellow religionist. But how do you rationalise the fact that millions of good xtian followers in Europe either turned a blind eye to his acts or jumped right in and helped him? There were xtians who tried to help Jews here and there but they certainly weren't in the majority. The man said early on, before he had any real power, that he wanted to rid Europe of its Jews and no one tried to stop him.

How do you get over the fact that many Jews fought with Hitler? Jews were not innocent, they had many partisan groups. Communism verses Socialism is what the war was about and land.

Same as in first century Palestine , a civil war between the zealots and the moderate jews, same as is happening in Israel today, which was tried to be set up as a secular country, to be a jewish one , you want a nationality, not a religion, like French, well the problem is most of you are German, French, American, Polish, and yet you try your best to govern every land you inhabit.

These Jewish communists were incredibly ruthless in stamping out any type of religious activity by fellow Jews. They killed rabbis, closed the yeshivos and synagogues, banned all religious practices, and enforced it by getting friends to turn in neighbors, children to turn in parents and send them to Siberia for observing the religion. It was the Yevsektsia more than anything else that destroyed the Jewish community in Russia.

http://www.jewishhistory.org/jewish-europe-between-the-wars/

Judea declared War on Germany before Hitler even entered Poland.

Jews recognize the filth that the catechism whores shove down the throats of innocent children

EEWWWUUUUUUUUUUU

That's not all the catholic church has shoved down the throats of innocent children.

Judea declared War on Germany before Hitler even entered Poland.

It looks like 'Judea' had some pretty tough soldiers ... I can see why the Nazis were so scared.

Yes many worldwide , and also in the US, Britain, its always been the Jews hate everyone, even though they had no love for their "home country" which is why so few came back from Babylon.

In fact ----MOST returned from Babylon, some did not return from Alexandria. Some also did not return
from Yemen. The filth

Judea declared War on Germany before Hitler even entered Poland.

It looks like 'Judea' had some pretty tough soldiers ... I can see why the Nazis were so scared.

Yes many worldwide , and also in the US, Britain, its always been the Jews hate everyone, even though they had no love for their "home country" which is why so few came back from Babylon.

Most of the exiles to Babylon returned but then fled as the pimps of rome and the
VESTAL (make that catechism) whores streamed in

 

[HaShev]

What was Jesus' name? Don't you have to know that to push your proselytizing junk?

You seem to be a very bitter, angry man.

How is using a come off bitter.
Dpnct you mean you conceptualize the bitterness by deciding you want to read it that way or because it's you reading "unpopular truth" that rubs you the wrong way? Hurt ego perhaps?

What truth are you referring to? All I've seen is your opinion. I'll trust Gods word over your opinion any day.

Gotcha again, you got caught calling those scripture verses opinions. =Busted.

Ok take God's word all those verses on idols, but how about this one;
Dan 10:21

Idols
They are liars--Jeremiah 50:36.
Are mad (lost their reason)
upon their idols--Jeremiah 50:38.
Believes they are gods--Isaiah 47:8, 10
Breaks bones of God's people--Jeremiah 50:17
Builds great image of man
for all to worship--Daniel 3:1-7.
Make Metal idols Leviticus 19:4,
1 Kings 14:9, Isaiah 48:5
Makes a graven image that they be their own witness to: Isiah44;9
Carpenter creates a wood idol: Isaiah44;13
And the residue thereof he maketh a god-Even his graven image that ;He falleth down unto it and worshippeth it. and prayeth unto it and saith Deliver me; for this art my GOD- Isiah44;17
Casts out God's people--Jeremiah 51:34
Causes God's people to be slain--Jeremiah 51:49
Completely removes all precious vessels --2 Kings 25:13-17
Connected with hell--Isaiah 14:9
Pierced dragon-Isaiah
Pierced morning star Isaiah 14:12-19
Crushes God's people-Jeremiah 51:34 Cuts down people as trees-Isaiah 14:8
Defiles sacred vessels and precious things of God's design--Daniel 5:2-4.Destroys all the earth--Jeremiah 51:25. Destroys God's heritage--Jeremiah 50:11.Devours God's people--Jeremiah 51:34.
Does evil among God's people--Jeremiah 51:24.Does not consider her possible destruction (does not lay these things to heart)--Isaiah 47:7. Does not glorify God--Daniel 5:23. Does not remember warnings given about her destruction--Isaiah 47:7.
Dwells upon many waters--Jeremiah 51:13.Employs reapers to harvest fields (sown with seeds of falsehood)--Jeremiah 50:16.Employs sowers (to spread seeds of falsehood)--Jeremiah 50:16.Fears not the Lord--2 Kings 17:25.
Full of falsehoods--Jeremiah 51:17.Full of pomp--Isaiah 14:11.Full of unclean birds--Jeremiah 50:39.Full of wild beasts--Jeremiah 50:39.Full of vanity--Jeremiah 51:18.Gentiles have not yet seen the face of G0d- Isaiah 66:19
Her men are brutish in their own knowledge--Jeremiah 51:17. Her mighty men are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57. Her princes are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57.Her rulers are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57.Her waves (ministers--those raised up above the level of the sea or people) do roar--Jeremiah 51:55.Her wise men are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57.Highest leader becomes angry when his will is disregarded for God's will--Daniel 3:19..Highest leader makes hasty decisions--Daniel 2:15..Holds God's people captive--Jeremiah 50:33.
Her cry (glory) is found in ships(Romes army was called ships)-Isaiah 43:14.
Oppresses--Isaiah 14:4; Jeremiah 50:16, 33.Persecutes by fire all who do not bow and worship image of man--Daniel 3:6.Places relatives in high positions of leadership (nepotism)--2 Kings 24:17.Practices abundant enchantments--Isaiah 47:8, 12.Practices divination--Ezekiel 21:21.Practices sorcery--Isaiah 47:9, 12.
Practice divination, soothsayer, augur sorcerer, 11 charmer, medium, wizard, necromancer- Deut 18:10
Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree" also read Deuteronomy 21:22
they that be cursed of Him shall be cut off-(Psalm 37:22)
Gave praise and glory to another G0d and created an idol for this other -"Isaiah 42:8 we can't pray to any image of anything physical- Exodus 20:3-7 and Deuteronomy 5:8-10
God is not a man nor form-(Isaiah 2:22, 14:13, I Samuel 15:29, Numbers 23:19, and Hosea 11:9, Deuteronomy 4:11-12 and the 13 major principles of the Jewish faith based on the Rambam's teaching of "ain lo demus haguf ve'ayno guf" -- that Hashem has no physical form.)
They profane the name of G0d- Deut. 12:3
Given to pleasure--Isaiah 47:8.
lo ish el vichazev u-vein-adam v'yitnecham
Meaning: God is not a man, nor will he lie, nor is he mortal, nor will he relent.(Jesus was a mere man who lied and who relented).- Numbers 23:19A day in store for all the proud and lofty, for all that is exalted (and they will be humbled)," (Isaiah 2:12).
They will be shameless and arrogant, (Midrash Rabbah on Song of Songs 2:29 )
truthfulness will all but disappear. (Mishnah Sota 9:15)
Nations assemble,and peoples plot vain things;kings of the earth take their stand,and regents intrigue togetheragainst the LORD and against His anointed- Psalms 2
your own sword hath devoured your prophets, like a destroying lion.” Jeremiah 2:30
Ruining spiritual & intellectual nourishment by mucking it up to cover up from others consumption- Ezekiel 34:18
GOD ABHORS (hates for the simple) DECEITFUL men-(Psalm 5:6)
boast, of mischief done against the godly? All the day 2 you are plotting destruction. Your tongue is like a sharp razor, you worker of treachery. 3 You love evil more than good, and lying more than speaking the truth. -Psalm 52:1 -3
These false prophets who do not speak for G-d. -Ezekiel CH 13, Deut 18:20-22, Isa. 30:10, Jer. 5:30-31, 14:14, 23:16, 26, 31-32
vanity unto thee, whiles “they divine a lie unto thee”, to bring thee upon the necks of [them that are] slain, of the wicked, whose day is come, when their iniquity [shall have] an end.-Ezekiel 21:29

Fact; you reject the ACTUAL BIBLICAL MOSHIACH because you follow the forbidden imposter.
That's still on topic

Boy, there was some serious peyote or something in your past.

a) The Bible refers to only one Messiah the first go-'round

b) Where you're talking about the Anti-Christ, that refers to the second coming, after Christ is resurrected and

ascends into heaven, which the Bible says already happened.

Are you some kind of hallicinogen-fueled Luciferian or something?

1) ad hominems are not acceptable refutations.
2) this is false when you stated:
The Bible refers to only one Messiah the first go-'round.
Go research: Moshiach ben Joseph & Moshiach ben David=2 messiahs.
Remember there is 2 guardians on the
ark of the covenant = 2 top messengers
Lucifer who comes first and Michael the remover/overturner.
The word Shiloh (one who's right it is) means someone came first to imposter and steal that right, which is even what Christianity teaches however they confuse sequences.
3)which brings us to mistake number 3 the story of the son of perdition Ezekiel 28:14-15 called
Anointed(christ) Cherub(Guardian in Hebrew=Nazarene) an image of a man deemed perfect(sinless) is an OT warning of the false first fallen to the pit messiah (Jesus fell to hades Acts 2:27, 1 Peter 3:19 and Apostles Creed. Perdition means to fall to the pit, Jesus is the son who fell by the hands of Rome (called Seas)
Read ALL OF Ezekiel 28.
Jesus is LUCIFER they exclaimed it in
Rev 22:16.
So you can't use Prexisting text that claims the first (Jesus) is Lucifer to claim additional text says Lucifer returns o claim the Moshich is the first fallen. 2 can't be 1, once again proving my point on sequences.
IQ tests, & SAT tests all have sequences in the exams, clearly this stumps Christians who don't comprehend time lines or sequences of events nor proper tenses on past, present, future. It's what you get when you get your info and teachings from backwoods preachers that sound like
Ernest P. Worell.

 

[Penelope]

Total bollocks

Yea ... you say that. But, I have a simple rule. There are over 400 different xtian faiths all claiming to be the one and only. I'm not going to get into that debate. That's between y'all. But if a man claims to be a follower of Jesus, claims to be following the tenants of his faith as he understand them and belongs to a xtian faith then I'm going to take him at his word and call him a xtian.

If you reject that then you have to reject the notion than anyone who commits any act, good or bad, is representative of his faith. Terrorists can't be Muslim Terrorists. Jews can't be held responsible for whatever y'all think we did. It's individuals only.

I can understand your rejection of Hitler, the man who embodies evil in the 20th Century, as a fellow religionist. But how do you rationalise the fact that millions of good xtian followers in Europe either turned a blind eye to his acts or jumped right in and helped him? There were xtians who tried to help Jews here and there but they certainly weren't in the majority. The man said early on, before he had any real power, that he wanted to rid Europe of its Jews and no one tried to stop him.

How do you get over the fact that many Jews fought with Hitler? Jews were not innocent, they had many partisan groups. Communism verses Socialism is what the war was about and land.

Same as in first century Palestine , a civil war between the zealots and the moderate jews, same as is happening in Israel today, which was tried to be set up as a secular country, to be a jewish one , you want a nationality, not a religion, like French, well the problem is most of you are German, French, American, Polish, and yet you try your best to govern every land you inhabit.

These Jewish communists were incredibly ruthless in stamping out any type of religious activity by fellow Jews. They killed rabbis, closed the yeshivos and synagogues, banned all religious practices, and enforced it by getting friends to turn in neighbors, children to turn in parents and send them to Siberia for observing the religion. It was the Yevsektsia more than anything else that destroyed the Jewish community in Russia.

http://www.jewishhistory.org/jewish-europe-between-the-wars/

Judea declared War on Germany before Hitler even entered Poland.

Jews recognize the filth that the catechism whores shove down the throats of innocent children

EEWWWUUUUUUUUUUU

That's not all the catholic church has shoved down the throats of innocent children.

Judea declared War on Germany before Hitler even entered Poland.

It looks like 'Judea' had some pretty tough soldiers ... I can see why the Nazis were so scared.

Yes many worldwide , and also in the US, Britain, its always been the Jews hate everyone, even though they had no love for their "home country" which is why so few came back from Babylon.

In fact ----MOST returned from Babylon, some did not return from Alexandria. Some also did not return
from Yemen. The filth

Judea declared War on Germany before Hitler even entered Poland.

It looks like 'Judea' had some pretty tough soldiers ... I can see why the Nazis were so scared.

Yes many worldwide , and also in the US, Britain, its always been the Jews hate everyone, even though they had no love for their "home country" which is why so few came back from Babylon.

Most of the exiles to Babylon returned but then fled as the pimps of rome and the
VESTAL (make that catechism) whores streamed in

This is when King Cyrus freed them. Ha Ha. You have not even read the OT.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Judea declared War on Germany before Hitler even entered Poland.

It looks like 'Judea' had some pretty tough soldiers ... I can see why the Nazis were so scared.

"The Israeli people around the world declare economic and financial war against Germany.

Fourteen million Jews stand together as one man, to declare war against Germany. The Jewish

wholesaler will forsake his firm, the banker his stock exchange, the merchant his commerce and

the pauper his pitiful shed in order to join together in a holy war against Hitler's people." - Daily

Express, March 24, 1933.


"Each of you, Jew and Gentile alike, who has not already enlisted in this sacred war should do so

now and here. It is not sufficient that you should buy no goods made in Germany. You must

refuse to deal with any merchant or shopkeeper who sells any German-made goods or who

patronises German ships or shipping.... we will undermine the Hitler regime and bring the

German people to their senses by destroying their export trade on which their very existence

depends." - Samuel Undermeyer, in a Radio Broadcast on WABC, New York, August 6, 1933.

Reported in the New York Times, August 7, 1933

Full text of "Jews Declare War on Germany 1933"

How much longer did that guy live after that?

Very interesting, New York Times, aye? Very interesting indeed.

Nm, it was 7 years more, albeit he was already old in 1933.

Yeah, he called for financial war when the Nazis had something just a bit more physical in mind.

Meanwhile, Prescott Bush was bankrolling the Nazis.

 

[Marion Morrison]

You seem to be a very bitter, angry man.

How is using a come off bitter.
Dpnct you mean you conceptualize the bitterness by deciding you want to read it that way or because it's you reading "unpopular truth" that rubs you the wrong way? Hurt ego perhaps?

What truth are you referring to? All I've seen is your opinion. I'll trust Gods word over your opinion any day.

Gotcha again, you got caught calling those scripture verses opinions. =Busted.

Ok take God's word all those verses on idols, but how about this one;
Dan 10:21

Idols
They are liars--Jeremiah 50:36.
Are mad (lost their reason)
upon their idols--Jeremiah 50:38.
Believes they are gods--Isaiah 47:8, 10
Breaks bones of God's people--Jeremiah 50:17
Builds great image of man
for all to worship--Daniel 3:1-7.
Make Metal idols Leviticus 19:4,
1 Kings 14:9, Isaiah 48:5
Makes a graven image that they be their own witness to: Isiah44;9
Carpenter creates a wood idol: Isaiah44;13
And the residue thereof he maketh a god-Even his graven image that ;He falleth down unto it and worshippeth it. and prayeth unto it and saith Deliver me; for this art my GOD- Isiah44;17
Casts out God's people--Jeremiah 51:34
Causes God's people to be slain--Jeremiah 51:49
Completely removes all precious vessels --2 Kings 25:13-17
Connected with hell--Isaiah 14:9
Pierced dragon-Isaiah
Pierced morning star Isaiah 14:12-19
Crushes God's people-Jeremiah 51:34 Cuts down people as trees-Isaiah 14:8
Defiles sacred vessels and precious things of God's design--Daniel 5:2-4.Destroys all the earth--Jeremiah 51:25. Destroys God's heritage--Jeremiah 50:11.Devours God's people--Jeremiah 51:34.
Does evil among God's people--Jeremiah 51:24.Does not consider her possible destruction (does not lay these things to heart)--Isaiah 47:7. Does not glorify God--Daniel 5:23. Does not remember warnings given about her destruction--Isaiah 47:7.
Dwells upon many waters--Jeremiah 51:13.Employs reapers to harvest fields (sown with seeds of falsehood)--Jeremiah 50:16.Employs sowers (to spread seeds of falsehood)--Jeremiah 50:16.Fears not the Lord--2 Kings 17:25.
Full of falsehoods--Jeremiah 51:17.Full of pomp--Isaiah 14:11.Full of unclean birds--Jeremiah 50:39.Full of wild beasts--Jeremiah 50:39.Full of vanity--Jeremiah 51:18.Gentiles have not yet seen the face of G0d- Isaiah 66:19
Her men are brutish in their own knowledge--Jeremiah 51:17. Her mighty men are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57. Her princes are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57.Her rulers are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57.Her waves (ministers--those raised up above the level of the sea or people) do roar--Jeremiah 51:55.Her wise men are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57.Highest leader becomes angry when his will is disregarded for God's will--Daniel 3:19..Highest leader makes hasty decisions--Daniel 2:15..Holds God's people captive--Jeremiah 50:33.
Her cry (glory) is found in ships(Romes army was called ships)-Isaiah 43:14.
Oppresses--Isaiah 14:4; Jeremiah 50:16, 33.Persecutes by fire all who do not bow and worship image of man--Daniel 3:6.Places relatives in high positions of leadership (nepotism)--2 Kings 24:17.Practices abundant enchantments--Isaiah 47:8, 12.Practices divination--Ezekiel 21:21.Practices sorcery--Isaiah 47:9, 12.
Practice divination, soothsayer, augur sorcerer, 11 charmer, medium, wizard, necromancer- Deut 18:10
Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree" also read Deuteronomy 21:22
they that be cursed of Him shall be cut off-(Psalm 37:22)
Gave praise and glory to another G0d and created an idol for this other -"Isaiah 42:8 we can't pray to any image of anything physical- Exodus 20:3-7 and Deuteronomy 5:8-10
God is not a man nor form-(Isaiah 2:22, 14:13, I Samuel 15:29, Numbers 23:19, and Hosea 11:9, Deuteronomy 4:11-12 and the 13 major principles of the Jewish faith based on the Rambam's teaching of "ain lo demus haguf ve'ayno guf" -- that Hashem has no physical form.)
They profane the name of G0d- Deut. 12:3
Given to pleasure--Isaiah 47:8.
lo ish el vichazev u-vein-adam v'yitnecham
Meaning: God is not a man, nor will he lie, nor is he mortal, nor will he relent.(Jesus was a mere man who lied and who relented).- Numbers 23:19A day in store for all the proud and lofty, for all that is exalted (and they will be humbled)," (Isaiah 2:12).
They will be shameless and arrogant, (Midrash Rabbah on Song of Songs 2:29 )
truthfulness will all but disappear. (Mishnah Sota 9:15)
Nations assemble,and peoples plot vain things;kings of the earth take their stand,and regents intrigue togetheragainst the LORD and against His anointed- Psalms 2
your own sword hath devoured your prophets, like a destroying lion.” Jeremiah 2:30
Ruining spiritual & intellectual nourishment by mucking it up to cover up from others consumption- Ezekiel 34:18
GOD ABHORS (hates for the simple) DECEITFUL men-(Psalm 5:6)
boast, of mischief done against the godly? All the day 2 you are plotting destruction. Your tongue is like a sharp razor, you worker of treachery. 3 You love evil more than good, and lying more than speaking the truth. -Psalm 52:1 -3
These false prophets who do not speak for G-d. -Ezekiel CH 13, Deut 18:20-22, Isa. 30:10, Jer. 5:30-31, 14:14, 23:16, 26, 31-32
vanity unto thee, whiles “they divine a lie unto thee”, to bring thee upon the necks of [them that are] slain, of the wicked, whose day is come, when their iniquity [shall have] an end.-Ezekiel 21:29

Fact; you reject the ACTUAL BIBLICAL MOSHIACH because you follow the forbidden imposter.
That's still on topic

Boy, there was some serious peyote or something in your past.

a) The Bible refers to only one Messiah the first go-'round

b) Where you're talking about the Anti-Christ, that refers to the second coming, after Christ is resurrected and

ascends into heaven, which the Bible says already happened.

Are you some kind of hallicinogen-fueled Luciferian or something?

1) ad hominems are not acceptable refutations.
2) this is false when you stated:
The Bible refers to only one Messiah the first go-'round.
Go research: Moshiach ben Joseph & Moshiach ben David=2 messiahs.
Remember there is 2 guardians on the
ark of the covenant = 2 top messengers
Lucifer who comes first and Michael the remover/overturner.
The word Shiloh (one who's right it is) means someone came first to imposter and steal that right, which is even what Christianity teaches however they confuse sequences.
3)which brings us to mistake number 3 the story of the son of perdition Ezekiel 28:14-15 called
Anointed(christ) Cherub(Guardian in Hebrew=Nazarene) an image of a man deemed perfect(sinless) is an OT warning of the false first fallen to the pit messiah (Jesus fell to hades Acts 2:27, 1 Peter 3:19 and Apostles Creed. Perdition means to fall to the pit, Jesus is the son who fell by the hands of Rome (called Seas)
Read ALL OF Ezekiel 28.
Jesus is LUCIFER they exclaimed it in
Rev 22:16.
So you can't use Prexisting text that claims the first (Jesus) is Lucifer to claim additional text says Lucifer returns o claim the Moshich is the first fallen. 2 can't be 1, once again proving my point on sequences.
IQ tests, & SAT tests all have sequences in the exams, clearly this stumps Christians who don't comprehend time lines or sequences of events nor proper tenses on past, present, future. It's what you get when you get your info and teachings from backwoods preachers that sound like
Ernest P. Worell.

Drugs have scrambled your brain.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Go away, adults are talking.

suffer unto you the little children for theirs is the Kingdom of God

.....those would be little children probably below the age of three when the foreign installation was not yet installed by the flying shadow gear heads...........

Yeah, that's off.. no surprise considering the source.

 

[Penelope]

Judea declared War on Germany before Hitler even entered Poland.

It looks like 'Judea' had some pretty tough soldiers ... I can see why the Nazis were so scared.

"The Israeli people around the world declare economic and financial war against Germany.

Fourteen million Jews stand together as one man, to declare war against Germany. The Jewish

wholesaler will forsake his firm, the banker his stock exchange, the merchant his commerce and

the pauper his pitiful shed in order to join together in a holy war against Hitler's people." - Daily

Express, March 24, 1933.


"Each of you, Jew and Gentile alike, who has not already enlisted in this sacred war should do so

now and here. It is not sufficient that you should buy no goods made in Germany. You must

refuse to deal with any merchant or shopkeeper who sells any German-made goods or who

patronises German ships or shipping.... we will undermine the Hitler regime and bring the

German people to their senses by destroying their export trade on which their very existence

depends." - Samuel Undermeyer, in a Radio Broadcast on WABC, New York, August 6, 1933.

Reported in the New York Times, August 7, 1933

Full text of "Jews Declare War on Germany 1933"

How much longer did that guy live after that?

Very interesting, New York Times, aye? Very interesting indeed.

Nm, it was 7 years more, albeit he was already old in 1933.

Yeah, he called for financial war when the Nazis had something just a bit more physical in mind.

Meanwhile, Prescott Bush was bankrolling the Nazis.

What is interesting is this article:
http://www.yadvashem.org/odot_pdf/Microsoft Word - 3231.pdf

Seems the boycott started in Poland, religious wealthy jews, the German Jews , more assimilated, didn't want anything to do with it and they didn't want to go to Palestine. The maj of jews lived in Poland , slightly less than in NY, and it was hurting the Polish Jews exports along with the depression of 1929, but the Zionist in Israel did not want the boycott, as they were for the Transfer Agreement. The funny part was Germany was willing to do the transfer agreement due to the boycott , and then Poland also had a Clearing Agreement with Palestine.

In the end the transfer agreement won.

 

[HaShev]

How is using a come off bitter.
Dpnct you mean you conceptualize the bitterness by deciding you want to read it that way or because it's you reading "unpopular truth" that rubs you the wrong way? Hurt ego perhaps?

What truth are you referring to? All I've seen is your opinion. I'll trust Gods word over your opinion any day.

Gotcha again, you got caught calling those scripture verses opinions. =Busted.

Ok take God's word all those verses on idols, but how about this one;
Dan 10:21

Idols
They are liars--Jeremiah 50:36.
Are mad (lost their reason)
upon their idols--Jeremiah 50:38.
Believes they are gods--Isaiah 47:8, 10
Breaks bones of God's people--Jeremiah 50:17
Builds great image of man
for all to worship--Daniel 3:1-7.
Make Metal idols Leviticus 19:4,
1 Kings 14:9, Isaiah 48:5
Makes a graven image that they be their own witness to: Isiah44;9
Carpenter creates a wood idol: Isaiah44;13
And the residue thereof he maketh a god-Even his graven image that ;He falleth down unto it and worshippeth it. and prayeth unto it and saith Deliver me; for this art my GOD- Isiah44;17
Casts out God's people--Jeremiah 51:34
Causes God's people to be slain--Jeremiah 51:49
Completely removes all precious vessels --2 Kings 25:13-17
Connected with hell--Isaiah 14:9
Pierced dragon-Isaiah
Pierced morning star Isaiah 14:12-19
Crushes God's people-Jeremiah 51:34 Cuts down people as trees-Isaiah 14:8
Defiles sacred vessels and precious things of God's design--Daniel 5:2-4.Destroys all the earth--Jeremiah 51:25. Destroys God's heritage--Jeremiah 50:11.Devours God's people--Jeremiah 51:34.
Does evil among God's people--Jeremiah 51:24.Does not consider her possible destruction (does not lay these things to heart)--Isaiah 47:7. Does not glorify God--Daniel 5:23. Does not remember warnings given about her destruction--Isaiah 47:7.
Dwells upon many waters--Jeremiah 51:13.Employs reapers to harvest fields (sown with seeds of falsehood)--Jeremiah 50:16.Employs sowers (to spread seeds of falsehood)--Jeremiah 50:16.Fears not the Lord--2 Kings 17:25.
Full of falsehoods--Jeremiah 51:17.Full of pomp--Isaiah 14:11.Full of unclean birds--Jeremiah 50:39.Full of wild beasts--Jeremiah 50:39.Full of vanity--Jeremiah 51:18.Gentiles have not yet seen the face of G0d- Isaiah 66:19
Her men are brutish in their own knowledge--Jeremiah 51:17. Her mighty men are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57. Her princes are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57.Her rulers are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57.Her waves (ministers--those raised up above the level of the sea or people) do roar--Jeremiah 51:55.Her wise men are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57.Highest leader becomes angry when his will is disregarded for God's will--Daniel 3:19..Highest leader makes hasty decisions--Daniel 2:15..Holds God's people captive--Jeremiah 50:33.
Her cry (glory) is found in ships(Romes army was called ships)-Isaiah 43:14.
Oppresses--Isaiah 14:4; Jeremiah 50:16, 33.Persecutes by fire all who do not bow and worship image of man--Daniel 3:6.Places relatives in high positions of leadership (nepotism)--2 Kings 24:17.Practices abundant enchantments--Isaiah 47:8, 12.Practices divination--Ezekiel 21:21.Practices sorcery--Isaiah 47:9, 12.
Practice divination, soothsayer, augur sorcerer, 11 charmer, medium, wizard, necromancer- Deut 18:10
Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree" also read Deuteronomy 21:22
they that be cursed of Him shall be cut off-(Psalm 37:22)
Gave praise and glory to another G0d and created an idol for this other -"Isaiah 42:8 we can't pray to any image of anything physical- Exodus 20:3-7 and Deuteronomy 5:8-10
God is not a man nor form-(Isaiah 2:22, 14:13, I Samuel 15:29, Numbers 23:19, and Hosea 11:9, Deuteronomy 4:11-12 and the 13 major principles of the Jewish faith based on the Rambam's teaching of "ain lo demus haguf ve'ayno guf" -- that Hashem has no physical form.)
They profane the name of G0d- Deut. 12:3
Given to pleasure--Isaiah 47:8.
lo ish el vichazev u-vein-adam v'yitnecham
Meaning: God is not a man, nor will he lie, nor is he mortal, nor will he relent.(Jesus was a mere man who lied and who relented).- Numbers 23:19A day in store for all the proud and lofty, for all that is exalted (and they will be humbled)," (Isaiah 2:12).
They will be shameless and arrogant, (Midrash Rabbah on Song of Songs 2:29 )
truthfulness will all but disappear. (Mishnah Sota 9:15)
Nations assemble,and peoples plot vain things;kings of the earth take their stand,and regents intrigue togetheragainst the LORD and against His anointed- Psalms 2
your own sword hath devoured your prophets, like a destroying lion.” Jeremiah 2:30
Ruining spiritual & intellectual nourishment by mucking it up to cover up from others consumption- Ezekiel 34:18
GOD ABHORS (hates for the simple) DECEITFUL men-(Psalm 5:6)
boast, of mischief done against the godly? All the day 2 you are plotting destruction. Your tongue is like a sharp razor, you worker of treachery. 3 You love evil more than good, and lying more than speaking the truth. -Psalm 52:1 -3
These false prophets who do not speak for G-d. -Ezekiel CH 13, Deut 18:20-22, Isa. 30:10, Jer. 5:30-31, 14:14, 23:16, 26, 31-32
vanity unto thee, whiles “they divine a lie unto thee”, to bring thee upon the necks of [them that are] slain, of the wicked, whose day is come, when their iniquity [shall have] an end.-Ezekiel 21:29

Fact; you reject the ACTUAL BIBLICAL MOSHIACH because you follow the forbidden imposter.
That's still on topic

Boy, there was some serious peyote or something in your past.

a) The Bible refers to only one Messiah the first go-'round

b) Where you're talking about the Anti-Christ, that refers to the second coming, after Christ is resurrected and

ascends into heaven, which the Bible says already happened.

Are you some kind of hallicinogen-fueled Luciferian or something?

1) ad hominems are not acceptable refutations.
2) this is false when you stated:
The Bible refers to only one Messiah the first go-'round.
Go research: Moshiach ben Joseph & Moshiach ben David=2 messiahs.
Remember there is 2 guardians on the
ark of the covenant = 2 top messengers
Lucifer who comes first and Michael the remover/overturner.
The word Shiloh (one who's right it is) means someone came first to imposter and steal that right, which is even what Christianity teaches however they confuse sequences.
3)which brings us to mistake number 3 the story of the son of perdition Ezekiel 28:14-15 called
Anointed(christ) Cherub(Guardian in Hebrew=Nazarene) an image of a man deemed perfect(sinless) is an OT warning of the false first fallen to the pit messiah (Jesus fell to hades Acts 2:27, 1 Peter 3:19 and Apostles Creed. Perdition means to fall to the pit, Jesus is the son who fell by the hands of Rome (called Seas)
Read ALL OF Ezekiel 28.
Jesus is LUCIFER they exclaimed it in
Rev 22:16.
So you can't use Prexisting text that claims the first (Jesus) is Lucifer to claim additional text says Lucifer returns o claim the Moshich is the first fallen. 2 can't be 1, once again proving my point on sequences.
IQ tests, & SAT tests all have sequences in the exams, clearly this stumps Christians who don't comprehend time lines or sequences of events nor proper tenses on past, present, future. It's what you get when you get your info and teachings from backwoods preachers that sound like
Ernest P. Worell.

Drugs have scrambled your brain.

See you bashed your own text and logic.
You are demonizing your stumbling block so as to not address it or make it valid, perhaps a mechanism to ease your mind.
This deflection technique is the same way you see Dems do that demonization to your party affiliates.

Jesus must have scrambled his brain to admit being Lucifer.

Dictionary:
[See Lucifer here etymology of "": "[ the morning star, a fallen rebel archangel, THE Devil, fr. OE. fr. Latin, the morning star, fr. Lucifer light-bearing, fr. luc light + -fer -ferous--more at LIGHT]" (Webster's, p.677)

Rev 22:16 "I Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star(Lucifer).”

Morning Star was Baal's son in mythology.
The nemesis of Shalem (Evening Star).

 

[Marion Morrison]

What truth are you referring to? All I've seen is your opinion. I'll trust Gods word over your opinion any day.

Gotcha again, you got caught calling those scripture verses opinions. =Busted.

Ok take God's word all those verses on idols, but how about this one;
Dan 10:21

Idols
They are liars--Jeremiah 50:36.
Are mad (lost their reason)
upon their idols--Jeremiah 50:38.
Believes they are gods--Isaiah 47:8, 10
Breaks bones of God's people--Jeremiah 50:17
Builds great image of man
for all to worship--Daniel 3:1-7.
Make Metal idols Leviticus 19:4,
1 Kings 14:9, Isaiah 48:5
Makes a graven image that they be their own witness to: Isiah44;9
Carpenter creates a wood idol: Isaiah44;13
And the residue thereof he maketh a god-Even his graven image that ;He falleth down unto it and worshippeth it. and prayeth unto it and saith Deliver me; for this art my GOD- Isiah44;17
Casts out God's people--Jeremiah 51:34
Causes God's people to be slain--Jeremiah 51:49
Completely removes all precious vessels --2 Kings 25:13-17
Connected with hell--Isaiah 14:9
Pierced dragon-Isaiah
Pierced morning star Isaiah 14:12-19
Crushes God's people-Jeremiah 51:34 Cuts down people as trees-Isaiah 14:8
Defiles sacred vessels and precious things of God's design--Daniel 5:2-4.Destroys all the earth--Jeremiah 51:25. Destroys God's heritage--Jeremiah 50:11.Devours God's people--Jeremiah 51:34.
Does evil among God's people--Jeremiah 51:24.Does not consider her possible destruction (does not lay these things to heart)--Isaiah 47:7. Does not glorify God--Daniel 5:23. Does not remember warnings given about her destruction--Isaiah 47:7.
Dwells upon many waters--Jeremiah 51:13.Employs reapers to harvest fields (sown with seeds of falsehood)--Jeremiah 50:16.Employs sowers (to spread seeds of falsehood)--Jeremiah 50:16.Fears not the Lord--2 Kings 17:25.
Full of falsehoods--Jeremiah 51:17.Full of pomp--Isaiah 14:11.Full of unclean birds--Jeremiah 50:39.Full of wild beasts--Jeremiah 50:39.Full of vanity--Jeremiah 51:18.Gentiles have not yet seen the face of G0d- Isaiah 66:19
Her men are brutish in their own knowledge--Jeremiah 51:17. Her mighty men are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57. Her princes are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57.Her rulers are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57.Her waves (ministers--those raised up above the level of the sea or people) do roar--Jeremiah 51:55.Her wise men are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57.Highest leader becomes angry when his will is disregarded for God's will--Daniel 3:19..Highest leader makes hasty decisions--Daniel 2:15..Holds God's people captive--Jeremiah 50:33.
Her cry (glory) is found in ships(Romes army was called ships)-Isaiah 43:14.
Oppresses--Isaiah 14:4; Jeremiah 50:16, 33.Persecutes by fire all who do not bow and worship image of man--Daniel 3:6.Places relatives in high positions of leadership (nepotism)--2 Kings 24:17.Practices abundant enchantments--Isaiah 47:8, 12.Practices divination--Ezekiel 21:21.Practices sorcery--Isaiah 47:9, 12.
Practice divination, soothsayer, augur sorcerer, 11 charmer, medium, wizard, necromancer- Deut 18:10
Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree" also read Deuteronomy 21:22
they that be cursed of Him shall be cut off-(Psalm 37:22)
Gave praise and glory to another G0d and created an idol for this other -"Isaiah 42:8 we can't pray to any image of anything physical- Exodus 20:3-7 and Deuteronomy 5:8-10
God is not a man nor form-(Isaiah 2:22, 14:13, I Samuel 15:29, Numbers 23:19, and Hosea 11:9, Deuteronomy 4:11-12 and the 13 major principles of the Jewish faith based on the Rambam's teaching of "ain lo demus haguf ve'ayno guf" -- that Hashem has no physical form.)
They profane the name of G0d- Deut. 12:3
Given to pleasure--Isaiah 47:8.
lo ish el vichazev u-vein-adam v'yitnecham
Meaning: God is not a man, nor will he lie, nor is he mortal, nor will he relent.(Jesus was a mere man who lied and who relented).- Numbers 23:19A day in store for all the proud and lofty, for all that is exalted (and they will be humbled)," (Isaiah 2:12).
They will be shameless and arrogant, (Midrash Rabbah on Song of Songs 2:29 )
truthfulness will all but disappear. (Mishnah Sota 9:15)
Nations assemble,and peoples plot vain things;kings of the earth take their stand,and regents intrigue togetheragainst the LORD and against His anointed- Psalms 2
your own sword hath devoured your prophets, like a destroying lion.” Jeremiah 2:30
Ruining spiritual & intellectual nourishment by mucking it up to cover up from others consumption- Ezekiel 34:18
GOD ABHORS (hates for the simple) DECEITFUL men-(Psalm 5:6)
boast, of mischief done against the godly? All the day 2 you are plotting destruction. Your tongue is like a sharp razor, you worker of treachery. 3 You love evil more than good, and lying more than speaking the truth. -Psalm 52:1 -3
These false prophets who do not speak for G-d. -Ezekiel CH 13, Deut 18:20-22, Isa. 30:10, Jer. 5:30-31, 14:14, 23:16, 26, 31-32
vanity unto thee, whiles “they divine a lie unto thee”, to bring thee upon the necks of [them that are] slain, of the wicked, whose day is come, when their iniquity [shall have] an end.-Ezekiel 21:29

Fact; you reject the ACTUAL BIBLICAL MOSHIACH because you follow the forbidden imposter.
That's still on topic

Boy, there was some serious peyote or something in your past.

a) The Bible refers to only one Messiah the first go-'round

b) Where you're talking about the Anti-Christ, that refers to the second coming, after Christ is resurrected and

ascends into heaven, which the Bible says already happened.

Are you some kind of hallicinogen-fueled Luciferian or something?

1) ad hominems are not acceptable refutations.
2) this is false when you stated:
The Bible refers to only one Messiah the first go-'round.
Go research: Moshiach ben Joseph & Moshiach ben David=2 messiahs.
Remember there is 2 guardians on the
ark of the covenant = 2 top messengers
Lucifer who comes first and Michael the remover/overturner.
The word Shiloh (one who's right it is) means someone came first to imposter and steal that right, which is even what Christianity teaches however they confuse sequences.
3)which brings us to mistake number 3 the story of the son of perdition Ezekiel 28:14-15 called
Anointed(christ) Cherub(Guardian in Hebrew=Nazarene) an image of a man deemed perfect(sinless) is an OT warning of the false first fallen to the pit messiah (Jesus fell to hades Acts 2:27, 1 Peter 3:19 and Apostles Creed. Perdition means to fall to the pit, Jesus is the son who fell by the hands of Rome (called Seas)
Read ALL OF Ezekiel 28.
Jesus is LUCIFER they exclaimed it in
Rev 22:16.
So you can't use Prexisting text that claims the first (Jesus) is Lucifer to claim additional text says Lucifer returns o claim the Moshich is the first fallen. 2 can't be 1, once again proving my point on sequences.
IQ tests, & SAT tests all have sequences in the exams, clearly this stumps Christians who don't comprehend time lines or sequences of events nor proper tenses on past, present, future. It's what you get when you get your info and teachings from backwoods preachers that sound like
Ernest P. Worell.

Drugs have scrambled your brain.

See you bashed your own text and logic.
You are demonizing your stumbling block so as to not address it or make it valid, perhaps a mechanism to ease your mind.
This deflection technique is the same way you see Dems do that demonization to your party affiliates.

Jesus must have scrambled his brain to admit being Lucifer.

Dictionary:
[See Lucifer here etymology of "": "[ the morning star, a fallen rebel archangel, THE Devil, fr. OE. fr. Latin, the morning star, fr. Lucifer light-bearing, fr. luc light + -fer -ferous--more at LIGHT]" (Webster's, p.677)

Rev 22:16 "I Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star(Lucifer).”

Morning Star was Baal's son in mythology.
The nemesis of Shalem (Evening Star).

You had something once upon a time, it seems there's holes in your brain now. Watch out for the big spiders.

 

[HaShev]

Gotcha again, you got caught calling those scripture verses opinions. =Busted.

Ok take God's word all those verses on idols, but how about this one;
Dan 10:21

Idols
They are liars--Jeremiah 50:36.
Are mad (lost their reason)
upon their idols--Jeremiah 50:38.
Believes they are gods--Isaiah 47:8, 10
Breaks bones of God's people--Jeremiah 50:17
Builds great image of man
for all to worship--Daniel 3:1-7.
Make Metal idols Leviticus 19:4,
1 Kings 14:9, Isaiah 48:5
Makes a graven image that they be their own witness to: Isiah44;9
Carpenter creates a wood idol: Isaiah44;13
And the residue thereof he maketh a god-Even his graven image that ;He falleth down unto it and worshippeth it. and prayeth unto it and saith Deliver me; for this art my GOD- Isiah44;17
Casts out God's people--Jeremiah 51:34
Causes God's people to be slain--Jeremiah 51:49
Completely removes all precious vessels --2 Kings 25:13-17
Connected with hell--Isaiah 14:9
Pierced dragon-Isaiah
Pierced morning star Isaiah 14:12-19
Crushes God's people-Jeremiah 51:34 Cuts down people as trees-Isaiah 14:8
Defiles sacred vessels and precious things of God's design--Daniel 5:2-4.Destroys all the earth--Jeremiah 51:25. Destroys God's heritage--Jeremiah 50:11.Devours God's people--Jeremiah 51:34.
Does evil among God's people--Jeremiah 51:24.Does not consider her possible destruction (does not lay these things to heart)--Isaiah 47:7. Does not glorify God--Daniel 5:23. Does not remember warnings given about her destruction--Isaiah 47:7.
Dwells upon many waters--Jeremiah 51:13.Employs reapers to harvest fields (sown with seeds of falsehood)--Jeremiah 50:16.Employs sowers (to spread seeds of falsehood)--Jeremiah 50:16.Fears not the Lord--2 Kings 17:25.
Full of falsehoods--Jeremiah 51:17.Full of pomp--Isaiah 14:11.Full of unclean birds--Jeremiah 50:39.Full of wild beasts--Jeremiah 50:39.Full of vanity--Jeremiah 51:18.Gentiles have not yet seen the face of G0d- Isaiah 66:19
Her men are brutish in their own knowledge--Jeremiah 51:17. Her mighty men are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57. Her princes are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57.Her rulers are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57.Her waves (ministers--those raised up above the level of the sea or people) do roar--Jeremiah 51:55.Her wise men are drunk and asleep--Jeremiah 51:57.Highest leader becomes angry when his will is disregarded for God's will--Daniel 3:19..Highest leader makes hasty decisions--Daniel 2:15..Holds God's people captive--Jeremiah 50:33.
Her cry (glory) is found in ships(Romes army was called ships)-Isaiah 43:14.
Oppresses--Isaiah 14:4; Jeremiah 50:16, 33.Persecutes by fire all who do not bow and worship image of man--Daniel 3:6.Places relatives in high positions of leadership (nepotism)--2 Kings 24:17.Practices abundant enchantments--Isaiah 47:8, 12.Practices divination--Ezekiel 21:21.Practices sorcery--Isaiah 47:9, 12.
Practice divination, soothsayer, augur sorcerer, 11 charmer, medium, wizard, necromancer- Deut 18:10
Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree" also read Deuteronomy 21:22
they that be cursed of Him shall be cut off-(Psalm 37:22)
Gave praise and glory to another G0d and created an idol for this other -"Isaiah 42:8 we can't pray to any image of anything physical- Exodus 20:3-7 and Deuteronomy 5:8-10
God is not a man nor form-(Isaiah 2:22, 14:13, I Samuel 15:29, Numbers 23:19, and Hosea 11:9, Deuteronomy 4:11-12 and the 13 major principles of the Jewish faith based on the Rambam's teaching of "ain lo demus haguf ve'ayno guf" -- that Hashem has no physical form.)
They profane the name of G0d- Deut. 12:3
Given to pleasure--Isaiah 47:8.
lo ish el vichazev u-vein-adam v'yitnecham
Meaning: God is not a man, nor will he lie, nor is he mortal, nor will he relent.(Jesus was a mere man who lied and who relented).- Numbers 23:19A day in store for all the proud and lofty, for all that is exalted (and they will be humbled)," (Isaiah 2:12).
They will be shameless and arrogant, (Midrash Rabbah on Song of Songs 2:29 )
truthfulness will all but disappear. (Mishnah Sota 9:15)
Nations assemble,and peoples plot vain things;kings of the earth take their stand,and regents intrigue togetheragainst the LORD and against His anointed- Psalms 2
your own sword hath devoured your prophets, like a destroying lion.” Jeremiah 2:30
Ruining spiritual & intellectual nourishment by mucking it up to cover up from others consumption- Ezekiel 34:18
GOD ABHORS (hates for the simple) DECEITFUL men-(Psalm 5:6)
boast, of mischief done against the godly? All the day 2 you are plotting destruction. Your tongue is like a sharp razor, you worker of treachery. 3 You love evil more than good, and lying more than speaking the truth. -Psalm 52:1 -3
These false prophets who do not speak for G-d. -Ezekiel CH 13, Deut 18:20-22, Isa. 30:10, Jer. 5:30-31, 14:14, 23:16, 26, 31-32
vanity unto thee, whiles “they divine a lie unto thee”, to bring thee upon the necks of [them that are] slain, of the wicked, whose day is come, when their iniquity [shall have] an end.-Ezekiel 21:29

Fact; you reject the ACTUAL BIBLICAL MOSHIACH because you follow the forbidden imposter.
That's still on topic

Boy, there was some serious peyote or something in your past.

a) The Bible refers to only one Messiah the first go-'round

b) Where you're talking about the Anti-Christ, that refers to the second coming, after Christ is resurrected and

ascends into heaven, which the Bible says already happened.

Are you some kind of hallicinogen-fueled Luciferian or something?

1) ad hominems are not acceptable refutations.
2) this is false when you stated:
The Bible refers to only one Messiah the first go-'round.
Go research: Moshiach ben Joseph & Moshiach ben David=2 messiahs.
Remember there is 2 guardians on the
ark of the covenant = 2 top messengers
Lucifer who comes first and Michael the remover/overturner.
The word Shiloh (one who's right it is) means someone came first to imposter and steal that right, which is even what Christianity teaches however they confuse sequences.
3)which brings us to mistake number 3 the story of the son of perdition Ezekiel 28:14-15 called
Anointed(christ) Cherub(Guardian in Hebrew=Nazarene) an image of a man deemed perfect(sinless) is an OT warning of the false first fallen to the pit messiah (Jesus fell to hades Acts 2:27, 1 Peter 3:19 and Apostles Creed. Perdition means to fall to the pit, Jesus is the son who fell by the hands of Rome (called Seas)
Read ALL OF Ezekiel 28.
Jesus is LUCIFER they exclaimed it in
Rev 22:16.
So you can't use Prexisting text that claims the first (Jesus) is Lucifer to claim additional text says Lucifer returns o claim the Moshich is the first fallen. 2 can't be 1, once again proving my point on sequences.
IQ tests, & SAT tests all have sequences in the exams, clearly this stumps Christians who don't comprehend time lines or sequences of events nor proper tenses on past, present, future. It's what you get when you get your info and teachings from backwoods preachers that sound like
Ernest P. Worell.

Drugs have scrambled your brain.

See you bashed your own text and logic.
You are demonizing your stumbling block so as to not address it or make it valid, perhaps a mechanism to ease your mind.
This deflection technique is the same way you see Dems do that demonization to your party affiliates.

Jesus must have scrambled his brain to admit being Lucifer.

Dictionary:
[See Lucifer here etymology of "": "[ the morning star, a fallen rebel archangel, THE Devil, fr. OE. fr. Latin, the morning star, fr. Lucifer light-bearing, fr. luc light + -fer -ferous--more at LIGHT]" (Webster's, p.677)

Rev 22:16 "I Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star(Lucifer).”

Morning Star was Baal's son in mythology.
The nemesis of Shalem (Evening Star).

You had something once upon a time, it seems there's holes in your brain now. Watch out for the big spiders.

You used an ad hominem reply again.
Using your comments you called Jesus scrambled brain, websters dictionary and NT as being holes in their heads because that's what I posted as sources which you never refuted and smokescreened deflected replied.

 

[irosie91]

Yea ... you say that. But, I have a simple rule. There are over 400 different xtian faiths all claiming to be the one and only. I'm not going to get into that debate. That's between y'all. But if a man claims to be a follower of Jesus, claims to be following the tenants of his faith as he understand them and belongs to a xtian faith then I'm going to take him at his word and call him a xtian.

If you reject that then you have to reject the notion than anyone who commits any act, good or bad, is representative of his faith. Terrorists can't be Muslim Terrorists. Jews can't be held responsible for whatever y'all think we did. It's individuals only.

I can understand your rejection of Hitler, the man who embodies evil in the 20th Century, as a fellow religionist. But how do you rationalise the fact that millions of good xtian followers in Europe either turned a blind eye to his acts or jumped right in and helped him? There were xtians who tried to help Jews here and there but they certainly weren't in the majority. The man said early on, before he had any real power, that he wanted to rid Europe of its Jews and no one tried to stop him.

How do you get over the fact that many Jews fought with Hitler? Jews were not innocent, they had many partisan groups. Communism verses Socialism is what the war was about and land.

Same as in first century Palestine , a civil war between the zealots and the moderate jews, same as is happening in Israel today, which was tried to be set up as a secular country, to be a jewish one , you want a nationality, not a religion, like French, well the problem is most of you are German, French, American, Polish, and yet you try your best to govern every land you inhabit.

These Jewish communists were incredibly ruthless in stamping out any type of religious activity by fellow Jews. They killed rabbis, closed the yeshivos and synagogues, banned all religious practices, and enforced it by getting friends to turn in neighbors, children to turn in parents and send them to Siberia for observing the religion. It was the Yevsektsia more than anything else that destroyed the Jewish community in Russia.

http://www.jewishhistory.org/jewish-europe-between-the-wars/

Judea declared War on Germany before Hitler even entered Poland.

Jews recognize the filth that the catechism whores shove down the throats of innocent children

EEWWWUUUUUUUUUUU

That's not all the catholic church has shoved down the throats of innocent children.

Judea declared War on Germany before Hitler even entered Poland.

It looks like 'Judea' had some pretty tough soldiers ... I can see why the Nazis were so scared.

Yes many worldwide , and also in the US, Britain, its always been the Jews hate everyone, even though they had no love for their "home country" which is why so few came back from Babylon.

In fact ----MOST returned from Babylon, some did not return from Alexandria. Some also did not return from Yemen.

Judea declared War on Germany before Hitler even entered Poland.

It looks like 'Judea' had some pretty tough soldiers ... I can see why the Nazis were so scared.

Yes many worldwide , and also in the US, Britain, its always been the Jews hate everyone, even though they had no love for their "home country" which is why so few came back from Babylon.

Most of the exiles to Babylon returned but then fled as the pimps of rome and the
VESTAL (make that catechism) whores streamed in

This is when King Cyrus freed them. Ha Ha. You have not even read the OT.

HA HA HA -----"this" is a pronoun------it must refer to something-----to what does your
"this" refer? You never read the bible. Cyrus was a KING OF PERSIA-----during a
time when PERSIA controlled BAB

Yea ... you say that. But, I have a simple rule. There are over 400 different xtian faiths all claiming to be the one and only. I'm not going to get into that debate. That's between y'all. But if a man claims to be a follower of Jesus, claims to be following the tenants of his faith as he understand them and belongs to a xtian faith then I'm going to take him at his word and call him a xtian.

If you reject that then you have to reject the notion than anyone who commits any act, good or bad, is representative of his faith. Terrorists can't be Muslim Terrorists. Jews can't be held responsible for whatever y'all think we did. It's individuals only.

I can understand your rejection of Hitler, the man who embodies evil in the 20th Century, as a fellow religionist. But how do you rationalise the fact that millions of good xtian followers in Europe either turned a blind eye to his acts or jumped right in and helped him? There were xtians who tried to help Jews here and there but they certainly weren't in the majority. The man said early on, before he had any real power, that he wanted to rid Europe of its Jews and no one tried to stop him.

How do you get over the fact that many Jews fought with Hitler? Jews were not innocent, they had many partisan groups. Communism verses Socialism is what the war was about and land.

Same as in first century Palestine , a civil war between the zealots and the moderate jews, same as is happening in Israel today, which was tried to be set up as a secular country, to be a jewish one , you want a nationality, not a religion, like French, well the problem is most of you are German, French, American, Polish, and yet you try your best to govern every land you inhabit.

These Jewish communists were incredibly ruthless in stamping out any type of religious activity by fellow Jews. They killed rabbis, closed the yeshivos and synagogues, banned all religious practices, and enforced it by getting friends to turn in neighbors, children to turn in parents and send them to Siberia for observing the religion. It was the Yevsektsia more than anything else that destroyed the Jewish community in Russia.

http://www.jewishhistory.org/jewish-europe-between-the-wars/

Judea declared War on Germany before Hitler even entered Poland.

Jews recognize the filth that the catechism whores shove down the throats of innocent children

EEWWWUUUUUUUUUUU

That's not all the catholic church has shoved down the throats of innocent children.

Judea declared War on Germany before Hitler even entered Poland.

It looks like 'Judea' had some pretty tough soldiers ... I can see why the Nazis were so scared.

Yes many worldwide , and also in the US, Britain, its always been the Jews hate everyone, even though they had no love for their "home country" which is why so few came back from Babylon.

In fact ----MOST returned from Babylon, some did not return from Alexandria. Some also did not return from Yemen.

Judea declared War on Germany before Hitler even entered Poland.

It looks like 'Judea' had some pretty tough soldiers ... I can see why the Nazis were so scared.

Yes many worldwide , and also in the US, Britain, its always been the Jews hate everyone, even though they had no love for their "home country" which is why so few came back from Babylon.

Most of the exiles to Babylon returned but then fled as the pimps of rome and the
VESTAL (make that catechism) whores streamed in

This is when King Cyrus freed them. Ha Ha. You have not even read the OT.

ROFLMAO---penny imagines that King Cyrus had all the jews in the world in some
prison in Babylon-------the catechism whore told her

 

[irosie91]

[QUOTE="Penelope, post: 17559063, me


Seems the boycott started in Poland, religious wealthy jews, the German Jews , more assimilated, didn't want anything to do with it and they didn't want to go to Palestine. The maj of jews lived in Poland , slightly less than in NY, and it was hurting the Polish Jews exports along with the depression of 1929, but the Zionist in Israel did not want the boycott, as they were for the Transfer Agreement. The funny part was Germany was willing to do the transfer agreement due to the boycott , and then Poland also had a Clearing Agreement with Palestine.

In the end the transfer agreement won.[/QUOTE]


you are very confused, penny------the "transfer agreement' WON the opportunity for POPE PIUS---
and lots of catechism whores to gain ass licking and cock sucking rights on SAINT ADOLF HITLER.
You still mourn the loss of COCK IN MOUTH

 

[HaShev]

Ok I'm gonna use you ladies getting off track's topic to bring us back to why we reject Jesus as the anointed one.

Daniel 9:25 says, "from the time the decree to HaShev (restore) and rebuild Jerusalem was issued, until 'AN' annointed one, a ruler, it will be seven weeks". If the decree is indeed sometime around the beginning of the full Exile, 586 b.c.e., then who is this anointed ruler mentioned? And, GOD already has referred to ruler Cyrus as his Anointed in Isaiah 45:1
70 years after the destruction Cyrus rebuilt the Temple in other words it's completion in 516BC
Here's the reference of this ‘70 years’ by the Historian Josephus in Antiquities 11.1.1:
Notice How I use sources Penelope?
Ant. 11.1.1 "In the first year of the reign of Cyrus, which was the seventieth from the day that our people were removed out of their own land into Babylon, God commiserated the captivity and calamity of these poor people, according as he had foretold to them by Jeremiah the prophet, before the destruction of the city, that after they has served Nebuchadnezzar and his posterity, and after they had undergone that SERVITUDE seventy years, he would restore them again to the land of their fathers, and they should build their temple, and enjoy their ancient prosperity; and these things God did afford them."

So Daniel and Isaiah & history show Cyrus does the anointed roles of bringing back the exiles and returning the Temple sll messianic roles however it's the LORD (KING/MASTER=[arch]HIGH PRIEST)
that is 'redeeming'(HaSheva).

Dan CHAPTER TEN Verse 13: But the prince of the kingdom of the Persians resisted me one and twenty days: and behold Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, and remained there by the king of the Persians (Cyrus).
**Michael is dealing with Cyrus** thus who is Ezra 1 and Isaiah 44-45 calling LORD(King/head of hosts) AND REDEEMER(HaSheva)?

Dan 10 Verse 20: And the angel said: "Do you know where I came from?" And now will
*Hashev* Lacham Sar Parac"(HaShev fight the prince of Persia).

Dan 10:
Verse 21: But I will tell thee what is set down in the scripture of truth: and none is my helper in all these things, but Michael your prince.

1 Ezra 1:1 it was the Lord who stirred up the spirit of Cyrus.
Isaiah 44:24-28 and 45,
the Redeemer (HaSheva)caused Cyrus' heart to change to do the Moshiach roles of delivering the people gathering them, rebuilding the temple=Moshiach roles.
Jesus is still getting out of bed with Lazarus nowhere to be found in the HaSheva (restoration).

Point, Set, Match.......