Why Must Socialist Dems Attempt To Use Legislation To FORCE Me To Adopt Their Personal Choices?

[mudwhistle]

In honor of the New Green Deal, today I’m going to order 10 Big Macs, eat 1 and throw 9 away.

Throw em my way.

 

[BlindBoo]

[Actually Obama had a super majority in Congress to pass the Healthcare reform act. Trumpublicans even ran on saving many of the program of the act in 2018. Pre-existing conditions come to mind.

You REALLY need to go back to school and work on your reading comprehension.

I did not say Obama did not have a super-majority control of Congress - he did - that is how he did what I ACTUALLY said: He and the Democrats rammed a MINORITY-SUPPORTED SOCIALIST PIECE OF AGENDA, OBAMACARE.

The FACT was / is that at the time the Democrats rammed it into law in the wee hours of the morning while Americans were sleeping without ever having read the bill, the Majority of Americans OPPOSED the legislation. Through selective memory, I'm sure, you have forgotten / failed to mention how when it was about to be brought up for a vote a week or so earlier, Americans called into Congressional Phone lines almost crashing them, telling Congress NOT to pass it. So the Democrats pulled the bill, quietly letting the American people think they had won....until not long after they rammed it through while Americans slept.

Again, learn to read, improve your reading comprehension, and stop falsely accusing people / lying.

All Republicans cared about was the name, Obamacare. That's why the majority of them opposed it. Many of the liberals opposed it because it didn't go far enough to ensure affordable healthcare for all Americans and it's market based approach seemed like a gift to the entrenched insurance companies. So juggle the facts around to fit your agenda all you want, it passed the 60 vote threshold in the Senate.

Well being forced to have explosive premium hikes and declining care had nothing to do with the name of the bill. It was just a hideous failure.

As if those things weren't a reality before the law was passed? Premiums were always rising, but the care depends on your coverage. Since Trumpublicans were making Obamacare promises during the election I'll take it as not so much a hideous failure as you'd like to believe.

 

[basquebromance]

weird my husband's grandfather, uncle, father, and sister have all created successful businesses from nothing. Almost like capitalism has done more to lift people from poverty than anything else

Capitalism maxes. Socialism taxes.

capitalism makes. socialism takes

 

[easyt65]

In honor of the New Green Deal, today I’m going to order 10 Big Macs, eat 1 and throw 9 away.

Throw em my way.

If building your 10 Big Macs was covered under AOC's plan:

10 different fast food franchises would be consulted, hired, and supervise the burger-building process.

100 different employees would be involved in making them - 10 for each burger...at least 6 would sit on their ass.

Expected Wait time for these burgers would be 50 minutes, 5 minutes per burger.

You would be told the initial cost + a $50 deposit but told it might go up as the go along.

After 2 hours you would be told the cost of your burgers had gone up 300%.

After another 2 hours you would be told the cost just went up another 300% & estimated completion time would be 1 more hour.

At the end of that hour the 10 managers would come out and tell you they were stopping work on your order but they were keeping your money....

 

[easyt65]

As if those things weren't a reality before the law was passed? Premiums were always rising, but the care depends on your coverage. Since Trumpublicans were making Obamacare promises during the election I'll take it as not so much a hideous failure as you'd like to believe.

They were in there.

Just like anyone with an IQ higher than a rock knew the POS would not pay for itself or would not cost a dime.
- No govt program in human history every did that.

Just like anyone with an IQ higher than a rock knew there was no way you could keep your plan when the govt was telling us they were going to impose a new govt-defined minimum coverage that EVERY US policy had to contain.

The rubes were lied to and fooled......some rubes are still defending the POS that - as Harry Reid admitted - was designed to fail!

 

[Lesh]

This is the new meme...

THEY'RE SOCIALISTS!!!!! RUN!!!

Of course progressive taxation is socialist
Social Security is socialist
Medicare is socialist
Medicaid is socialist
The VA is socialist
Public Education is socialist

And newsflash...

We have a problem with healthcare. The GOP has screwed up Obamacare (and continue to do so) so now we need something else. Is that Medicare for all? A Medicare buy in? Medicare at 50?

SOMETHING needs to be done


We have a Climate Change problem. The Green New Deal is the START of a conversation about how to deal with it.. Green means clean. It means jobs. It means that we're dealing with Climate Change. It ultimately means energy independence and CHEAPER energy.

And yes folks. We have a "wealth problem". 40 years of conservative policies have damaged the working man/middle class and added TRILLIONS to the debt.

Welcome to the 21st century but don't act stupid. This was a quasi socialist nation ever since the Depression and it made this country the most powerful richest nation on earth.

Save the hyperbole. That's the rich talking through their stooges

 

[bripat9643]

This is the new meme...

THEY'RE SOCIALISTS!!!!! RUN!!!

Of course progressive taxation is socialist
Social Security is socialist
Medicare is socialist
Medicaid is socialist
The VA is socialist
Public Education is socialist

And newsflash...

We have a problem with healthcare. The GOP has screwed up Obamacare (and continue to do so) so now we need something else. Is that Medicare for all? A Medicare buy in? Medicare at 50?

SOMETHING needs to be done


We have a Climate Change problem. The Green New Deal is the START of a conversation about how to deal with it.. Green means clean. It means jobs. It means that we're dealing with Climate Change. It ultimately means energy independence and CHEAPER energy.

And yes folks. We have a "wealth problem". 40 years of conservative policies have damaged the working man/middle class and added TRILLIONS to the debt.

Welcome to the 21st century but don't act stupid. This was a quasi socialist nation ever since the Depression and it made this country the most powerful richest nation on earth.

Save the hyperbole. That's the rich talking through their stooges

Oh look! He's trying to blame Republicans for the fact that Obamacare is a piece of shit. Of course, every 5 year old knows that Obamacare was a piece of shit the day Obama and the Dims created it. Any bill that's 1800 pages long is guaranteed to be a piece of shit, especially when it's passed in the middle of night.

As for those socialist programs you listed? They all suck. All the socialist parts of our economy suck.

What we have is a Democrat problem. No matter how much wealth we toss into the socialist toilet bowl, it will never be enough.

 

[Tehon]

CASE IN POINT:

Vegan Sexual Assaulter Cory 'I Am Spartacus' Booker:

Booker rushed to wrap his arms around AOC's demented 'Green New Fantasy'. claiming he is all on board and supports it...especially the part about 'The War On Cow Farts'!

Unfortunately his enthusiasm for fighting cow farts led him to go on a Vegan rant, one in which he shared the following:

“You see the planet earth moving towards what is the Standard American Diet. We’ve seen this massive increase in consumption of meat produced by the industrial animal agriculture industry.”

Copy - Spartacus is pissed that there is a huge global preference for eating MEAT instead of eating what meat eats.


“The tragic reality is this planet simply can’t sustain billions of people consuming industrially produced animal agriculture because of environmental impact. It’s just not possible, as China, as Africa move toward consuming meat the same way America does because we just don’t have enough land.”

Copy - Spartacus says the world can not go on eating meat because cow farts are going to destroy us all and the world as we know it.

"Besides convincing the masses to give up meat, Booker has other legislative goals that would interfere with America’s eating habits."

Copy - like with all Socialists / Liberals, Spartacus is not happy living his life and making his own choices. No, Spartacus wants to impose legislation that would force all of US to adopt HIS personal choices and preferences. (Cory believes he is smarter than you and can make personal decisions on how to live your life better that you can.)


“Legislatively, I want to continue to be a part of a movement of folk who are fighting against corporate interests that are undermining the public good and the public welfare”

AGAIN, Spartacus wants to be part of the Socialist movement that dictates to others how they should live their lives, to shape and control 'the public good and morale welfare' as Socialist Democrats define those terms.


I am sure Spartacus, like all Socialist Democrats, has 'the nation's best interests in mind' in regards to his intentions of designing, defining, imposing, and forcing his and his fellow Socialists' perfect Utopian Society. (1. I am sure Venezuela did not intend for their dipping their toes into the stream of socialism to destroy the strongest economy in South America and leave them broke and eating their pets to survive right now.)
(2. Democrats always want to be judged on their 'intentions' and never on the 'results'...mainly because the results usually turn out so f*ed up.)

I would prefer, however, that Spartacus 'slow his roll' for a moment and take the time to read the US Constitution again...if he ever did...and get re-acquainted to the concepts, principles, and beliefs on which this nation was founded - LIFE, LIBERTY, PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS, FREEDOM, and DEMOCRACY....

....Then back the hell away from my ribeye!

If Spartacus wants to be a Vegan and eat what cows eat...good for him. Me. I'm going to eat the cow.

If Spartacus is afraid of cow farts, eating what cows eat isn't going to stop cows from farting. If Spartacus promises t leave me alone and promises NOT to try to impose his Socialist agenda and choices on me I can promise him I will do more than my fair share to solve the cow fart problem by eating more than my share of steak!


Vegan Cory Booker Says Meat Eaters’ Days Are Numbered

This is what Cory Booker actually said:
So, I don’t want to preach to anybody about their diets; that’s just not how I live.” Booker also explicitly stated that “this doesn’t mean, in any way, getting rid of animal farming, but in many ways, it means lifting up the voices of small farmers again.”

daily caller is such tripe, they should be banned from this message board.

Nice attempt at selective cutting and editing, but no.

Here's his actual interview, straight from the source:

Cory Booker on Animal Rights, Veganism, and How to Change the World

VN: Do you think food policy will be a part of that?
CB: I think it has to be a part of it. You see the planet earth moving towards what is the Standard American Diet. We’ve seen this massive increase in consumption of meat produced by the industrial animal agriculture industry. The tragic reality is this planet simply can’t sustain billions of people consuming industrially produced animal agriculture because of environmental impact. It’s just not possible, as China, as Africa move toward consuming meat the same way America does because we just don’t have enough land.

Oh, look, there is EXACTLY what Easy quoted him saying, right there in the interview. It's almost like YOU were the fucking liar, not him. Hmmm. By all means, tell us how Veg News is a right-wing site that lied about what he said to them. I dare you.

Dud is such tripe, he should be banned from this message board.

No one claimed Easy was lying.
Are you mental?

 

[BS Filter]

weird my husband's grandfather, uncle, father, and sister have all created successful businesses from nothing. Almost like capitalism has done more to lift people from poverty than anything else

Capitalism maxes. Socialism taxes.

capitalism makes. socialism takes

AOC just assured herself of serving no more than one term. That didn't take long, less than 2 months.

 

[Lesh]

This is the new meme...

THEY'RE SOCIALISTS!!!!! RUN!!!

Of course progressive taxation is socialist
Social Security is socialist
Medicare is socialist
Medicaid is socialist
The VA is socialist
Public Education is socialist

And newsflash...

We have a problem with healthcare. The GOP has screwed up Obamacare (and continue to do so) so now we need something else. Is that Medicare for all? A Medicare buy in? Medicare at 50?

SOMETHING needs to be done


We have a Climate Change problem. The Green New Deal is the START of a conversation about how to deal with it.. Green means clean. It means jobs. It means that we're dealing with Climate Change. It ultimately means energy independence and CHEAPER energy.

And yes folks. We have a "wealth problem". 40 years of conservative policies have damaged the working man/middle class and added TRILLIONS to the debt.

Welcome to the 21st century but don't act stupid. This was a quasi socialist nation ever since the Depression and it made this country the most powerful richest nation on earth.

Save the hyperbole. That's the rich talking through their stooges

Oh look! He's trying to blame Republicans for the fact that Obamacare is a piece of shit. Of course, every 5 year old knows that Obamacare was a piece of shit the day Obama and the Dims created it. Any bill that's 1800 pages long is guaranteed to be a piece of shit, especially when it's passed in the middle of night.

As for those socialist programs you listed? They all suck. All the socialist parts of our economy suck.

What we have is a Democrat problem. No matter how much wealth we toss into the socialist toilet bowl, it will never be enough.

Well let's see. Republicans eliminated the risk corridors...the taxes on tanning etc....and the mandate. ALL of these things screwed with the costs.

So yea

 

[Lesh]

All the socialist parts of our economy suck.

Social Security?
Medicare?
Medicaid?
The VA?
Public education?

Hmmm

 

[bripat9643]

All the socialist parts of our economy suck.

Social Security?
Medicare?
Medicaid?
The VA?
Public education?

Hmmm

Exactly.

Social Security - bankrupt, a Ponzi scheme
Medicare - bankrupt.
Medicaid - bankrupt.
The VA - veterans died waiting to get treated, moron.
Public education - even the teachers say it sucks.

 

[bripat9643]

This is the new meme...

THEY'RE SOCIALISTS!!!!! RUN!!!

Of course progressive taxation is socialist
Social Security is socialist
Medicare is socialist
Medicaid is socialist
The VA is socialist
Public Education is socialist

And newsflash...

We have a problem with healthcare. The GOP has screwed up Obamacare (and continue to do so) so now we need something else. Is that Medicare for all? A Medicare buy in? Medicare at 50?

SOMETHING needs to be done


We have a Climate Change problem. The Green New Deal is the START of a conversation about how to deal with it.. Green means clean. It means jobs. It means that we're dealing with Climate Change. It ultimately means energy independence and CHEAPER energy.

And yes folks. We have a "wealth problem". 40 years of conservative policies have damaged the working man/middle class and added TRILLIONS to the debt.

Welcome to the 21st century but don't act stupid. This was a quasi socialist nation ever since the Depression and it made this country the most powerful richest nation on earth.

Save the hyperbole. That's the rich talking through their stooges

Oh look! He's trying to blame Republicans for the fact that Obamacare is a piece of shit. Of course, every 5 year old knows that Obamacare was a piece of shit the day Obama and the Dims created it. Any bill that's 1800 pages long is guaranteed to be a piece of shit, especially when it's passed in the middle of night.

As for those socialist programs you listed? They all suck. All the socialist parts of our economy suck.

What we have is a Democrat problem. No matter how much wealth we toss into the socialist toilet bowl, it will never be enough.

Well let's see. Republicans eliminated the risk corridors...the taxes on tanning etc....and the mandate. ALL of these things screwed with the costs.

So yea

What the fuck is a "risk corridor?"

Virtually everyone says the ACA sucks.

 

[BS Filter]

All the socialist parts of our economy suck.

Social Security?
Medicare?
Medicaid?
The VA?
Public education?

Hmmm

All of it. Seniors aren't getting what we were promised. Medicare is a nightmare and not getting what we were promised. Veterans are neglected and not getting the care they were promised. Public education is a disgrace. Teachers striking while getting paid more than people that work 12 months a year. Our government programs are a disgrace.

 

[danielpalos]

insist on the general welfare not the individual welfare, in those cases.

How far can we take this "insisting" on the "general welfare" and not the "individual welfare"?

What if we're overpopulated? The general welfare requires a 1/2 population reduction. Should we insist on the general welfare over the individual welfare?

You don't believe in individual liberty, do you, dan?

That's why you don't belong in the U.S. You need to go elsewhere, where they hate individual liberty.

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we should focus on the General not the Individual. Solving simple poverty is a general welfare concern not an individual welfare concern.

 

[danielpalos]

Freedom to choose, liberty, and freedom of speech, are the antithesis to socialism, collectivism, progressivism, and communism.

thank Goodness for politics and our First Amendment; any Talk can do.

 

[danielpalos]

insist on the general welfare not the individual welfare, in those cases.

when individuality is squashed for the common good. Innovation and economic growth are also squashed, why work harder or try something new or seek to innovate when all of your effort is taken from you and handed to someone else who chooses to do nothing for the same benefits you have. I won't support socialism because" I don't like eating dog or zoo animals or fighting over the best trash dumpsters to eat out of. Muchos gracias for the wake up call South America !

our welfare clause is General not specific or common.

 

[BluesLegend]

All the socialist parts of our economy suck.

Social Security?
Medicare?
Medicaid?
The VA?
Public education?

Hmmm

Exactly.

Social Security - bankrupt, a Ponzi scheme
Medicare - bankrupt.
Medicaid - bankrupt.
The VA - veterans died waiting to get treated, moron.
Public education - even the teachers say it sucks.

Exactly. Why would we hire government to run anything they are incompetent.

 

[danielpalos]

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A Social wall not a Capital wall!

 

[danielpalos]

Where’s the socialism?

Socialism is the government forcing everyone to do something they normally wouldn't do.

No it’s not . But hey let’s go with it . Can you give me a real life example . Here in America .

Socialism.....by definition.....is government ownership of all business and or property.
Socialism is not free stuff forever like Millenials think.

The People delegated the Power to Tax to Congress assembled, to solve the problems of our Republic and pay the Debts;

Socialism is a Government Obligation.