Why mass shootings don't lead to more gun control

[Quantum Windbag]

Interesting paper that actually worked not to have an agenda.

[FONT=Myriad Roman, Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif;]The pattern is a painfully familiar one. A gunman opens fire in a public place, killing many innocent victims. After this tragedy, support for gun control surges. With a closing window for reform, politicians and activists quickly push for new gun laws. But as time elapses, support decreases. Soon enough, the passions fade, and society returns to the status quo.

We call this paradigm "the shooting cycle." This article provides the first qualitative and quantitative analysis of the shooting cycle, and explains how and why people and governments react to mass shootings.

This article proceeds in five parts. First, we bring empirical clarity to the debate over mass shootings, and show that contrary to popular opinion, they are fairly rare, and are not occurring more frequently. Second, relying on cognitive biases such as the availability heuristic, substitution effect, and cultural cognition theory, we demonstrate why the perception of risk and reaction to these rare and unfamiliar events are heightened. Third we chronicle the various stages of the shooting cycle: tragedy, introspection, action, divergence, and return to the status quo. During the earlier stages, emotional capture sets in, allowing politicians and activists to garner support for reform. But, after the spike, soon support for reform fades, and regresses to the mean. Fifth, with this framework, we view the year following the horrific massacre in Newtown through the lens of the shooting cycle. We conclude by addressing whether the shooting cycle can be broken.[/FONT]

The Shooting Cycle by Josh Blackman, Shelby Baird :: SSRN

 

[KNB]

America sells billions of dollars of weapons all over the world every year and then everyone wonders why so many people get shot.

http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/asmp/index.html

 

[The Rabbi]

America sells billions of dollars of weapons all over the world every year and then everyone wonders why so many people get shot.

Federation of American Scientists :: The Arms Sales Monitoring Project

How do weapons sold overseas to governments result in people in the US being shot?
You're not making sense. Again.

 

[FA_Q2]

Interesting paper that actually worked not to have an agenda.

[FONT=Myriad Roman, Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif;]The pattern is a painfully familiar one. A gunman opens fire in a public place, killing many innocent victims. After this tragedy, support for gun control surges. With a closing window for reform, politicians and activists quickly push for new gun laws. But as time elapses, support decreases. Soon enough, the passions fade, and society returns to the status quo.

We call this paradigm "the shooting cycle." This article provides the first qualitative and quantitative analysis of the shooting cycle, and explains how and why people and governments react to mass shootings.

This article proceeds in five parts. First, we bring empirical clarity to the debate over mass shootings, and show that contrary to popular opinion, they are fairly rare, and are not occurring more frequently. Second, relying on cognitive biases such as the availability heuristic, substitution effect, and cultural cognition theory, we demonstrate why the perception of risk and reaction to these rare and unfamiliar events are heightened. Third we chronicle the various stages of the shooting cycle: tragedy, introspection, action, divergence, and return to the status quo. During the earlier stages, emotional capture sets in, allowing politicians and activists to garner support for reform. But, after the spike, soon support for reform fades, and regresses to the mean. Fifth, with this framework, we view the year following the horrific massacre in Newtown through the lens of the shooting cycle. We conclude by addressing whether the shooting cycle can be broken.[/FONT]

The Shooting Cycle by Josh Blackman, Shelby Baird :: SSRN

Does it?

The entire section on ‘Breaking the Cycle’ very much had an agenda as I read it. They were essentially exploring how to change the culture to be able to pass gun control legislation. The ‘cycle’ is a rather silly thing to study if you ask me. We ALL know that it exists and why.

 

[TemplarKormac]

America sells billions of dollars of weapons all over the world every year and then everyone wonders why so many people get shot.

Federation of American Scientists :: The Arms Sales Monitoring Project

That's by far the weakest logic ever used by you.

What of those who are saved by owning a weapon? And everyone wonders why gun control doesn't work?

An analogy:

You can't tell America to stop selling guns because they might be used for gun violence, no more than you can tell Germany to stop brewing beer because of those people who might drive while inebriated by it and whom cause fatal traffic accidents as a result.

Do you realize how much you're overreacting right now? Geez...

 

[History]

The better question is why are the rights of We The People infringed on in cities like Chicago where guns are banned, and yet Chicago has some of the highest crime rate in the country due to gun violence?? You see if everyone were able to carry a gun, then people could stop these fools from doing all these mass shootings..

Heroin, Murder, Cocaine, Meth, and Illegal Immigration are all "Illegal" so why then do we still see murders, illegal immigration and access fully to all these drugs??

Wake up Liberals, you don't make a bit of sense.. We will not become a country like Nazi Germany..

By the way, look at Switzerland gun laws and there crime rate..

 

[Geaux4it]

Firearms are here to stay. We will ensure that which the radical, leftist, anti-gun loons under estimate

Another good shooting from an armed off duty LEO.

Good guys 1
Scum thug 0
-Geaux

CHICAGO - A gun pointed at his gut, the off-duty sheriff’s sergeant digs through his pockets with his left hand, fumbling for money, as the three robbers surround him at the Far South Side gas station.

The sergeant is surer with his right hand, quickly drawing his own gun and firing point-blank. The gunman, 16, drops at his feet as the two others scatter, according to surveillance video that captured the robbery Monday night at a Citgo station at 103rd Street and Cottage Grove Avenue, across the street from Gately Stadium.

The sergeant swings around at the fleeing robbers, then points the gun down as the gunman struggles to get up. The video shows the sergeant kicking away the robber’s gun and then opening the passenger door of his own car, apparently to get his phone.

The 16-year-old, Deonta Dewight Mackey, was shot in the head and died at the scene, according to police. He lived in the 900 block of East 104th Street, about four blocks from where he died.

The sergeant was not injured, and police said they were still looking for the two other robbers.

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[Iceweasel]

The reason the shootings don't lead to more gun control is that for most of the country it's political suicide if people see it as an attempt to restrict guns. I've read that about half the homes in the US have a firearm. That's a lot of people. Nobody likes the killing but they know they live in a world occupied by bad guys and want the chance to defend themselves if it comes to it.

 

[blastoff]

Only in liberal land do idiots think more gun control laws, piled on top of already existing gun control laws, will some how, magically, convince bad guys to suddenly see the light and obey all those laws.

Way way beyond stupid but the low info dopes swallow the b.s. time and time again.

 

[Geaux4it]

Only in liberal land do idiots think more gun control laws, piled on top of already existing gun control laws, will some how, magically, convince bad guys to suddenly see the light and obey all those laws.

Way way beyond stupid but the low info dopes swallow the b.s. time and time again.

 

[Spiderman]

Less than 1% of all gun deaths occur in mass shootings Yet the gun grabbers concentrate most of their effort on them.

80% of all gun deaths are gang related and occur in isolated urban areas yet the gun grabbers concentrate none of their effort there.

 

[NightFox]

Let's face it, STATES (aka Governments) have murdered far more innocent people with guns than civilians have, so one wonders why don't gun control advocates start with getting guns out of the hands of agents of the state (aka the really large scale and most dangerous murderers) and worry about the far smaller problem of guns in the hands of private citizens once that objective is accomplished?

 

[Iceweasel]

Let's face it, STATES (aka Governments) have murdered far more innocent people with guns than civilians have, so one wonders why don't gun control advocates start with getting guns out of the hands of agents of the state (aka the really large scale and most dangerous murderers) and worry about the far smaller problem of guns in the hands of private citizens once that objective is accomplished?

How deep is your foxhole?

 

[editec]

Let's face it, STATES (aka Governments) have murdered far more innocent people with guns than civilians have, so one wonders why don't gun control advocates start with getting guns out of the hands of agents of the state (aka the really large scale and most dangerous murderers) and worry about the far smaller problem of guns in the hands of private citizens once that objective is accomplished?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States_2012

 

[NightFox]

Let's face it, STATES (aka Governments) have murdered far more innocent people with guns than civilians have, so one wonders why don't gun control advocates start with getting guns out of the hands of agents of the state (aka the really large scale and most dangerous murderers) and worry about the far smaller problem of guns in the hands of private citizens once that objective is accomplished?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States_2012

STATES as in National Governments not States as in the elements of the American Republic ....... just off the top of my head I think the various STATES involved wacked somewhere between 20 and 30 million civilians just in WW II alone....... it'll be a while before armed private citizens match that total.

If you want to fire up a good mass killing spree the best place to start is in a National Capital, that's where the real expert mass murderers reside.

 

[Iceweasel]

... just off the top of my head I think the various STATES involved wacked somewhere between 20 and 30 million civilians just in WW II alone....... it'll be a while before armed private citizens match that total.

If you want to fire up a good mass killing spree the best place to start is in a National Capital, that's where the real expert mass murderers reside.

The word murder has a specific meaning, war isn't murder. And where do you get 30 million from? You're the kind of guy that gives the left plenty of ammo.

 

[rightwinger]

Mass shootings are the price we pay for our second amendment rights

Nobody gives a shit if a few people get shot

 

[eflatminor]

Only in liberal land do idiots think more gun control laws, piled on top of already existing gun control laws, will some how, magically, convince bad guys to suddenly see the light and obey all those laws.

Way way beyond stupid but the low info dopes swallow the b.s. time and time again.

It's because they believe in the six most dangerous words in the English language: "It will be different this time".

That they're never right is beside the point...it's what feels right that counts. Basing laws and rules on intention rather than results...it's the libtard way!

 

[Geaux4it]

Mass shootings are the price we pay for our second amendment rights

Nobody gives a shit if a few people get shot

Well, to put it in a more PC light

Acceptable risk for those who want to live here in the United States that don't approve of guns.

-Geaux

 

[eflatminor]

Mass shootings are the price we pay for our second amendment rights

Nobody gives a shit if a few people get shot

They proved that in Norway...

Oh, wait, maybe not.