Why low income whites usually vote for Trump

[Mac1958]

Trump tells unemployed factory workers lies to give them hope of getting factory jobs. When they do not get factory jobs, he gives them people to hate.

He's their living Jesus. He gives them hope. They think he can cure their misery.

I have no idea how. But he gives them hope. This guy. Of all people.

 

[Hector12]

He's their living Jesus. He gives them hope.

I have no idea how. But he does. This guy. Of all people.

Trump disappoints their hopes. He makes promises that do not come true.

 

[Mac1958]

Trump disappoints their hopes. He makes promises that do not come true.

So does their version of Jesus.

Once they've bought in, they come up with excuses for that.

 

[Hector12]

Obama and the Democrats literally took over General Motors, even getting politicians jobs in the management of GM.

Democrats fought Trump policies winning many of the battles.
Now democrats blame Trump belike! fixing what democrats broke and what democrats fought to keep broke!

There is no future in factory work. Skilled blue collar jobs require IQs of at least 80. Professional and managerial jobs require IQs of at least 115.

When Henry Ford opened his first assembly line he said, "It will be a haven for guys without the brains for anything else."

 

[SweetSue92]

He's their living Jesus. He gives them hope. They think he can cure their misery.

I have no idea how. But he gives them hope. This guy. Of all people.

INJECT THAT TDS MAC

CERTAINLY IT WILL MAKE YOU HIGH LIKE IT USED TO

 

[elektra]

There is no future in factory work. Skilled blue collar jobs require IQs of at least 80. Professional and managerial jobs require IQs of at least 115.

When Henry Ford opened his first assembly line he said, "It will be a haven for guys without the brains for anything else."

China disagrees as do the factories successfully operating in the usa

 

[TruthNotBS]

The last time Donald Trump was president, he travelled to Youngstown, Ohio, among the most depressed of America’s rust belt cities, and promised voters the impossible.

The high-paying steel, railroad and car industry jobs that once made Youngstown a hard-living, hard-drinking blue-collar boom town were coming back, he said. “Don’t move. Don’t sell your house,” he crowed to a rapturous crowd in 2017. “We’re going to fill up those factories – or rip ”em down and build brand new ones”.

None of that happened. Indeed, within 18 months, General Motors (GM) announced that it was suspending operations at its one remaining manufacturing plant outside Youngstown, throwing 5,000 jobs into jeopardy in a community with little else to cling to. Trump’s reaction was to say the closure didn’t matter, because the jobs would be replaced “in, like, two minutes”.

That, too, did not happen. People moved away, marriages broke down, depression soared and, locals say, a handful of people took their own lives.

Ordinarily, politicians who promise the moon and fail to deliver get punished at the ballot box. But that did not happen to Trump either. Instead, he has steadily built up his popularity in Youngstown, a city that was once a well-oiled Democratic party machine but has now turned into one of his most remarkable bases of working-class support.

“Does [Trump] understand at all what you’re going through?” Joe Biden asked Ohio voters during the 2020 presidential campaign, referring directly to the GM closure. “Does he see you where you are and where you want to be? Does he care?”

To which the answer, in Youngstown, has been an astonishing and vigorous “yes”.

‘There are a lot of bitter people here, I’m one of them’: rust belt voters on why they backed Trump again despite his broken promises | Donald Trump | The Guardian

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Arthur Jensen gave this interview to Jared Taylor in 1992. It is still as timely and relevant as the day it was recorded.

people have been taught from early childhood — and it’s especially true of better-educated people — that all people are essentially the same, except for very superficial differences due to their social background and advantages in upbringing and so forth…

Once you get below IQs of 80 or 75, which is the cut-off for mental retardation in the California School System, children are put into special classes. These persons are not really educable up to a level for which there’s any economic demand.

A Conversation with Arthur Jensen - American Renaissance

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Professor Jensen is mainly known for his writing about racial differences in average intelligence. What he has to say about IQs below 80 or 75 is equally true of the poorly educated whites Trump pretends to love, and who do love him.

As long as there were strong unions for factory workers, and plenty of factory jobs, white men with low IQs who could tolerate boredom for eight hours a day could earn reasonably good incomes. This is not true any more, as the following graph illustrates.

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Trump tells unemployed factory workers lies to give them hope of getting factory jobs. When they do not get factory jobs, he gives them people to hate.

Because many of them are religious racists, and just plain stupid. They have no class consciousness, unlike the wealthy like Trump and his ilk (Elon, Bezos..etc), who are FULLY, 100% Class Conscious. They advance their vested interests, and if it hurts the working class (those who have to rent themselves to the rich hourly for a wage), these wealthy capitalist elites, don't care. For many poor, conservative Republican Whites, everything revolves around another country (The Jewish Secular State Of Israhell), Mexicans and Blacks, Abortion, LGBTQ..and that's it. That's their only concern. They'll allow the wealthy plutocrats, to eat them alive, provided those aforementioned issues are being addressed.

Worship Jews, punish the illegal Mexicans who pick our produce in the fields, hate on Blacks, inflict pain upon the "harlots" who dared to have pre-marital sex and get pregnant (women have no sovereignty over their uteruses, even when all they have in their bodies, is a zygote or embryo), and hate more on gays. Everything else can go to hell (because Jesus is coming back soon and they're going to fly into the clouds with him). Let the billionaires take control and own everything and the average Joe American, who needs to go to work every day to avoid starving to death or being homeless, can suck an egg.

White working-class people, of religious-conservative persuasion, they're "not really" of the working class, they're only there (at work as an employee/exploitee) temporarily until they become billionaires too. That's why they grovel at the feet of their wealthy masters, kissing their feet like good little slaves.

These White, racist, religious conservative Republicans are going to one day ("soon"), become multimillionaires or billionaires, hence their current class condition is simply an artificial, temporary one, until they become of the wealthy, capitalist class. They look at other working-class people with contempt because they supposedly don't belong in that socioeconomic class. That's why they always defend the interests of the wealthy to the detriment of working-class people. They essentially, hate themselves...

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Adam Smith, The Father Of Industrial Age Capitalism:

"What are the common wages of labor, depends everywhere upon the contract usually made between those two parties, whose interests are by no means the same. The workmen desire to get as much, the masters to give as little as possible. The former are disposed to combine (To form labor unions) in order to raise, the latter in order to lower the wages of labor.

It is not, however, difficult to foresee which of the two parties must, upon all ordinary occasions, have the advantage in the dispute, and force the other into a compliance with their terms. The masters, being fewer in number, can combine (In the form of chambers of commerce, industry-specific associations, guilds, super-PACs, non-profit front organizations/NGOs, armies of lobbyists bribing politicians in the halls of government, think tanks staffed by Ivy league educated analysts and scholars who write the papers and legislation that they hand to the lobbyists, to give to their cronies in the US Congress) much more easily; and the law, besides, authorizes, or at least does not prohibit their combinations, while it prohibits those of the workmen."
(Wealth Of Nations - Book I, Chapter VIII)

Emphasis is mine.

"...whose interests are by no means the same."

White, Conservative, Working Class Republicans = They Love Their Masters And Hate The Working Class ​

(They Hate Themselves and can't wait to be raptured up to the clouds, with Jesus. Until that happens they'll worship Jews, The Rich, and Money...while hating Mexicans, Blacks, Gays, and pregnant "harlots".)

Human Labor is above or more important than, the wealthy parasites who exploit it. ​

Elon is only concerned with "short-term" profits and could care less how his hiring practices affect Americans in the long term. He's essentially telling American workers to go F-OFF.

Elon Doesn't care about American workers, and neither does his partner Donald Trump.

 

[struth]

The last time Donald Trump was president, he travelled to Youngstown, Ohio, among the most depressed of America’s rust belt cities, and promised voters the impossible.

The high-paying steel, railroad and car industry jobs that once made Youngstown a hard-living, hard-drinking blue-collar boom town were coming back, he said. “Don’t move. Don’t sell your house,” he crowed to a rapturous crowd in 2017. “We’re going to fill up those factories – or rip ”em down and build brand new ones”.

None of that happened. Indeed, within 18 months, General Motors (GM) announced that it was suspending operations at its one remaining manufacturing plant outside Youngstown, throwing 5,000 jobs into jeopardy in a community with little else to cling to. Trump’s reaction was to say the closure didn’t matter, because the jobs would be replaced “in, like, two minutes”.

That, too, did not happen. People moved away, marriages broke down, depression soared and, locals say, a handful of people took their own lives.

Ordinarily, politicians who promise the moon and fail to deliver get punished at the ballot box. But that did not happen to Trump either. Instead, he has steadily built up his popularity in Youngstown, a city that was once a well-oiled Democratic party machine but has now turned into one of his most remarkable bases of working-class support.

“Does [Trump] understand at all what you’re going through?” Joe Biden asked Ohio voters during the 2020 presidential campaign, referring directly to the GM closure. “Does he see you where you are and where you want to be? Does he care?”

To which the answer, in Youngstown, has been an astonishing and vigorous “yes”.

‘There are a lot of bitter people here, I’m one of them’: rust belt voters on why they backed Trump again despite his broken promises | Donald Trump | The Guardian

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Arthur Jensen gave this interview to Jared Taylor in 1992. It is still as timely and relevant as the day it was recorded.

people have been taught from early childhood — and it’s especially true of better-educated people — that all people are essentially the same, except for very superficial differences due to their social background and advantages in upbringing and so forth…

Once you get below IQs of 80 or 75, which is the cut-off for mental retardation in the California School System, children are put into special classes. These persons are not really educable up to a level for which there’s any economic demand.

A Conversation with Arthur Jensen - American Renaissance

----------------

Professor Jensen is mainly known for his writing about racial differences in average intelligence. What he has to say about IQs below 80 or 75 is equally true of the poorly educated whites Trump pretends to love, and who do love him.

As long as there were strong unions for factory workers, and plenty of factory jobs, white men with low IQs who could tolerate boredom for eight hours a day could earn reasonably good incomes. This is not true any more, as the following graph illustrates.

View attachment 1068858

Trump tells unemployed factory workers lies to give them hope of getting factory jobs. When they do not get factory jobs, he gives them people to hate.

Talk about low educated…you are using a graph from 11 years ago to talk abojt 2025

 

[Luckyone]

The last time Donald Trump was president, he travelled to Youngstown, Ohio, among the most depressed of America’s rust belt cities, and promised voters the impossible.

The high-paying steel, railroad and car industry jobs that once made Youngstown a hard-living, hard-drinking blue-collar boom town were coming back, he said. “Don’t move. Don’t sell your house,” he crowed to a rapturous crowd in 2017. “We’re going to fill up those factories – or rip ”em down and build brand new ones”.

None of that happened. Indeed, within 18 months, General Motors (GM) announced that it was suspending operations at its one remaining manufacturing plant outside Youngstown, throwing 5,000 jobs into jeopardy in a community with little else to cling to. Trump’s reaction was to say the closure didn’t matter, because the jobs would be replaced “in, like, two minutes”.

That, too, did not happen. People moved away, marriages broke down, depression soared and, locals say, a handful of people took their own lives.

Ordinarily, politicians who promise the moon and fail to deliver get punished at the ballot box. But that did not happen to Trump either. Instead, he has steadily built up his popularity in Youngstown, a city that was once a well-oiled Democratic party machine but has now turned into one of his most remarkable bases of working-class support.

“Does [Trump] understand at all what you’re going through?” Joe Biden asked Ohio voters during the 2020 presidential campaign, referring directly to the GM closure. “Does he see you where you are and where you want to be? Does he care?”

To which the answer, in Youngstown, has been an astonishing and vigorous “yes”.

‘There are a lot of bitter people here, I’m one of them’: rust belt voters on why they backed Trump again despite his broken promises | Donald Trump | The Guardian

----------------

Arthur Jensen gave this interview to Jared Taylor in 1992. It is still as timely and relevant as the day it was recorded.

people have been taught from early childhood — and it’s especially true of better-educated people — that all people are essentially the same, except for very superficial differences due to their social background and advantages in upbringing and so forth…

Once you get below IQs of 80 or 75, which is the cut-off for mental retardation in the California School System, children are put into special classes. These persons are not really educable up to a level for which there’s any economic demand.

A Conversation with Arthur Jensen - American Renaissance

----------------

Professor Jensen is mainly known for his writing about racial differences in average intelligence. What he has to say about IQs below 80 or 75 is equally true of the poorly educated whites Trump pretends to love, and who do love him.

As long as there were strong unions for factory workers, and plenty of factory jobs, white men with low IQs who could tolerate boredom for eight hours a day could earn reasonably good incomes. This is not true any more, as the following graph illustrates.

View attachment 1068858

Trump tells unemployed factory workers lies to give them hope of getting factory jobs. When they do not get factory jobs, he gives them people to hate.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Yeah, they are called illegals......What really needs to happen is the hammer being lowered on those who hire them.

If you know a democrat with an illegal immigrant house keeper or nanny, report them to ice.

End the slavery. Report the slavers.

 

[Hector12]

Talk about low educated…you are using a graph from 11 years ago to talk abojt 2025

The document still expresses the truth. There is no future in factory work.

 

[Hector12]

China disagrees as do the factories successfully operating in the usa

 

[struth]

The document still expresses the truth. There is no future in factory work.

up to that point, I agree

but it doesn't tell the entire story since it's 11 years old: Trump Campaign Press Release - FACT: President Trump Has Boosted U.S. Manufacturing | The American Presidency Project

• The US added 510,000 new manufacturing jobs between President Trump's election and February 2020.
• In 2018, the United States added 264,000 new manufacturing jobs -- the most in 30 years.
• During the Trump Administration's first 37 months, manufacturing production grew at a rate 11 times greater than the last 37 months of the Obama-Biden Administration.
• In 2018, 95% of manufacturers had a positive outlook on their business, a record high.

In Trump's First 30 Months, Manufacturing Up By 314,000 Jobs Over Obama; Which States Are Hot?

In the last 30 months of President Obama’s term, manufacturing employment grew by 185,000 or 1.5%. In President Trump’s first 30 months, manufacturers added 499,000 jobs, expanding by 4.0%. ...some 314,000 more manufacturing jobs were added under Trump than under Obama, a 170% advantage.

www.forbes.com

In Trump's First 30 Months, Manufacturing Up By 314,000 Jobs Over Obama​

 

[Independent thinker]

I agree with Trump on immigration. Nevertheless, factory jobs are being replaced by industrial robots. You cannot blame immigration for that.

We can certainly blame democrats for driving up wages to the point businesses searched for alternatives.

 

[Hector12]

We can certainly blame democrats for driving up wages to the point businesses searched for alternatives.

Republicans drive up wages so that employers will get mor profits.

 

[Independent thinker]

Republicans drive up wages so that employers will get mor profits.

Now that's funny. You always blame Republicans for not raising the minimum wage and then you turn around and say something like that. It was Biden's ass who stood with the unions to drive up wages and now you say it is Republican's fault for driving up wages.

 

[Hector12]

Now that's funny. You always blame Republicans for not raising the minimum wage and then you turn around and say something like that. It was Biden's ass who stood with the unions to drive up wages and now you say it is Republican's fault for driving up wages.

Republicans drive up wages so that employers will get mor profits.

I did not mean to say that at all. I meant to say the opposite: Republicans try to keep wages low and taxes for the rich low.. I am sorry about the misunderstanding.

 

[Billiejeens]

I think it is foolish for low income people to vote for Trump. Low income people do not benefit from tax cuts for the rich. They would benefit from socialized medicine, and better pensions from Social Security. They rarely have health benefits and pension programs at work. They cannot afford to pay for them out of their slender pay checks.

What a POS.

 

[Hector12]

What a POS.

What did I say about low income whites that is not true?

 

[Hector12]

Ironic that you talk about better educated people as seeing everyone as the same when you are doing nothing but casting all those people who support trump as beneath you.

Trump's economic policies benefit rich people. I am not rich. I am reasonably well educated, and I did not vote for Trump.