Why is this Race Even Close?

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On TV Wednesday night, Obama will give what one aide described to me as a “meaty” discourse on his basic tax and health-care proposals. No high-flown rhetoric, but rather a briefing paper for wary undecided swing voters---most of whom, the campaign thinks, are “soft Republicans” who kind of want to vote for Obama but need reassurance.

Consumer confidence is at an all-time low. The job performance rating of the outgoing Republican president is at Nixon-Carter levels. Nine out of ten voters think the country is off on the wrong track. The Democrats lead in the generic congressional preference vote by a double-digit margin.

Obama has outspent McCain on TV advertising three or four to one

Obama has four thousand paid organizers in key states, an unheard of number.

Most voters think that McCain’s running mate is not qualified to be president.

Many people wonder aloud if McCain is in fact too old (72) to be president.

Obama is one of the most winsome, charismatic candidates to have appeared on the scene in decades.

Still, in today’s “traditional Gallup” Daily Tracking Poll (the one that screens likely voters most rigorously, based on past votes), Obama leads McCain by only two percentage points, 49 to 47 percent.

It’s hard to make the Electoral College numbers add up for McCain. He has to win all of the current tossup states (Montana, North Dakota, Missouri, Indiana, North Carolina and Florida), plus Ohio and Virginia and one of the following three: New Hampshire, Colorado or New Mexico. That isn’t just drawing one inside straight; that’s drawing a whole casino’s worth of them.

So why hasn’t Obama run away with this?

Because the country remains culturally divided. Because the more it looks like Democrats will score huge gains in Congress, the more worried “soft Republican” voters get. Because McCain has succeeded, in the minds of some of those voters, in raising the hoary specter of “tax-and-spend” liberals.

Because Obama hails from a place (South Side Chicago)

Because of Jeremiah Wright, Ayers & Rezko

And, to a degree we cannot measure and may never fully know, because Obama is an African-American---and one with a Swahili name at that.

Race to the Finish : Why It?s Still a Race
 
On TV Wednesday night, Obama will give what one aide described to me as a “meaty” discourse on his basic tax and health-care proposals. No high-flown rhetoric, but rather a briefing paper for wary undecided swing voters---most of whom, the campaign thinks, are “soft Republicans” who kind of want to vote for Obama but need reassurance.

Consumer confidence is at an all-time low. The job performance rating of the outgoing Republican president is at Nixon-Carter levels. Nine out of ten voters think the country is off on the wrong track. The Democrats lead in the generic congressional preference vote by a double-digit margin.

Obama has outspent McCain on TV advertising three or four to one

Obama has four thousand paid organizers in key states, an unheard of number.

Most voters think that McCain’s running mate is not qualified to be president.

Many people wonder aloud if McCain is in fact too old (72) to be president.

Obama is one of the most winsome, charismatic candidates to have appeared on the scene in decades.

Still, in today’s “traditional Gallup” Daily Tracking Poll (the one that screens likely voters most rigorously, based on past votes), Obama leads McCain by only two percentage points, 49 to 47 percent.

It’s hard to make the Electoral College numbers add up for McCain. He has to win all of the current tossup states (Montana, North Dakota, Missouri, Indiana, North Carolina and Florida), plus Ohio and Virginia and one of the following three: New Hampshire, Colorado or New Mexico. That isn’t just drawing one inside straight; that’s drawing a whole casino’s worth of them.

So why hasn’t Obama run away with this?

Because the country remains culturally divided. Because the more it looks like Democrats will score huge gains in Congress, the more worried “soft Republican” voters get. Because McCain has succeeded, in the minds of some of those voters, in raising the hoary specter of “tax-and-spend” liberals.

Because Obama hails from a place (South Side Chicago)

Because of Jeremiah Wright, Ayers & Rezko

And, to a degree we cannot measure and may never fully know, because Obama is an African-American---and one with a Swahili name at that.

Race to the Finish : Why It?s Still a Race

If Obama loses brother, it won't be because of his race.

A few things you forgot to point out.

Obama is flip-flopper supreme and has abandoned, altered, and ignored almost every position he took in winning the nomination .. and he's abandoned the forces that drove him to the nomination.

Obama has become a warmonger and is following Bush's foreign policy to the letter.

Americans should be able to clearly see that Obama is Wall Street's brightest star and he's abandoned all illusions of being a populist. The notion that he's raised the most money in American history through small donations is preposterous. A very large chunk of that money is coming from Wall Street .. and the piper will have to be paid. This is significant because it's not some arab guy thousands of miles away that's destroying the American way of life .. it's the lock corporations/Wall Street has on our government.

In his quest to become king, Obama has shown that he will say anything to win. That ain't leadership my brother
 
If Obama loses brother, it won't be because of his race.

A few things you forgot to point out.

Obama is flip-flopper supreme and has abandoned, altered, and ignored almost every position he took in winning the nomination .. and he's abandoned the forces that drove him to the nomination.

Obama has become a warmonger and is following Bush's foreign policy to the letter.

Americans should be able to clearly see that Obama is Wall Street's brightest star and he's abandoned all illusions of being a populist. The notion that he's raised the most money in American history through small donations is preposterous. A very large chunk of that money is coming from Wall Street .. and the piper will have to be paid. This is significant because it's not some arab guy thousands of miles away that's destroying the American way of life .. it's the lock corporations/Wall Street has on our government.

In his quest to become king, Obama has shown that he will say anything to win. That ain't leadership my brother

:clap2:
 
In his quest to become king, Obama has shown that he will say anything to win. That ain't leadership my brother

I couldn't have said it any better myself.

This race is close because people don't trust Obama to deliver on all the miracles he's proposed during his two years on the campaign trail. For the past two years, he's given astounding speeches and made hundreds promises. For the past twenty years, he's done nothing in his personal, professional, or political life to back up the claims he's made.
 
If Obama loses brother, it won't be because of his race.

A few things you forgot to point out.

Obama is flip-flopper supreme and has abandoned, altered, and ignored almost every position he took in winning the nomination .. and he's abandoned the forces that drove him to the nomination.

Obama has become a warmonger and is following Bush's foreign policy to the letter.

Americans should be able to clearly see that Obama is Wall Street's brightest star and he's abandoned all illusions of being a populist. The notion that he's raised the most money in American history through small donations is preposterous. A very large chunk of that money is coming from Wall Street .. and the piper will have to be paid. This is significant because it's not some arab guy thousands of miles away that's destroying the American way of life .. it's the lock corporations/Wall Street has on our government.

In his quest to become king, Obama has shown that he will say anything to win. That ain't leadership my brother

I think this is the view of "card carrying" socialists across the country. They are not fond of Obama. This is why I don't believe Obama is a socialist.

Coal (if you don't want me to call you that, tell me how you would like to be addressed, i am just going by your screen name), are you voting for Obama or are you voting for the socialist candidate?
 
If Obama loses brother, it won't be because of his race.

A few things you forgot to point out.

Obama is flip-flopper supreme and has abandoned, altered, and ignored almost every position he took in winning the nomination .. and he's abandoned the forces that drove him to the nomination.

Obama has become a warmonger and is following Bush's foreign policy to the letter.

Americans should be able to clearly see that Obama is Wall Street's brightest star and he's abandoned all illusions of being a populist. The notion that he's raised the most money in American history through small donations is preposterous. A very large chunk of that money is coming from Wall Street .. and the piper will have to be paid. This is significant because it's not some arab guy thousands of miles away that's destroying the American way of life .. it's the lock corporations/Wall Street has on our government.

In his quest to become king, Obama has shown that he will say anything to win. That ain't leadership my brother


Look at what happened to Ron Paul for being as bold as you want Obama to be. What a joke. The first black president, shits gold, and walks on water, and I just showed you that even though he is close to perfect, IT"S STILL CLOSE!!!???:cuckoo:

What the fuck is wrong with America???

So what you see in Obama is the best you are going to get. And you have no idea what he will do when he gets into office. I gave him $25. Millions of people did. You ignore that no candidate in history has ever gotten as much as he has from the middle class.

So of course he is taking money from corporate America. Do you want them to ruin/sabotage him for not taking their money? Is he going to fuck corporate America? No. Should he? No.

So I'm in agreement with you that Obama aint gonna fix what's really wrong with America, but things will go back to before Bush got into office.

Sure we were destined for a recession. But the recession we are in now is not because of normal highs and lows. What's going on now is because of GOP deregulations and bullshit tax loopholes that helped empty the treasury.

Rich got breaks and GOP spent more. That equals doubling the debt.

Not to mention the $10 bill a month in Iraq and the $700 bankrobbery.

Who are you voting for? Racist Bob Barr? McCain? Who?
 
Our next President is John McCain, and the one after that will be Mrs. Palin, who has real executive experience since 2007. And Obama the "community organizer"? Americans want pro-Americans to lead our country. Obama is a Communist and terrorist sympathizer - and anti-American. Plus he was born in a radical Moslem country. That's why our heroic patriot Senator McCain will win in a landslide, 55% to 40%.
 
Look at what happened to Ron Paul for being as bold as you want Obama to be. What a joke. The first black president, shits gold, and walks on water, and I just showed you that even though he is close to perfect, IT"S STILL CLOSE!!!???:cuckoo:

What the fuck is wrong with America???

So what you see in Obama is the best you are going to get. And you have no idea what he will do when he gets into office. I gave him $25. Millions of people did. You ignore that no candidate in history has ever gotten as much as he has from the middle class.

So of course he is taking money from corporate America. Do you want them to ruin/sabotage him for not taking their money? Is he going to fuck corporate America? No. Should he? No.

So I'm in agreement with you that Obama aint gonna fix what's really wrong with America, but things will go back to before Bush got into office.

Sure we were destined for a recession. But the recession we are in now is not because of normal highs and lows. What's going on now is because of GOP deregulations and bullshit tax loopholes that helped empty the treasury.

Rich got breaks and GOP spent more. That equals doubling the debt.

Not to mention the $10 bill a month in Iraq and the $700 bankrobbery.

Who are you voting for? Racist Bob Barr? McCain? Who?




Close to perfect? You gotta be kidding us. No Obama for me. He is a liar, a cheat and most importantly a Marxist.
 
you guys love the 10 billion in Iraq yet you hear crickets from the left when you tell them we spend more money on illegal immigrants then the war
 
I think this is the view of "card carrying" socialists across the country. They are not fond of Obama. This is why I don't believe Obama is a socialist.

Coal (if you don't want me to call you that, tell me how you would like to be addressed, i am just going by your screen name), are you voting for Obama or are you voting for the socialist candidate?


Thanks for asking but "coal" is fine.

No, I'm not voting for Obama. I'm voting for Cynthia McKinney, even though I know she has no chance of winning and her views are too radical for today's America.

You're correct, socialist don't like Obama at all. But, democratic socialism doesn't need a socialist president. In fact, doesn't even need socialist politicians .. although I like Bernie Sanders a LOT.

America will come to socialism all on its own, because the mix of democracy and socialism is what's best for actual people .. as is a mix of free market principles pepered with a heavy dose of government controls .. look no further than the bailout for that example.
 
So what you see in Obama is the best you are going to get. And you have no idea what he will do when he gets into office. I gave him $25. Millions of people did. You ignore that no candidate in history has ever gotten as much as he has from the middle class.

That might have something to do with the fact that no candidate in modern history has ever refused public financing. :cuckoo:

I just showed you that even though he is close to perfect

:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:
 
Look at what happened to Ron Paul for being as bold as you want Obama to be. What a joke. The first black president, shits gold, and walks on water, and I just showed you that even though he is close to perfect, IT"S STILL CLOSE!!!???:cuckoo:

What the fuck is wrong with America???

So what you see in Obama is the best you are going to get. And you have no idea what he will do when he gets into office. I gave him $25. Millions of people did. You ignore that no candidate in history has ever gotten as much as he has from the middle class.

So of course he is taking money from corporate America. Do you want them to ruin/sabotage him for not taking their money? Is he going to fuck corporate America? No. Should he? No.

So I'm in agreement with you that Obama aint gonna fix what's really wrong with America, but things will go back to before Bush got into office.

Sure we were destined for a recession. But the recession we are in now is not because of normal highs and lows. What's going on now is because of GOP deregulations and bullshit tax loopholes that helped empty the treasury.

Rich got breaks and GOP spent more. That equals doubling the debt.

Not to mention the $10 bill a month in Iraq and the $700 bankrobbery.

Who are you voting for? Racist Bob Barr? McCain? Who?

you're close to perfect in a lot of ways, but i won't be voting for you, either.
 
Close to perfect? You gotta be kidding us. No Obama for me. He is a liar, a cheat and most importantly a Marxist.

Your party is full of liars, cheats and marxists. Socialize the losses and privatize the profits, for the top 1%. Fuck the rest.

Just like Communism turned out.
 
On TV Wednesday night, Obama will give what one aide described to me as a “meaty” discourse on his basic tax and health-care proposals. No high-flown rhetoric, but rather a briefing paper for wary undecided swing voters---most of whom, the campaign thinks, are “soft Republicans” who kind of want to vote for Obama but need reassurance.

Consumer confidence is at an all-time low. The job performance rating of the outgoing Republican president is at Nixon-Carter levels. Nine out of ten voters think the country is off on the wrong track. The Democrats lead in the generic congressional preference vote by a double-digit margin.

Obama has outspent McCain on TV advertising three or four to one

Obama has four thousand paid organizers in key states, an unheard of number.

Most voters think that McCain’s running mate is not qualified to be president.

Many people wonder aloud if McCain is in fact too old (72) to be president.

Obama is one of the most winsome, charismatic candidates to have appeared on the scene in decades.

Still, in today’s “traditional Gallup” Daily Tracking Poll (the one that screens likely voters most rigorously, based on past votes), Obama leads McCain by only two percentage points, 49 to 47 percent.

It’s hard to make the Electoral College numbers add up for McCain. He has to win all of the current tossup states (Montana, North Dakota, Missouri, Indiana, North Carolina and Florida), plus Ohio and Virginia and one of the following three: New Hampshire, Colorado or New Mexico. That isn’t just drawing one inside straight; that’s drawing a whole casino’s worth of them.

So why hasn’t Obama run away with this?

Because the country remains culturally divided. Because the more it looks like Democrats will score huge gains in Congress, the more worried “soft Republican” voters get. Because McCain has succeeded, in the minds of some of those voters, in raising the hoary specter of “tax-and-spend” liberals.

Because Obama hails from a place (South Side Chicago)

Because of Jeremiah Wright, Ayers & Rezko

And, to a degree we cannot measure and may never fully know, because Obama is an African-American---and one with a Swahili name at that.

Race to the Finish : Why It?s Still a Race

It's close because McCain selected Palin as his veep and because of the bailouts. He also hasn't said booh in any of the debates about Reverand Wright. Had he hit the Reverand Wright issue and selected a different running mate, he would be the clear favorite to win the Presidency.
 
Look at what happened to Ron Paul for being as bold as you want Obama to be. What a joke. The first black president, shits gold, and walks on water, and I just showed you that even though he is close to perfect, IT"S STILL CLOSE!!!???:cuckoo:

What the fuck is wrong with America???

So what you see in Obama is the best you are going to get. And you have no idea what he will do when he gets into office. I gave him $25. Millions of people did. You ignore that no candidate in history has ever gotten as much as he has from the middle class.

So of course he is taking money from corporate America. Do you want them to ruin/sabotage him for not taking their money? Is he going to fuck corporate America? No. Should he? No.

So I'm in agreement with you that Obama aint gonna fix what's really wrong with America, but things will go back to before Bush got into office.

Sure we were destined for a recession. But the recession we are in now is not because of normal highs and lows. What's going on now is because of GOP deregulations and bullshit tax loopholes that helped empty the treasury.

Rich got breaks and GOP spent more. That equals doubling the debt.

Not to mention the $10 bill a month in Iraq and the $700 bankrobbery.

Who are you voting for? Racist Bob Barr? McCain? Who?

Don't get upset with me my brother for expressing what I believe. I like you and I'd rather drop out of this conversation than cause any dissention between us.

I'm voting for McKinney because she and the Green Party are closer to my values and espouse all the things I believe important.

I do not share your belief that Obama is close to perfect, or even close to being acceptable to me. During the primaries, I gave him $400.00 .. which I want back due to false advertising. I argued with Clinton supporters, beat 'em up on black talk shows, and wrote articles announcing the coming of the king.

Yes, I'm stupid.

But, I'm not stupid enough not to see the mindfuck Obama is playing. Suggesting that "once he's in office" he'll change is a pipedream unsubstantiated by ANYTHING he's currently doing .. and ignores the fact that once in office he'll try to stay in office by bending over an dropping his pants just as he's doing now.

It also ignores the truth that he didn't have to FLIP-FLOP and agree with illegal wiretapping of Americans to get elected. Surely you don't believe that.

He didn't have to threaten Pakistan and Iran to get elected. Americans are tired of war. How is it that you have come to support needless war? We just invaded Syria and killed people .. do you think that was a good idea? .. Obama does.

The difference my brother is that my eyes are open and I don't reject what is clearly apparent. It wouldn't matter to me if my mother was running for president .. support needless war and I don't vote for my own mother.

He has to take money from the very element that is destroying this country .. he has to kiss Israels ass .. he has to spout war .. he has to change positions on the Patriot Act and illegal spying .. my question to you brother .. where's this so-called leadership you keep talking about?
 
It's close because McCain selected Palin as his veep and because of the bailouts. He also hasn't said booh in any of the debates about Reverand Wright. Had he hit the Reverand Wright issue and selected a different running mate, he would be the clear favorite to win the Presidency.

You don't think you touched enough on the Rev. Wright story? Maybe you pulled that card too soon or too late.

Hillary wishes she would have pulled the Wright story a year earlier.

People aren't buying it. We have vetted Obama for 2 years now and your stories are all lies and propoganda.

Just exactly what we expect from the establishment. Now who are you to be voting for the status quo?
 
I think this is the view of "card carrying" socialists across the country. They are not fond of Obama. This is why I don't believe Obama is a socialist.

Coal (if you don't want me to call you that, tell me how you would like to be addressed, i am just going by your screen name), are you voting for Obama or are you voting for the socialist candidate?

BAC is what we call him for short on another message board site... ;)
 

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