Why is the right falling apart all over the world ?

[BidenBeHiden]

So over the past few months the right has been routed in the UK. Its been thrashed in Po;and and France In November the right will have its arse kicked in the US. Australia rejected conservatism.

Ive got a good idea why but I wonder why the right doesnt see it ? In the US they could have picked Haley and had a chance. They had no chance in the UK after 14 years of dogma.

Poor leaders and shit policies.. Greed,lies and hate will not get you far.

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The MAGA movement is spreading (notably Argentina) and there's nothing you can do about it! MAGA rejects many neocon positions, so what the hell is your point?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That's all it was? Just the USA being "mean"? You're quite confused. And how does this apply to us today here in the US, in the 21st century? Why do you keep appealing to events in the last century, as if that applies to us today or 20, 40 years from now here in the USA? Socialism here in the US in the 21st century, with all of our advanced technology is exactly the same as socialism in the Soviet Union 100 or 80 years ago. That makes perfect sense to Todd. It's the same same same..... says Todd, hence it's so. That's Todd- fuzzy logic.



Yeah sure the shithole with the second largest economy in the world. Your denial of that fact doesn't change it. You ignore everything the Soviets dealt with, like for example, losing 14% of their population in WW2 and having to rebuild their new country on their own. But all of this is irrelevant to what I'm saying or arguing for, so you're just being a disingenuous, shallow-minded polemicist. Keep grinding the ax exposing your ignorance and dishonesty.

Your shithole had the second largest economy in the world and you still couldn't stop
poor, brave Cuba from turning into a shithole? How sad.

How's your commie shithole today?

A lot smaller, eh comrade?

You beat the Nazis and now you can't even beat Ukraine after 2 1/2 years.
I guess they don't make commie shitholes like they used to. LOL!

 

[Parker99]

This is a prime example of why the right is failing. Its just insane conspiravy theory nonsense..
You have been programmed like a robot.
I live in the UK but I dont recognise your description.
I do believe that people who advocate violence against our citizens should be punished. The right doesnt believe that. They havent since the US insurrection.

If I want call Muslim people a dirty pig, I should be able to do that on any street in UK or Europe.

But it is okay to call catholics and white people dirty pig?

One of the things first would countries had over other countries is we did not have hate speech laws or Blasphemy laws.

Just stop with this Marxism crap that white people have privilege.

 

[Parker99]

The MAGA movement is spreading (notably Argentina) and there's nothing you can do about it! MAGA rejects many neocon positions, so what the hell is your point?

The UK has had leadership under conservative government but the conservative party is far from conservative.

The conservative party is far left Marxism party in the UK that is bringing in hate speech laws, misinformation laws and blasphemy laws.

But bad mouthing the catholics and white people saying all kinds of crap to them and insults. And saying white people are evil and privilege.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

If I want call Muslim people a dirty pig, I should be able to do that on any street in UK or Europe.

But it is okay to call catholics and white people dirty pig?

One of the things first would countries had over other countries is we did not have hate speech laws or Blasphemy laws.

Just stop with this Marxism crap that white people have privilege.

You are making this shit up.

 

[Parker99]

You are making this shit up.

Are you over the age of 18? Most message boards have rules you have to be over the age of 18? You don’t seem know nothing about the UK and Europe base on your post you seem very young here.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Are you over the age of 18? Most message boards have rules you have to be over the age of 18? You don’t seem know nothing about the UK and Europe base on your post you seem very young here.

Kid, I live in the UK.
You give me an example of someone being locked up for calling a muslim a " dirty pig".
Ill wait.

 

[Parker99]

Kid, I live in the UK.
You give me an example of someone being locked up for calling a muslim a " dirty pig".
Ill wait.

I’m not going to have a conversation with some one that knows absolute nothing about world events here and some of this that has been talk about here many times in past threads.

When you get older and know stuff than we can talk.In the mean time my advice is to read some of the threads here to get you up on speed on some of the current events or ask your Mom or Dad to explain to you what is happing in the UK. Ask them about Marxism and white privilege and what is happing over there.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I’m not going to have a conversation with some one that knows absolute nothing about world events here and some of this that has been talk about here many times in past threads.

When you get older and know stuff than we can talk.In the mean time my advice is to read some of the threads here to get you up on speed on some of the current events or ask your Mom or Dad to explain to you what is happing in the UK. Ask them about Marxism and white privilege and what is happing over there.

So you dont have an example you thick fucker.

 

[Parker99]

So you dont have an example you thick fucker.

I’m not going spend time talking to kid that knows nothing about social problems happing in the UK and Europe.

My advice to read many of the threads here as it been talk about many times here it gets boring talking about same thing over and over.

 

[DBA]

So you dont have an example you thick fucker.

Here's a hint, it's regarding Trump and Musk.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Your shithole had the second largest economy in the world and you still couldn't stop
poor, brave Cuba from turning into a shithole? How sad.

How's your commie shithole today?

A lot smaller, eh comrade?

You beat the Nazis and now you can't even beat Ukraine after 2 1/2 years.
I guess they don't make commie shitholes like they used to. LOL!

I know because being 90 miles away from the American empire under its economic embargo, shouldn't have a negative effect on your developing Island nation. Todd-fuzzy logic proposes that all should be good, or else it's proof that socialism doesn't work. I'm Todd, I'm so smarty.

Russia is at war with NATO, the West, not just Ukraine, but I'm Todd so I don't see that. It's just Russia fighting Ukraine, not Russia fighting the ones arming and funding Ukraine, providing logistical support, training, and even personnel as well in the form of special forces. I'm Todd, I don't recognize that, it's just Russia vs Ukraine.

As far as Russia, it's now a mixed economy and until it became that in 2000, with more socialism, at the arrival of Putin, it was truly a complete shithole, being raped by Todd's buddies, the capitalist oligarchs.

Putin came, implemented a bit of socialism, and presto the GDP skyrocketed, and life improved for Russians. But I'm Todd, so I ignore that.

I love NATO because it's a cash cow for the American military-industrial complex, so I want it to expand into Eastern Europe and poke the bear. I love seeing Western imperialism creating chaos in Eastern Europe for profits and power.

I'm Todd, so I pretend that there's only one form of socialism, and socialism can only be what it was in the USSR, under the exact conditions the USSR was in, with the same form of government, technology, and geopolitical situation, it's all the same today in 2024, and in 2034, in 2050 or even 2150....., it will all be the SAME. Technology doesn't make a difference, a country's culture, values, its history, don't change anything, socialism is always the same everywhere. I'm Todd and I say that's the way it is, hence it's that way.

Socialism is always the same, in every location where it's implemented, and it must be adopted in exactly the same way everywhere. There's no such thing as a little socialism or a gradual transition into socialism, it has to be adopted all at once, full bore. I'm Todd, and when I say that's how it is, it's that way, because I want to give everyone the false impression that socialism must be how it was 100 years ago, or 60 years ago, it can't be any other way.

Capitalism is eternal and conditions will never require it to change, nor will it ever be rendered obsolete, it must be the same as I envision it to have been in the past and will be in the future. Capitalism replaced chattel slavery and feudalism, but capitalism will never be replaced into eternity, this is Todd-fuzzy logic. Let's follow along folks.

I am Todd, and I assert that the capitalist ruling class will always own the means of production, with all of the robots, artificial intelligence, and supercomputers. They will own the mines and factories, every facility with all of the machinery of production, including all of the distribution warehouses and automated outlet stores. The government which I hate so much because it's potentially what the working class can use to democratically strip me of my power, will give everyone a "Universal Income", creating a worthless, unproductive, consumer-serf for me and my wealthy capitalist buddies.

Capitalism will be sustained by the government, bailing me and my buddies out with a monthly check for the former working class, who has been replaced by my intelligent robots, that do practically everything that humans can do, and even better.

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I don't need human employees anymore, hence I don't pay wages, but the government can save my pathetic little tyrant worthless greedy ass, by handing out money to the former working class (94% of the population), maintaining my customer base intact. Let's sing along with Todd.

This way I and my rich capitalist buddies, can continue ruling over the roost with our wealth and ownership of the means of production. I'm Todd, this is my fuzzy logic.

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As Todd, I must spread Cold War claptrap, fearmongering propaganda to further brainwash the American working class, into not revolting against me and my buddies. I must convince people that they're better off being under the heel of the wealthy capitalist ruling class, renting our private, government-protected assets, and receiving a check from the government, to maintain capitalism and my pathetic, worthless, capitalist parasite ass. When the government services my interests it's not socialism, it's only socialism when it serves the public good.

Socialism always equates to the USSR and Cuba, there's no other outcome or form of socialism. There's only one type of socialism, and it will never change irrespective of time, location (country, culture, values, natural resources available..etc) technology, or geopolitical situation, it's all the same because I'm Todd and I say soooooo, sing along with me. Socialism is the same, because I say soooooo, it's always the same, and it's always scary, because I say so, and it can never replace capitalism, because I and my buddies are eternal, we will never allow the public to own the means of production together, managing it through their democratic government.

No that's impossible, the government must only serve me and my buddies and maintain capitalism with a monthly check. Socialism is only for the rich and powerful like me and my buddies, not for the general population, they can just bend over and take it, until the end of time.

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[Dragonlady]

The people have no problem with swarms of unskilled violent Muslim welfare recipients?

Do you enjoy all the unskilled violent Muslim welfare recipients?

There are no "swarms of unskilled violent Muslim welfare recipients". This is just the latest Conservative Boogeyman. In the 1960's and 70's, it was the swarms of unskilled violent Irish terrorists".

Fascist populists ALWAYS have a boogeyman. In Iran, "America is the Great Satan". In the OPEC countries, it's the "other" Muslims - Sunni or Shi'ite, In the USA, Trump has villanized "immigrants", or rather, "non-white immigrants". An identifiable "other" on whom everything bad in your life can be blamed.

For poor white Americans - DEI is stealing your jobs. Unqualified, stupid and lazy blacks and Hispanics are "stealing" your jobs. For poor black Americans "immigrants are stealing black jobs".

You idiots fall for this crap every single time.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I know because being 90 miles away from the American empire under its economic embargo, shouldn't have a negative effect on your developing Island nation. Todd-fuzzy logic proposes that all should be good, or else it's proof that socialism doesn't work. I'm Todd, I'm so smarty.

I guess Cuba should have stayed friendly with the capitalist countries.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There are no "swarms of unskilled violent Muslim welfare recipients". This is just the latest Conservative Boogeyman. In the 1960's and 70's, it was the swarms of unskilled violent Irish terrorists".

Fascist populists ALWAYS have a boogeyman. In Iran, "America is the Great Satan". In the OPEC countries, it's the "other" Muslims - Sunni or Shi'ite, In the USA, Trump has villanized "immigrants", or rather, "non-white immigrants". An identifiable "other" on whom everything bad in your life can be blamed.

For poor white Americans - DEI is stealing your jobs. Unqualified, stupid and lazy blacks and Hispanics are "stealing" your jobs. For poor black Americans "immigrants are stealing black jobs".

You idiots fall for this crap every single time.

There are no "swarms of unskilled violent Muslim welfare recipients".

Really? All the recent Syrian and Afghan refugees are peaceful and productive across Germany, France, Sweden and the UK? Link?

Who was rioting...umm...peacefully protesting, while waving machetes, against the right-wingers in the UK recently?

For poor black Americans "immigrants are stealing black jobs".

I've been hearing a lot about your recent car thefts.
Where are the thieves originally from?
Assuming any have been caught.......

 

[Kondor3]

Why is the right falling apart all over the world ?

1. Lack of a common vision with a broad "curb appeal"

2. Lack of communication skills

3. Lack of organizational skills

4. Lack of courage

 

[TruthNotBS]

I guess Cuba should have stayed friendly with the capitalist countries.

I can agree with you there. It could've adopted socialism, without becoming an enemy of the US, if it hadn't turned to the Soviets. I'm Cuban American and I know the strife that Castro's revolution has caused Cubans because my family has suffered because of it. Trying to establish a Soviet satellite 90 miles away from the United States in the middle of a Cold War was really stupid. We could've established a social democracy and improved the lives of most Cubans, but Castro wanted to immediately go full-bore into communism. When you're standing close, within the arm's length of an 800-pound gorilla it's stupid to offend him.

Castro could've gradually implemented some socialist policies without breaking ties with the US like many Western European nations have done. He didn't have to go Soviet, but he did and forced Cubans into a horrible situation, that is completely unnecessary.