Zone1 Why is it not politically correct to be critical of religions other than Christianity?

[alang1216]

You need to enlighten yourself to the teachings of Mohammed

From what I know, they are no worse than what is in the Bible.

 

[Votto]

From what I know, they are no worse than what is in the Bible.

That is like saying that Israel is the worst regime in the world that you hear on every college campus in the US.

Really?

Which country would they rather live in, Israel, or any Islamic country in the region?



This is not normal, yet no one says a word about it.

Why?

 

[Votto]

 

[Votto]

 

[alang1216]

That is like saying that Israel is the worst regime in the world that you hear on every college campus in the US.

Really?

Which country would they rather live in, Israel, or any Islamic country in the region?



This is not normal, yet no one says a word about it.

Why?

I've been to Muslim countries, they may be poor but the people are good and hospitable.

I don't know if I would want to be a Muslim in Israel.

 

[Votto]

I've been to Muslim countries, they may be poor but the people are good and hospitable.

I don't know if I would want to be a Muslim in Israel.

I agree, there are.

Watch the above video to better understand my position here.

As for wanting to live in Israel as a Muslim, Israel has a large Muslim population. They don't seem to mind. There are about 1.7 million Muslims living in Israel.

 

[presonorek]

The vast majority of people on this site are very critical of Christianity, but say virtually nothing about other religions. Somehow, being critical of other religions around the world is considered bigoted.

Why?

Maybe they have never encountered the sharp sociological forces demanding obeisance from Buddhist, Muslims, Hindus, Jainists, Jews, Shintoist, Zorastraism and Bahai. More than likely their experience to shame is encountered at the hands of Christians rather than those other religious people groups. That makes the most sense to me. They aren't trying to protect themselves from the others. They are trying to protect themselves from the hatred that Christians have for them for refusing to accept Christianity. If you had diabetes it wouldn't make sense to treat yourself for a brain tumor. Just like if you had a brain tumor it wouldn't make any sense to have open heart surgery. I think it makes a lot more sense then you are implying.

I have no problem with people being critical of anything really, even a faith that I profess. However, am I to be silent of other religions that deserve equal criticism?

The other religious groups are not equally deserving in criticism. If I frequently got sick every time I ate at Joe's Bar and Grill it would be unfair for me to warn people about the dangers of eating at Carl's Diner. I'd say that people shouldn't attack religions outside of Christianity unless they were being bullied, shamed, harassed, manipulated, or controlled by people from that religion. Make sense? I hope it makes sense to you but if not. Oh well.

 

[presonorek]

I suspect they just haven't gotten around to it yet.

I think that it is the wrong time in history to recruit via violence. They missed their chance.

 

[Votto]

Maybe they have never encountered the sharp sociological forces demanding obeisance from Buddhist, Muslims, Hindus, Jainists, Jews, Shintoist, Zorastraism and Bahai. More than likely their experience to shame is encountered at the hands of Christians rather than those other religious people groups. That makes the most sense to me. They aren't trying to protect themselves from the others. They are trying to protect themselves from the hatred that Christians have for them for refusing to accept Christianity. If you had diabetes it wouldn't make sense to treat yourself for a brain tumor. Just like if you had a brain tumor it wouldn't make any sense to have open heart surgery. I think it makes a lot more sense then you are implying.

The other religious groups are not equally deserving in criticism. If I frequently got sick every time I ate at Joe's Bar and Grill it would be unfair for me to warn people about the dangers of eating at Carl's Diner. I'd say that people shouldn't attack religions outside of Christianity unless they were being bullied, shamed, harassed, manipulated, or controlled by people from that religion. Make sense? I hope it makes sense to you but if not. Oh well.

It is better to compare and contrast the effects of any given ideology or religion has on a society, based on the results from that society.

As I have said, Islamic dominated nations are known for violence and oppression, much like how Marxist regimes murdered hundreds of millions more last century than this century than even Nazism. These nations lead the world in terrorism. Why? They also treat women as second-class citizens and gays as even less.

Both ideologies, when assessed in this manner, appear to be pure poison for humanity.

 

[presonorek]

It is better to compare and contrast the effects of any given ideology or religion has on a society, based on the results from that society.

As I have said, Islamic dominated nations are known for violence and oppression, much like how Marxist regimes murdered hundreds of millions more last century than this century than even Nazism. These nations lead the world in terrorism. Why? They also treat women as second-class citizens and gays as even less.

Both ideologies, when assessed in this manner, appear to be pure poison for humanity.

I've never been killed or oppressed by a Muslim. I have been controlled by Christians. There is no negative emotional connection to Muslims or Islam in my psyche. What you are saying is correct but when people criticize Christian for the crusades they aren't angry at blood shed. They are more likely angry that their childhood was robbed by a conspiracy of adults who told them that because they are human they are disgusting, filthy, horrible, rotten, and terrible and deserve to be tortured indefinitely with burning hot fire. That kind of psychological damage hits a little closer to home than a news report about a Muslim Cleric killing 2 billion people for refusing to convert to Islam. Unless a person experiences it first hand then they aren't going to have an emotional reaction to it therefore have no desire to attack it.

 

[BothWings]

I will tell you what is annoying. What is annoying is, if I posted this in either Canada or Europe I could be arrested for hate speech.

Meanwhile, Islamic protestors in the UK can spew antisemitic threatening verbiage toward Jews and nothing bad happens to them.

Why?

Are you not the least bit concerned?

I'm just answering an OP question pertaining to this board where I am a member. I'm not here to fuel things on a global level today.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

From what I know, they are no worse than what is in the Bible.

What do you know?
They are the polar opposite of the teachings of Christ

 

[Meriweather]

I've never been killed or oppressed by a Muslim. I have been controlled by Christians. There is no negative emotional connection to Muslims or Islam in my psyche. What you are saying is correct but when people criticize Christian for the crusades they aren't angry at blood shed. They are more likely angry that their childhood was robbed by a conspiracy of adults who told them that because they are human they are disgusting, filthy, horrible, rotten, and terrible and deserve to be tortured indefinitely with burning hot fire. That kind of psychological damage hits a little closer to home than a news report about a Muslim Cleric killing 2 billion people for refusing to convert to Islam. Unless a person experiences it first hand then they aren't going to have an emotional reaction to it therefore have no desire to attack it.

Specifically, how have you been controlled by Christians? As a child, were you actually told by Christians you are "disgusting, filthy, horrible, rotten, and terrible and deserve to be tortured indefinitely with burning hot fire" ? That's horrible. Keep in mind many Christian children are told the complete opposite.

 

[Foxfyre]

the 1st century events is the repudiation of judaism -

they opposed judaism's false commandments heavenly personifications, hereditary idolatry, religion of apartheid et al -

most of all jesus never claimed or the events of the 1st century that humanity is incapable of not sinning that all people sin their deeds will not bring to them their judgment when successful - they taught the opposite, to sin no more is the direct path to the everlasting as heavenly promised a&e who's choice they made is self determination than servitude and denial.

......

jesus never accused anyone of being a hopeless sinner and they need him to free their spirits - that is entirely 4th century christian bible written by the crucifiers for their own nefarious purposes and reason for centuries of turmoil.

I will choose not to discuss it with you Breezewood. Your prejudices and hatred for all things Christian are just too over the top to make it even reasonable to respond. But do have a great day.

 

[presonorek]

Specifically, how have you been controlled by Christians?

I have escaped. I don't let them control me anymore.

As a child, were you actually told by Christians you are "disgusting, filthy, horrible, rotten, and terrible and deserve to be tortured indefinitely with burning hot fire" ?

It is the doctrine of original sin. It is a doctrine that has been around for quite some time.

That's horrible.

I know.

Keep in mind many Christian children are told the complete opposite.

I grew up in the 80s in a Baptist Church. I'm surprised you are unaware of this very common type of psychological abuse. It doesn't go away when you become an adult. I still feel like inadequate scum all the time especially because I left the faith. As a Christian you are disgusting, filthy, horrible, rotten, and terrible and deserved to be tortured indefinitely with burning hot fire except that you have Jesus then it doesn't apply anymore. If you don't have any Jesus then you are really screwed.

The doctrine of original sin is very eloquent and convincing. When we watch the news and hear about horrific crimes that people commit we say, "How can someone do that?" The church answered that centuries ago. I honestly doubt you have never heard the concept of original sin but I will respond as if you haven't. Here it is: Original sin - Wikipedia

My pure hatred for all things Christian burns deep in my soul. No Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, or Jainist ever screwed my mind up. I have no emotional reaction to Muslims strapping bombs on their chest and killing 50 innocent kids. That has never happened to me. Having my mind, spirit, and soul destroyed by sincere people that didn't even have ill will towards me caused great psychological harm towards me just because that is how it was done last year, and the year before, and then the year before that. They weren't even trying to harm me. They were just following a tradition. I personally think the cycle of abuse should stop immediately and if I have to rant and rave a few times and it changes one mind then good.

 

[Meriweather]

I grew up in the 80s in a Baptist Church. I'm surprised you are unaware of this very common type of psychological abuse. It doesn't go away when you become an adult. I still feel like inadequate scum all the time especially because I left the faith. As a Christian you are disgusting, filthy, horrible, rotten, and terrible and deserved to be tortured indefinitely with burning hot fire except that you have Jesus then it doesn't apply anymore. If you don't have any Jesus then you are really screwed.

The doctrine of original sin is very eloquent and convincing. When we watch the news and hear about horrific crimes that people commit we say, "How can someone do that?" The church answered that centuries ago. I honestly doubt you have never heard the concept of original sin but I will respond as if you haven't. Here it is: Original sin

I am Catholic and very familiar with original sin--just not the way Baptists apparently teach it. Nor we ever taught that because of original sin people were disgusting, filth, horrible, rotten, scum. Quite the opposite. We were taught mankind's desire to know both right and wrong led to original sin and why we are prone to sin. We were taught repentance (turning away from sin) led to forgiveness, and that Christ redeemed all of mankind.

 

[BreezeWood]

I will choose not to discuss it with you Breezewood. Your prejudices and hatred for all things Christian are just too over the top to make it even reasonable to respond. But do have a great day.

what is it ...

you make self appealing allegations then run away -

provide the etched tablets w/ the judaism commandments claimed by the liar moses that never existed written in your 4th century christian bible you use to persecute and victimize the innocent before you accuse others of prejudices and hatred.

 

[BreezeWood]

... and that Christ redeemed all of mankind.

jesus did not respond to the jewish tribunal accusing him of claiming to be a messiah that is why they crucified him.

the message of the 1st century events from beginning to end is self determination, to sin no more - as the means for admission to the everlasting.

 

[SweetSue92]

The vast majority of people on this site are very critical of Christianity, but say virtually nothing about other religions. Somehow, being critical of other religions around the world is considered bigoted.

Why?

I have no problem with people being critical of anything really, even a faith that I profess. However, am I to be silent of other religions that deserve equal criticism? Christians here are often harassed about theology from the Holy books that may say something about animal sacrifice or slavery that happened thousands of years ago but are not practiced today or why you can eat pork now but now in times past, etc.

Is that fair? Don't get me wrong, these questions should be asked and answered but really, questions should also be more centered on what you believe and practice today. How you live and think is the measure of your faith, and not what people have done in the past.

This leads me to Islam. There are virtually no threads on these boards about being critical of Islam, even though Islam dominates a great deal of the world today as it seems to grow every year. As a result, I think it dangerous to turn a blind eye to all the changes going on around us thanks to this world religion.

Here is a taste of who Islam is slowly taking over the world

Formerly Christian Countries That Are Now Muslim

1. Turkey (formerly the Byzantine Empire): Once the center of Eastern Orthodox Christianity, now over 99% Muslim. Turkey is also one of several countries where the “ethnic cleansing” of Christians took place during the Muslim takeover.

2. Egypt: A Christian-majority nation before the Arab conquests, now over 90% Muslim. Egypt also experienced the “ethnic cleansing” of some of its Christian population. See Western Media Ignores Slaughter of Coptic Woman and Men by Muslim Brotherhood.

3. Syria: Historically home to one of the oldest Christian communities, now majority Muslim, due in part to “ethnic cleansing.”

4. Iraq: Once a Christian heartland, now overwhelmingly Muslim, with a persecuted and sometimes “ethnically cleansed” Christian minority.

5. North African Nations (Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco): Formerly Christian under the Roman Empire, now predominantly Muslim, where “ethnic cleansing” has and continues to take place.

6. Bosnia and Herzegovina: Formerly part of Christian Eastern Europe, now about 50% Muslim where “mass violence” against Christians took place.

7. Albania: Converted to Islam under Ottoman rule, remains largely Muslim today.

8. Azerbaijan: Before the Islamic conquests, Azerbaijan was a predominantly Christian region, influenced by the Persian Empire and the Byzantine Empire. Now it is 97% Muslim.

But how will this change the world? Watch this video to get a taste.

For a couple of reasons I think. First, the Woke have, even before the term "Woke" existed, love them some melanin and fancy outfits. (I'm only being a little facetious.) So, say, Islam, Hindu, etc--these come from different people who dress cool and are "diverse".

Secondly, from my faith perspective: they feel driven to attack the religion that's true. Why waste time on a counterfeit?

 

[SweetSue92]

I've been to Muslim countries, they may be poor but the people are good and hospitable.

I don't know if I would want to be a Muslim in Israel.

Here's a perfect example of what I just typed