Zone1 Why is it not politically correct to be critical of religions other than Christianity?

[Crepitus]

I think that it is the wrong time in history to recruit via violence. They missed their chance.

We can hope.

 

[Crepitus]

Christians tend to openly push their beliefs more than any other religions instead of just living it. This site is plastered with pro-Christian threads daily. Where are the Jewish ones? Muslim? Hindu? Buddhist? Native American? Pagan? Other?

I am not "anti-Christian"!

I could find something to criticize about any of the others, but none of these others are constantly posting their ideas on here. If they were I'd find them just as annoying. This site seems to be a haven for a Christians who like to mix their religion with politics, however many of us on here are of other faiths, are atheists, or just don't care. The multitude of preachy Christians on here are inviting that vacuum of unwelcome-ness on themselves.

Where are the Jewish ones? Muslim? Hindu? Buddhist? Native American? Pagan? Other?

Likely it's because they are afraid some christian group will attack them for it.

 

[BreezeWood]

Secondly, from my faith perspective: they feel driven to attack the religion that's true. Why waste time on a counterfeit?

all three desert religions have the same deceptive preamble, false commandments humanities beginning written into their bibles making all three bibles forgeries and false religions.

 

[BothWings]

all three desert religions have the same deceptive preamble, false commandments humanities beginning written into their bibles making all three bibles forgeries and false religions.

It would appear the first book asserts it's people as the chosen ones, the second one asserts that it's people are the Holy soldiers that protect the first ones, and third one are the evil ones that justifies the first the two. Very convenient for the people of the first book.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

The vast majority of people on this site are very critical of Christianity, but say virtually nothing about other religions. Somehow, being critical of other religions around the world is considered bigoted.

Why?

I have no problem with people being critical of anything really, even a faith that I profess. However, am I to be silent of other religions that deserve equal criticism? Christians here are often harassed about theology from the Holy books that may say something about animal sacrifice or slavery that happened thousands of years ago but are not practiced today or why you can eat pork now but now in times past, etc.

Is that fair? Don't get me wrong, these questions should be asked and answered but really, questions should also be more centered on what you believe and practice today. How you live and think is the measure of your faith, and not what people have done in the past.

This leads me to Islam. There are virtually no threads on these boards about being critical of Islam, even though Islam dominates a great deal of the world today as it seems to grow every year. As a result, I think it dangerous to turn a blind eye to all the changes going on around us thanks to this world religion.

Here is a taste of who Islam is slowly taking over the world

Formerly Christian Countries That Are Now Muslim

1. Turkey (formerly the Byzantine Empire): Once the center of Eastern Orthodox Christianity, now over 99% Muslim. Turkey is also one of several countries where the “ethnic cleansing” of Christians took place during the Muslim takeover.

2. Egypt: A Christian-majority nation before the Arab conquests, now over 90% Muslim. Egypt also experienced the “ethnic cleansing” of some of its Christian population. See Western Media Ignores Slaughter of Coptic Woman and Men by Muslim Brotherhood.

3. Syria: Historically home to one of the oldest Christian communities, now majority Muslim, due in part to “ethnic cleansing.”

4. Iraq: Once a Christian heartland, now overwhelmingly Muslim, with a persecuted and sometimes “ethnically cleansed” Christian minority.

5. North African Nations (Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco): Formerly Christian under the Roman Empire, now predominantly Muslim, where “ethnic cleansing” has and continues to take place.

6. Bosnia and Herzegovina: Formerly part of Christian Eastern Europe, now about 50% Muslim where “mass violence” against Christians took place.

7. Albania: Converted to Islam under Ottoman rule, remains largely Muslim today.

8. Azerbaijan: Before the Islamic conquests, Azerbaijan was a predominantly Christian region, influenced by the Persian Empire and the Byzantine Empire. Now it is 97% Muslim.

But how will this change the world? Watch this video to get a taste.

I think all religions should be tossed in the trash heap as being detrimental to the further evolution of mankind. They served a purpose centuries ago to keep people in check to relieve emperors and kings of having to execute as many people as they otherwise would have to.

While Christianity is cray cray, Islam is even more so, what with a prophet who was a mass murderer (as was God) who was whisked to heaven on a winged creature (no news of where heaven was and how he breathed in outer space). But, like Christianity, it was/is good for the sexual pervert men who could lay claim to nubile young virgins in the name of Allah.

That aside, the United States is more heavily populated with Christians than Muslims, so it makes little sense to criticize a religion practiced by very few. If the Democrats stayed in office, I think America would turn Muslim in a decade, what with their crazy notions that multiculturalism is good.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

It would appear the first book asserts it's people as the chosen ones, the second one asserts that it's people are the Holy soldiers that protect the first ones, and third one are the evil ones that justifies the first the two. Very convenient for the people of the first book.

I find it odd that no one questions why the inventors of religion conveniently make their tribe the chosen one, and men have power over females, and then the men who run the church have power over humans.

Nothing to see HERE, folks. Run along now.

 

[BothWings]

I find it odd that no one questions why the inventors of religion conveniently make their tribe the chosen one, and men have power over females, and then the men who run the church have power over humans.

Nothing to see HERE, folks. Run along now.

I think stems from ancient times like the first empires such as Egypt. If you look at the Egyptian fascination with pyramids, that also applied to their social structure. In the capstone were the Pharaohs and government officials who worked closely with them to set the agenda of the empire. After that were the priests, the ones who actually created the mystic lore to be passed down to the lower classes. After them with the scribes, the ones who actually wrote holy scriptures and put it into words for the lower classes. Everyone beneath that had rapidly descending levels of importance and nobility. By the time you got to the bottom nobody had any idea what was really the agenda of the people at the top. And it's very obvious that most of the world's religions are like that in some way. At some point Egypt began to fall as an empire but many of their ideas were brought to Europe and elsewhere in various mystery schools. We have them to think for most of the religious control in the world. I believe the Greeks were the first ones to plunder the Egyptian empire and bring those ideas back to the Eurasian zone. They were probably the ones to to begin exploiting the Egyptian pyramid social structure as a template for the religious rule of the next several thousand years. And remember there were other pyramid obsessed cultures all throughout the world which built empires at the expense of the lower classes and slaves in their society. Same goes for feudal Europe under the Christian church. It's sickening. And of course that's how it got to America, through European aristocracy and their buddies in the church.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

I think stems from ancient times like the first empires such as Egypt. If you look at the Egyptian fascination with pyramids, that also applied to their social structure. In the capstone were the Pharaohs and government officials who worked closely with them to set the agenda of the empire. After that were the priests, the ones who actually created the mystic lore to be passed down to the lower classes. After them with the scribes, the ones who actually wrote holy scriptures and put it into words for the lower classes. Everyone beneath that had rapidly descending levels of importance and nobility. By the time you got to the bottom nobody had any idea what was really the agenda of the people at the top. And it's very obvious that most of the world's religions are like that in some way. At some point Egypt began to fall as an empire but many of their ideas were brought to Europe and elsewhere in various mystery schools. We have them to think for most of the religious control in the world. I believe the Greeks were the first ones to plunder the Egyptian empire and bring those ideas back to the Eurasian zone. They were probably the ones to to begin exploiting the Egyptian pyramid social structure as a template for the religious rule of the next several thousand years. And remember there were other pyramid obsessed cultures all throughout the world which built empires at the expense of the lower classes and slaves in their society. Same goes for feudal Europe under the Christian church. It's sickening. And of course that's how it got to America, through European aristocracy and their buddies in the church.

Very interesting and all true. Tracks with my research on how and why people are extremely easy to be indoctrinated. It started with the cavemen and continues today at warp speed, orchestrated by politicians who have way too much power and money who use their media propagandists to repeat lies over and over until they stick and then the gain or keep power and the money that goes with it.

Your pyramid illustration is on the mark as well and a guy who was a top MLM producer gave a fascinating class on why MultiLevel marketing is so difficult. The top 1% make lots of money because everyone under them is working for them and they get a piece of everyone's efforts, like emperors, kings and politicians. The top 5% do very well and that is because they work their asses off. Then you get all those in the middle, some of whom just dabble in it. The lower 5% and 1% are those who don't do much of anything, allowing everyone else to do the heavy lifting and resenting those at the top for having too much.

 

[PeterPilot]

I am critical of all religions. Organized religion is the bane of humanity.

As far as I know, And I have looked, there is only one religion that has never killed or marginalized people of different religions, races or opinions, and that is Jainism.

And I suspect they just haven't gotten around to it yet.

I very much agree with you on that, but I am also a strong supporter of the First Amendment. For some people religion is a stabilizing force, and that's OK by me. Religion must be allowed, but the government must be neutral on all matters religious.

While in the early days of the Republic there were signs and hints that we tended towards Christian theocracy, during the last 50 years or more we tend towards a Jewish theocracy. Under Trump (along with state governors like DeSantis and Abbott) we have become a de facto Jewish theocracy.

 

[hobelim]

Yes. Christianity teaches that all sin and fall short

What type of salvation is that? Your entire religion is sinful. Celebrating human sacrifice, worshipping a trinity, desecrating the Body of Christ by teaching people it can be handed out and eaten like a cheap snack food. Derp.


To commit sin is to break Gods law; sin, in fact, is lawlessness. Christ appeared, as you know, to do away with sins, and there is no sin in him. No man, therefore, who dwells in him is a sinner. The sinner has not seen him and does not know him.

My children, do not be misled; it is the man who does what is right who is righteous, as God is righteous; the man who sins is a child of the devil, for the devil has been a sinner from the first; and there Son of God appeared for the very purpose of undoing the devils work.

A child of God does not commit sin, because the divine seed remain in him; he cannot be a sinner, because he is Gods child. That is the distinction between the children of God and the children of the devil: no one who does not do what is right is God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love his brother.

1 John 3:4-10

 

[Foxfyre]

What type of salvation is that? Your entire religion is sinful. Celebrating human sacrifice, worshipping a trinity, desecrating the Body of Christ by teaching people it can be handed out and eaten like a cheap snack food. Derp.


To commit sin is to break Gods law; sin, in fact, is lawlessness. Christ appeared, as you know, to do away with sins, and there is no sin in him. No man, therefore, who dwells in him is a sinner. The sinner has not seen him and does not know him.

My children, do not be misled; it is the man who does what is right who is righteous, as God is righteous; the man who sins is a child of the devil, for the devil has been a sinner from the first; and there Son of God appeared for the very purpose of undoing the devils work.

A child of God does not commit sin, because the divine seed remain in him; he cannot be a sinner, because he is Gods child. That is the distinction between the children of God and the children of the devil: no one who does not do what is right is God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love his brother.

1 John 3:4-10

You can proof text until the cows come home and it won't change the truth of my post. But do have a lovely day.

 

[BackAgain]

I say this much. I am not inclined to be a religious scholar. Nonetheless, I did read the Qu’ran way back when. And the Islamic faithful are way to lo content with physically opposing the words and beliefs of non Muslims.

Some folks are afraid of stirring them up. Why, they might even try to kill a cartoonist over an image of the alleged “prophet Mohammed” being depicted as an old fashioned bomb. So, it’s safer to denigrate Christianity which teaches something very different than Islam: turn the other cheek, live the neighbor, forgiveness.

 

[hobelim]

You can proof text until the cows come home and it won't change the truth of my post. But do have a lovely day.

The only truth in your post is Christians believe that all people sin. According to Scripture a child of God does not commit sin. Jesus appeared to do away with sins. The sinner hasn't seen him and doesn't know him. Thats you.

The wages of sin are death, a curse. Jesus didn't appear to become a human sacrifice so that "believers" who celebrate his crucifixion can sin with impunity for life derp. Do you have any idea how reprehensible that belief is?

No? You love Jesus, an innocent sinless man, so much because you profess to 'believe" that he paid the penalty for YOUR SINS so you don't have to die "the death"? You might as well try to convince people that you love the unfortunate patsy who was executed instead of you who openly sins, and teaches others to do the same, which amounts to murder in the same way that Jesus meant by saying Satan was a murderer from the beginning.

What a gal!

Enjoy your delusions!

And some people wonder why others don't accept your ridiculous false claim to salvation and moral authority.

Damn.

 

[Crepitus]

I very much agree with you on that, but I am also a strong supporter of the First Amendment. For some people religion is a stabilizing force, and that's OK by me. Religion must be allowed, but the government must be neutral on all matters religious.

While in the early days of the Republic there were signs and hints that we tended towards Christian theocracy, during the last 50 years or more we tend towards a Jewish theocracy. Under Trump (along with state governors like DeSantis and Abbott) we have become a de facto Jewish theocracy.

Oh, I agree. Everyone deserves the chance to go to hell in their own way. It's none of my business.

But nothing says I have to be quiet about it.

 

[BreezeWood]

You can proof text until the cows come home and it won't change the truth of my post. But do have a lovely day.

proof only must be your own inability not to sin ... greed lust selfishness - have you ever tried to at liest become even a slightly better human being than your past history.

* jesus helps those who help themselves.

 

[PeterPilot]

Oh, I agree. Everyone deserves the chance to go to hell in their own way. It's none of my business.

But nothing says I have to be quiet about it.

Hell is on earth. Heaven too.

 

[Votto]

I think all religions should be tossed in the trash heap as being detrimental to the further evolution of mankind. They served a purpose centuries ago to keep people in check to relieve emperors and kings of having to execute as many people as they otherwise would have to.

While Christianity is cray cray, Islam is even more so, what with a prophet who was a mass murderer (as was God) who was whisked to heaven on a winged creature (no news of where heaven was and how he breathed in outer space). But, like Christianity, it was/is good for the sexual pervert men who could lay claim to nubile young virgins in the name of Allah.

That aside, the United States is more heavily populated with Christians than Muslims, so it makes little sense to criticize a religion practiced by very few. If the Democrats stayed in office, I think America would turn Muslim in a decade, what with their crazy notions that multiculturalism is good.

But most view Islam as an equal to Christianity or any other religion.

It is not. Islam is pure political conquest and oppression as it seems just fine until it reaches that end stage in a country. But by then, it is too late.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

But most view Islam as an equal to Christianity or any other religion.

It is not. Islam is pure political conquest and oppression as it seems just fine until it reaches that end stage in a country. But by then, it is too late.

From the transcript:

What is the penalty for apostasy? Um before you very well know if it's an Islamic country, then it is very clear apostate is dealt with the death penalty.

Now let's compare this with Christianity, where in the Middle Ages, Catholics ruled the world and created blasphemy laws. When people violated them, they were first tortured and then violently killed. Now, some will say that was then and this is now. Well, now we have tens of millions of people who assert that nonbelievers will find out when they die that the penalty for nonbelief is eternal torture or banishment.

THAT is how you control and indoctrinate humanity.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Likely it's because they are afraid some christian group will attack them for it.

You are wrong no matter what you post about. I am as anti-Christian as anyone, but it is fashionable today to criticize Christianity because the left has taken over the microphones. The left loves Hamas and Iran and would never want to live there, and rarely if ever talks about how ridiculous their religion is.

 

[Zebra]

is it politically incorrect to find the Burka a revolting and perverse idea?