Zone1 Why is it not politically correct to be critical of religions other than Christianity?

John 18:36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”

This has always been the case, but just because your kingdom is in another world does not mean your adherents here on Earth cannot fight to uphold your cause.

In the 12th century, Christians held The Crusades in fighting the advancements of the Muslims. The Muslims never stopped fighting, they are after all a vehicle still living in the 12th century, but Christians have. They have lost the will to defend themselves or even their own church.
 
This has always been the case, but just because your kingdom is in another world does not mean your adherents here on Earth cannot fight to uphold your cause.

In the 12th century, Christians held The Crusades in fighting the advancements of the Muslims. The Muslims never stopped fighting, they are after all a vehicle still living in the 12th century, but Christians have. They have lost the will to defend themselves or even their own church.
Marching to the Holy Land while murdering Jews along the way and then murdering more in the Holy Land and then looting it, is not generally what is called defending your territory. So, for that, I have to call a spade a spade.

That is not to say that some did not genuinely fight to protect their family and land.

Don't get me wrong, I am not a pacifist, and neither was Jesus as we saw with him whipping moneychangers in the temple.

The Knights of the Templar were so wealthy, they had more wealth than the human king that ruled over them, so that king came for the loot eventually. Trouble is, it all disappeared and no one seems to know where.

There are theories, like some of all of it being buried on Oak Island.

 
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I guess that what has troubled me the most of late is how the US is changing as Islam infiltrates the US.

For example, I would never have imagined that I would ever see American students chanting, "Gas the Jews" at universities around the US.

These students should have instantly been expelled, but no.



We need to face the fact that the Left has joined sides with Islam. The Left purports to stand up for Jews as a minority, but in reality, they do not. The more Islam takes over the US, like they have American universities, the more you will see them turn a blind eye to people being persecuted as we have seen Jewish students at Columbia hide in attics at their local university for safety, as the University does nothing to protect them or expel those responsible for making them feel like they had to hide for dear life.

This is why you see groups of gays in San Fran march in solidarity with Hamas, even though the fact remains that those same gays would have been thrown off the roofs of building by Hamas had they visited Gaza but remain safe in Israel.

This unholy alliance with the Left and Hamas makes sense in the fact that both are really only after political power. What they both want is unquestioned centralized powers to rule and reign over people, that will cause a great deal of oppression and death around the world. The scary part is that there are a long list of US Congressmen that cannot even condemn 10/7, as innocent women and children were targeted for rape and torture and death. Again, I never dreamed I would be seeing any of this.

The fact is that most tyrants in modern history have been drawn to Marxism, or socialism, or communism, but never fully living up to all it's tenants. Why? Because for those systems to have a remote chance of working, the state needs unprecedented control over the populace, all in the name of social justice. And when we look at regimes like Iran, we see the exact same thing.

Speaking of social justice, the Left engages in their own version of jihad as they burn down Tesla dealerships or try to assassinate political foes. It's just open vigilantism until they obtain power. Sadly, most who engage in such activity are the mentally ill or those of a lower IQ, or even children told to put on suicide vests to go explode themselves on sidewalks like they do in the Middle East.
 
I am critical of all religions. Organized religion is the bane of humanity.

As far as I know, And I have looked, there is only one religion that has never killed or marginalized people of different religions, races or opinions, and that is Jainism.

And I suspect they just haven't gotten around to it yet.
Christianity is responsible for a great many good things

For example, the first hospitals and universities were opened by Christians. In fact, charity for the poor and helpless and uneducated continue to be a focus today, as most charities are Christian based as the majority of people who give their time and money to the poor today are those of faith.


I will preface that by saying that most Christians who are practicing their faith give more of their time and money to the poor.

In addition, most practicing Christians have a much lower divorce rate than on average


And lastly, those who regularly attend church are happier and live longer than the average person.

 
Are you woke OP?
Woke means praising or condemning a certain group of people based on race, sex, or religions preference and all based on political agendas and not the truth, so no.

The truth is far too offensive.

As for Muslims in general, the vast majority are just fine. In fact, I have a friend who is Muslim. who is from Africa. He said that he was far too moderate and was persecuted there because of it, which is why he came to America.

I am in no way trying to demonize Muslims. My attempt is to show how Islam based societies tend to gravitate towards centralized authoritarian dictatorships

It's like the dark ages of Christion theocracy. It is not a demonization of the Christians as it is the theocracy that followed.

But as I said, Islam simply refuses to separate religion from politics, Sharia law demands it.

To sum up, Islam is the Pitt Bull of religions. The vast majority of Pitt Bulls are just fine as their owners swear by them. However, if you hear of a dog killing a human being, 9 times out of 10, it is a Pitt Bull. Why? Because they were bread to kill even though most don't. The poison of jihad and mandatory Sharia law is that training.

And here I thought that the Left understood the necessity of a separation of church and state.
 
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Christians tend to openly push their beliefs more than any other religions instead of just living it. This site is plastered with pro-Christian threads daily. Where are the Jewish ones? Muslim? Hindu? Buddhist? Native American? Pagan? Other?

I am not "anti-Christian"!

I could find something to criticize about any of the others, but none of these others are constantly posting their ideas on here. If they were I'd find them just as annoying. This site seems to be a haven for a Christians who like to mix their religion with politics, however many of us on here are of other faiths, are atheists, or just don't care. The multitude of preachy Christians on here are inviting that vacuum of unwelcome-ness on themselves.
 
Jesus opposed the tyranny of certain Jews who were doing evil. He certainly did not oppose Judaism itself.

the 1st century events is the repudiation of judaism -

they opposed judaism's false commandments heavenly personifications, hereditary idolatry, religion of apartheid et al -

most of all jesus never claimed or the events of the 1st century that humanity is incapable of not sinning that all people sin their deeds will not bring to them their judgment when successful - they taught the opposite, to sin no more is the direct path to the everlasting as heavenly promised a&e who's choice they made is self determination than servitude and denial.

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jesus never accused anyone of being a hopeless sinner and they need him to free their spirits - that is entirely 4th century christian bible written by the crucifiers for their own nefarious purposes and reason for centuries of turmoil.
 
Christianity is responsible for a great many good things

For example, the first hospitals and universities were opened by Christians. In fact, charity for the poor and helpless and uneducated continue to be a focus today, as most charities are Christian based as the majority of people who give their time and money to the poor today are those of faith.


I will preface that by saying that most Christians who are practicing their faith give more of their time and money to the poor.

In addition, most practicing Christians have a much lower divorce rate than on average


And lastly, those who regularly attend church are happier and live longer than the average person.

And Islam gave us math and many sciences.

None of it is worth the pain they have caused through the millennia.
 
Christians tend to openly push their beliefs more than any other religions instead of just living it. This site is plastered with pro-Christian threads daily. Where are the Jewish ones? Muslim? Hindu? Buddhist? Native American? Pagan? Other?

I am not "anti-Christian"!

I could find something to criticize about any of the others, but none of these others are constantly posting their ideas on here. If they were I'd find them just as annoying. This site seems to be a haven for a Christians who like to mix their religion with politics, however many of us on here are of other faiths, are atheists, or just don't care. The multitude of preachy Christians on here are inviting that vacuum of unwelcome-ness on themselves.
There are usually two or three Muslim threads up and running here at any given time. We also have several posters of the the Jewish faith, we do have threads interspersed as well. It's possible that one has to be familiar with this forum to recognize the names of posters of Muslim, Jewish, and other faiths to find the threads they start or in those they post. Atheists are also abundant.
 
There are usually two or three Muslim threads up and running here at any given time. We also have several posters of the the Jewish faith, we do have threads interspersed as well. It's possible that one has to be familiar with this forum to recognize the names of posters of Muslim, Jewish, and other faiths to find the threads they start or in those they post. Atheists are also abundant.
Gee, I just searched for threads under "Muslim", "Islam" and "Mohammed". Nothing much turned up at all...and when I say "nothing" I mean no threads that are BY Muslims FOR Muslims. Feel free to dig up some of these "up and running" Muslim threads and show us.
 
Gee, I just searched for threads under "Muslim", "Islam" and "Mohammed". Nothing much turned up at all...and when I say "nothing" I mean no threads that are BY Muslims FOR Muslims. Feel free to dig up some of these "up and running" Muslim threads and show us.
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Thanks for proving my point. 5 threads, several of which have been around for quite awhile. There are new Christian threads popping up in the feed EVERY day, and many Christian posters CONSTANTLY feel the need to bring religion into political discussions. The Christian "voice" here far outweighs any other and is constantly being thrown around with authority, even in threads which are not about religion. So I rest my case. THIS is why some people have a negative attitude toward them. Although I occasionally find it annoying, I am not one of those people who attack them for it. I find religions interesting even when I don't agree. Normally I just learn and keep my mouth shut or go away. But it's obvious that Christians have a VERY loud, almost nagging voice on this site and some people are vocal about their disdain for it. So if the question is why do they catch heat? THAT is why.

5 Muslim threads in 3 years isn't even in the same ballpark as what the Christians express here.
 
Thanks for proving my point. 5 threads, several of which have been around for quite awhile. There are new Christian threads popping up in the feed EVERY day, and many Christian posters CONSTANTLY feel the need to bring religion into political discussions. The Christian "voice" here far outweighs any other and is constantly being thrown around with authority, even in threads which are not about religion. So I rest my case. THIS is why some people have a negative attitude toward them. Although I occasionally find it annoying, I am not one of those people who attack them for it. I find religions interesting even when I don't agree. Normally I just learn and keep my mouth shut or go away. But it's obvious that Christians have a VERY loud, almost nagging voice on this site and some people are vocal about their disdain for it. So if the question is why do they catch heat? THAT is why.

5 Muslim threads in 3 years isn't even in the same ballpark as what the Christians express here.
First, I only went back two pages--not even an entire year. Second, I've never posted in the political forum, so I don't know what goes on there. I suspect it may have something to do with the Religion and Ethics forum being Zone 1, which I, personally have never been in favor of. Third, people find threads that are of interest to them. People of all religions/faiths (an of no religion/faith) are welcome to post as many threads as they like, in as many threads as they like.
 
First, I only went back two pages--not even an entire year. Second, I've never posted in the political forum, so I don't know what goes on there. I suspect it may have something to do with the Religion and Ethics forum being Zone 1, which I, personally have never been in favor of. Third, people find threads that are of interest to them. People of all religions/faiths (an of no religion/faith) are welcome to post as many threads as they like, in as many threads as they like.
All one has to do is watch the daily feed of new posts. Christian interests loudly eclipse all other religions by a long shot and often seek to mix religion and politics. You don't even have to do a search. They find YOU.
 
The vast majority of people on this site are very critical of Christianity, but say virtually nothing about other religions. Somehow, being critical of other religions around the world is considered bigoted.

Why?

I have no problem with people being critical of anything really, even a faith that I profess. However, am I to be silent of other religions that deserve equal criticism? Christians here are often harassed about theology from the Holy books that may say something about animal sacrifice or slavery that happened thousands of years ago but are not practiced today or why you can eat pork now but now in times past, etc.

Is that fair? Don't get me wrong, these questions should be asked and answered but really, questions should also be more centered on what you believe and practice today. How you live and think is the measure of your faith, and not what people have done in the past.

This leads me to Islam. There are virtually no threads on these boards about being critical of Islam, even though Islam dominates a great deal of the world today as it seems to grow every year. As a result, I think it dangerous to turn a blind eye to all the changes going on around us thanks to this world religion.

Here is a taste of who Islam is slowly taking over the world

Formerly Christian Countries That Are Now Muslim

1. Turkey (formerly the Byzantine Empire): Once the center of Eastern Orthodox Christianity, now over 99% Muslim. Turkey is also one of several countries where the “ethnic cleansing” of Christians took place during the Muslim takeover.

2. Egypt: A Christian-majority nation before the Arab conquests, now over 90% Muslim. Egypt also experienced the “ethnic cleansing” of some of its Christian population. See Western Media Ignores Slaughter of Coptic Woman and Men by Muslim Brotherhood.

3. Syria: Historically home to one of the oldest Christian communities, now majority Muslim, due in part to “ethnic cleansing.”

4. Iraq: Once a Christian heartland, now overwhelmingly Muslim, with a persecuted and sometimes “ethnically cleansed” Christian minority.

5. North African Nations (Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco): Formerly Christian under the Roman Empire, now predominantly Muslim, where “ethnic cleansing” has and continues to take place.

6. Bosnia and Herzegovina: Formerly part of Christian Eastern Europe, now about 50% Muslim where “mass violence” against Christians took place.

7. Albania: Converted to Islam under Ottoman rule, remains largely Muslim today.

8. Azerbaijan: Before the Islamic conquests, Azerbaijan was a predominantly Christian region, influenced by the Persian Empire and the Byzantine Empire. Now it is 97% Muslim.

But how will this change the world? Watch this video to get a taste.



Wrong.
The 8 places you mentioned have nothing to do with Isalm actually.
Islam was by Arabs like Mohammed, around 650 AD.

The 8 places you mention, like Turkey, were invaded by the Mongols around 1200 AD and later by other Asians like Turks.
Nothing at all to do with Moslem Arabs.

And why would anyone like the fact Rome has invaded and taken over Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, etc.
It is good they broke free from Roman domination.
But they certainly had nothing to do with Arab Moslems.
They were Berbers and Moors.
 
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Christians tend to openly push their beliefs more than any other religions instead of just living it. This site is plastered with pro-Christian threads daily. Where are the Jewish ones? Muslim? Hindu? Buddhist? Native American? Pagan? Other?

I am not "anti-Christian"!

I could find something to criticize about any of the others, but none of these others are constantly posting their ideas on here. If they were I'd find them just as annoying. This site seems to be a haven for a Christians who like to mix their religion with politics, however many of us on here are of other faiths, are atheists, or just don't care. The multitude of preachy Christians on here are inviting that vacuum of unwelcome-ness on themselves.
I will tell you what is annoying. What is annoying is, if I posted this in either Canada or Europe I could be arrested for hate speech.

Meanwhile, Islamic protestors in the UK can spew antisemitic threatening verbiage toward Jews and nothing bad happens to them.

Why?

Are you not the least bit concerned?
 
Wrong.
The 8 places you mentioned have nothing to do with Isalm actually.
Islam was by Arabs like Mohammed, around 650 AD.

The 8 places you mention, like Turkey, were invaded by the Mongols around 1200 AD and later by other Asians like Turks.
Nothing at all to do with Moslem Arabs.

And why would anyone like the fact Rome has invaded and taken over Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, etc.
It is good they broke free from Roman domination.
But they certainly had nothing to do with Arab Moslems.
They were Berbers and Moors.
You apparently are not following along too well.

The places I mentioned have converted predominantly to Islam and were previously a Christian based population.

And once the population becomes predominantly Islamic, in comes the government of their choosing, like those in Gaza voting in Hamas to govern them.
 
All one has to do is watch the daily feed of new posts. Christian interests loudly eclipse all other religions by a long shot and often seek to mix religion and politics. You don't even have to do a search. They find YOU.
I find it a healthy thing to be critical of both religion and politics. Why? Because both have to do with how people should think and behave and inevitably there will be those in power to force you to think and behave a certain way.

Currently in the US, the Left has assumed power. In fact, Leftism is perhaps the most successful religion of this era. They now preach their beliefs in public schools as children are taught about their gender cult which has led to a 4000% increase in gender confusion amongst children. Now children can undergo sex changes, even before being old enough to even have sex.

And this is the result.



The Left, however, is largely held unaccountable and continue to teach their gender cult, even with Trump as President.

Sadly, the church seems to be silent about this particular issue. They too have become PC in large part.
 
I believe Christianity is no better or worse than any other religion. What I have an issue with is when someone confuses an Islamic culture with Islam itself. They generally compare the worst of Islamic actions with the best of Christian actions.
You need to enlighten yourself to the teachings of Mohammed
 
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