Why I Rejected 'Identity Politics' and 'White Nationalism'

[Mac1958]

This fellow should resign immediately.'Master race' comment by Kansas county commissioner draws calls for his resignation

Incredible.

This report cuts right to his comments, and shows a quick interview after: White Kansas official tells black woman he belongs to 'master race'

He wasn't kidding when he said that. And there are people here who will claim that this stuff no longer exists.
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[MacTheKnife]

This fellow should resign immediately.'Master race' comment by Kansas county commissioner draws calls for his resignation

Incredible.

This report cuts right to his comments, and shows a quick interview after: White Kansas official tells black woman he belongs to 'master race'

He wasn't kidding when he said that. And there are people here who will claim that this stuff no longer exists.
.

Oh merci, merci......................in a nutshell...how this lost fellow and the others like him think..................

I’m riddled with shame. White shame. This isn’t helpful to me or to anyone, especially people of color. I feel like there is no “me” outside of my white/upper middle class/cisgender identity. I feel like my literal existence hurts people, like I’m always taking up space that should belong to someone else.

I consider myself an ally. I research proper etiquette, read writers of color, vote in a way that will not harm P.O.C. (and other vulnerable people). I engage in conversations about privilege with other white people. I take courses that will further educate me. I donated to Black Lives Matter. Yet I fear that nothing is enough. Part of my fear comes from the fact that privilege is invisible to itself. What if I’m doing or saying insensitive things without realizing it?

 

[Mac1958]

This fellow should resign immediately.'Master race' comment by Kansas county commissioner draws calls for his resignation

Incredible.

This report cuts right to his comments, and shows a quick interview after: White Kansas official tells black woman he belongs to 'master race'

He wasn't kidding when he said that. And there are people here who will claim that this stuff no longer exists.
.

Oh merci, merci......................in a nutshell...how this lost fellow and the others like him think..................

I’m riddled with shame. White shame. This isn’t helpful to me or to anyone, especially people of color. I feel like there is no “me” outside of my white/upper middle class/cisgender identity. I feel like my literal existence hurts people, like I’m always taking up space that should belong to someone else.

I consider myself an ally. I research proper etiquette, read writers of color, vote in a way that will not harm P.O.C. (and other vulnerable people). I engage in conversations about privilege with other white people. I take courses that will further educate me. I donated to Black Lives Matter. Yet I fear that nothing is enough. Part of my fear comes from the fact that privilege is invisible to itself. What if I’m doing or saying insensitive things without realizing it?

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[EvilCat Breath]

Alas, Jim, I suspect it's too late. Those who seek to divide this country into narcissistic competing pieces have been at this for decades, and it's part of our culture now.

Once a cancer like this has metastasized into the culture, it's damn near impossible to eradicate.

We're becoming a very different country, and some seem to be very pleased about that.
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Democrats use identity politics because we've discovered that they are terrible at running the country.
So if you are lousy leader, scream racism and maybe someone will believe you.
It helps that the media is bought and paid for as well.

But we all know this.......

Democrat policies are ridiculous. High taxes, low wages, massive debt, rampant crime, going soft on criminals, punishing people who don't vote for you, forcing people to think the way you want them to. Reward people when they lie and cheat for you.

No free society that has it's shit together would want to follow this, but the retards on the left seem to be able to find enough manufactured votes in rental trucks to win elections. Just drive them to a corrupt election supervisor's district and you can win any election.

Retards on the right are doing this as well, and it is something we should guard against.

there is a fine line between Enlightened Nationalistic self interest vrs subjective narcissistic bombast and Jargoneering.

The Right's simplistic, sloppy and ham-handed response has certainly made things worse.

My guess is that what we're seeing today is most likely a clumsy last gasp. They blew it.
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No.
What we're seeing is the decline of decency in a society. The left has given up on decency in the party. Winning at all costs has replaced having a better message. The message was bullshit to begin with, but it used to be Democrats had something to offer. Now all they can offer is chaos and fraud. Not one of them has the knowledge and experience it takes to run a government efficiently. Now all they do is paint the opposition as racists. An example is Bernie Sanders saying when Trump dumped DACA it was the most horrific event he's ever witnessed. He forgets about Pearl Harbor, the rape of Nanking, the Bataan Death March, the Holocaust, the Communist Revolution in Russia, the Killing Fields in Cambodia, and 911. It's this kind of fraudulent rhetoric that passes as normal in Washington.

Decency and civility is white supremacy.

NYU Prof: Calls for 'Civility' Protect 'White Supremacy' | National Review

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Saying "I don't want you to think I'm part of some master race."

Is not the same as saying "I'm part of the master race".

 

[Toronado3800]

Alas, Jim, I suspect it's too late. Those who seek to divide this country into narcissistic competing pieces have been at this for decades, and it's part of our culture now.

Once a cancer like this has metastasized into the culture, it's damn near impossible to eradicate.

We're becoming a very different country, and some seem to be very pleased about that.
.

Democrats use identity politics because we've discovered that they are terrible at running the country.
So if you are lousy leader, scream racism and maybe someone will believe you.
It helps that the media is bought and paid for as well.

But we all know this.......

Democrat policies are ridiculous. High taxes, low wages, massive debt, rampant crime, going soft on criminals, punishing people who don't vote for you, forcing people to think the way you want them to. Reward people when they lie and cheat for you.

No free society that has it's shit together would want to follow this, but the retards on the left seem to be able to find enough manufactured votes in rental trucks to win elections. Just drive them to a corrupt election supervisor's district and you can win any election.

Retards on the right are doing this as well, and it is something we should guard against.

there is a fine line between Enlightened Nationalistic self interest vrs subjective narcissistic bombast and Jargoneering.

That's horse shit.
Democrats have control over the media....so any Republican that does is either has to do it for the Democrats or they get exposed as fakes.

I knew it! Fox News is a "Manchirian Network" so to say. Darn Tim Allen and Ted Nugent. Not to mention the giant corporations that owned networks in the 90"s.

Really, if one person is a jerk, or left of you, they may be a leftist or a jerk. If everyone....it is probably you.

Edit: And to be clear, I am not calling you a jerk, just modifying an old saying.

 

[MacTheKnife]

"There is an old saying — supposedly an ancient Chinese curse: “May you live in interesting times.” Today the curse has come true. The interesting times are here. What is most interesting about them is that for perhaps the first time in history, certainly for one of the few times in history, we are witnessing the more or less peaceful transfer of power from one civilization and from the race that created and bore that civilization, to different races."

by Sam Francis

 

[Dogmaphobe]

While looking for something on Nationalism found this from ALBERT EINSTEIN
NATIONALISM is an infantile disease it is the measles of mankind.

Nationalism is the term that supports the notion that nation states should enjoy the self determination and sovereignty that such states provide the people living in them

The alternatives are anarchy, which devolves into localized rule by the most ruthless, and globalism, which places decision making in the hands of the most powerful internationally.

Which of those two alternates are you supporting here since you have rejected the sovereignty of the nation state?

 

[JimBowie1958]

While looking for something on Nationalism found this from ALBERT EINSTEIN
NATIONALISM is an infantile disease it is the measles of mankind.

Nationalism is the term that supports the notion that nation states should enjoy the self determination and sovereignty that such states provide the people living in them

The alternatives are anarchy, which devolves into localized rule by the most ruthless, and globalism, which places decision making in the hands of the most powerful internationally.

Which of those two alternates are you supporting here since you have rejected the sovereignty of the nation state?

There is also a 'Regional Confederacy' like many Italian city states enjoyed for centuries and the Swiss enjoy today among their cantons.

 

[JimBowie1958]

This fellow should resign immediately.'Master race' comment by Kansas county commissioner draws calls for his resignation

Incredible.

This report cuts right to his comments, and shows a quick interview after: White Kansas official tells black woman he belongs to 'master race'

He wasn't kidding when he said that. And there are people here who will claim that this stuff no longer exists.
.

Oh merci, merci......................in a nutshell...how this lost fellow and the others like him think..................

I’m riddled with shame. White shame. This isn’t helpful to me or to anyone, especially people of color. I feel like there is no “me” outside of my white/upper middle class/cisgender identity. I feel like my literal existence hurts people, like I’m always taking up space that should belong to someone else.

I consider myself an ally. I research proper etiquette, read writers of color, vote in a way that will not harm P.O.C. (and other vulnerable people). I engage in conversations about privilege with other white people. I take courses that will further educate me. I donated to Black Lives Matter. Yet I fear that nothing is enough. Part of my fear comes from the fact that privilege is invisible to itself. What if I’m doing or saying insensitive things without realizing it?

Or one could just look at what the guy said, ""I don't want you to think I'm picking on you because we're part of the master race," Klemp told Penelton — claiming that the fact that both he and she had "gaps" in their teeth meant they were part of a master race. He then said he didn't like any of the land use options that she had presented to the commission."

If he was joking then he has a very bgad sense of humor. I guess he would joke with Jews about getting into an oven or something.

Personally I suspect he was trying to be provocative by skirting a fine line between outright racist references and merely seeming to make a racist reference both of which are stupid and not what I desire for my elected officials, nor more than joking about nuking gun owners or instating Stalin Show Trials.

 

[JimBowie1958]

"There is an old saying — supposedly an ancient Chinese curse: “May you live in interesting times.” Today the curse has come true. The interesting times are here. What is most interesting about them is that for perhaps the first time in history, certainly for one of the few times in history, we are witnessing the more or less peaceful transfer of power from one civilization and from the race that created and bore that civilization, to different races."

by Sam Francis

Conflict is what makes a situation interesting, such as a game of chess, a civil war or an action adventure.

Like it or not we are in a very complex conflict where various factions strive for power in our times using misdirection, misinformation and false flag opposition among other things.

Today, since we refuse to encourage our own women to have babies instead of murdering them in the womb, we have to import labor from other nations and cultures or face unstoppable power dynamics like a permanent economic depression and a refusal of our population to defend its own interests in war due to so many parents with only one child.

When those alien populations immigrate in of course they are going to want to have a share in power, so Francis, whom I have met and have had dinner with several times prior to his death, he is not wrong, but he is overly simplifying the situation considerably.

We can import these groups and share our power with them successfully AS LONG AS THEY ASSIMILATE. This makes our population grow and helps our economy thrive.

Without this immigration or with it and no assimilation we are heading to disaster either way.

The root problem today that we have is that with Identity Politics we have stopped immigrants from being expected to assimilate.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Saying "I don't want you to think I'm part of some master race."

Is not the same as saying "I'm part of the master race".

He said ""I don't want you to think I'm picking on you because we're part of the master race,..." and claimed it was a joke.

His horrendous sense of humor, if that is what it really was, makes him unfit for office in a democracy or democratic republic.

 

[Preacher]

 

[Slade3200]

Alas, Jim, I suspect it's too late. Those who seek to divide this country into narcissistic competing pieces have been at this for decades, and it's part of our culture now.

Once a cancer like this has metastasized into the culture, it's damn near impossible to eradicate.

We're becoming a very different country, and some seem to be very pleased about that.
.

Democrats use identity politics because we've discovered that they are terrible at running the country.
So if you are lousy leader, scream racism and maybe someone will believe you.
It helps that the media is bought and paid for as well.

But we all know this.......

Democrat policies are ridiculous. High taxes, low wages, massive debt, rampant crime, going soft on criminals, punishing people who don't vote for you, forcing people to think the way you want them to. Reward people when they lie and cheat for you.

No free society that has it's shit together would want to follow this, but the retards on the left seem to be able to find enough manufactured votes in rental trucks to win elections. Just drive them to a corrupt election supervisor's district and you can win any election.

You exemplify the problem with your post

 

[Toro]

Alas, Jim, I suspect it's too late. Those who seek to divide this country into narcissistic competing pieces have been at this for decades, and it's part of our culture now.

Once a cancer like this has metastasized into the culture, it's damn near impossible to eradicate.

We're becoming a very different country, and some seem to be very pleased about that.
.

Democrats use identity politics because we've discovered that they are terrible at running the country.
So if you are lousy leader, scream racism and maybe someone will believe you.
It helps that the media is bought and paid for as well.

But we all know this.......

Democrat policies are ridiculous. High taxes, low wages, massive debt, rampant crime, going soft on criminals, punishing people who don't vote for you, forcing people to think the way you want them to. Reward people when they lie and cheat for you.

No free society that has it's shit together would want to follow this, but the retards on the left seem to be able to find enough manufactured votes in rental trucks to win elections. Just drive them to a corrupt election supervisor's district and you can win any election.

Retards on the right are doing this as well, and it is something we should guard against.

there is a fine line between Enlightened Nationalistic self interest vrs subjective narcissistic bombast and Jargoneering.

The Right's simplistic, sloppy and ham-handed response has certainly made things worse.

My guess is that what we're seeing today is most likely a clumsy last gasp. They blew it.
.

No.
What we're seeing is the decline of decency in a society. The left has given up on decency in the party. Winning at all costs has replaced having a better message. The message was bullshit to begin with, but it used to be Democrats had something to offer. Now all they can offer is chaos and fraud. Not one of them has the knowledge and experience it takes to run a government efficiently. Now all they do is paint the opposition as racists. An example is Bernie Sanders saying when Trump dumped DACA it was the most horrific event he's ever witnessed. He forgets about Pearl Harbor, the rape of Nanking, the Bataan Death March, the Holocaust, the Communist Revolution in Russia, the Killing Fields in Cambodia, and 911. It's this kind of fraudulent rhetoric that passes as normal in Washington.

You’ve elected the pussy-grabbing, POW-taunting, handicapped-mocking, porn star-fucking while wife is home with newborn, small business cheating crude narcissist.

Any Trump supporter whining about decency in public discourse has less than zero credibility.

 

[JimBowie1958]

You’ve elected the pussy-grabbing, POW-taunting, handicapped-mocking, porn star-fucking while wife is home with newborn, small business cheating crude narcissist.

Any Trump supporter whining about decency in public discourse has less than zero credibility.

I whine about Trumps crudeness from time to time but it is entirely irrelevant to why I voted for him as did tens of millions of others.

Wollman Rink

In 1974, the Parks and Recreation Department started planning a renovation of the rink, including switching the refrigeration system from brinewater to liquid Freon to lower the operation costs, but plans had to be put in hold due to New York City’s fiscal problems. The rink had to be closed in the winter of 1980 when its concrete floor buckled; at that time, the renovation was estimated to cost up to $4.9 million and to take two years. Due to the necessity of soliciting bids for three separate contracts and a series of planning errors, construction mishaps, and flooding caused by heavy rains, the renovations had not been completed by May 1986 when the city decided to use brinewater in plastic pipes. By that time, $12.9 million had been spent, with an additional $2 to $3 million estimated to complete the work by the winter of 1987.[4][5]

Donald Trump then offered to rebuild the rink at his expense within six months in return for the leases to operate the rink and an adjacent restaurant to recoup his costs. The final agreement was that the city would reimburse him for the costs up to the agreed limit and that he would donate the profits of rink and restaurant to charity and public works.[5][6] Reportedly, Trump asked his contractors, among them HRH Construction, to also do the work without making a profit, promising them publicity, but never mentioned their contributions afterwards, except in his book Trump: The Art of the Deal.[7] The work was completed two months ahead of schedule and $750,000 under the estimated costs.

When the rink reopened in November 1987,[5][8] ticket prices were raised from $2.50 to $4.50, and attendance was up from 130,000 in 1980 to 250,000 in 1987. As part of its agreement with the city, the Trump Organization donated most of the profit to charity, among them United Cerebral Palsy, Partnership for the Homeless, and Gay Men’s Health Crisis. [9]
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If Trump can do half of that for America it would be worth a whine-fest every night on CNN ion response to some trivial Trumpian crudity of some sort.

 

[Toro]

You’ve elected the pussy-grabbing, POW-taunting, handicapped-mocking, porn star-fucking while wife is home with newborn, small business cheating crude narcissist.

Any Trump supporter whining about decency in public discourse has less than zero credibility.

I whine about Trumps crudeness from time to time but it is entirely irrelevant to why I voted for him as did tens of millions of others.

Wollman Rink

In 1974, the Parks and Recreation Department started planning a renovation of the rink, including switching the refrigeration system from brinewater to liquid Freon to lower the operation costs, but plans had to be put in hold due to New York City’s fiscal problems. The rink had to be closed in the winter of 1980 when its concrete floor buckled; at that time, the renovation was estimated to cost up to $4.9 million and to take two years. Due to the necessity of soliciting bids for three separate contracts and a series of planning errors, construction mishaps, and flooding caused by heavy rains, the renovations had not been completed by May 1986 when the city decided to use brinewater in plastic pipes. By that time, $12.9 million had been spent, with an additional $2 to $3 million estimated to complete the work by the winter of 1987.[4][5]

Donald Trump then offered to rebuild the rink at his expense within six months in return for the leases to operate the rink and an adjacent restaurant to recoup his costs. The final agreement was that the city would reimburse him for the costs up to the agreed limit and that he would donate the profits of rink and restaurant to charity and public works.[5][6] Reportedly, Trump asked his contractors, among them HRH Construction, to also do the work without making a profit, promising them publicity, but never mentioned their contributions afterwards, except in his book Trump: The Art of the Deal.[7] The work was completed two months ahead of schedule and $750,000 under the estimated costs.

When the rink reopened in November 1987,[5][8] ticket prices were raised from $2.50 to $4.50, and attendance was up from 130,000 in 1980 to 250,000 in 1987. As part of its agreement with the city, the Trump Organization donated most of the profit to charity, among them United Cerebral Palsy, Partnership for the Homeless, and Gay Men’s Health Crisis. [9]
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If Trump can do half of that for America it would be worth a pussy joke whine-fest every night on CNN.

Fair enough. You aren’t whining about one-sided lack of decency in public discourse.

If someone says “I voted for Trump even though he’s a total asshole,” I can respect that. I might not agree, but I can respect it.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Fair enough. You aren’t whining about one-sided lack of decency in public discourse.

If someone says “I voted for Trump even though he’s a total asshole,” I can respect that. I might not agree, but I can respect it.

Well, being a bit of a crude autistic infantryman myself, I find nit-picking at other people to be a bit hypocrital and I eschew hypocrisy.

 

[MacTheKnife]

Saying "I don't want you to think I'm part of some master race."

Is not the same as saying "I'm part of the master race".

He said ""I don't want you to think I'm picking on you because we're part of the master race,..." and claimed it was a joke.

His horrendous sense of humor, if that is what it really was, makes him unfit for office in a democracy or democratic republic.

He is exactly the kind we need in office. Quit kowtowing and kissing minority asses....it is truly disgusting.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Saying "I don't want you to think I'm part of some master race."

Is not the same as saying "I'm part of the master race".

He said ""I don't want you to think I'm picking on you because we're part of the master race,..." and claimed it was a joke.

His horrendous sense of humor, if that is what it really was, makes him unfit for office in a democracy or democratic republic.

He is exactly the kind we need in office. Quit kowtowing and kissing minority asses....it is truly disgusting.

roflmao, so you think we need to just abandon Objectivity, Truth, a moral compass, and evict all non-Whites from our nation?

That would be a HUGE disaster, but I dont think you really concern yourself with such thoughts, do you?

And who is white?

Hispancs from Argentina? Dravidians from India? Polynesians?

What percentage of non-Caucasian heritage disqualifies one from being 'white' in your opinion?

Are Celts less white than Germans?

Would Irish people be allowed to stay in your America?

Of course I dont really expect you to answer any of these questions as my intent is just to remind people why we put an end to such conversation in educated society back int he 1960s.