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/----/ You can't back up your claim because you know it's not true.Oh my. You're crazed./----/ That is just your hate filled biased opinion. If it were true, you'd be able to post facts to back it up. You won't because you can't. Now answer my question: We all acknowledge that the true agenda of the DemocRATS is to reinstate slavery, where will they draw their slaves from, Detroit or Harlem?Ah, so you've never noticed that./----/ As if you didn't know your straw man argument. Well here it is Spanky: " I do very much wonder when advanced education, intellectual acuity and a general ability to speak in an articulate manner became negative qualities for the GOP." I'll answer your question Birdbrain - NEVER. It never became negative qualities for the GOP.Did I say something that was incorrect?/----/ As long as we are setting up straw man arguments, here's my entry: We all acknowledge that the true agenda of the DemocRATS is to reinstate slavery, where will they draw their slaves from, Detroit or Harlem?
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Got it.
Always fascinating, the selective attention of hardcore partisan ideologues on both ends.
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Okay. You're absolutely right. You really are right. Thanks for setting me straight.
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I'm not taking sides here, just posting these links as some interesting reading on why those with college degrees in America, Canada, and Europe tend to be more Liberal, and why the less educated tend to be more Conservative, also, why American's believe they control their own destiny, while those in other countries would prefer the state to play a larger role in their lives.
Whatever side of the partisan fence you are on, this might make some interesting reading.
Why the Most Educated Americans Vote Democratic
How the education gap is tearing politics apart | David Runciman
5 ways Americans and Europeans are different
In 1953, when Americans had the most widespread prosperity ever, one third of the CEOs didn't have college degrees. It is significant that this was hidden away in a footnote in the bestseller, The Organization Man.There are plumbers and electricians that make more that managers at a lot of retail stores and they don't have degrees.
And many of them are with unions that give money hand over fist to Democrats!
Not in my State.
That may be true, there are many people that have a high school education and hove gone to run fortune 500 companies.
Is that the world you want?
Of course that's what acadumbified snobs think of Main Street.Down Alice's Rabbit HoleI haven't that I can remember. But it is true.Educated =|= intelligent
When I see college professors claiming milk is racist, thought is rape, and gender is a choice, I'm ok with the Dems being "educated".
Yep, that's the entirety of the university experience. No one comes out of the other end better than they entered.
That is the most often quoted stat to me when lefties try to claim the intellectual high ground. They quote me percentages of college professors who are democrats.
You have probably done it in the past yourself.
It's simple really. Most educators are more liberal minded simply because the nature of education is the process of opening minds over a broad range of subjects.
It goes without saying that liberals tend to be more open minded in general. It stands to reason then that those with higher levels of education tend to also be more liberal as well.
Every door opened to fantasy closes one to reality.
The sage of shitstain.![]()
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In 1953, when Americans had the most widespread prosperity ever, one third of the CEOs didn't have college degrees. It is significant that this was hidden away in a footnote in the bestseller, The Organization Man.And many of them are with unions that give money hand over fist to Democrats!
Not in my State.
That may be true, there are many people that have a high school education and hove gone to run fortune 500 companies.
Is that the world you want?
(This is in reply to Post #285. My computer was so depressed by the parroted "thinking" here by the Netwits caged on both the Left and the Right that it tried to commit suicide.)
Each of your corporate Masters' authoritarian talking points you recite proves how dumbed down college graduates are, which reflects on their ability to do the jobs they stole through brownnosing.
#1 = "The more posts a poster makes, the more that proves he is stupid."
#2 Person is the subject, so change the verb to is. Unstructured grammar is evidence of unstructured thought.
#3 All that proves is that college "education" means students having their parents buy them their future jobs. The brainwashed public is prevented from realizing the overwhelming psychological advantage richkids have in living off an adult allowance.
#4 This unmotivating school playground for Preppies is the key to why the economy has gone downhill since 1953.
Of course that's what acadumbified snobs think of Main Street.Down Alice's Rabbit HoleI haven't that I can remember. But it is true.Yep, that's the entirety of the university experience. No one comes out of the other end better than they entered.
That is the most often quoted stat to me when lefties try to claim the intellectual high ground. They quote me percentages of college professors who are democrats.
You have probably done it in the past yourself.
It's simple really. Most educators are more liberal minded simply because the nature of education is the process of opening minds over a broad range of subjects.
It goes without saying that liberals tend to be more open minded in general. It stands to reason then that those with higher levels of education tend to also be more liberal as well.
Every door opened to fantasy closes one to reality.
The sage of shitstain.![]()
I was in the carpenters union, and I know people who got in by passing the business agent money under the table. Unions are utterly corrupt. The business agent was widely known to own about 40 acres of land just outside of Boulder Co. The cost of that would be well over a million. It's hard to justify that on a salary of $36,000/yrIt depends on which trade union. For some if you have the actual experience and can pass their test they will accept you with less time to be spent as an apprentice.So your saying you don't need to study to get certified? You do understand that to become certified in most vocational trades requires being an apprentice... which isn't mush different than going to college. Your argument fails in that matter.
I said you don't have to get a degree to be certified. Please keep up.
In my state you don't have to be an apprentice to become certified in a vocational trade. I've held a general contractor's license for almost 30 years. While I worked in the field for several years before getting the license, it wasn't required to do so.
I NEVER said you had to get a degree. I said you have to still get an education that requires training for your specific field of vocation... which totally makes your argument wrong.
Neither did I. What you did say was that to become certified in vocational trades requires being an apprentice. That is untrue as a general statement.
Can you get accepted into Unions of Trades without apprenticeships?
That cliché is a destructive half truth. Their grade-school knowledge of grammar, logic, and history proves they're not book smart either.There's also a difference between book smarts and street smarts (or, common sense). And, there is also wisdom.
You can have all the intellect you want, but still be very dumb in other areas
You don't think they are incoherent; you're desperately hoping that by saying so you might trick other people into thinking they are.Of course that's what acadumbified snobs think of Main Street.Down Alice's Rabbit HoleI haven't that I can remember. But it is true.That is the most often quoted stat to me when lefties try to claim the intellectual high ground. They quote me percentages of college professors who are democrats.
You have probably done it in the past yourself.
It's simple really. Most educators are more liberal minded simply because the nature of education is the process of opening minds over a broad range of subjects.
It goes without saying that liberals tend to be more open minded in general. It stands to reason then that those with higher levels of education tend to also be more liberal as well.
Every door opened to fantasy closes one to reality.
The sage of shitstain.![]()
No. That's what I think of you and your incoherent ramblings.
/----/ As to point #3 : The vocational schools that were so popular in the last century have almost gone away. Yes there are some, but not like when I grew up. Auto mechanics, carpentry and so forth were viable options to those who were not college material. You could learn a trade and make a middle class living with a modest home and base model Chevy in the driveway. Do any High Schools still offer Shop or Home Economics?bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
In 1953, when Americans had the most widespread prosperity ever, one third of the CEOs didn't have college degrees. It is significant that this was hidden away in a footnote in the bestseller, The Organization Man.And many of them are with unions that give money hand over fist to Democrats!
Not in my State.
That may be true, there are many people that have a high school education and hove gone to run fortune 500 companies.
Is that the world you want?
(This is in reply to Post #285. My computer was so depressed by the parroted "thinking" here by the Netwits caged on both the Left and the Right that it tried to commit suicide.)
Each of your corporate Masters' authoritarian talking points you recite proves how dumbed down college graduates are, which reflects on their ability to do the jobs they stole through brownnosing.
#1 = "The more posts a poster makes, the more that proves he is stupid."
#2 Person is the subject, so change the verb to is. Unstructured grammar is evidence of unstructured thought.
#3 All that proves is that college "education" means students having their parents buy them their future jobs. The brainwashed public is prevented from realizing the overwhelming psychological advantage richkids have in living off an adult allowance.
#4 This unmotivating school playground for Preppies is the key to why the economy has gone downhill since 1953.
The point that is never allowed to be made is that college is work without pay. So is vocational training. That violates all economic rules about natural incentive./----/ As to point #3 : The vocational schools that were so popular in the last century have almost gone away. Yes there are some, but not like when I grew up. Auto mechanics, carpentry and so forth were viable options to those who were not college material. You could learn a trade and make a middle class living with a modest home and base model Chevy in the driveway. Do any High Schools still offer Shop or Home Economics?bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
In 1953, when Americans had the most widespread prosperity ever, one third of the CEOs didn't have college degrees. It is significant that this was hidden away in a footnote in the bestseller, The Organization Man.Not in my State.
That may be true, there are many people that have a high school education and hove gone to run fortune 500 companies.
Is that the world you want?
(This is in reply to Post #285. My computer was so depressed by the parroted "thinking" here by the Netwits caged on both the Left and the Right that it tried to commit suicide.)
Each of your corporate Masters' authoritarian talking points you recite proves how dumbed down college graduates are, which reflects on their ability to do the jobs they stole through brownnosing.
#1 = "The more posts a poster makes, the more that proves he is stupid."
#2 Person is the subject, so change the verb to is. Unstructured grammar is evidence of unstructured thought.
#3 All that proves is that college "education" means students having their parents buy them their future jobs. The brainwashed public is prevented from realizing the overwhelming psychological advantage richkids have in living off an adult allowance.
#4 This unmotivating school playground for Preppies is the key to why the economy has gone downhill since 1953.
/----/ You said: "college is work without pay. So is vocational training. " That makes no sense. Do you expect to get paid while getting an education? What is it you're trying to say?The point that is never allowed to be made is that college is work without pay. So is vocational training. That violates all economic rules about natural incentive./----/ As to point #3 : The vocational schools that were so popular in the last century have almost gone away. Yes there are some, but not like when I grew up. Auto mechanics, carpentry and so forth were viable options to those who were not college material. You could learn a trade and make a middle class living with a modest home and base model Chevy in the driveway. Do any High Schools still offer Shop or Home Economics?bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
In 1953, when Americans had the most widespread prosperity ever, one third of the CEOs didn't have college degrees. It is significant that this was hidden away in a footnote in the bestseller, The Organization Man.That may be true, there are many people that have a high school education and hove gone to run fortune 500 companies.
Is that the world you want?
(This is in reply to Post #285. My computer was so depressed by the parroted "thinking" here by the Netwits caged on both the Left and the Right that it tried to commit suicide.)
Each of your corporate Masters' authoritarian talking points you recite proves how dumbed down college graduates are, which reflects on their ability to do the jobs they stole through brownnosing.
#1 = "The more posts a poster makes, the more that proves he is stupid."
#2 Person is the subject, so change the verb to is. Unstructured grammar is evidence of unstructured thought.
#3 All that proves is that college "education" means students having their parents buy them their future jobs. The brainwashed public is prevented from realizing the overwhelming psychological advantage richkids have in living off an adult allowance.
#4 This unmotivating school playground for Preppies is the key to why the economy has gone downhill since 1953.
Until we wake up to the educationists' Big Lie, "college material" will have little to do with talent. It will apply only to those willing to continue living like teenagers because are afraid to grow up.
You don't think they are incoherent; you're desperately hoping that by saying so you might trick other people into thinking they are.Of course that's what acadumbified snobs think of Main Street.Down Alice's Rabbit HoleI haven't that I can remember. But it is true.
It's simple really. Most educators are more liberal minded simply because the nature of education is the process of opening minds over a broad range of subjects.
It goes without saying that liberals tend to be more open minded in general. It stands to reason then that those with higher levels of education tend to also be more liberal as well.
Every door opened to fantasy closes one to reality.
The sage of shitstain.![]()
No. That's what I think of you and your incoherent ramblings.

/----/ You said: "college is work without pay. So is vocational training. " That makes no sense. Do you expect to get paid while getting an education? What is it you're trying to say?The point that is never allowed to be made is that college is work without pay. So is vocational training. That violates all economic rules about natural incentive./----/ As to point #3 : The vocational schools that were so popular in the last century have almost gone away. Yes there are some, but not like when I grew up. Auto mechanics, carpentry and so forth were viable options to those who were not college material. You could learn a trade and make a middle class living with a modest home and base model Chevy in the driveway. Do any High Schools still offer Shop or Home Economics?bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
In 1953, when Americans had the most widespread prosperity ever, one third of the CEOs didn't have college degrees. It is significant that this was hidden away in a footnote in the bestseller, The Organization Man.
Is that the world you want?
(This is in reply to Post #285. My computer was so depressed by the parroted "thinking" here by the Netwits caged on both the Left and the Right that it tried to commit suicide.)
Each of your corporate Masters' authoritarian talking points you recite proves how dumbed down college graduates are, which reflects on their ability to do the jobs they stole through brownnosing.
#1 = "The more posts a poster makes, the more that proves he is stupid."
#2 Person is the subject, so change the verb to is. Unstructured grammar is evidence of unstructured thought.
#3 All that proves is that college "education" means students having their parents buy them their future jobs. The brainwashed public is prevented from realizing the overwhelming psychological advantage richkids have in living off an adult allowance.
#4 This unmotivating school playground for Preppies is the key to why the economy has gone downhill since 1953.
Until we wake up to the educationists' Big Lie, "college material" will have little to do with talent. It will apply only to those willing to continue living like teenagers because are afraid to grow up.
/----/ As to point #3 : The vocational schools that were so popular in the last century have almost gone away. Yes there are some, but not like when I grew up. Auto mechanics, carpentry and so forth were viable options to those who were not college material. You could learn a trade and make a middle class living with a modest home and base model Chevy in the driveway. Do any High Schools still offer Shop or Home Economics?bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
In 1953, when Americans had the most widespread prosperity ever, one third of the CEOs didn't have college degrees. It is significant that this was hidden away in a footnote in the bestseller, The Organization Man.Not in my State.
That may be true, there are many people that have a high school education and hove gone to run fortune 500 companies.
Is that the world you want?
(This is in reply to Post #285. My computer was so depressed by the parroted "thinking" here by the Netwits caged on both the Left and the Right that it tried to commit suicide.)
Each of your corporate Masters' authoritarian talking points you recite proves how dumbed down college graduates are, which reflects on their ability to do the jobs they stole through brownnosing.
#1 = "The more posts a poster makes, the more that proves he is stupid."
#2 Person is the subject, so change the verb to is. Unstructured grammar is evidence of unstructured thought.
#3 All that proves is that college "education" means students having their parents buy them their future jobs. The brainwashed public is prevented from realizing the overwhelming psychological advantage richkids have in living off an adult allowance.
#4 This unmotivating school playground for Preppies is the key to why the economy has gone downhill since 1953.