Why don't you want to tax the rich?

[Darkwind]

Give some examples

School choice

 

[Company 13]

10%-25% Fraud, theft or wasted. Yet you pig butted trough eaters want more funding? $0.5T-$+1.5T per year gone right now. There's the Obiden built-in deficit since 08' nearly $30T since.

Trump raised the debt. But that's okay, right?
If you think there's no fraud or waste or theft by Trump, you're delusional.

 

[Company 13]

School choice

First of all, that is a state issue and there is school choice. Well, not for everyone. Not for poor people.

 

[Luckyone]

Provide the source link to the graph above so that everyone can understand the source material and inspect it for bias. My review of the above chart and trying to find the exact graph comes from those arguing over income inequality where the commentary is once again claiming that the rich are 'bad' instead of exploring how do we prevent more poverty.

Income Inequality - Inequality.org

What Really Happened to Income Inequality in the 20th Century?

Inequality Today: Worse than a Century Ago?

We don't create less poverty by taking more from the successful population. You could give $100,000.00 to someone who is financially ignorant or irresponsible, and in 5 years, they will have nothing. Do the opposite to a responsible person who has been educated, trained, and understands how to invest, they will turn it into a $1,000,000.00.

This is not about GIVING anyone anything but about making it possible for everyone to have a rationally good living. There is no reason why someone who is rich because of their personal talent or because they had special opportunities (like being from a rich family to being with) to have an easy life when someone who is a good working person but did not have the same opportunities or have the same talent to have to work more just to "make ends meet".

• Record Numbers: The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported a record high of around 9.3 million Americans working multiple jobs in late 2025 to make ends meet, the highest since tracking began in 1994.

The liberal left has everyone thinking that the wealthy are the problem. They are not. The problem is that poverty begets poverty and we have to stop that cycle through education and teaching what it means to be and HOW to be a productive citizen. If the sub cultures in our country understand that education, skills, training can lead them out of poverty, we will have less poors in our country and more people with much better incomes who will create generational wealth that can be passed on.

You are cherry-picking with this answer. There are many reasons for poverty that are not something those people could do anything about (like being born to a poor family and in a poor neighborhood where opportunities for education and good jobs don't exist)

Some in this country need to stop bitching about what they don't have, stop being envious of what others do have and have justifiably earned it, and start doing something for themselves instead of trying to point the finger at everyone else for their current situation.

Humans are human and if you cherry-pick what you are looking to criticize, you will always find examples to support your opinion. What you have to consider is that life will always have good things and bad things and what we all need to do is try to find more good than bad but even then, we will have bad that we need to ignore or not pay so much attention to. If you want to change that, then become an alien from another planet and lose your human status.

And here are the actual rates for top earners. Keep in mind that many didn't pay those rates due to exemptions, exclusions, loopholes, deductions, etc. Also, I believe many would argue that the economy and wealth grew very well during the 80's too.

those can and should be changed

Historical Highest Marginal Income Tax Rates

taxpolicycenter.org

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[Redfish]

You should do some research to find out why it's not fair.
Have you read Adam Smith?

is a sales tax unfair? everyone pays the same %.

 

[Redfish]

I don't work for you. I told you Scott Bessent interviewed on Fox News. It was about a week or so ago.

The taxes are effective for 2025 as many have stated that the refunds will be much better because taxes were withheld at a normal rate, and now will not be taxed. The refunds will reflect that! Why would I lie about something like that?

I did not say you were lying, i merely asked for clarification and verification of your claims. I hope you are correct, it will save me money this year if so. I just need proof.

 

[Company 13]

is a sales tax unfair? everyone pays the same %.

It is unfair. It's regressive. If you don't want to read and study about it, I'll attempt to explain it to you.

 

[Redfish]

It is unfair. It's regressive. If you don't want to read and study about it, I'll attempt to explain it to you.

everything we buy is taxed. the rich buy more than the poor so they pay more sales taxes. it's not complicated.

 

[Robert W]

Record Numbers: The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported a record high of around 9.3 million Americans working multiple jobs in late 2025 to make ends meet, the highest since tracking began in 1994.

How could you support Obama or Biden given you make those claims? The Trump budget just got going on October1.

 

[Company 13]

everything we buy is taxed. the rich buy more than the poor so they pay more sales taxes. it's not complicated.

You miss the point. Oh, well, not everyone is good at math.

 

[Company 13]

everything we buy is taxed. the rich buy more than the poor so they pay more sales taxes. it's not complicated.

Maybe this will help. I copied it elsewhere.

• Uniform Rate, Disproportionate Impact: Everyone pays the same fixed tax rate on a given purchase. However, that fixed dollar amount represents a much greater financial burden for someone with a low income than for someone with a high income. For example, a $50 sales tax on a purchase would be a much larger percentage of a $2,000 monthly income than of a $10,000 monthly income.

 

[Company 13]

everything we buy is taxed. the rich buy more than the poor so they pay more sales taxes. it's not complicated.

Here's something else that might help you understand it. It's from Trump's IRS site.
It could be that your strong suit isn't arithmetic. If not, find someone who can explain it to you. (Please don't take that as an insult. We are not all good at everything. I can't do auto mechanics.)

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I did not say you were lying, i merely asked for clarification and verification of your claims. I hope you are correct, it will save me money this year if so. I just need proof.

Google is your friend. You could probably ask the IRS or any tax professional.

 

[Frankenstein]

That isn't what I responded to. You made the claim that government only benefits those in government. That's not true.

It is absolutely true, who else benefits from their bills?

 

[Company 13]

It is absolutely true, who else benefits from their bills?

All of us benefit. For example, highways, schools, etc.

 

[Frankenstein]

Here's something else that might help you understand it. It's from Trump's IRS site.
It could be that your strong suit isn't arithmetic. If not, find someone who can explain it to you. (Please don't take that as an insult. We are not all good at everything. I can't do auto mechanics.)

Could be your strong suit isn't keep your hands off what you don't earn. Welfare is supposed to help people no problem, but the welfare state has become generational, each learning how to grift from the generation before.

 

[dblack]

Oh, a libertarian. Have you read the article about why a libertarian government can never work? Very interesting.

Yeah. Freedom sucks.

 

[Company 13]

Could be your strong suit isn't keep your hands off what you don't earn. Welfare is supposed to help people no problem, but the welfare state has become generational, each learning how to grift from the generation before.

If there's a welfare topic on the forum, you should avail yourself of it. This is not about welfare. Someone wanted to learn about regressive taxes, and I went to a lot of work to help him, and you are trying to derail the topic.

 

[Company 13]

Yeah. Freedom sucks.

No one should be a libertarian without reading an article about why it won't work.
Notice that there are no libertarian societies. There's a reason for that.

 

[dblack]

If there's a welfare topic on the forum, you should avail yourself of it. This is not about welfare. Someone wanted to learn about regressive taxes, and I went to a lot of work to help him, and you are trying to derail the topic.

Wow. You have one giant pompous stick up your ass, don't you?