Why don't people care about the Russian holocaust?

[editec]

Read Gulag archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn to get a good idea of Stalinist Russia.

A great history but booooooooooooooooooring.

For a more personal understanding of the horrors of the Stalinist period I advise you read One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich, also by Solzhenitsyn.

 

[strollingbones]

gulag was horrible...it was worse than the old man and the sea...

but it is the history of russia

 

[Voltaire164]

In the Russian Revolution, 40million people (or 100million, depending on the source you believe) were slaughtered. Why does the media and government place more importance on the deaths of millions of one particular people from WWII?
If we're going to make comparisons, many times as many Christians were killed in the communist uprising, for example. So why does no one care?
Who's building monuments to their memory?
Who's paying reparations to their families?

That's been a question in my mind since I learned about it in History class.

There have been many slaughters of innocent people throughout history. In every country's history. The fact that the Russian Revolution doesn't ring any bells with many people is because the textbooks don't give them information. In my school system, I spent year after year learning the Holocaust; one year we would do a research project on the Nazis, the next we would read Night, and so on.

The American school system is 'messed up', on all counts. The Russian Revolution probably isn't taught very well or thoroughly because, to teenagers and/or curriculum writers, the topic seems obscure.

 

[elvis]

In the Russian Revolution, 40million people (or 100million, depending on the source you believe) were slaughtered. Why does the media and government place more importance on the deaths of millions of one particular people from WWII?
If we're going to make comparisons, many times as many Christians were killed in the communist uprising, for example. So why does no one care?
Who's building monuments to their memory?
Who's paying reparations to their families?

That's been a question in my mind since I learned about it in History class.

Because genocide is considered worse than mass murder.

 

[cbi0090]

Read Gulag archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn to get a good idea of Stalinist Russia.

A great history but booooooooooooooooooring.

For a more personal understanding of the horrors of the Stalinist period I advise you read One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich, also by Solzhenitsyn.

A very good book but, of course, GULAG was history altering which is why it is considered MUST reading. There are others I would suggest, to get a real feel for the times just prior to and after WW II. One, is a shocker. It's a biography of Rasputin by a Russian author (I can't recall his name at the moment). Another is Only One Year (By Stalin's Daughter) Svetlana Aalliluyeva. Also, Kruchev's autobiography. As much as he tries to be sophisticated his brutishness still comes through but reveals a different perspective. There are many others but these stand out to me as ones that provide an understanding that you just don't get in history books.

 

[kakarothusain]

It is mainly because russia's power began to decline after russian revolution and people started seeing russia as a backward country and therefore no one care about the Russian holocaust.

 

[AllieBaba]

In the Russian Revolution, 40million people (or 100million, depending on the source you believe) were slaughtered. Why does the media and government place more importance on the deaths of millions of one particular people from WWII?
If we're going to make comparisons, many times as many Christians were killed in the communist uprising, for example. So why does no one care?
Who's building monuments to their memory?
Who's paying reparations to their families?

That's been a question in my mind since I learned about it in History class.

Simply put, you don't hear about it because the liberal media approves of communism, and sees nothing wrong with slaughtering ones own people to establish it.

 

[Old Rocks]

In the Russian Revolution, 40million people (or 100million, depending on the source you believe) were slaughtered. Why does the media and government place more importance on the deaths of millions of one particular people from WWII?
If we're going to make comparisons, many times as many Christians were killed in the communist uprising, for example. So why does no one care?
Who's building monuments to their memory?
Who's paying reparations to their families?

That's been a question in my mind since I learned about it in History class.

Simply put, you don't hear about it because the liberal media approves of communism, and sees nothing wrong with slaughtering ones own people to establish it.

The "liberal media" doesn't seem to care about what happened in our own genocide, that of the Native American. Nor does the "conservative media". Most just want to sweep that horror under the rug. Including you, would be my guess.

 

[William Joyce]

It's very simple to answer.

One ethnic/political/religious group in America controls the media.

So their preceived genocide/holocaust takes center stage in our society.

Yup.

The genocide of Russian gentiles was committed by Jews -- therefore, we hush up about it.

Hitler went after Jews -- therefore, we hear non-stop about it.

Today, Jews go after Palestinians. Again, silence.

Jews are as bloodthirsty as Nazis ever were, but they control our media messages today, so guess who all the sheeple pledge fealty to.

 

[Old Rocks]

What synagogue did these Jews attend? Stalin was not a Jew, in fact had spent time in a Russian Orthodox seminary.

Stalin was born on 18 December 1878 in Gori, Georgia to a family of limited financial means in a town plagued by gang warfare and street brawls. At seven, he contracted smallpox, which permanently scarred his face. At twelve, two horse-drawn carriage accidents left his left arm permanently damaged. At ten, he began attending a church school that required the Georgian children to speak Russian. At sixteen, he received a scholarship to a Georgian Orthodox seminary, where he wrote poetry and rebelled against being forced to speak Russian. Though he performed well, his was expelled shortly before his final exams because he was unable to pay his tuition fees.

Joseph Stalin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Shortly after leaving the Seminary, he discovered the writings of Vladimir Lenin and decided to become a Marxist revolutionary. He began organizing strikes in 1902 and joined the Bolsheviks in 1903. Stalin at first worked against the Mensheviks and, during the Russian Revolution of 1905, he organized and armed Bolshevik militias across Georgia, running protection rackets waging guerrilla warfare on Cossacks, policemen and the Okhrana. After meeting Lenin at a Bolshevik conference, Stalin returned to Georgia, and plotted the assassination of a Cossack general with the Mensheviks, while raising money for the Bolsheviks through extortion, bank robberies and hold-ups.

 

[elvis]

In the Russian Revolution, 40million people (or 100million, depending on the source you believe) were slaughtered. Why does the media and government place more importance on the deaths of millions of one particular people from WWII?
If we're going to make comparisons, many times as many Christians were killed in the communist uprising, for example. So why does no one care?
Who's building monuments to their memory?
Who's paying reparations to their families?

That's been a question in my mind since I learned about it in History class.

Simply put, you don't hear about it because the liberal media approves of communism, and sees nothing wrong with slaughtering ones own people to establish it.

The "liberal media" doesn't seem to care about what happened in our own genocide, that of the Native American. Nor does the "conservative media". Most just want to sweep that horror under the rug. Including you, would be my guess.

and why would you make that judgement about allie? Oh that's right, her views do not line up with yours. therefore, she is evil. you are a pathetic excuse for a human being.

 

[Old Rocks]

Simply put, you don't hear about it because the liberal media approves of communism, and sees nothing wrong with slaughtering ones own people to establish it.

The "liberal media" doesn't seem to care about what happened in our own genocide, that of the Native American. Nor does the "conservative media". Most just want to sweep that horror under the rug. Including you, would be my guess.

and why would you make that judgement about allie? Oh that's right, her views do not line up with yours. therefore, she is evil. you are a pathetic excuse for a human being.

I make that judgement because most Conservatives will not even begin to admit what we did to the Native Americans of this nation. And what we are still doing.

 

[elvis]

The "liberal media" doesn't seem to care about what happened in our own genocide, that of the Native American. Nor does the "conservative media". Most just want to sweep that horror under the rug. Including you, would be my guess.

and why would you make that judgement about allie? Oh that's right, her views do not line up with yours. therefore, she is evil. you are a pathetic excuse for a human being.

I make that judgement because most Conservatives will not even begin to admit what we did to the Native Americans of this nation. And what we are still doing.

yeah, it's CONSERVATIVES who don't admit it.

 

[wayne]

Stalin killed perhaps 40 million, but that was over 20+ years.

There was no such total during the civil war.

Nobody talks about what stalin did because most people don't understand what his USSR was actually like.

Read the book 1984; its fiction, but Stalin and the communist were the inspiration.

 

[ItsFairmont]

It's very simple to answer.

One ethnic/political/religious group in America controls the media.

So their preceived genocide/holocaust takes center stage in our society.

This is correct.

And it isn't anti-semitic to say it, because it's true.


That said, what are we supposed to do about it? Personally, I like Jews and much of my wife's family is Jewish. They are nice, generous people. Do they fit some of the stereotypes? Absolutely. Are they bad people? No worse than any other race.


I used to have a lot of anger toward the Jewish people for the stereotypes that they perpetuate (but deny), mostly the money thing, but I learned over time what wonderful people they are.


And also, it's important to understand why God chose them over others: They were the weak. They were the feeble. They were the homeless, so God took them in. He is merciful and wonderful and cared for them when nobody else would, and raised them to greatness.

Of course, they are a "stubborn and unruly people" (those are God's words from the Bible, not mine). And He suggested destroying them many times and, in fact, gave them over to their enemies over and over when they failed to keep His covenant.

He said he would scatter them across the face of the earth. Well, here we are 3500 years later, and sure enough, God kept His word. They are scattered, mixed with other races, and do not have their homeland back (only a fraction of it).

They are indeed a very frustrated people. No true home yet, and they lost their covenant with God.


The NEW covenant (as shown by your calendar as 2009 years old) is what stands now. The Jews, while still God's people, are no longer exclusive. In fact, most of them are perhaps out of God's grace because they refuse to face the Truth: God sent His son so that whoever believes in Him shall have everlasting life."

There's a reason those old books and movies say "in the year of our Lord."

It's because God Himself came to earth as our Lord and Savior.


There are no atheists in hell.

 

[ItsFairmont]

Stalin killed perhaps 40 million, but that was over 20+ years.

There was no such total during the civil war.

Nobody talks about what stalin did because most people don't understand what his USSR was actually like.

Read the book 1984; its fiction, but Stalin and the communist were the inspiration.

From Wikipedia: In a letter to Francis A. Henson of the United Automobile Workers, dated 16 June 1949 (seven months before he died), excerpts from which were reproduced in Life (25 July 1949) and the New York Times Book Review (31 July 1949), Orwell stated the following:

"My recent novel [Nineteen Eighty-Four] is NOT intended as an attack on Socialism or on the British Labour Party (of which I am a supporter) but as a show-up of the perversions ... which have already been partly realized in Communism and Fascism. ...The scene of the book is laid in Britain in order to emphasize that the English-speaking races are not innately better than anyone else and that totalitarianism, if not fought against, could triumph anywhere."

—Collected Essays[10]
In his 1946 essay, "Why I Write", Orwell described himself as a Democratic Socialist.[

 

[manu1959]

Stalin killed perhaps 40 million, but that was over 20+ years.

There was no such total during the civil war.

Nobody talks about what stalin did because most people don't understand what his USSR was actually like.

I read a general history book on Russia from Nicholas II to Putin's election a couple of years ago.

I don't think I want to know what it was actually like.

read gulag.......i lived there for a time in 82-83.......not a nice place.....

as for genocides.....there have been lots.....Genocides in history - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[manu1959]

The "liberal media" doesn't seem to care about what happened in our own genocide, that of the Native American. Nor does the "conservative media". Most just want to sweep that horror under the rug. Including you, would be my guess.

and why would you make that judgement about allie? Oh that's right, her views do not line up with yours. therefore, she is evil. you are a pathetic excuse for a human being.

I make that judgement because most Conservatives will not even begin to admit what we did to the Native Americans of this nation. And what we are still doing.

we killed them......now we are are making them millionaires.....

 

[disciple2184]

It's very simple to answer.

One ethnic/political/religious group in America controls the media.

So their preceived genocide/holocaust takes center stage in our society.

What i don't understand is that more non-jews, then jews died in the holocaust, but every time you hear about it, its called the jewish holocaust.

 

[Gunny]

The claims of the body count are well, quite off.

Apart from that:
1. Russia did not loose.
And, more importantly, the Red won their revolutionary war, inspite of everyone and his mother intervening on behalf of the whites (Royalists). The whites werent any nicer than the reds anyway.
Sadly, on this world, the winner can get away with nearly everything, provided he wins.


Do you wonder why noone cares a lot about the American genocide on the native Indians either?
The Greek genocide on the persians?
The Mongolian Genocide on well, just about anybody?
The Russian/Muscovitan Genocide on the Crimea Tatars?
The Frankish genocide on the Saxons? Heck, Charlemange is usually considered a hero.

That "American genocide on indians" is pure BS. Native Americans are still here. White European settlers just wanted them out of the way. There was no war nor wars to exterminate them. There were wars to subjugate and dispossess them.

It's just another retelling of the history of mankind's migration to cover the globe. In context with the day and time that it happened, it was the way the strong dealt with the weak. We were in fact not as bad as some nations/races/societies that in fact DID wage wars of genocide.

Like the one that's been given lip service for the past few years in Sudan. Or Rwanda. Those are recent events happening under today's standard. Judging people in the past by today's standard merely presents a dishonest account of history.