Zone1 Why doesn't god just kill satan

[hobelim]

I know better and am better for knowing better.

It's religious nutjobs like you that think they know better.

 

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Yes, I've decided to hold back the evidence for a while.

If you have evidence of anything outside of our universe you'd win a Nobel prize. So you either don't know what evidence is, don't understand the limitation of observing anything outside of our universe or both.

 

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Context is everything. Unless of course you're a religious nutjob.

 

[hobelim]

Context is everything. Unless of course you're a religious nutjob.

I think the answer to the OP is now clear. Why doesn't God kill Satan? Its a lot more fun to watch him squirm!

 

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I think the answer to the OP is now clear. Why doesn't God kill Satan? Its a lot more fun to watch him squirm!

Then you have a poor opinion of God.

 

[hobelim]

Then you have a poor opinion of God.

You might not realize this but it is the resurrected dead standing all around you enjoying watching you squirm.

"The voice of the Lord makes the wilderness writhe in travail; the Lord makes the wilderness writhe."

 

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You might not realize this but it is the resurrected dead standing all around enjoying watching you squirm.

"The voice of the Lord makes the wilderness writhe in travail; the Lord makes the wilderness writhe."

Spoken like a religious nutjob who has an insatiable need to lash out against others.

 

[hobelim]

Spoken like a religious nutjob who has an insatiable need to lash out against others.

Hey dude, when you say something really stupid and contradict yourself it is just really funny. Get over yourself.

I know better and am better for knowing better.

It's religious nutjobs like you that think they know better.

 

[ding]

Hey dude, when you say something really stupid and contradict yourself it is just really funny. Get over yourself.

You cannot avoid showing your true colors.

 

[toobfreak]

The CMB and red shift are the empirical evidence of the universe popping into existence. The formation of the CMB explains how the universe popped into existence.

The CMB certainly appears to give us a forensic image of the state of affairs about 400,000 years after the Big Bang just after the universe cooled enough to become transparent to radiation, however, red-shift, doppler shift, that is just an effect common at all times to all radiation; I can hear the Doppler Effect every night as the diesel locomotive passes through the sleepy valley below me.

To be sure though, seeing red-shifted light, we must assume that these objects must be very far away and are receding from us very quickly, or at least the light (or space therein) traversing the intervening distance has been affected in such a way to at least make it certainly appear so.

 

[Crepitus]

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It doesn't make sense to me. Just seems like a way to instill fear.

One imaginary being killing another?

You're right, it does kinda make a weird sort of sense.

 

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The CMB certainly appears to give us a forensic image of the state of affairs about 400,000 years after the Big Bang just after the universe cooled enough to become transparent to radiation, however, red-shift, doppler shift, that is just an effect common at all times to all radiation; I can hear the Doppler Effect every night as the diesel locomotive passes through the sleepy valley below me.

To be sure though, seeing red-shifted light, we must assume that these objects must be very far away and are receding from us very quickly, or at least the light (or space therein) traversing the intervening distance has been affected in such a way to at least make it certainly appear so.

Not just a forensic image, the CMB is the smoking gun evidence for paired particle production which is how the universe was created from energy/matter that was not pre-existing. The universe popped into existence through paired particle production and then began to expand and cool.

 

[toobfreak]

Not just a forensic image, the CMB is the smoking gun evidence for paired particle production

Well, forensic in that the CMB leaves behind us a snapshot of an earlier time. As to paired particle production, I'm always careful of observational bias--- you see, if 99 out of 100 times, universes produced balanced levels of paired particles which all neatly self-annihilated, how would we ever know? By definition then, the only universe we can ever know is one where there was enough of one or the other type matter to leave behind some permanent, stable phenomenal cloud of substance.

which is how the universe was created from energy/matter that was not pre-existing. The universe popped into existence through paired particle production and then began to expand and cool.

Well, that certainly explains a lot. Problem with theories is that we always create them to fit observations, but it certainly sounds like a viable possibility. Of course, that still leaves wide open what suddenly caused the paired particle production in the first place (such as two branes colliding, etc.).

 

[my2¢]

I've read in my Bible that we're not to test God. I don't recall reading anything about the rules on the other-way-around.

 

[Donald H]

If you have evidence of anything outside of our universe you'd win a Nobel prize. So you either don't know what evidence is, don't understand the limitation of observing anything outside of our universe or both.

The JWST can't win the Nobel but those associated with the dicoveries might?

Just in case, the C.C. should be thinking of proactive damage control.

Keep the cards and letters coming my friend!

 

[iamwhatiseem]

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It doesn't make sense to me. Just seems like a way to instill fear.

Because he can't.
You won't find a verse in the Bible that explains his power in heaven.
The Devil is one of the high ranking members after all. High enough to have believed he could overthrow him. It is clear that if God was all power in heaven then there would be no possibility of conflict would there?

 

[Donald H]

The CMB certainly appears to give us a forensic image of the state of affairs about 400,000 years after the Big Bang just after the universe cooled enough to become transparent to radiation, however, red-shift, doppler shift, that is just an effect common at all times to all radiation; I can hear the Doppler Effect every night as the diesel locomotive passes through the sleepy valley below me.

To be sure though, seeing red-shifted light, we must assume that these objects must be very far away and are receding from us very quickly, or at least the light (or space therein) traversing the intervening distance has been affected in such a way to at least make it certainly appear so.

I don't think anybody is suggesting that the 'big bang' didn't happen., but science is certainly entertaining the idea that it was just one of many 'big bangs'. See their evidence being presented at any site that features the JWST.

The whole problem with that is that our local big bang is being claimed by Christians to be the god's big bang.

That then raises the threat of their god having to take a back seat to a bigger and more powerful god that came before Yahweh. That can never be accepted by Christian churches! He becomes a 'me too' imposter!

FWIW, it's always been accepted by most people that there was never a beginning to time and space.

 

[Donald H]

Because he can't.
You won't find a verse in the Bible that explains his power in heaven.
The Devil is one of the high ranking members after all. High enough to have believed he could overthrow him. It is clear that if God was all power in heaven then there would be no possibility of conflict would there?

All such discussion on doubting the god's power, or even on whether he existed, is timely at this point in which JWST is seeing beyond the god's big bang question.

 

[Fang]

Thou shalt not kill.

 

[Donald H]

Thou shalt not kill.

Except you can kill your slaves according to the god's word in his bibles!