Why doesn’t Black Lives Matter welcome robust debate with people who disagree?

[pknopp]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Did you say the same when Trump Called for those peacefully protesting to be fired?

When Pence walked out on them?

Why didn't they bring them to the White House to discuss the issues?

What evidence do you have that those protesters didnt also commit acts of violence and vandalism?

LOL.........you don't even know your very recent history.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Did you say the same when Trump Called for those peacefully protesting to be fired?

When Pence walked out on them?

Why didn't they bring them to the White House to discuss the issues?

What evidence do you have that those protesters didnt also commit acts of violence and vandalism?

It doesn't work that way. This is America. What proof do YOU have that they did?

 

[Blues Man]

Why doesn’t Black Lives Matter welcome robust debate with people who disagree?

Because they'd lose?
BLM doesn't want debate, they simply want might.
Like all Tards, they are too convinced of their right and superior position to even legitimize "debate."

Anyone can see that in the light of truly strong debate all their arguments fall apart.

So you disagree that Black lives matter?

 

[Blues Man]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Did you say the same when Trump Called for those peacefully protesting to be fired?

When Pence walked out on them?

Why didn't they bring them to the White House to discuss the issues?

What evidence do you have that those protesters didnt also commit acts of violence and vandalism?

What percentage of the protestors committed acts of violence and vandalism?

 

[Sunsettommy]

This is the reality of the protests the racists here don't want to admit. Peaceful protesters, angry white agitators who loot and vandalize.

Black Protester Recaps Staring Down White Agitator

Ha ha ha, this a problem YOU have since you ignore the opposite many times, there are plenty of videos showing blacks looting, assaulting people.

Your prejudice is so obvious......, you hate against whites is obvious.

And yet, you ignore the fact that many of the most recent Looters and Rioters are white. You want to place all the blame on a skin color (Black). Last week, it was brown.

From the 14 points of Fascism.

• Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
  The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

Today it's the Black community. Last week, it was the Socialists. Before that it was the Brown people. Before that it was the Communists. This directly caused the deaths of over 6 million of one group. But it also caused at least that many deaths of Slavs as well. That brings up the next point.

• Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
  Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

And then the next.

• Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
  Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

And then the next

• Corporate Power is Protected
  The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

And it continues.

• Obsession with National Security
  Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

There are 14 points. When you obtain all 14, the Nation is setup for a Fascist Leader to emerge. We are sitting solid with 12 out of those 14 and attempts to cement the last two. The only two things standing in the way right now to a complete setup for a Fascist takeover is the US Military and Congress.

To give you an idea, in order to setup a fascist Government, the Fascist leader will need to control 2/3rds of the Congress or render it powerless and either control or abolish the Supreme Court. He will also have to get the backing of the Corporate Businesses and the Military. Then either take over or discredit the Free Press and support the presses that fully support the "Leader". The "Leader" doesn't have to eliminate the other side, just render it ineffective.

And the "Leader" is going to bide his time until there is a major National Emergency where he can consolidate his power. In case you haven't noticed, we have two potential national emergencies running right now. And with 12 of the 14 points of Fascism already obtained, it's just a short step to the destruction of the Nation as we know it.

History is a wonderful thing when it's used for good. To deny it is never a good thing. What I am doing is using the Mussolini Manifesto of 1923. You might say it was a fluke but Hitler used it to setup his own Fascist Government in Germany. Hitler didn't invent a thing on how to obtain power. He followed Mussolini's manifesto. And so did Spain but Spain was a more Benevolent version (if you can call it that). Franco didn't take it the last step and go for the Dictator that the other two did and Fascism survived in Spain until at least 1974 and beyond.

There are only two "Manifestos" standing in the way of that happening and that is the Constitution of the United States and the Uniform Code of Military Justice (the Military version of the Constitution). How about we keep those two documents going and throw the rest out instead of the other way around.

Gosh another one who manufacture this unsupported, unquoted belief that I deny whites riots and loot, I have seen the videos of whites doing it. Heck here is MY post YOU responded to:

"Ha ha ha, this a problem YOU have since you ignore the opposite many times, there are plenty of videos showing blacks looting, assaulting people.

Your prejudice is so obvious......, you hate against whites is obvious."

Where do I deny whites riot?

Do you understand the word OPPOSITE?

The rest of your post is gibberish........

 

[Sunsettommy]

BLM was founded on a lie

American Thinker

Where Black Lives Don't Matter

By John Eidson

June 12, 2020

Excerpt:

An exceptionally sharp young woman I know posted a video of a caravan of Millennial bicyclists in Atlanta peacefully protesting the inexcusable police murder of George Floyd. Along the way, the group stopped at a traffic light, where they repeatedly raised their hands in unison to Black Lives Matter's signature chant — "hands up, don't shoot." Apparently, none of them knows about the origin of the organization and its slogan.

Black Lives Matter was founded in the aftermath of the 2014 Ferguson, Missouri police killing of an 18-year-old black American named Michael Brown. Before the investigation of the fatal incident had barely begun, Al Sharpton, one of President Obama's most trusted advisers on race, rushed to Ferguson, where he helped spread an unconfirmed rumor that Brown was killed with his hands in the air while trying to surrender to the police officer who shot him.

With all due respect to the bike-riding protesters, "hands up, don't shoot" is political propaganda of the most poisonous kind. As a matter of fact:

LINK

 

[bripat9643]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Why do you dopes make everything political?
BLM is not a political view. It's a civil rights issue. No one needs to declare their political affiliation to be a supporter.
They don't owe you a voice in their cause.

Statements like that are the reason people believe all TDS morons are suffering from brain damage.

 

[Godboy]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Did you say the same when Trump Called for those peacefully protesting to be fired?

When Pence walked out on them?

Why didn't they bring them to the White House to discuss the issues?

What evidence do you have that those protesters didnt also commit acts of violence and vandalism?

LOL.........you don't even know your very recent history.

If YOU knew it, you would have posted the evidence. Clearly you have no idea what youre talking about.

 

[Godboy]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Did you say the same when Trump Called for those peacefully protesting to be fired?

When Pence walked out on them?

Why didn't they bring them to the White House to discuss the issues?

What evidence do you have that those protesters didnt also commit acts of violence and vandalism?

It doesn't work that way. This is America. What proof do YOU have that they did?

This isnt a court of law, numb nuts. This is the court of public opinion, and i see no evidence that all the protesters you are saying are peaceful, are in fact peaceful.

 

[Godboy]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Did you say the same when Trump Called for those peacefully protesting to be fired?

When Pence walked out on them?

Why didn't they bring them to the White House to discuss the issues?

What evidence do you have that those protesters didnt also commit acts of violence and vandalism?

What percentage of the protestors committed acts of violence and vandalism?

Most.

 

[pknopp]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Did you say the same when Trump Called for those peacefully protesting to be fired?

When Pence walked out on them?

Why didn't they bring them to the White House to discuss the issues?

What evidence do you have that those protesters didnt also commit acts of violence and vandalism?

LOL.........you don't even know your very recent history.

If YOU knew it, you would have posted the evidence. Clearly you have no idea what youre talking about.

I can not show that the football players that Trump called names and called to be fired committed acts of violence because it never happened. I can not link to something that never happened.

 

[IM2]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

So, youre going to explain to them why their lives dont matter?

No, they need to explain why only select black lives matter. They lose their shit if you respond “All Lives Matter” but if you watch how BLM reacts to George Floyd’s tragic death yet ignore David Dorn’s tragic death, it is very clear that only black lives that fit an agenda matter.

BLM is a reminder which apparently many people chose to ignore.

“It’s important for us to also understand that the phrase ‘Black Lives Matter’ simply refers to the notion that there’s a specific vulnerability for African Americans that needs to be addressed. It’s not meant to suggest that other lives don’t matter. It’s to suggest that other folks aren’t experiencing this particular vulnerability.”
— President Barack Obama

Not really, even the Obama administration didn't think BLM was a viable organization:

Friendly Reminder: Multiple Studies Don’t Back Up Any of the Black Lives Matter Talking Points

LINK

So they're saying Black Lives Don't Matter?
BLM is one trick pony, convincing America that blacks lives do matter and thus inspiring people to take action. Exactly what that action is other than protesting remains undefined.

BLM is focused on a very select set of Black Lives that meet the condition of dying while in Police custody or at the hands of Police. Contrast the frequency of this occurrence with the number of Black lives lost on a daily basis to violence.

Why do you whites keep telling yourself these lies? Every year since 1994 I've looked at the UCR. Every year since 1994 whites have led in violent crime. Every time a white cop murders someone black you sorry racists bitches start this bullshit. The police should not be killing anybody who is not armed or who is not actually trying to take the cops life. It looked like he had a gun is not that. In 2018 whites willed 2677 other whites. Blacks killed 2600 other blacks.

There are 30 categories of crimes listed in the UCR. Murder is one category. In 2018, out of the 30 categories of crime, whites lead in 27. Whites are approximately 70 percent of the population and led in 90 percent of the crime categories. Less than 1/2 of 1 percent of the deaths in America were murders. There were a total of 8957 murders in all races in 2018. There were over 12,000 rapes by whites in 2018 alone. Blacks had less than half that with 5,376.

Start talking about white violence.

How am I a white racist because I question BLM? You fling that racist card at every turn. Make sure check the stats on the number of whites killed by police.

Oh you poor misunderstood creature! How can you stand the injustice?

Except that you're not "questioning" BLM. You're seeking to undermine the organization by deflecting from the issue of police brutality, and the very serious problem of American police shooting over 1000 Americans, mostly minorities, on the streets of your nation.

You also seem to be saying that BLM needs to stop black on black crime, before they address the issue of police brutality and over-policing of black communities. These are entirely separate issues, with entirely different solutions.

Every time I see American police interacting with civilians, they're running in, throwing people around and trying to act bad ass before even asking what's going on. Some who says "What's going on?" is attacked, thrown to the ground, swarmed by three of four police, handcuffed and dragged off.

An white American acquaintance, married to a 40 year old middle class black accountant, had her husband nearly shot to death at the convenience store 2 blocks from their house when a customer in the parking lot called police about a large black man casing the local 7-11. Police arrived with guns drawn, and refused to believe her husband when he said "I'm an accountant. I live 2 blocks from here". It wasn't until another white neighbour arrived at the 7/11 and said "I know this man. He's my neighbour", that the officers dropped their guns. The college educated black professional's word wasn't good enough.

Every time a white cop murders someone black they always try to dodge the real problem by brining up their fallacy about black on black crime.

well yes. And we both know why. The cop's actions are indefensible. Sometimes they may be understandable, and not because a cop is overtly racist, but still indefensible. And bringing up black on black crime is simply a bait and switch from having to discuss the even more problematic issue of systemic racism.

Racism was part of this, especially given the record of this department.

 

[IM2]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Because they are a racial supremacist group who murder people openly. I don't think reason is one of the things they stand behind.

They've murdered no one nor do they believe in supremacy.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Because the BLM is a racist hate group that has murdered policeman.
The people who are trying to defend BLM are fighting against reality and losing.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

This is the reality of the protests the racists here don't want to admit. Peaceful protesters, angry white agitators who loot and vandalize.

Black Protester Recaps Staring Down White Agitator

Ha ha ha, this a problem YOU have since you ignore the opposite many times, there are plenty of videos showing blacks looting, assaulting people.

Your prejudice is so obvious......, you hate against whites is obvious.

And yet, you ignore the fact that many of the most recent Looters and Rioters are white. You want to place all the blame on a skin color (Black). Last week, it was brown.

From the 14 points of Fascism.

• Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
  The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

Today it's the Black community. Last week, it was the Socialists. Before that it was the Brown people. Before that it was the Communists. This directly caused the deaths of over 6 million of one group. But it also caused at least that many deaths of Slavs as well. That brings up the next point.

• Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
  Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

And then the next.

• Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
  Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

And then the next

• Corporate Power is Protected
  The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

And it continues.

• Obsession with National Security
  Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

There are 14 points. When you obtain all 14, the Nation is setup for a Fascist Leader to emerge. We are sitting solid with 12 out of those 14 and attempts to cement the last two. The only two things standing in the way right now to a complete setup for a Fascist takeover is the US Military and Congress.

To give you an idea, in order to setup a fascist Government, the Fascist leader will need to control 2/3rds of the Congress or render it powerless and either control or abolish the Supreme Court. He will also have to get the backing of the Corporate Businesses and the Military. Then either take over or discredit the Free Press and support the presses that fully support the "Leader". The "Leader" doesn't have to eliminate the other side, just render it ineffective.

And the "Leader" is going to bide his time until there is a major National Emergency where he can consolidate his power. In case you haven't noticed, we have two potential national emergencies running right now. And with 12 of the 14 points of Fascism already obtained, it's just a short step to the destruction of the Nation as we know it.

History is a wonderful thing when it's used for good. To deny it is never a good thing. What I am doing is using the Mussolini Manifesto of 1923. You might say it was a fluke but Hitler used it to setup his own Fascist Government in Germany. Hitler didn't invent a thing on how to obtain power. He followed Mussolini's manifesto. And so did Spain but Spain was a more Benevolent version (if you can call it that). Franco didn't take it the last step and go for the Dictator that the other two did and Fascism survived in Spain until at least 1974 and beyond.

There are only two "Manifestos" standing in the way of that happening and that is the Constitution of the United States and the Uniform Code of Military Justice (the Military version of the Constitution). How about we keep those two documents going and throw the rest out instead of the other way around.

Gosh another one who manufacture this unsupported, unquoted belief that I deny whites riots and loot, I have seen the videos of whites doing it. Heck here is MY post YOU responded to:

"Ha ha ha, this a problem YOU have since you ignore the opposite many times, there are plenty of videos showing blacks looting, assaulting people.

Your prejudice is so obvious......, you hate against whites is obvious."

Where do I deny whites riot?

Do you understand the word OPPOSITE?

The rest of your post is gibberish........

It's only gibberish to those that are guilty of doing it. Guess what, you are a Fascist Bigot big time.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Did you say the same when Trump Called for those peacefully protesting to be fired?

When Pence walked out on them?

Why didn't they bring them to the White House to discuss the issues?

What evidence do you have that those protesters didnt also commit acts of violence and vandalism?

It doesn't work that way. This is America. What proof do YOU have that they did?

This isnt a court of law, numb nuts. This is the court of public opinion, and i see no evidence that all the protesters you are saying are peaceful, are in fact peaceful.

I see more evidence that the looters and Rioters are NOT black and aren't even from those neighborhoods. I see evidence that it's not race riots. I see evidence that it's imported organized crime. And I see evidence that you are a fascist bigot.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Did you say the same when Trump Called for those peacefully protesting to be fired?

When Pence walked out on them?

Why didn't they bring them to the White House to discuss the issues?

What evidence do you have that those protesters didnt also commit acts of violence and vandalism?

What percentage of the protestors committed acts of violence and vandalism?

Most.

In Denver, day one had violence, looting and rioting by people that were mostly white. Day 2, the Cops were marching with the protesters (not trying to intimidate) and the National Guard was stationed on the street corners without malice. The Looters and Rioters disappeared completely. They moved on to other cities that were more easily influenced. Those rioters and looters are not race related. They are imported Criminals. And the more you type, the more you confirm that you are a Racist Bigot.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Because the BLM is a racist hate group that has murdered policeman.
The people who are trying to defend BLM are fighting against reality and losing.

The BLM has NOT murdered Policemen. They have been very peaceful. You can't justify your bigotry with lying and expect everyone else to buy into it.

 

[bripat9643]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Did you say the same when Trump Called for those peacefully protesting to be fired?

When Pence walked out on them?

Why didn't they bring them to the White House to discuss the issues?

What evidence do you have that those protesters didnt also commit acts of violence and vandalism?

What percentage of the protestors committed acts of violence and vandalism?

Most.

In Denver, day one had violence, looting and rioting by people that were mostly white. Day 2, the Cops were marching with the protesters (not trying to intimidate) and the National Guard was stationed on the street corners without malice. The Looters and Rioters disappeared completely. They moved on to other cities that were more easily influenced. Those rioters and looters are not race related. They are imported Criminals. And the more you type, the more you confirm that you are a Racist Bigot.

What evidence do you have that they were "mostly white?"

 

[bripat9643]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Because the BLM is a racist hate group that has murdered policeman.
The people who are trying to defend BLM are fighting against reality and losing.

The BLM has NOT murdered Policemen. They have been very peaceful. You can't justify your bigotry with lying and expect everyone else to buy into it.

5 cops were murdered in Houston by a member of the BLM.