Why does Jerry Brown say water shortage is from global warming??

[TooTall]

dear, I will bet you $10,000 there was no lie. Would you care to make a legal bet. This is yes or no question. I'll await to see you running away with your liberal tale between you legs once again.

in the last 30 years, no new reservoirs

Diamond Valley Lake is a man-made offstream reservoir located near Hemet, California, United States. It is one of the largest reservoirs in Southern California and also one of the newest. With a capacity of 800,000 acre feet (990,000,000 m3), the lake nearly doubled the area’s surface water storage capacity and provides additional water supplies for drought, peak summer, and emergency needs.[2]

The Metropolitan Water District of Southern California began the $1.9 billion construction project in 1995. Filling of the lake, by way of the Colorado River Aqueduct, began in 1999 and was completed in 2003.[3] The lake is currently served by the Inland Feeder.

The Los Vaqueros Reservoir was completed by the Contra Costa Water District (CCWD) in 1998 to improve the quality of drinking water for its 550,000 customers in Central and Eastern Contra Costa County in Northern California. The name vaquero is Spanish and means "cowboy" in English. The reservoir is accessible via Vasco Road from Brentwood, California and Livermore, California. An expansion project begun in 2010 raised the height of the dam to increase storage capacity from 100,000 acre-ft to 160,000 acre-ft of water.

New Spicer Meadow Reservoir is a reservoir in Stanislaus National Forest in the Sierra Nevada, in Tuolumne County, near the Alpine County line, at an elevation of 6,621 feet (2,018 m). The 189,000 acre foot (233,000,000 m3) reservoir is formed by New Spicer Meadow Dam on Highland Creek, a tributary of the Stanislaus River. The 265-foot (81 m) tall dam is composed of rock-fill and was completed in 1989. Additional water is diverted from the North Fork of the Stanislaus River by the North Fork Diversion Dam and a two-mile (3 km) tunnel. Downstream from the dam, the water continues flowing in Highland Creek until it meets the North Fork of the Stanislaus River.

Calaveras County Water District owns the dam. Water from the reservoir supplies drinking water and water for recreation and irrigation. Also, along with the Northern California Power Agency, the water district sells electricity from the 5.5-MW hydroelectric plant at the base of the dam. They also operate the 253-MW Collierville Powerhouse on the North Fork of the Stanislaus River.

The Olivenhain Dam is a gravity dam near Escondido, California. The dam was constructed between 1998 and 2003 as part of San Diego's Emergency Storage Project with the primary purpose of water supply for municipal use. It does not sit on a river or stream but is supplied with water by a system of pumps and pipes. The dam is connected to Lake Hodges and the Second San Diego Aqueduct. It is constructed of roller-compacted concrete and is the first of its type in California.

Seven Oaks Reservoir is a reservoir on the Santa Ana River in San Bernardino County, California, about 8 miles (13 km) northeast of the city of Redlands. The reservoir is formed by Seven Oaks Dam, which was completed in 1999.

The United States Army Corps of Engineers built the zoned earth-and-rock-fill dam at the foot of the San Bernardino Mountains to protect against flooding in the eastern portion of the Greater Los Angeles Area. Its maximum height is 550 feet (168 m) above the pre-existing streambed and 650 feet (198 m) above the lowest portion of the foundation. The reservoir is medium-sized at 147,970 acre feet (182,520,000 m3), though it is a bit large for a reservoir whose sole purpose is flood control, which means that water is released as soon as safely possible, while still slow enough to allow water to seep into the streambed, recharging the groundwater aquifer. Also, releases are coordinated with Prado Dam, which is 40 miles (60 km) downstream.

I find it rather interesting that all of the examples you listed were started under the Administration of Governor Pete Wilson, a Republican.

I find it interesting you want to give credit to Wilson, when it was our current Governor's dad who signed off on this in 1960:

California State Water Project - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The Los Vaqueros Reservoir was completed by the Contra Costa Water District(CCWD) in 1998

The 265-foot (81 m) tall dam is composed of rock-fill and was completed in 1989.

The dam was constructed between 1998 and 2003

Seven Oaks Dam, which was completed in 1999.
The Los Vaqueros Reservoir was completed by theContra Costa Water District(CCWD) in 1998

The 265-foot (81 m) tall dam is composed of rock-fill and was completed in 1989.

Seven Oaks Dam, which was completed in 1999.

This was from your link and clearly shows when the projects were completed.

And Nixon was president when men landed on the moon. Do you give him the credit, I don't, JFK deserves it.

I give JFK credit as well.
Were the Projects listed started in 1960?

 

[TooTall]

They have a shortage because their policymakers lacked the forsight to build enough water desalination plants.

Some background:

Carlsbad Desalination Project Home

"The Carlsbad Desalination Project consists of a 50 million gallon per day (56,000 acre-feet per year (AFY)) seawater desalination plant and the associated 10-mile water delivery pipeline. The project is located at the Encina Power Station in the City of Carlsbad. Desalination has evolved into a desirable water supply alternative by tapping the largest reservoir in the world - the Pacific Ocean. The technology, available for decades, is at work in many arid areas of the world including the Middle East, the Mediterranean and the Caribbean. A 30-year Water Purchase Agreement is in place between the San Diego County Water Authority (SDCWA) and Poseidon for the entire output of the plant. Construction on the plant and pipeline is under way and the Project will be delivering water to the businesses and resident in San Diego County by late 2015."

More at the link above.

Here is part of the "more at the link."

"After twelve years of planning and over six years in the state’s permitting process, the Carlsbad Desalination Project has received final approvals from every required regulatory and permitting agency in the state, including the California Coastal Commission, State Lands Commission and Regional Water Quality Control Board."

18 years of state regulators and environmentalist protests and a much needed project will be finished.

You made a good point, and one wonders why the regulatory agencies took so long.

That said, think how different the world would if only G. W. Bush had needed regulators and protesters to sign off on his invasion of Iraq.

I thought that having the Congress vote for the resolution and the UN saying Saddam was in material breach of the cease fire in UN Res 1441 was a helluva lot of regulations.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

They have a shortage because their policymakers lacked the forsight to build enough water desalination plants.

Some background:

Carlsbad Desalination Project Home

"The Carlsbad Desalination Project consists of a 50 million gallon per day (56,000 acre-feet per year (AFY)) seawater desalination plant and the associated 10-mile water delivery pipeline. The project is located at the Encina Power Station in the City of Carlsbad. Desalination has evolved into a desirable water supply alternative by tapping the largest reservoir in the world - the Pacific Ocean. The technology, available for decades, is at work in many arid areas of the world including the Middle East, the Mediterranean and the Caribbean. A 30-year Water Purchase Agreement is in place between the San Diego County Water Authority (SDCWA) and Poseidon for the entire output of the plant. Construction on the plant and pipeline is under way and the Project will be delivering water to the businesses and resident in San Diego County by late 2015."

More at the link above.

Here is part of the "more at the link."

"After twelve years of planning and over six years in the state’s permitting process, the Carlsbad Desalination Project has received final approvals from every required regulatory and permitting agency in the state, including the California Coastal Commission, State Lands Commission and Regional Water Quality Control Board."

18 years of state regulators and environmentalist protests and a much needed project will be finished.

You made a good point, and one wonders why the regulatory agencies took so long.

That said, think how different the world would if only G. W. Bush had needed regulators and protesters to sign off on his invasion of Iraq.

I thought that having the Congress vote for the resolution and the UN saying Saddam was in material breach of the cease fire in UN Res 1441 was a helluva lot of regulations.

not to mention the CIA said it was a slam dunk!! Liberals are so stupid that they imagine regulation is magical. The USSR and Soviet Union and common sense demonstrate that it is not.

 

[Muhammed]

They have a shortage because their policymakers lacked the forsight to build enough water desalination plants.

Some background:

Carlsbad Desalination Project Home

"The Carlsbad Desalination Project consists of a 50 million gallon per day (56,000 acre-feet per year (AFY)) seawater desalination plant and the associated 10-mile water delivery pipeline. The project is located at the Encina Power Station in the City of Carlsbad. Desalination has evolved into a desirable water supply alternative by tapping the largest reservoir in the world - the Pacific Ocean. The technology, available for decades, is at work in many arid areas of the world including the Middle East, the Mediterranean and the Caribbean. A 30-year Water Purchase Agreement is in place between the San Diego County Water Authority (SDCWA) and Poseidon for the entire output of the plant. Construction on the plant and pipeline is under way and the Project will be delivering water to the businesses and resident in San Diego County by late 2015."

More at the link above.

Here is part of the "more at the link."

"After twelve years of planning and over six years in the state’s permitting process, the Carlsbad Desalination Project has received final approvals from every required regulatory and permitting agency in the state, including the California Coastal Commission, State Lands Commission and Regional Water Quality Control Board."

18 years of state regulators and environmentalist protests and a much needed project will be finished.

You made a good point, and one wonders why the regulatory agencies took so long.

That said, think how different the world would if only G. W. Bush had needed regulators and protesters to sign off on his invasion of Iraq.

Saddam Hussein would likely have a nuclear arsenal by now and would probably rule most of the Middle East.

How so? Given the sanctions and no fly zone established by the UN, the Sunni - Shiite 1,500 year long conflict, Iran and Israel watching him closely, and an economy in ruin.

Read some history.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I find it rather interesting that all of the examples you listed were started under the Administration of Governor Pete Wilson, a Republican.

I find it interesting you want to give credit to Wilson, when it was our current Governor's dad who signed off on this in 1960:

California State Water Project - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The Los Vaqueros Reservoir was completed by the Contra Costa Water District(CCWD) in 1998

The 265-foot (81 m) tall dam is composed of rock-fill and was completed in 1989.

The dam was constructed between 1998 and 2003

Seven Oaks Dam, which was completed in 1999.
The Los Vaqueros Reservoir was completed by theContra Costa Water District(CCWD) in 1998

The 265-foot (81 m) tall dam is composed of rock-fill and was completed in 1989.

Seven Oaks Dam, which was completed in 1999.

This was from your link and clearly shows when the projects were completed.

And Nixon was president when men landed on the moon. Do you give him the credit, I don't, JFK deserves it.

I give JFK credit as well.
Were the Projects listed started in 1960?

Probably not. Remember, Mercury then Gemini and then the Moon with Apollo. I'm sure the planning, or the talking began by 1960, keep in mind in California Whiskey is for drinking and water is for fighting.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Some background:

Carlsbad Desalination Project Home

"The Carlsbad Desalination Project consists of a 50 million gallon per day (56,000 acre-feet per year (AFY)) seawater desalination plant and the associated 10-mile water delivery pipeline. The project is located at the Encina Power Station in the City of Carlsbad. Desalination has evolved into a desirable water supply alternative by tapping the largest reservoir in the world - the Pacific Ocean. The technology, available for decades, is at work in many arid areas of the world including the Middle East, the Mediterranean and the Caribbean. A 30-year Water Purchase Agreement is in place between the San Diego County Water Authority (SDCWA) and Poseidon for the entire output of the plant. Construction on the plant and pipeline is under way and the Project will be delivering water to the businesses and resident in San Diego County by late 2015."

More at the link above.

Here is part of the "more at the link."

"After twelve years of planning and over six years in the state’s permitting process, the Carlsbad Desalination Project has received final approvals from every required regulatory and permitting agency in the state, including the California Coastal Commission, State Lands Commission and Regional Water Quality Control Board."

18 years of state regulators and environmentalist protests and a much needed project will be finished.

You made a good point, and one wonders why the regulatory agencies took so long.

That said, think how different the world would if only G. W. Bush had needed regulators and protesters to sign off on his invasion of Iraq.

Saddam Hussein would likely have a nuclear arsenal by now and would probably rule most of the Middle East.

How so? Given the sanctions and no fly zone established by the UN, the Sunni - Shiite 1,500 year long conflict, Iran and Israel watching him closely, and an economy in ruin.

Read some history.

That's enigmatic, is it meant as an ad hominem, or have I misstated a fact?

 

[Harry Dresden]

there is no proof whatsoever yet he proclaims it with great confidence much like other liberals say "hands up don't shoot" and "Romney paid no taxes" with great confidence. The water shortage comes from a 60% increase in population in the last 30 years, no new reservoirs , and
letting 70% of rain water run off into the ocean.

Jerry Brown's lie seems especially egregious since, 1) it is a lie to absolve himself and liberals for responsibility for the shortage, and 2) it is a very dishonest way to promote global warming.

Really, the only response I feel you deserve is: Fuck you!

Governor Brown has been Governor for a little over four years, before he was elected CA had 24 years of Republican Governors and four years and 10 months of a Democratic Governor, since Brown last served as Governor.


George Deukmejian (R) 1983–1991 June 6, 1928
Pete Wilson (R) 1991–1999 August 23, 1933 (age 81)
Gray Davis (D) 1999–2003 December 26, 1942 (age 72)
Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) 2003–2011 July 30, 1947 (age 67)

All of CA troubles can be laid at the feet of the Republican Party and GOP Governors beginning with Deuklmejian. Davis inherited 16 years of tax cuts and a push by the minority in the St. Senate and Assembly to fill our prisons, build new prisons and cut the resources geared to divert or rehabilitate offenders from the system.

Today, low level substance abusers and petty criminals are in prison for 25 to life because they committed a violent felony years before, and committed a petty theft, due to the short sighted and very expensive three strikes law.

Probation and Parole had been cut to the bone, though under Gov. Brown and recent law changes, the Republican Minority has been symied in their efforts in the Legislature to prevent practical and cost effective policies. Today more resources have been provided to local law enforces to supervise offenders released early and divert juveniles from kiddie prison (CYA) and provide services to them and their family in the home community.

EB is stupid and ignorant and thus doesn't seem to know it.

All of what I wrote can be verified by a few Google searches, but the willfully and ignorant, and fools like EB, will continue to post lies and idiot-grams.

All of CA troubles can be laid at the feet of the Republican Party and GOP Governors

all of them?......every single one?.....the Democrats just ate their lunch all that time?....

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Here is part of the "more at the link."

"After twelve years of planning and over six years in the state’s permitting process, the Carlsbad Desalination Project has received final approvals from every required regulatory and permitting agency in the state, including the California Coastal Commission, State Lands Commission and Regional Water Quality Control Board."

18 years of state regulators and environmentalist protests and a much needed project will be finished.

You made a good point, and one wonders why the regulatory agencies took so long.

That said, think how different the world would if only G. W. Bush had needed regulators and protesters to sign off on his invasion of Iraq.

Saddam Hussein would likely have a nuclear arsenal by now and would probably rule most of the Middle East.

How so? Given the sanctions and no fly zone established by the UN, the Sunni - Shiite 1,500 year long conflict, Iran and Israel watching him closely, and an economy in ruin.

Read some history.

That's enigmatic, is it meant as an ad hominem, or have I misstated a fact?

Wry is a liberal so will make no sense whatsoever. After 22,000 posts he still cant say one intelligent thing in defense of liberalism. Ask him and he'll try to change the subject rather than confront and learn from his total ignorance.

 

[TooTall]

I find it rather interesting that all of the examples you listed were started under the Administration of Governor Pete Wilson, a Republican.

I find it interesting you want to give credit to Wilson, when it was our current Governor's dad who signed off on this in 1960:

California State Water Project - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The Los Vaqueros Reservoir was completed by the Contra Costa Water District(CCWD) in 1998

The 265-foot (81 m) tall dam is composed of rock-fill and was completed in 1989.

The dam was constructed between 1998 and 2003

Seven Oaks Dam, which was completed in 1999.
The Los Vaqueros Reservoir was completed by theContra Costa Water District(CCWD) in 1998

The 265-foot (81 m) tall dam is composed of rock-fill and was completed in 1989.

Seven Oaks Dam, which was completed in 1999.

This was from your link and clearly shows when the projects were completed.

And Nixon was president when men landed on the moon. Do you give him the credit, I don't, JFK deserves it.

I give JFK credit as well.
Were the Projects listed started in 1960?

Probably not. Remember, Mercury then Gemini and then the Moon with Apollo. I'm sure the planning, or the talking began by 1960, keep in mind in California Whiskey is for drinking and water is for fighting.

 

[Liminal]

You made a good point, and one wonders why the regulatory agencies took so long.

That said, think how different the world would if only G. W. Bush had needed regulators and protesters to sign off on his invasion of Iraq.

Saddam Hussein would likely have a nuclear arsenal by now and would probably rule most of the Middle East.

How so? Given the sanctions and no fly zone established by the UN, the Sunni - Shiite 1,500 year long conflict, Iran and Israel watching him closely, and an economy in ruin.

Read some history.

That's enigmatic, is it meant as an ad hominem, or have I misstated a fact?

Wry is a liberal so will make no sense whatsoever. After 22,000 posts he still cant say one intelligent thing in defense of liberalism. Ask him and he'll try to change the subject rather than confront and learn from his total ignorance.

I got one, liberals believe in science, and you don't.

 

[TooTall]

I find it rather interesting that all of the examples you listed were started under the Administration of Governor Pete Wilson, a Republican.

I find it interesting you want to give credit to Wilson, when it was our current Governor's dad who signed off on this in 1960:

California State Water Project - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The Los Vaqueros Reservoir was completed by the Contra Costa Water District(CCWD) in 1998

The 265-foot (81 m) tall dam is composed of rock-fill and was completed in 1989.

The dam was constructed between 1998 and 2003

Seven Oaks Dam, which was completed in 1999.
The Los Vaqueros Reservoir was completed by theContra Costa Water District(CCWD) in 1998

The 265-foot (81 m) tall dam is composed of rock-fill and was completed in 1989.

Seven Oaks Dam, which was completed in 1999.

This was from your link and clearly shows when the projects were completed.

And Nixon was president when men landed on the moon. Do you give him the credit, I don't, JFK deserves it.

I give JFK credit as well.
Were the Projects listed started in 1960?

Probably not. Remember, Mercury then Gemini and then the Moon with Apollo. I'm sure the planning, or the talking began by 1960, keep in mind in California Whiskey is for drinking and water is for fighting.

Can I give JFK credit for the space shuttle?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I got one, liberals believe in science, and you don't.

Brown uses science to conclude that drought is caused by global warming?
You use science to conclude that drought is caused by global warming after I have shown you major science on that subject?
Liberals look at Chinese capitalism after it has eliminated 40% of world poverty and conclude that socialism is better??

See why we say a liberal is anti-science??

 

[jasonnfree]

You made a good point, and one wonders why the regulatory agencies took so long.

That said, think how different the world would if only G. W. Bush had needed regulators and protesters to sign off on his invasion of Iraq.

Saddam Hussein would likely have a nuclear arsenal by now and would probably rule most of the Middle East.

How so? Given the sanctions and no fly zone established by the UN, the Sunni - Shiite 1,500 year long conflict, Iran and Israel watching him closely, and an economy in ruin.

Read some history.

That's enigmatic, is it meant as an ad hominem, or have I misstated a fact?

Wry is a liberal so will make no sense whatsoever. After 22,000 posts he still cant say one intelligent thing in defense of liberalism. Ask him and he'll try to change the subject rather than confront and learn from his total ignorance.

We say intelligent things Ed. I think that you just don't recognize it. One thing in defense of liberalism - Social Security. Your turn to name one specific good thing in defense of republicanism.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. One thing in defense of liberalism - Social Security. .

utterly stupid and liberal as always. Take 15% of your life time income and put it in a private account and the average American is a millionaire. Does SS make anyone a millionaire worth $1.4 million?? No they give you dog food money. You look at what is in effect horrible liberal theft and conclude it is a good thing!! LIberals are insane as well as stupid.

 

[jasonnfree]

Nazis in Europe are Right just as they are in the US.

Too stupid as always!! In America big govt socialists are leftist. A child would know that. To say Hitler Stalin and Mao were opposites is 100% stupid and liberal given that were obviously identical big govt liberals and would be seen that way by our Founders.

Does the liberal understand? Our founders were not against big liberal nazi govt and for big liberal commie govt they were against big liberal govt, period!!

Simple enough?

Hitler was pretty much in line with today's republicans when it came to the hatred of labor unions, minorities, and intellectuals.

 

[Liminal]

I got one, liberals believe in science, and you don't.

Brown uses science to conclude that drought is caused by global warming?
You use science to conclude that drought is caused by global warming after I have shown you major science on that subject?
Liberals look at Chinese capitalism after it has eliminated 40% of world poverty and conclude that socialism is better??

See why we say a liberal is anti-science??

No, and neither do you.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. Your turn to name one specific good thing in defense of republicanism.

too stupid, Republicans support freedom from govt as our Founders did. If we had freedom and capitalism in health care prices would be reduced 80% and 10-20 years would be added to our life expectancies.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I got one, liberals believe in science, and you don't.

Brown uses science to conclude that drought is caused by global warming?
You use science to conclude that drought is caused by global warming after I have shown you major science on that subject?
Liberals look at Chinese capitalism after it has eliminated 40% of world poverty and conclude that socialism is better??

See why we say a liberal is anti-science??

No, and neither do you.

neither do i what???????????????????

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Hitler was pretty much in line with today's republicans when it came to the hatred of labor unions, minorities, and intellectuals.

too stupid conservatives are intellectuals. they look at china and see how capitalism has a eliminated 40% of world poverty. Liberals look at it and conclude socialism is better.

Conservatives believe as our founders did in natural law. Liberals have no idea what natural law is, let alone why it is the basis for our government..

 

[jasonnfree]

. One thing in defense of liberalism - Social Security. .

utterly stupid and liberal as always. Take 15% of your life time income and put it in a private account and the average American is a millionaire. Does SS make anyone a millionaire worth $1.4 million?? No they give you dog food money. You look at what is in effect horrible liberal theft and conclude it is a good thing!! LIberals are insane as well as stupid.

It's a fact that social security as kept millions out of the poor house. A fact. Is there any data on the number of people who followed your fantasy retirement plan? I remember people trying your right wing fantasy retirement plan who lost lots of money in the market crash in the mid 80's under reagan. Many little guys lost big money in the market crash in 2008 when bush the dumber was running things. Both republicans. Hmmm...suspicious. Face it. The market's for the wealthy, not the little guy, as if republicans ever cared about the little guy anyway.