SavannahMann
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How would you have felt if countries of the world supported Iraq when it was invaded by America in 2003? This is the situation at hand for the many people in Russia that support their country and who have their sons fighting in the war knowing that there are other countries of the world, who are sending money or weapons to Ukraine to be used against the Russians.
It is true that there are many problems in the world. And one can argue if we are looking at this from a moral perspective that there are even greater problems in other areas of the world compared to Ukraine. There’s warfare in Ethiopia, Yemen, Sudan. And for some years for every day women in Afghanistan have had to live as slaves you might even say the same thing for women in Iran.
You talk about a treaty with Ukraine. I’m sure that throughout history there have been treaties between two countries but then a third country invades one of those two countries and the world reacts to it. This is the situation at hand. We saw this when America invaded Iraq in 2003 some country supported the United States others did not. Now it seems that Russia today is not able to get the same type of support that America did. Although the neutrality of China and India is something to look at because there are billions of people in these two countries alone, and they are neutral toward the Russia Ukraine war.
there are countries of the world and various entities that felt that America has acted illegally in various militaristic affairs. So whatever point you bring up about a treaty can be debated.
Of course, you know that people can feel bad for Ukrainians, but also recognize the fact that some number of Ukrainians are actually pro- Russian. It’s a war where there’s good guys on both sides that’s the case in many wars of history.
Interesting comparison. Let’s look at the comparison for a moment. And we can expand upon it.
For Iraq the United States spent months earning and telling not only Iraq but the world we would invade. We made our case publicly. We didn’t pretend we wouldn’t go in and announce it after the fact. For months we told everyone we would invade.
Russia denied it. They said the Western Nations were lying when they warned that Russia was getting ready to invade. Russia swore it wasn’t going to invade right up to an hour after the invasion had begun. Then Russia said they were conducting a limited military action for special security needs.
Russia lied about their intentions.
Let’s expand upon this. What shocked the world on December 7 1941 was the attack prior to the declaration of war. We know the history. The declaration was delayed by the Embassy. If there was ever any intention to deliver it before the attack. Thirty minutes isn’t much warning after all.
The World was outraged. That just wasn’t how things were done.
Today the World is angry at Russia. And Russia like Japan in 1941 has done it to themselves. Russia decided to lie. They lied. And they denounced those who warned it was coming.
Now which course of action is more honorable? America was wrong about the existence of WMD’s. The evidence seemed to indicate it. But they were wrong. However even the most America Hating shill for Russia would have to admit that America told the truth about their intentions. While Russia lied and then kept lying through to today about why they invaded.
So your comparison is interesting as it makes Russia look even worse.