WATCH: Glenns full interview with Senator Rand Paul
3/7/13
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RAND PAUL: Yeah, Im not going after people necessarily caring a rifle around. That would be half of the South, and myself included. So ‑‑ and half of my staff. So now I am not talking about that but I am talking about if youve been investigating a group and obviously you see them going into the World Trade Center basement with a bomb, you know, lethal force can be used at many stages and always has been. Same with police. Police use lethal force all the time. If someones robbing a liquor store, you dont get a warrant and you call out stop and if they dont stop, you get shot if youve got a weapon and youre a threat to people.
So but whats interesting is the president wants to answer the question we are not asking: Can you use lethal force when someone is imminently using lethal force. And the reason we worry about this is his drone strike program overseas, he says that you have to be an imminent threat but you dont have to be immediate. So if that standards going to be used in the United States, were concerned that that could be somebody sitting in a diner.
GLENN: The ‑‑ Van Jones came out and supported you.
RAND PAUL: Hey, we got Code Pink too.
GLENN: I know. Im not sure I believe either of them but Ill ‑‑ you know, thats fine if ‑‑ I mean, I dont know why all of a sudden the Bill of Rights means something.
RAND PAUL: Heres the thing, Glenn: This is an issue that does get people who believe in liberty on the left and right, and there are people who do have consistent, sincere beliefs. Like Ron Wyden I thinks a good man. I dont agree with him on most economic liberty issues, but on civil liberties he and I have a lot of agreement.
The other thing about this is if were ever to grow as a party, the Republican Party to grow, we need to interest young people who are interested in civil liberties who may not be quite with us on the economic issues yet.
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GLENN: Yeah. The Southern Poverty Law Center just came out with a new study. Shows that these, quote, patriot groups are a danger and pose a terrorist threat, an increasing terrorist threat. Thats their language. So youve got to be really careful.
One last question, Senator, and well let you go: Are you going to vote for Brennan?
RAND PAUL: Were hoping to get an announcement from the White House this morning, and I dont intend to. Were trying to get a statement this morning that confirms that they are not going to target com ‑‑ not going to target Americans who are not engaged in combat in America for targeted killing. And my argument really still is mainly with that ‑‑ with the idea, not the person. Im concerned, though, that Brennan really, its been like pulling teeth to get him to say hell support the Constitution and so my inclination is still to vote, you know, not letting end debate if I dont get the information. If I get the information, you know, you and I have had this discussion before. My opinion a lot of times has been to give deference even to people I disagree with, but I wont vote for him on any of the votes if I dont get information from the White House saying they are going to adhere to the Constitution. I hate doing that. ‑‑
GLENN: Senator ‑‑
RAND PAUL: I know I lost a little bit there, but ‑‑
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