Why do poor communities exist in America?

[WinterBorn]

Promoting and providing for the general welfare is why the power to tax exists, along with the common defense.

And there are programs that are designed for providing for the general welfare. UC is not one of them.

 

[danielpalos]

No one is imposing for-cause criteria.

Cognitive dissonance. It does nothing to solve any problems.

 

[danielpalos]

No, it is not. It is exactly equal protection under the law, for all parties.

Only if you bear false-witness about it with a McCarthy era phrase in our pledge "right-winger". That could be an impeachable offense in public but not private venues.

 

[WinterBorn]

Employment is at the will of either party, regardless of the weeks involved.
Is your plan going to involve automatic stimulus payments for those who run out of unemployment compensation after twenty-six weeks?

It could, in emergency situations, such as what happened with Covid-19. But that is not automatic.

 

[danielpalos]

It could, in emergency situations, such as what happened with Covid-19. But that is not automatic.

Then, it is worthless for solving simple poverty; why do you Want problems not Solutions, person on the Right-Wing?

 

[WinterBorn]

Cognitive dissonance. It does nothing to solve any problems.

UC solves the problem of temporary unemployment. Other problems have other solutions.

My adjusted UC solves the problems you have been screaming about.

 

[WinterBorn]

Then, it is worthless for solving simple poverty; why do you Want problems not Solutions, person on the Right-Wing?

There are programs that work to solve simple poverty.

UC solves problems of temporary unemployment. That is why it was created and it's mission.

Student loans don't solve simple poverty either. I am sure you could completely revamp the program to make it help with simple poverty, like making it available to non-students and making it so no one has to pay back the loans. But student loans were not designed to solve simple poverty and neither was UC.

 

[danielpalos]

UC solves the problem of temporary unemployment. Other problems have other solutions.

My adjusted UC solves the problems you have been screaming about.

The problem is, poverty is not as temporary. The issue is employment is at the will of either party not You.

 

[danielpalos]

There are programs that work to solve simple poverty.

UC solves problems of temporary unemployment. That is why it was created and it's mission.

Student loans don't solve simple poverty either. I am sure you could completely revamp the program to make it help with simple poverty, like making it available to non-students and making it so no one has to pay back the loans. But student loans were not designed to solve simple poverty and neither was UC.

Cognitive dissonance? Why a War on Poverty for over a generation if what You proclaim contains Any "gospel Truth"?

 

[WinterBorn]

The problem is, poverty is not as temporary. The issue is employment is at the will of either party not You.

I have not made this about me. I addressed the complaint you had about the current UC.

And, as I said, UC was not designed to solve simple poverty. And it was, by its very nature, designed to be temporary.

 

[WinterBorn]

Cognitive dissonance? Why a War on Poverty for over a generation if what You proclaim contains Any "gospel Truth"?

Many issues for poverty involve bad decisions or choices by the people. That cannot be solved. Even in situations where full welfare, gov't housing and food stamps are given, many people remain poor. Being successful does require action on the part of the individual.

 

[danielpalos]

I have not made this about me. I addressed the complaint you had about the current UC.

And, as I said, UC was not designed to solve simple poverty. And it was, by its very nature, designed to be temporary.

The law is the law, not You.

 

[danielpalos]

Many issues for poverty involve bad decisions or choices by the people. That cannot be solved. Even in situations where full welfare, gov't housing and food stamps are given, many people remain poor. Being successful does require action on the part of the individual.

Why have capitalism if there are no capital solutions to be found?

 

[WinterBorn]

The law is the law, not You.

And my solution fits the law. Equal protection under the law means everyone gets the same benefit, regardless of how they became unemployed.

 

[WinterBorn]

Why have capitalism if there are no capital solutions to be found?

There are capital solutions to be found.

However, what you want is for the gov't to solve poverty for people who will not lift a finger to solve their own poverty. No statute, law, or part of the US Constitution requires that.

 

[danielpalos]

And my solution fits the law. Equal protection under the law means everyone gets the same benefit, regardless of how they became unemployed.

In other words, you still prefer to increase the cost to the taxpayer by creating more Rules instead of individual Liberty.

 

[danielpalos]

There are capital solutions to be found.

However, what you want is for the gov't to solve poverty for people who will not lift a finger to solve their own poverty. No statute, law, or part of the US Constitution requires that.

In political economics, automatic stabilizers should be preferred to more arbitrary and more capricious public policies enactable by the legislature. An executive order would be simpler.

 

[WinterBorn]

In other words, you still prefer to increase the cost to the taxpayer by creating more Rules instead of individual Liberty.

People are just as free as before. They are free to take care of themselves. Getting UC for 26 weeks does not limit a person's liberty.

 

[WinterBorn]

In political economics, automatic stabilizers should be preferred to more arbitrary and more capricious public policies enactable by the legislature. An executive order would be simpler.

Again, no statute, law or part of the US Constitution requires that people be paid, without consequences, for doing nothing.

Rather than spend billions of dollars supporting people and perpetuating the poverty, spend that money on education and job training so they can support themselves.

 

[danielpalos]

People are just as free as before. They are free to take care of themselves. Getting UC for 26 weeks does not limit a person's liberty.

Why that arbitrary and capricious for-cause requirement in an at-will employment State?