Why do poor communities exist in America?

[WinterBorn]

Any "race to the bottom" is due to Bad legislative management. Congress could easily tax firms leaving for cheaper labor at the federal minimum wage rate regardless of where they get their labor.

They could? You mean like CA taxing businesses who moved out of the state?

But how exactly do you tax a company that outsources their labor?

 

[WinterBorn]

How about balancing the budget?

Great idea. But irrelevant to the topic at hand.

 

[WinterBorn]

Some on the left are advocating for equal protection of our at-will employment laws for unemployment compensation to help solve simple poverty and improve the efficiency of our economy.

Who, besides you, are advocating using unemployment compensation to solve simple poverty?

 

[WinterBorn]

You confuse means tested welfare with a more efficient automatic stabilizer. Besides, how well did black codes work.

Unemployment compensation that bears true witness to our at-will employment laws is more cost effective than means testing and could result in lowering your individual income tax burden since more people will be circulating money and paying general taxes on it. A positive multiplier will ensure Capitalists still get Richer.

What you want to do will turn unemployment compensation into welfare.

Currently, Unemployment Compensation is not paid for with tax dollars, is only temporary (so the expense is far less), is only used to help workers manage a temporary setback, and is only for those who lost their job through no fault of their own.

You want Unemployment Compensation to be available to every person who is not working, even if they quit their job or were fired for cause, have it paid for from the tax coffers, have no end to the benefits, and increase the amount paid dramatically (to $31,200.00).

 

[danielpalos]

sorry-----you are naive. HOOD money is neither reported nor taxed. Lots of
the existing professions are not "controlled"-----no unions, no pensions, etc----
not "credit checkable"

Don't you believe that is a problem under Capitalism? Unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed would mean more market friendliness and greater adherence to standard accounting practices.

 

[danielpalos]

I haven't read an answer to the question that I have posed to you twice. Answer it and I will answer yours.

Please repost your question in a more concise and cogent manner.

 

[danielpalos]

They could? You mean like CA taxing businesses who moved out of the state?

But how exactly do you tax a company that outsources their labor?

Not at all. That is just You begging the question instead of pussy. I am only referring to Congress regarding firms leaving for cheaper labor outside the US.

 

[WinterBorn]

Yes, it is. Means testing in our republic is by definition not very market friendly. Sorry you appeal to right-wing fantasy rather than economics.

Means testing prevents rampant fraud. The cost is minimal and the savings would be huge.

If you cannot show you need the money to live, but just want it for fun, you have no business dipping into people's tax money.

 

[danielpalos]

Who, besides you, are advocating using unemployment compensation to solve simple poverty?

Anyone who actually understands economics won't disagree with me.

 

[WinterBorn]

Not at all. That is just You begging the question instead of pussy. I am only referring to Congress regarding firms leaving for cheaper labor outside the US.

If they leave, how do you tax them?

And those taxes would simply be passed on to the consumer.

 

[danielpalos]

What you want to do will turn unemployment compensation into welfare.

That is just You begging that question.

 

[WinterBorn]

Anyone who actually understands economics won't disagree with me.

Not what I asked. You said "some on the left are advocating for it". Who?

 

[danielpalos]

If they leave, how do you tax them?

And those taxes would simply be passed on to the consumer.

They still have a corporate presence in the US. Why complain about social services if you want lower taxes?

 

[WinterBorn]

That is just You begging that question.

No, that is me explaining it. I notice you did not quote the rest of my post. Coward.

 

[danielpalos]

Not what I asked. You said "some on the left are advocating for it". Who?

Anyone who understands economics and wants to improve our economy.

 

[danielpalos]

No, that is me explaining it. I notice you did not quote the rest of my post. Coward.

Your rationale is lacking. Can you re-phrase your explanation so it is more cogent?

 

[WinterBorn]

They still have a corporate presence in the US. Why complain about social services if you want lower taxes?

I do not complain about social services for those who need it. I believe we, as a people, should take care of the less fortunate in our country.

But I do not believe we should have our money taken by force to pay people who simply CHOOSE not to work and who refuse to prove they need it.

 

[WinterBorn]

Anyone who understands economics and wants to improve our economy.

No. What you advocate does not even come close to a positive for the economy.

 

[WinterBorn]

Your rationale is lacking. Can you re-phrase your explanation so it is more cogent?

I explained the differences between UC now and UC as you want it.

What part is hard for you to grasp?

 

[irosie91]

sorry-----you are naive. HOOD money is neither reported nor taxed. Lots of
the existing professions are not "controlled"-----no unions, no pensions, etc----
not "credit checkable"

thanks for your reply Palos------you either lack hood experience or you are
touchy about the manner in which it functions