Why do people put up with the US healthcare system?

[Sun Devil 92]

We had no problems with our health care system until the government began interfering in it. And if you think countries with government run health care don't have issues you have your head up your ass. The NHS in Britain is horrible.

Are you nuts?

People were dying or losing their homes because they couldn't afford healthcare.
I watched 3 people on my street die because they couldn't afford basic cancer treatment. One was a child.
Yes, government-run healthcare has its problems. But those problems aren't as bad as what we have here in the States. Plus, we can see where other countries went wrong and correct the problem.

We can't go back to letting people die because insurance is too expensive and to where insurance companies will drop you the minute you get sick.

Simply ignorant.

We spend 8500 per person per year. You don't fix that, you don't fix healthcare.

 

[Skull Pilot]

How a bite from a stray dog shows the sick state of U.S. healthcare

"The first shot at Royal Angkor International Hospital cost $125." (Cambodia)

"Jan received her second Verorab shot at a clinic in northern Thailand. The bill this time: A mere $18.50"

"Things changed dramatically once the Kerns returned to this country. For her third shot, Jan visited Torrance Memorial Medical Center. It was a Sunday, and she had to go to the emergency room, so that added considerably to her cost. The tab for a single injection: $5,254.85."


"“It’s obvious that our system is unlike any other health system,” said Uwe Reinhardt, a healthcare economist at Princeton University. “Other systems were set up to care for patients. Ours was set up by the providers — the hospitals and drug companies — for their own benefit.”"

Most countries in the world have healthcare to treat patients, the US has healthcare to make healthcare providers money.

So much money gets wasted in corruption, it's something like 3% of US GDP at the very least.

Doctors in this country have to comply with much more regulation and litigation than those in Thailand

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

How a bite from a stray dog shows the sick state of U.S. healthcare

"The first shot at Royal Angkor International Hospital cost $125." (Cambodia)

"Jan received her second Verorab shot at a clinic in northern Thailand. The bill this time: A mere $18.50"

"Things changed dramatically once the Kerns returned to this country. For her third shot, Jan visited Torrance Memorial Medical Center. It was a Sunday, and she had to go to the emergency room, so that added considerably to her cost. The tab for a single injection: $5,254.85."


"“It’s obvious that our system is unlike any other health system,” said Uwe Reinhardt, a healthcare economist at Princeton University. “Other systems were set up to care for patients. Ours was set up by the providers — the hospitals and drug companies — for their own benefit.”"

Most countries in the world have healthcare to treat patients, the US has healthcare to make healthcare providers money.

So much money gets wasted in corruption, it's something like 3% of US GDP at the very least.

What!?!?!?!?! Your god Obama didn't deliver for you? WTF!?!?!?!

 

[Freewill]

How a bite from a stray dog shows the sick state of U.S. healthcare

"The first shot at Royal Angkor International Hospital cost $125." (Cambodia)

"Jan received her second Verorab shot at a clinic in northern Thailand. The bill this time: A mere $18.50"

"Things changed dramatically once the Kerns returned to this country. For her third shot, Jan visited Torrance Memorial Medical Center. It was a Sunday, and she had to go to the emergency room, so that added considerably to her cost. The tab for a single injection: $5,254.85."


"“It’s obvious that our system is unlike any other health system,” said Uwe Reinhardt, a healthcare economist at Princeton University. “Other systems were set up to care for patients. Ours was set up by the providers — the hospitals and drug companies — for their own benefit.”"

Most countries in the world have healthcare to treat patients, the US has healthcare to make healthcare providers money.

So much money gets wasted in corruption, it's something like 3% of US GDP at the very least.

You need to ask Obama, he got healthcare passed and it could have pretty much said anything. Only problem he needed the drug companies' support so if you remember he struck a deal behind closed doors.

Sad what Obama put on America.

 

[MisterBeale]

The federal government is responsible for the massive rise in health care costs. If you want to fix the system then you need you kick the government out, not give them more seats at the table.

Is there a single country that has done that? or is that just your theoretical fantasy, and in reality America is just the last country to develop a basic social program like public healthcare?

We had no problems with our health care system until the government began interfering in it. And if you think countries with government run health care don't have issues you have your head up your ass. The NHS in Britain is horrible.

Now I agree with that. Nixon got the ball rolling with HMO's.

 

[Anathema]

Most countries in the world have healthcare to treat patients, the US has healthcare to make healthcare providers money.

So much money gets wasted in corruption, it's something like 3% of US GDP at the very least.

The Government is not supposed to be in charge here.... the People are. Health care is NOT a Right, despite what others may suggest. If you don't like the system feel free not to use it and/or to go elsewhere for your care.

 

[Votto]

How a bite from a stray dog shows the sick state of U.S. healthcare

"The first shot at Royal Angkor International Hospital cost $125." (Cambodia)

"Jan received her second Verorab shot at a clinic in northern Thailand. The bill this time: A mere $18.50"

"Things changed dramatically once the Kerns returned to this country. For her third shot, Jan visited Torrance Memorial Medical Center. It was a Sunday, and she had to go to the emergency room, so that added considerably to her cost. The tab for a single injection: $5,254.85."


"“It’s obvious that our system is unlike any other health system,” said Uwe Reinhardt, a healthcare economist at Princeton University. “Other systems were set up to care for patients. Ours was set up by the providers — the hospitals and drug companies — for their own benefit.”"

Most countries in the world have healthcare to treat patients, the US has healthcare to make healthcare providers money.

So much money gets wasted in corruption, it's something like 3% of US GDP at the very least.

The same people who sold us Obamacare are now complaining about it?

Dolts

 

[MarcATL]

How a bite from a stray dog shows the sick state of U.S. healthcare

"The first shot at Royal Angkor International Hospital cost $125." (Cambodia)

"Jan received her second Verorab shot at a clinic in northern Thailand. The bill this time: A mere $18.50"

"Things changed dramatically once the Kerns returned to this country. For her third shot, Jan visited Torrance Memorial Medical Center. It was a Sunday, and she had to go to the emergency room, so that added considerably to her cost. The tab for a single injection: $5,254.85."


"“It’s obvious that our system is unlike any other health system,” said Uwe Reinhardt, a healthcare economist at Princeton University. “Other systems were set up to care for patients. Ours was set up by the providers — the hospitals and drug companies — for their own benefit.”"

Most countries in the world have healthcare to treat patients, the US has healthcare to make healthcare providers money.

So much money gets wasted in corruption, it's something like 3% of US GDP at the very least.

Have you seen "America: A Love Story?"

The answer is simple, unbridled greed aka it's capitalism run amock.

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[frigidweirdo]

How a bite from a stray dog shows the sick state of U.S. healthcare

"The first shot at Royal Angkor International Hospital cost $125." (Cambodia)

"Jan received her second Verorab shot at a clinic in northern Thailand. The bill this time: A mere $18.50"

"Things changed dramatically once the Kerns returned to this country. For her third shot, Jan visited Torrance Memorial Medical Center. It was a Sunday, and she had to go to the emergency room, so that added considerably to her cost. The tab for a single injection: $5,254.85."


"“It’s obvious that our system is unlike any other health system,” said Uwe Reinhardt, a healthcare economist at Princeton University. “Other systems were set up to care for patients. Ours was set up by the providers — the hospitals and drug companies — for their own benefit.”"

Most countries in the world have healthcare to treat patients, the US has healthcare to make healthcare providers money.

So much money gets wasted in corruption, it's something like 3% of US GDP at the very least.

You need to ask Obama, he got healthcare passed and it could have pretty much said anything. Only problem he needed the drug companies' support so if you remember he struck a deal behind closed doors.

Sad what Obama put on America.

Obama had to work within the system. Had he been in another country it'd have been a lot easier. As it was he had opposition the whole way for the sake of opposition from people making a ton of money out of the system, and from those who seem to like to be over charged massively.

 

[frigidweirdo]

How a bite from a stray dog shows the sick state of U.S. healthcare

"The first shot at Royal Angkor International Hospital cost $125." (Cambodia)

"Jan received her second Verorab shot at a clinic in northern Thailand. The bill this time: A mere $18.50"

"Things changed dramatically once the Kerns returned to this country. For her third shot, Jan visited Torrance Memorial Medical Center. It was a Sunday, and she had to go to the emergency room, so that added considerably to her cost. The tab for a single injection: $5,254.85."


"“It’s obvious that our system is unlike any other health system,” said Uwe Reinhardt, a healthcare economist at Princeton University. “Other systems were set up to care for patients. Ours was set up by the providers — the hospitals and drug companies — for their own benefit.”"

Most countries in the world have healthcare to treat patients, the US has healthcare to make healthcare providers money.

So much money gets wasted in corruption, it's something like 3% of US GDP at the very least.

Have you seen "America: A Love Story?"

The answer is simple, unbridled greed aka it's capitalism run amock.

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Yes, I've noticed. And that's why someone like Trump can be so popular, he's tapped into that greed. He's claiming he'll share the greed around, but we all know what will happen, just like under the United States of Halliburton where the poor man lost his life or his legs and the rich man got richer.

 

[frigidweirdo]

How a bite from a stray dog shows the sick state of U.S. healthcare

"The first shot at Royal Angkor International Hospital cost $125." (Cambodia)

"Jan received her second Verorab shot at a clinic in northern Thailand. The bill this time: A mere $18.50"

"Things changed dramatically once the Kerns returned to this country. For her third shot, Jan visited Torrance Memorial Medical Center. It was a Sunday, and she had to go to the emergency room, so that added considerably to her cost. The tab for a single injection: $5,254.85."


"“It’s obvious that our system is unlike any other health system,” said Uwe Reinhardt, a healthcare economist at Princeton University. “Other systems were set up to care for patients. Ours was set up by the providers — the hospitals and drug companies — for their own benefit.”"

Most countries in the world have healthcare to treat patients, the US has healthcare to make healthcare providers money.

So much money gets wasted in corruption, it's something like 3% of US GDP at the very least.

The same people who sold us Obamacare are now complaining about it?

Dolts

Obamacare is a step in the right direction, however it's far from good. I'm a supporter of a nationalized healthcare system, Obamacare independent of how it was a few years back sucks, but it sucked worse before in the US.

 

[BluesLegend]

Hell in the USA millions of fat lard ass welfare moochers get free healthcare, it don't cost them $18. They walk right into an emergency room and demand it for free. Paid for by hard working Americans like myself. I should at least get a Christmas card from these sponges.

 

[easyt65]

'Why do people put up with the US healthcare system?'

It's Barry's Law of the Land.

 

[kiwiman127]

The federal government is responsible for the massive rise in health care costs. If you want to fix the system then you need you kick the government out, not give them more seats at the table.

Government?
The USA has the highest healthcare cost per capita of all developed nations in the world. All other developed nations (with the exception of Turkey), have healthcare systems run by their governments. It's called socialized medicine.

 

[JoeNormal]

The federal government is responsible for the massive rise in health care costs. If you want to fix the system then you need you kick the government out, not give them more seats at the table.

Maybe you can list the countries in which there is high quality, free market medical care.

 

[JoeNormal]

How a bite from a stray dog shows the sick state of U.S. healthcare

"The first shot at Royal Angkor International Hospital cost $125." (Cambodia)

"Jan received her second Verorab shot at a clinic in northern Thailand. The bill this time: A mere $18.50"

"Things changed dramatically once the Kerns returned to this country. For her third shot, Jan visited Torrance Memorial Medical Center. It was a Sunday, and she had to go to the emergency room, so that added considerably to her cost. The tab for a single injection: $5,254.85."


"“It’s obvious that our system is unlike any other health system,” said Uwe Reinhardt, a healthcare economist at Princeton University. “Other systems were set up to care for patients. Ours was set up by the providers — the hospitals and drug companies — for their own benefit.”"

Most countries in the world have healthcare to treat patients, the US has healthcare to make healthcare providers money.

So much money gets wasted in corruption, it's something like 3% of US GDP at the very least.

You need to ask Obama, he got healthcare passed and it could have pretty much said anything. Only problem he needed the drug companies' support so if you remember he struck a deal behind closed doors.

Sad what Obama put on America.

Obama had to work within the system. Had he been in another country it'd have been a lot easier. As it was he had opposition the whole way for the sake of opposition from people making a ton of money out of the system, and from those who seem to like to be over charged massively.

Agree but Obama should have smacked the rethugs down since he had a mandate at the beginning of his administration.

 

[Weatherman2020]

How a bite from a stray dog shows the sick state of U.S. healthcare

"The first shot at Royal Angkor International Hospital cost $125." (Cambodia)

"Jan received her second Verorab shot at a clinic in northern Thailand. The bill this time: A mere $18.50"

"Things changed dramatically once the Kerns returned to this country. For her third shot, Jan visited Torrance Memorial Medical Center. It was a Sunday, and she had to go to the emergency room, so that added considerably to her cost. The tab for a single injection: $5,254.85."


"“It’s obvious that our system is unlike any other health system,” said Uwe Reinhardt, a healthcare economist at Princeton University. “Other systems were set up to care for patients. Ours was set up by the providers — the hospitals and drug companies — for their own benefit.”"

Most countries in the world have healthcare to treat patients, the US has healthcare to make healthcare providers money.

So much money gets wasted in corruption, it's something like 3% of US GDP at the very least.

Because they keep lawyers out of the system.
Try suing the Royal Angkor hospital.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

all I know is that before the failed ACA my insurance was great, care was outstanding and I hand no problems.
Now its a crap shoot when you need to get care.
Was much better before, let the responsible people have the care they deserved while at the same time satisfying the beliefs of the atheists when it came to Darwins theory.

 

[Redfish]

How a bite from a stray dog shows the sick state of U.S. healthcare

"The first shot at Royal Angkor International Hospital cost $125." (Cambodia)

"Jan received her second Verorab shot at a clinic in northern Thailand. The bill this time: A mere $18.50"

"Things changed dramatically once the Kerns returned to this country. For her third shot, Jan visited Torrance Memorial Medical Center. It was a Sunday, and she had to go to the emergency room, so that added considerably to her cost. The tab for a single injection: $5,254.85."


"“It’s obvious that our system is unlike any other health system,” said Uwe Reinhardt, a healthcare economist at Princeton University. “Other systems were set up to care for patients. Ours was set up by the providers — the hospitals and drug companies — for their own benefit.”"

Most countries in the world have healthcare to treat patients, the US has healthcare to make healthcare providers money.

So much money gets wasted in corruption, it's something like 3% of US GDP at the very least.

because in spite of obozocare, its the best in the world. the dems and libs are trying to bring it down to 3rd world status, and they may succeed. But today it is the best in the world.

and BTW, no one in the USA was denied medical care before obozocare. NO ONE. ACA was a fix for a problem that did not exist.

 

[healthmyths]

How a bite from a stray dog shows the sick state of U.S. healthcare

"The first shot at Royal Angkor International Hospital cost $125." (Cambodia)

"Jan received her second Verorab shot at a clinic in northern Thailand. The bill this time: A mere $18.50"

"Things changed dramatically once the Kerns returned to this country. For her third shot, Jan visited Torrance Memorial Medical Center. It was a Sunday, and she had to go to the emergency room, so that added considerably to her cost. The tab for a single injection: $5,254.85."


"“It’s obvious that our system is unlike any other health system,” said Uwe Reinhardt, a healthcare economist at Princeton University. “Other systems were set up to care for patients. Ours was set up by the providers — the hospitals and drug companies — for their own benefit.”"

Most countries in the world have healthcare to treat patients, the US has healthcare to make healthcare providers money.

So much money gets wasted in corruption, it's something like 3% of US GDP at the very least.

You have NO problem though in suing the doctor here in the USA and so you idiots don't seem to understand then why we see THIS from 90% of doctors surveyed!

90% of physicians say they order duplicate tests,specialists referrals..at a cost of over $850 billion a year!

http://www.jacksonhealthcare.com/media/8968/defensivemedicine_ebook_final.pdf
90% of physicians surveyed say they order $850 billion a year in wasted duplicate tests, referrals all out of FEAR of being SUED!
--- Emergency medicine, primary care, and OB/GYN physicians are most likely to practice defensive medicine.
--- 79 to 83% of surgeons and OB/GYNs have been named in lawsuits.
"Physicians contracted by the federal government practice significantly less defensive medicine as they are protected against lawsuits by the 1946 Federal Tort Claims Act. "
-- BUT........Only 48% practice defensive medicine compared to 92% of non-government physicians.
Consider that fact that of the physicians interviewed, 52% DID NOT practice defensive medicine!
Who were the doctors that didn't practice "defensive medicine"?
Doctors contracted by federal government!
WHY did these doctors NOT practice "defensive medicine"??? 1946 Federal Tort reform Act!
The insurance companies don't care to argue these claims.
They pay the $850 billion. Simply raising premiums.
So how come Obamacare taxed tanning salons 10% because tanning causes tanning,
but they wouldn't tax lawyers' $270 Billion income.
If educated physicians are telling you they fear lawsuits and order duplicate tests, etc. why wasn't there any effort to reduce the $850 billion spent in duplicate testing,etc. possible?
The reason though lawyers were protected though is almost half of Congress and of course Obama are lawyers!
A simple reduction of the $850 billion a year in defensive medicine claims would have reduced the Aetna's claims cost and again THEY don't care because they simply raise their premiums!
So when Aetna wants to get out of Obamacare it's because they can't make that evil profit...which many of you ignorant dummies hold against Aetna and any other for profit organization...but you are so dumb!
It is out of these profits "RESERVES" are created. Without the "RESERVES" states' insurance regulators won't let insurance companies sell insurance. If the Aetnas' don't make profits ...no reserves... no state allows them to sell! It is that ...f....king SIMPLE but you idiots that are against "PROFITS" listen!
That's the ONLY way insurance companies can stay in the health insurance business.
So have Civilian TORT reform. Reduce the fear of Lawsuits! This WILL LOWER THE $850 BILLION A YEAR OF WASTED DUPLICATE TESTS,ETC.!!!