Why Do Democrats Fear a Forensic Audit in Pennsylvania?

[SavannahMann]

Oh good. Another what are you afraid of thread.

 

[Kilroy2]

Kilroy2 why complain about the Cyber Ninjas when we should be complaining about those who ran the previous recounts and audits because they missed obvious fraud.

Care to give an example of that statement that backs it up to be true?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

where is the proof of cheating ?
There is no verifiable proof of cheating to the level that it cost Trump the election.

There is only wishful thinking that they must have cheated.

Big difference

In fact the same system that won trump the election was used when he lost.

Yet rules for audits and recounts are set by the state government. They have verified the election to be accurate. The republican governor has not said anything to contradict that fact.

Yet republicans hired someone who has been vocal about election fraud to find election fraud. He sets up his own rules. Instead of hiring someone with experience and neutral in the matter. They hire the one who believes it to be true. He has to come up with something. Yet what he finds is debunked and explained that he has no experience.

Its like hiring the victim to investigate a crime that was committed against the victim.

The only legit point in your post is the word verifiable.
That’s how no-excuse mail-ins worked for the obvious cheating that allowed the loser tandem to assume the office.

 

[lennypartiv]

Care to give an example of that statement that backs it up to be true?

We saw the election stolen on election night. We know that fraud happened. The people running the first recounts/audits failed to uncover the obvious fraud.

 

[Lakhota]

We saw the election stolen on election night. We know that fraud happened. The people running the first recounts/audits failed to uncover the obvious fraud.

Funny. Prove it!

 

[Kilroy2]

The only legit point in your post is the word verifiable.
That’s how no-excuse mail-ins worked for the obvious cheating that allowed the loser tandem to assume the office.

Yet you still do not provide any instances of mail in votes being fraudulent to the point that it would have cost Trump the election.

You say "no excuse mail in work for obvious cheating" yet you fail to put it in prospective. Does cheating happen yes and they will get caught. You seem to say cheating happens but can you prove that it cost Trump the election.

Even when Trump won an election there is a probability that someone cheated but the one test is does it change the outcome of the election.

Your points are akin to saying people commit crimes therefore people are all criminals.

Provide proof that the mail in vote is cheating and that it cost trump the election.

Now remember just because you say it so with no proof is not proof that Trump lost the election. The proof that Trump lost the election is he is no longer the president.

Those who say Trump is still my president is cute but it delusional at the same time.

 

[Kilroy2]

We saw the election stolen on election night. We know that fraud happened. The people running the first recounts/audits failed to uncover the obvious fraud.

well explain what you and company saw and I will explain what actually happen.

Still it is obvious that people want to believe what they want to believe in order to make it a happy feeling.

Yet with two different perception it boils down to the verifiable facts.

general statements are irrelevant unless they can be backed up with verifiable facts.

that is why the audit attempt to present facts but fail when the facts they present cannot be verified or verified to be a wrong interpretation of the facts.

two people can interpret an event differently. Yet with verifiable facts , it does become clear that facts do not matter when one wants to believe.

One cannot see an election stolen but if you saw an election stolen then you can present facts to back up what was seen.

Mistake are made but if corrected then it become a matter to focus on the mistake or focus on how it was corrected.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Yet you still do not provide any instances of mail in votes being fraudulent to the point that it would have cost Trump the election.

You say "no excuse mail in work for obvious cheating" yet you fail to put it in prospective. Does cheating happen yes and they will get caught. You seem to say cheating happens but can you prove that it cost Trump the election.

Even when Trump won an election there is a probability that someone cheated but the one test is does it change the outcome of the election.

Your points are akin to saying people commit crimes therefore people are all criminals.

Provide proof that the mail in vote is cheating and that it cost trump the election.

Now remember just because you say it so with no proof is not proof that Trump lost the election. The proof that Trump lost the election is he is no longer the president.

Those who say Trump is still my president is cute but it delusional at the same time.

60% of Biden votes were mail-ins. Mail-ins are largely unaccountable. This is obviously way more than any typical random cheating.
This is election theft and the undermining of our democratic system.
This is not the last we’ve heard of demmunist cheating. This is only the beginning. If they get away with it now it will only continue and snowball. Like appeasing terrorists.

 

[lennypartiv]

SavannahMann figures it out, there's a coverup.

 

[busybee01]

They seem to be afraid something will be uncovered.

---Based on the above and other “anomalies and evidence,” including from a USPS whistleblower, as well as direct observation of the in-process Arizona audit, on 7 July, State Sen. Doug Mastriano (R) announced a full forensic audit in three counties in Pennsylvania---

A.U.D.I.T. of Elections: Why Do Democrats Fear a Forensic Audit in Pennsylvania?

redstate.com

There were no anomalies. What they should fear is another Arizona style clown show. This has resulted in the county being forced to buy new voting machines to replace the compromised ones. Also the legislature is not wanting to do a audit of the entire state. They want to audit only 3 counties. Also the legislature has no right to the original machines or the original paper trail.

 

[busybee01]

60% of Biden votes were mail-ins. Mail-ins are largely unaccountable. This is obviously way more than any typical random cheating.
This is election theft and the undermining of our democratic system.
This is not the last we’ve heard of demmunist cheating. This is only the beginning. If they get away with it now it will only continue and snowball. Like appeasing terrorists.

That is a lie. Mail-in ballots are not inherently unaccountable. It is Republicans trying to steal elections and assault voting rights in this country. You FASCISTS are trying to turn this into a dictatorship. Republicans are terrorists band that includes your lying, thieving ass.

 

[busybee01]

There is way more obvious fraud in the 2020 election than is even questionable. No comparison at all to typical levels of election fraud.
A dem tandem of rejects breaking a vote record by 17%? While 60% of their votes were from highly manipulatable mail-in votes?
Elephant in the room.

There was no fraud. Trump's own AG says there was no evidence of fraud. Trump judges say there was nob fraud. If bit were obvious then they would have found hard evidence. There is nothing questionable about mail in voting.

 

[Colin norris]

I think they need to be allowed to finish and extra scrutiny of tracing mail-ins back to legit voters is most important.
This election was stolen by mail-ins. Another way dems used the virus to remove trump. Which was the reason for china’s bio attack in the first place.

How could ou possibly know with certainty it was mail in votes were rigged?
Then you outrageously say the virus was linked to the election???
You're paranoid out of your head. Absolutely ridiculous. You're a complete nut.

 

[busybee01]

Trump won the Presidency! by far

The scum on the Left stole it from him.

These thieves should be in jail - if lucky - or shot at dawn id there is any justice left in America!

Your asses are the ones who should be in jail. You are trying to turn this into a dictatorship just like Cuba, China, and Russia, You are the scum who are attacking voting rights in this country.

 

[busybee01]

The evidence of the election being stolen is overwhelming.

Then why couldn't Trump's lawyers provide any evidence?

 

[busybee01]

Kilroy2 why complain about the Cyber Ninjas when we should be complaining about those who ran the previous recounts and audits because they missed obvious fraud.

There was no obvious fraud. Trump's AG said so and Trump lawyers said so.

 

[skye]

There was no obvious fraud. Trump's AG said so and Trump lawyers said so.

live in ignorance.

 

[candycorn]

Probably why they fear the AZ audit and a probable Georgia audit.

Their Senile Pedo POTUS would be found to be illegitimate. ..cant win with less than 270 electoral votes

Any arrests yet?

 

[candycorn]

live in ignorance.



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[Kilroy2]

60% of Biden votes were mail-ins. Mail-ins are largely unaccountable. This is obviously way more than any typical random cheating.
This is election theft and the undermining of our democratic system.
This is not the last we’ve heard of demmunist cheating. This is only the beginning. If they get away with it now it will only continue and snowball. Like appeasing terrorists.

Here the facts at least 6 states are mail votes to every voter.
Colorado
Hawaii
Oregon
Washington
Utah
Nevada and Vermont automatically sends mail in votes to every voter in 2020

Of course with COVID 19 the reason for an absentee ballot was relaxed in most other states

Did you know that

Did you know that a high percentage of people who request or are sent mail in ballots end up just taking the ballots to the polling places.

Mail in votes increased in every state because of the COVID 19 situation

Yes Biden won the election and he would have to have more mail in votes in his favor or otherwise he would have lost.

158 million votes were cast in the election.[295] More than 100 million of them were cast before Election Day by early voting or mail ballot,


States such as PA which counted in person votes first show trump with a lead but when they counted the mail in ballots then trump loses the battle. It looks suspicious but it really is how votes are counted and which is counted first.

Still in states like Florida and Texas which had higher than usual mail in ballots Trump won. So how does Trump win with such mail in ballots and they are BAD, I say BAD

If mail in ballots was an issue why are Florida and Texas not doing an audit.

Trump won the mail in ballot vote in both states and a few others.

Still the proof is in the pudding

Trump voted by mail in vote

yet he was tweeting

“There is NO WAY (ZERO!) that Mail-In Ballots will be anything less than substantially fraudulent.

Do as I say not as I do

And it appears COVID 19 fucks over Trump again

Mail in votes is the weakest link for Trump and easy for repubs to attack yet mail in votes has been used since the cilvil war. They make it easy for those with disabilities and those living abroad to still vote. It is also used to allow military who are serving overseas to vote. Every states has rules for them which allows them to not validate the ballot if problems are found.

So mail in ballot is not bad, yet it is as American as apple pie

But when you lose you do need an excuse for losing and it is always better to blame the opposition than to accept defeat

Yet in defeat one's true nature can be assessed

Yet the reason he lost can be answered with the below chart when compared to the same stats in 2016 there are compelling differences.

2020 presidential election voter demographics (Edison)[339]

Area type
Region
Issue regarded as most important
Military service
Union households
Income
Education by race/gender
Education by race
Education
First time voter
Sexual orientation
Age by race
Age
White evangelical or born-again Christian
Religion
Gender by race/ethnicity
Race/ethnicity
Gender by marital status
Marital status
Gender
Party
Ideology
Demographic subgroup	Biden	Trump	% of total vote
Total vote	51	47	100
Liberals	89	10	24
Moderates	64	34	38
Conservatives	14	85	38
Democrats	94	5	37
Republicans	6	94	36
Independents	54	42	26
Men	45	53	48
Women	57	42	52
Married	45	53	56
Unmarried	58	40	44
Married men	43	55	30
Married women	48	51	26
Unmarried men	52	45	20
Unmarried women	62	36	23
White	41	57	67
Black	87	12	13
Latino	65	33	13
Asian	63	36	4
Other	55	41	4
White men	38	60	35
White women	44	55	32
Black men	79	19	4
Black women	90	9	8
Latino men	59	37	5
Latino women	69	30	8
Other	59	38	8
Protestant/Other Christian	39	60	43
Catholic	52	47	25
Jewish	76	22	2
Other religion	69	29	8
None	65	31	22
Yes	24	76	28
No	62	36	72
18–24 years old	65	31	9
25–29 years old	54	43	7
30–39 years old	51	46	16
40–49 years old	54	44	16
50–64 years old	47	52	30
65 and older	47	52	22
White 18–29 years old	44	53	8
White 30–44 years old	41	57	14
White 45–59 years old	38	61	19
White 60 and older	42	57	26
Black 18–29 years old	88	10	3
Black 30–44 years old	78	19	4
Black 45–59 years old	89	10	3
Black 60 and older	92	7	3
Latino 18–29 years old	69	28	4
Latino 30–44 years old	62	34	4
Latino 45–59 years old	68	30	3
Latino 60 and older	58	40	2
Others	59	38	8
LGBT	67	30	7
Non-LGBT	51	48	93
Yes	64	32	14
No	49	49	86
High school or less	46	54	19
Some college education	51	47	23
Associate degree	47	50	16
Bachelor's degree	51	47	27
Postgraduate degree	62	37	15
White college graduates	51	47	32
White no college degree	32	67	35
Non-white college graduates	70	27	10
Non-white no college degree	72	26	24
White women with college degrees	54	44	14
White women without college degrees	36	63	17
White men with college degrees	48	50	17
White men without college degrees	28	70	18
Non-White	71	26	33
Under $30,000	54	46	15
$30,000–49,999	56	44	20
$50,000–99,999	56	42	39
$100,000–199,999	41	58	20
Over $200,000	48	48	7
Yes	56	40	20
No	50	49	80
Veterans	44	54	15
Non-veterans	53	45	85
Racial inequality	92	7	20
COVID-19 pandemic	81	15	17
Economy	16	83	35
Crime and safety	27	71	11
Health care	62	37	11
East	58	40	20
Midwest	47	51	23
South	46	53	35
West	57	41	22
Urban	60	38	29
Suburban	50	48	51
Rural	42	57	19