Why Do Democrats Fear a Forensic Audit in Pennsylvania?

Forensic audits in Arizona

The claim was made by Doug Logan, head of Cyber Ninjas, the private company tapped to lead the audit effort. He said:



The county wrote: "This is not a new practice, so it's not unusual that we would have more early votes than mail-in ballots sent."




Later, the county added its exact count of requested and returned ballots:



That is how desperation rolls. Look what I found and report it to newsites.

Then the county has to correct them that this is not fraud. It just you are lack any knowledge on how an election goes down. Looking for anything to hang you hat on without asking the country for an explanation before you blast the news.

News that is picked up by those who want to believe.

We don't believe you
 
Recounts are a count of the total votes. Yet a thorough audit is also a recount because if they do not do a recount then an audit is just a half ass analysis. Yet audits just look at snippets of things and draws an analysis. This may require further research unless it supports what your looking for. Then no further analysis is required. Yet election officials all do audits to ensure their election is running the way they expect it to run. IF they find a problem then they need to identify what the problem is.

Election officials understand the process more than 3rd party opportunists hired to find a reason.

So as they (3 party) find things that they think are important then the election officials have to debunk it as you got it wrong.

yet not before they leak their findings to the unsuspecting public.

So what is the point of an audit

Find some minor mistakes that will not change anything

or a self fulfilling fantasy

example audit claim 168,000 fraudulent ballots printed on illegal paper

The auditor was claiming fraud and vocal about the various theories surrounding the election before they even began the audit. Also he has no experience in elections.

Trump repeated the claim

yet All of that is false. The ballots were not unofficial or printed on illegal paper,

Yet Logan says

Logan pointed to ballots with the printing slightly offset between the front and back. He claimed this could cause votes to be counted for the wrong candidate if ink from one side bleeds through to another. IF does not sound like it happened

Election experts say bleed-through doesn’t affect the vote count because bubbles on one side of a ballot don’t align with those on the other. Ballots that can’t be read are flagged and duplicated by a bipartisan team.
 
Recounts are a count of the total votes. Yet a thorough audit is also a recount because if they do not do a recount then an audit is just a half ass analysis. Yet audits just look at snippets of things and draws an analysis. This may require further research unless it supports what your looking for. Then no further analysis is required. Yet election officials all do audits to ensure their election is running the way they expect it to run. IF they find a problem then they need to identify what the problem is.

Election officials understand the process more than 3rd party opportunists hired to find a reason.

So as they (3 party) find things that they think are important then the election officials have to debunk it as you got it wrong.

yet not before they leak their findings to the unsuspecting public.

So what is the point of an audit

Find some minor mistakes that will not change anything

or a self fulfilling fantasy

example audit claim 168,000 fraudulent ballots printed on illegal paper

The auditor was claiming fraud and vocal about the various theories surrounding the election before they even began the audit. Also he has no experience in elections.

Trump repeated the claim

yet All of that is false. The ballots were not unofficial or printed on illegal paper,

Yet Logan says

Logan pointed to ballots with the printing slightly offset between the front and back. He claimed this could cause votes to be counted for the wrong candidate if ink from one side bleeds through to another. IF does not sound like it happened

Election experts say bleed-through doesn’t affect the vote count because bubbles on one side of a ballot don’t align with those on the other. Ballots that can’t be read are flagged and duplicated by a bipartisan team.
I think they need to be allowed to finish and extra scrutiny of tracing mail-ins back to legit voters is most important.
This election was stolen by mail-ins. Another way dems used the virus to remove trump. Which was the reason for china’s bio attack in the first place.
 
I think they need to be allowed to finish and extra scrutiny of tracing mail-ins back to legit voters is most important.
This election was stolen by mail-ins. Another way dems used the virus to remove trump. Which was the reason for china’s bio attack in the first place

I think they need to be allowed to finish and extra scrutiny of tracing mail-ins back to legit voters is most important.
This election was stolen by mail-ins. Another way dems used the virus to remove trump. Which was the reason for china’s bio attack in the first place.

Yet can mail in votes be proven to have caused Trump to lose.
 
They seem to be afraid something will be uncovered.

---Based on the above and other “anomalies and evidence,” including from a USPS whistleblower, as well as direct observation of the in-process Arizona audit, on 7 July, State Sen. Doug Mastriano (R) announced a full forensic audit in three counties in Pennsylvania---


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Yet two audits have been done in Pennsylvania. Maybe the 3rd one will put it to rest. Yet we know it won't and then they will ask for another audit.

The caller for this audit wants countries to turn records over to him. The fact remains that they will keep asking for an audit until they find one that supports there view.

The guy is hoping to run for governor and would love Trumps endorsement. Trump has already asked him to run.

So is this about a future election bid and talking points for the election trail. Seriously they will never let it die because now they have a cause. Much like the cause of Obama not being a citizen and Hilary should have gone to jail.

It will never die.

None of the audits that have been done to date have been transparent or conducted by independent sources as in the case done in Arizona....
Democrats are up to their necks in this election fraud and they know they've been caught doing it...
Why else would Marc Elias the attack dog from Perkins-Coie be running around the country to block any and all inspections and audits of the November 3rd Election ballots and machines.

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They seem to be afraid something will be uncovered.

---Based on the above and other “anomalies and evidence,” including from a USPS whistleblower, as well as direct observation of the in-process Arizona audit, on 7 July, State Sen. Doug Mastriano (R) announced a full forensic audit in three counties in Pennsylvania---


Have you spoken to any high level democrats and asked then that question? Of course not.
Have a look at the filthy toilet paper you take it from. Little wonder your credibility is similar to thin air.
 
None of the audits that have been done to date have been transparent or conducted by independent sources as in the case done in Arizona....
The Fraudit is not independent, it is a totally partisan exercise in 2022 electioneering. Your guy is not just a sore loser, he and the Neo-GOP are tearing the country apart with the BIGLIE.
 
I think they need to be allowed to finish and extra scrutiny of tracing mail-ins back to legit voters is most important.
This election was stolen by mail-ins. Another way dems used the virus to remove trump. Which was the reason for china’s bio attack in the first place.
The evidence of the election being stolen is overwhelming.
 
You CLAIM Trump lost and then resist allowing people to verify it. That SEEMS like a tacit admission that Trump didn't lose and Biden is illegitimate.

yet you seem to deny audits that were done that validated the results. Instead you have faith in keep looking for an excused. How many failures will it take before the results would be believable to you. I submit that you will never accept any results unless it validates your opinion. Even if the results care debunked.

Election recounts were done and the results validated the election results were correct. Yet you do not believe it. Courts have found no evidence of fraud. Yet you still do not believe. States have verified the accuracy of the results but you still do not believe. Loud mouth frauds have been debunked at every turn. Yet you still do not believe it.

I ask you why do you resist the results when they have already been verified. You seem to be making a decision that Trump did not lose based on no verifiable facts.

Must be that gut feeling.
 
None of the audits that have been done to date have been transparent or conducted by independent sources as in the case done in Arizona....
Democrats are up to their necks in this election fraud and they know they've been caught doing it...
Why else would Marc Elias the attack dog from Perkins-Coie be running around the country to block any and all inspections and audits of the November 3rd Election ballots and machines.

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Well how transparent is Cyber Ninjas?

Cyber Ninjas: The Cyber Ninjas have recruited their hand-counters almost exclusively from the Republican Party. The Cyber Ninjas counting teams are not bipartisan.

When the county does recounts and audits they use both sides

The volunteers who do the hand count are selected by the political parties, not the county. The volunteers work in groups of three, and all of the groups are required by law to be bipartisan.

Cyber Ninjas: The Cyber Ninjas counting teams included one former Republican state legislator who ran on the very ballots being audited. The Ninjas staff also includes members of former President Donald Trump’s campaign team, and tours of the auditing area are regularly given to Republican elected officials.

County does not allow candidates to participate

Why is Cyber Ninjas only doing audits of presidential and senate races where republicans lost. Why are they not doing audits of races were republican won

Audits by the count require two week training

CN - has no experience in doing this type of audit

The Cyber Ninjas have stated that they do not have to comply with public records requests. Thus OAN was allowed close up access. Whereas other had to observe from the bleachers

CN - even before they finished their audit, members were interviewed on conspiracy based documentary.

CN has no experience with auditing votes yet was selected to do so.

Why because the owner was vocal about conspiracies

 
Kilroy2 why complain about the Cyber Ninjas when we should be complaining about those who ran the previous recounts and audits because they missed obvious fraud.
 
yet you seem to deny audits that were done that validated the results. Instead you have faith in keep looking for an excused. How many failures will it take before the results would be believable to you. I submit that you will never accept any results unless it validates your opinion. Even if the results care debunked.

Election recounts were done and the results validated the election results were correct. Yet you do not believe it. Courts have found no evidence of fraud. Yet you still do not believe. States have verified the accuracy of the results but you still do not believe. Loud mouth frauds have been debunked at every turn. Yet you still do not believe it.

I ask you why do you resist the results when they have already been verified. You seem to be making a decision that Trump did not lose based on no verifiable facts.

Must be that gut feeling.
When the people who are accused of cheating do the audits, that might put the results in questions.
 
When the people who are accused of cheating do the audits, that might put the results in questions.


where is the proof of cheating ?
There is no verifiable proof of cheating to the level that it cost Trump the election.

There is only wishful thinking that they must have cheated.

Big difference

In fact the same system that won trump the election was used when he lost.

Yet rules for audits and recounts are set by the state government. They have verified the election to be accurate. The republican governor has not said anything to contradict that fact.

Yet republicans hired someone who has been vocal about election fraud to find election fraud. He sets up his own rules. Instead of hiring someone with experience and neutral in the matter. They hire the one who believes it to be true. He has to come up with something. Yet what he finds is debunked and explained that he has no experience.

Its like hiring the victim to investigate a crime that was committed against the victim.
 

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