Wherever he goes he makes that team a contender. I'll take him on the Pistons if you don't want him.i was a Laker fan until they signed lebron.....
P.S. This is another hint to me you lean right. Why don't you like Lebron? He's a good guy.
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Wherever he goes he makes that team a contender. I'll take him on the Pistons if you don't want him.i was a Laker fan until they signed lebron.....
your problem bobo is you bring politics into everything....you think im the only person that dislikes this guy?.....i thought kobe was a great player and guy....does that mean i lean left now?...Wherever he goes he makes that team a contender. I'll take him on the Pistons if you don't want him.
P.S. This is another hint to me you lean right. Why don't you like Lebron? He's a good guy.
i was a Laker fan until they signed lebron.....
They say it's the 15 points a game is why they don't consider him the goat. I am switching my vote to Lebron. He is the GOAT. This is what I said in another thread:Bill Russell is the GOAT of Basketball: Here's why...
- 11 NBA Championships. He won the NBA championship in 85% of the seasons he played.
- 5 MVP's
- 12 times NBA All Star
- Arguably the best defender in NBA history
- Averaged for his career 15 ppg, 22.5 rpg, 4.3 apg
The Celtics had Red Auerbach, Bob Cousey, and other good Celtics players before Russell was on the team and they never made the NBA finals. The Celtics only saw true success once Russell arrived.
More stats:
- Bill missed 4 games in 1962 and they went 0-4 (with Cousy, Sharman, and Coach Red), then he missed 5 games in 1969 and they went 0-5 (with Sam Jones, Havilicek, etc.). And those two streaks are the two largest losing streaks in the entire career of Bill Russell. The guy didn't lose much.
- When Russell retired, the Celtics went from a 48 win team to a 34 win team, even though Havlicek, and other all stars continued playing
- Russell averaged 20 rebounds per game in 10 of the 13 years he played, and once hauled in 51 rebounds.
There was no player that had more grit and will to win than Bill Russell. He kept some of the greatest players of all time from winning championships.. such as Jerry West, Wilt Chaimberlin, Elgin Baylor, and Oscar Robertson.
Bill Russell has 11 rings. Who came closer to catching him Lebron who made it to 10 finals or Jordan who only made it to 6?
Well why don't you like Lebron? Do you think he's arrogant? I don't think he is. Has he not been a great face of the NBA for 20 years?your problem bobo is you bring politics into everything....you think im the only person that dislikes this guy?.....i thought kobe was a great player and guy....does that mean i lean left now?...
Yogi Berra has 10 rings and two MVPs
Doesnt make him the best Baseball player ever
Well if we are using winning and losing as a measuring stick, or one, getting to 10 World Series definitely counts for something.
Where did Yogi fall short?
In those areas, who's better Lebron or Jordan?
I think it might be possible that Lebron goes down as the greatest based on the numbers, but if we were playing best 2 out of 3 and you and I had to pick 4 NBA players, and you go first, who are you going to pick Jordan or Lebron? I pick Jordan, even if Lebron is the GOAT. Does that make sense?
I'm curious what are you criteria for being the GOAT and who wins those categories? I think Jordan was a better defender. Was he? That counts for something.
On another note, I love it that Jordan beat 5 different teams in the Finals. Only Utah got a rematch.
Right now 73% say Jordan is the GOAT but that number keeps getting smaller every day
The results had Jordan as the GOAT for 73 percent of those polled. The gap is closing for James, who set the mark for the most career points in NBA history earlier this season. He surpassed Kareem Abdul-Jabar and could close in on 40,000 points by the time he retires from the NBA.
Hard to say
With the game on the line and one shot to win, I go with Jordan. He just refused to lose.
I think Lebron is more physically dominating on the court
Jordan got on a great Bulls team and rode them to championship after championship. Just like Bill Russell did
Lebron won championships with three entirely different teams.
A great player and a gentlemanBill Russell is the GOAT of Basketball: Here's why...
- 11 NBA Championships. He won the NBA championship in 85% of the seasons he played.
- 5 MVP's
- 12 times NBA All Star
- Arguably the best defender in NBA history
- Averaged for his career 15 ppg, 22.5 rpg, 4.3 apg
The Celtics had Red Auerbach, Bob Cousey, and other good Celtics players before Russell was on the team and they never made the NBA finals. The Celtics only saw true success once Russell arrived.
More stats:
- Bill missed 4 games in 1962 and they went 0-4 (with Cousy, Sharman, and Coach Red), then he missed 5 games in 1969 and they went 0-5 (with Sam Jones, Havilicek, etc.). And those two streaks are the two largest losing streaks in the entire career of Bill Russell. The guy didn't lose much.
- When Russell retired, the Celtics went from a 48 win team to a 34 win team, even though Havlicek, and other all stars continued playing
- Russell averaged 20 rebounds per game in 10 of the 13 years he played, and once hauled in 51 rebounds.
There was no player that had more grit and will to win than Bill Russell. He kept some of the greatest players of all time from winning championships.. such as Jerry West, Wilt Chaimberlin, Elgin Baylor, and Oscar Robertson.
You'll have to point that out. Different sports have different circumstances. Brady doesn't play defense, Russell does.
Not most.. but the outspoken for sure.
They do consider him. However, they don't spend hours on facebook, twitter, etc... they actually watched him as long as Lebron/Jordan. Those who say Lebron/Jordan are the greatest, most never watched a minute of Russell playing, much less know who he even is out of ignorance.
Trust me, Brady got plenty going his way to get 7 titles. Fairness has little do with it. The guy threw 1 TD pass one year in the entire playoffs, and 0 TD passes in anther year in the entire playoffs, and won 2 Superbowls from it.
How?
Manning, Montana, and probably tied with Elway.
Manning is 3-2 against Brady in the highest level they could play, the AFC championship.
Manning averaged the 17th best defense in his career, Brady averaged the 7th,.
Manning 5 MVP's, Brady 3.
Manning clearly was better at putting up the proper offense to win games, Brady just had better coaching and defense so that his sub-par games could be wins while others who had sub-par games would lose.
Both are all-time greats.
Yes, he blew it. Incredible Superbowl though.