Why are SNAP benefits so high?

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The flaw in your response is that if her SNAP allowance is reduced by her income she has the money to buy all the necessary food for her and her family. Only the very poor get maximum benefits.

In your scenario she'd better learn how to cook or her family is in big trouble.

A small steak would only be part of one's daily fare. I was just using it as an example of what a really poor person could eat with SNAP.

...and you are an idiot.

 

[meaner gene]

With the money SNAP takers could save not buying soda and fritos, they could afford the 93% lean hamburger instead of the fatty one.

First milk costs more than 1.5 times soda.
Lean ground beef costs a lot more

Harris Teeter lists 80% lean ground beef for $3.99/lb, while 93% lean is listed at $7.99/lb a

Healthy foods cost more than food that's bad for you.
The marvels of our food industry.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

SNAP kids are fat enough already.

You surveyed every single kid on SNAP and determined they were overweight? Blanket statements like that prove you have slipped a gear somewhere.

 

[marvin martian]

Likely because those who decide the benefits also overeat, are overweight or obese, and not healthy physically or mentally.

Government officials and workers face unique challenges due to their critical work, which can take a heavy toll on their mental health3. However, there are initiatives to improve organizational health and provide good-quality health services for them124. A study evaluated occupational stress and cardiovascular risk factors in high-level government officials5.

Federal Worksite Wellness Programs

The U.S. Office of Personnel Management promotes and supports balanced, effective combinations of worksite wellness programs and insurance benefits to produce the healthiest possible workforce.

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Like everything the Democrats do, it's about money-laundering.

There's massive abuse of the program, and a huge black market for SNAP/EBT cards, which drives ever-increasing demands for more funding, which creates bigger incentives for abuse and fraud, ad nauseum.

 

[toobfreak]

Water is free.

Water is not free. But let me see you drink nothing but tap water for a month, then get back to me.

Because taxpayers have a right to say how their money is allocated.

So, it isn't the money for food, it is WHAT food they buy with it! I want to hear your argument when the government starts removing all kinds of stuff off the shelf you like because it isn't "healthy" for you, or starts fining or taxing YOU for buying it. And since when do you have a right to say how your tax doillars are spent? Does the government consult with you on ANYTHING they spend money on???

We don’t allow welfare takers to use food stamps for liquor; we don’t have to allow it for soda, either.

Paying unemployed people to sit around getting all liquored up then go out smashed to wreck their car is NOT the same thing as telling people they are not allowed to buy any cola products even if they contain no sugar. I might almost be with you if you just said no sugar-based cola products, but you don't even stop at that.

It’s not occasional - not with the amount of food stamps going to soda. It’s a staple at the dinner table.

I'll say it again: real fruit juice (which is also sweetened) is much more costly than soda. So maybe the problem is not enough SNAP benefits so people opt for the cola? Or maybe, all we need is to set a LIMIT on the amount of cola paid for by SNAP per month per person. I might be OK with that. How does 4 liters/month sound?

And as far as telling someone how to live, we have nothing to say if they use their own money.

But they have no money, so, it is an invalid argument. Do you use your own money to build every highway you drive on? Every infrastructure you use? Power, gas, electricity? No you do not.

Many SNAP people worked many years paying into government benefits just as you pay a tiny bit towards highway funds, etc., but according to your own logic, myself or the government ought to be able to restrict you to:

1. Driving a little shitbox that get 60 mpg.
2. Not driving over 40 mph ever.
3. Not driving farther than 50 miles per month.
4. No driving during peak traffic hours.
5. No lights on in your house at night.
6. Only 2 hours TV per day.
7. No TV over 36 inches.
8. Only two toilet flushes per day.
9. Only one load of laundry per week.
10. No desserts for you.
11. No rich food.
12. No fattening food.
13. No tasty food.

And by association, a food police, a lifestyle police, a driving police (cars already sort of have those built in).

Glad to know you support all that because this is what you are really sponsoring.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I do hope your being sarcastic about the Medicare. The supplemental is much more expensive than it used to be.

He/she is just plain wrong.

 

[meaner gene]

Like everything the Democrats do, it's about money-laundering.

There's massive abuse of the program, and a huge black market for SNAP/EBT cards, which drives ever-increasing demands for more funding, which creates bigger incentives for abuse and fraud, ad nauseum.

Interesting observation.
So those obese people buying prime beef and lobster on an EBT card, may be using stolen cards, and don't represent the average SNAP beneficiary.

 

[Lisa558]

First milk costs more than 1.5 times soda.

Ounce for ounce, maybe. But better some milk than 2 glasses of soda.

Lean ground beef costs a lot more

Harris Teeter lists 80% lean ground beef for $3.99/lb, while 93% lean is listed at $7.99/lb a

And soda is $2 a bottle, and the bag of Fritos near me is $5. That savings of $7 more than covers a pound of lean ground over the cost of the cheap stuff, and it would feed a family of four easily - five if we are talking yoing children.

Healthy foods cost more than food that's bad for you.
The marvels of our food industry.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Do you mean "dessert"?

Proper chewing doesn't require added water as it promotes enough needed saliva, adding 50 percent or more to what yer chewing. The average person swallows when saliva production is just beginning, thus thwarting proper digestion and satiety. Why do you think people have the digestion/elimination problems that they have?

Wow! I have never seen anyone work so hard to prove their own idiocy!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

OK….but for a family consisting of 1 single mother and 4 little kids, they get $1200 a month tax-free if Mama doesn’t work.

That's not SNAP but likely all of her aid. She might qualify for WIC also. What about TANF?

 

[Lisa558]

That's not SNAP but likely all of her aid. She might qualify for WIC also. What about TANF?

She gets TANF, and also Medicaid. (I don’t know what WIC is.) But the SNAP is in addition to that.

 

[meaner gene]

Ounce for ounce, maybe. But better some milk than 2 glasses of soda.



And soda is $2 a bottle, and the bag of Fritos near me is $5. That savings of $7 more than covers a pound of lean ground over the cost of the cheap stuff, and it would feed a family of four easily - five if we are talking yoing children.

To address a previous point that water is free.
Is that for leaded or unleaded?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Soda is one of the highest expenditures on food stamps. It should be disallowed. If they want to ruin their health and rot their teeth, let them do it on their own dime.

Maybe we could ban all kosher food as being extravagant? Would you like that?

 

[toobfreak]

When Michelle Obama recommended people eat more kale, the conservatives were up in arms.

They should have been. Kale is pretty nasty. Pure roughage. I wonder how much kale Michelle eats per month?

Bottom line: Sure, we would all do better living better, but the FDA has filled our supermarkets with chemicals and junk food, and the government has made Pizza, hot dogs, hamburgers and pop corn the national diet.

The solution now is a slow, general trend towards better eating, food, and lifestyles for all. Targeting SNAP recipients simply because they are vulnerable, defenseless, and can be rationalized by others is not a reasonable solution.

What is interesting and telling is just how few people calling for SNAP people to be forced onto healthier diets are themselves eating healthy themselves.

ALL THOSE who drink nothing but tap water and eat nothing but cruciferous veggies, please announce yourselves.

 

[debbiedowner]

I do hope your being sarcastic about the Medicare. The supplemental is much more expensive than it used to be.

If you're on Medicare and receiving Medicaid you do not have to work if over 65 all bets are off if you're under 65.

Or he might be confusing Medicare with Medicaid.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

She gets TANF, and also Medicaid. (I don’t know what WIC is.) But the SNAP is in addition to that.

OK, so your initial statement was not really true? Why so much hate you have to lie?

WIC is Women Infant and Children. It is like SNAP for new mothers, etc. My daughter was on it when my grandsons were small, and her husband abandoned his family.

 

[Dr.Destructo]

So, unless something has radically changed, my guess is no one if getting rich off of SNAP.

You would be SO WRONG with that guess.

Yeah, they ARE getting rich off of them. Maybe not Soros or Gates rich, but they drive $70K+ vehicles, can afford $500 weaves and nails, buy designer clothes and shoes worth thousands of dollars. And not to forget, dripping in gold jewelry.

There is an entire underground line of how welfare money and SNAP benefits are used at collateral for ghetto RICHES, including drugs, large houses, and very expensive lifestyles by those who get welfare, and have gotten it for the extent of their lives to this point.

I know, I've seen it.......and it's been explained to me firsthand by an abuser of welfare benefits.

 

[meaner gene]

They should have been. Kale is pretty nasty. Pure roughage. I wonder how much kale Michelle eats per month?

Bottom line: Sure, we would all do better living better, but the FDA has filled our supermarkets with chemicals and junk food, and the government has made Pizza, hot dogs, hamburgers and pop corn the national diet.

The solution now is a slow, general trend towards better eating, food, and lifestyles for all. Targeting SNAP recipients simply because they are vulnerable, defenseless, and can be rationalized by others is not a reasonable solution.

What is interesting and telling is just how few people calling for SNAP people to be forced onto healthier diets are themselves eating healthy themselves.

ALL THOSE who drink nothing but tap water and eat nothing but cruciferous veggies, please announce yourselves.

Do they even teach nutrition and home economics in school any more?

Part of the problem is teaching people more about healthy eating, including food preparation etc.

If you don't store and cook meat property you can get food poisoning or worse. That doesn't happen with a can of soup. Or a bag of snacks.

 

[Lisa558]

OK, so your initial statement was not really true? Why so much hate you have to lie?

WIC is Women Infant and Children. It is like SNAP for new mothers, etc. My daughter was on it when my grandsons were small, and her husband abandoned his family.

What was the lie? I said she gets $1200 a month in food stamps.

 

[toobfreak]

Ounce for ounce, maybe. But better some milk than 2 glasses of soda.

Milk is bad for you. It contains lactose, and generates an acidic pH in the body. Not to mention cows are plain bad for the planet. And we need to do away with cows anyway because they are all slaughtered in pain, abuse and torment, just ask Buttercup.

And soda is $2 a bottle,

You can get it for $1.00 per/2-liter bottle.

and the bag of Fritos near me is $5.

Fritos suck.

That savings of $7 more than covers a pound of lean ground over the cost of the cheap stuff, and it would feed a family of four easily - five if we are talking yoing children.

So I can feed a family of five on steak just by eliminating a bag of Fritos and a bottle of pop?