Why are Democrats stonewalling a border security bill?

[postman]

No, it didn’t. 5,000 per day allowed in. Minors not counted in that 5,000. That means there is no limit.

It also speeds up processing, so many of those 5,000 get immediately deported back across the border.

 

[postman]

When Trump is sworn in, we will have the version that he is allowed to do already. And I support deporting several million illegals.50 thousand new shining homes built there. The diversity would be stunning.

You expect a different outcome than last time Trump promised to deport millions of illegals?

They're still here, along with 3 million more that Trump let in.

 

[postman]

Just five months after the GOP took control of the House, they passed this bill, so to say Republicans are not interested in securing our borders is simply not true.

They didn't seek bipartisan support, which is the only way to get it through the senate.

They knew the purely partisan bill was DOA at the senate. It was all for show.

Just like the 100 some odd bills to repeal Obamacare.

 

[Lesh]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-unveils-118-billion-bipartisan-bill-tighten-border-security-aid-2024-02-04/

US Senate unveils $118 billion bill on border security, aid for Ukraine, Israel

"I urge Congress to come together and swiftly pass this bipartisan agreement," President Joe Biden said, also praising the migration measures in the bill, which took months to negotiate.

Independent Senator Kyrsten Sinema told reporters the legislation would secure the U.S. southern border, including by requiring the Department of Homeland Security to temporarily "shut down" the frontier to most migrants if there are an average of more than 5,000 crossing attempts per day over seven days

Republican Senator James Lankford, one of the negotiators on the bill, said that the border likely would remain closed for at least three weeks as the numbers of arriving immigrants drop significantly.

The bill's proponents said it would end the controversial "catch-and-release" practice that critics said contribute to high numbers of illegal immigrants arriving at the southern border. It would do so by speeding up the adjudication of asylum cases instead of quickly releasing apprehended migrants and allowing them to stay in the United States for years while they await hearings.

Mitch McConnell, the top Senate Republican, has supported the negotiations, saying Republicans would not get a better deal under a Republican White House.

So there are two bills out there.

One is bipartisan and the other is completely partisan

One has funding in it for judges, border agents , more courts and detention facilities. The other does not.

One would shut down the border when asylum seekers reach a level that could overwhelm the system. The other just shuts down the border (a completely unsustainable idea).

Both have passed their respective Houses.
One would pass the other House
The other would not

The first is the Senate bipartisan bill

The second is the House bill that was never anything gesture

 

[DigitalDrifter]

They didn't seek bipartisan support, which is the only way to get it through the senate.

They knew the purely partisan bill was DOA at the senate. It was all for show.

Just like the 100 some odd bills to repeal Obamacare.

Dimocrats were free to join the support for the bill, but they did not want to see a bill pushed by the GOP to succeed.

At the end of the day, it's always the same, the right is for border security, and the left is not.

 

[Lesh]

So there are two bills out there.

One is bipartisan and the other is completely partisan

One has funding in it for judges, border agents , more courts and detention facilities. The other does not.

One would shut down the border when asylum seekers reach a level that could overwhelm the system. The other just shuts down the border (a completely unsustainable idea).

Both have passed their respective Houses.
One would pass the other House
The other would not

The first is the Senate bipartisan bill

The second is the House bill that was never anything gesture

I repeat

 

[BrokeLoser]

That's what negotiating and compromising is for.

Democrats want a policy that works better for Mexico while Republicans want policy that works ONLY for Americans. How do you find compromise there?

 

[Lesh]

Democrats want a policy that works better for Mexico while Republicans want policy that works ONLY for Americans. How do you find compromise there?

It’s nonsensical fantasy

 

[BrokeLoser]

It’s nonsensical fantasy

How so…we craft legislation for Americans…not for Mexico’s people.

 

[Lesh]

How so…we craft legislation for Americans…not for Mexico’s people.

YOU don’t craft shit.

All you do is say stupid shit

 

[postman]

Dimocrats were free to join the support for the bill, but they did not want to see a bill pushed by the GOP to succeed.urity, and the left is not.

The republicans wrote a bill without any input from the democrats. They didn't seek their help, they didn't seek their support, they didn't seek their bill.
They wrote a bill they knew nobody else would support.
It's was all for show. That they could write something that had no political future.

They had lots of practice with the 100 or more bills to repeal Obamacare.

 

[postman]

Dimocrats were free to join the support for the bill, but they did not want to see a bill pushed by the GOP to succeed.

The GOP didn't want to see a bill pushed by the GOP succeed either. Or they would have tried to get bipartisan support for it.

 

[postman]

Democrats want a policy that works better for Mexico while Republicans want policy that works ONLY for Americans. How do you find compromise there?

The Art of the Deal?

 

[BrokeLoser]

The Art of the Deal?

We don’t make “deals” that fuck Americans and benefit Mexico’s people.

 

[BrokeLoser]

YOU don’t craft shit.

All you do is say stupid shit

The only shit you say is shit rooted in feelings Humberto…Tell us why you think Americans should craft Bills for Mexico?

 

[Care4all]

HR2 was passed last year. It has real border security measures in it, which is why Chuck Schumer refuses to even bring it up for a vote.

The Dem party is clearly for no borders.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2

It was not a bipartisan bill, half the citizen's representatives had no input or say.

It will not pass in full, without input from representatives on both sides working together.

 

[Invisibleflash]

HR2 was passed last year. It has real border security measures in it, which is why Chuck Schumer refuses to even bring it up for a vote.

The Dem party is clearly for no borders.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2

After 3+ years do we even have any question about open borders?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Funny, they got a bipartisan agreement in the senate.

Compared to the purely partisan house bill.

Funny, they got a bipartisan agreement in the senate.

Awesome! How many Republicans voted for it?

 

[Mac1958]

Imagine being a Republicans and thinking that you don’t have to negotiate anything with the other party.

They look at negotiating as weakness, since they're so weak at it. So they just don't do it and pretend it's the Dems' fault.

 

[boevans]

The GOP is blocking a border bill and the voters will make them pay for i.