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So then redistributing wealth upward from the worker to the rich capitalist is doomed to failure? I agree. Funding your bosses profits with your surplus production is doomed to failure? Again, I agree.Because socialism destroys that sense of individuality that humans have strived for ages to achieve, and HAVE achieved while dodging socialism's failed attempts at "progress" throughout history. Giving unto others must be a choice. Any society without this aspect of grace is doomed to fall flat on its face again and again. It's not an attempt at prophecy. It has been proven throughout recorded history with absolutely no exception.
My state has no income tax. My health insurance isn't a tax. It was paid by my employer.Between your federal income tax, your state income tax, your payroll tax that is applied to Medicare/Medicaid, and your health insurance deduction or expense, what percentage of your income do you pay out for these expenses?
These idiots pushing socialism haven't really studied it. They hear the propaganda and fall for the lure of utopia. They often mention the Netherlands. I suggest they move there and experience it for a couple years, then tell us how wonderful it is.Because socialism destroys that sense of individuality that humans have strived for ages to achieve, and HAVE achieved while dodging socialism's failed attempts at "progress" throughout history. Giving unto others must be a choice. Any society without this aspect of grace is doomed to fall flat on its face again and again. It's not an attempt at prophecy. It has been proven throughout recorded history with absolutely no exception.
What do you do for a living?So then redistributing wealth upward from the worker to the rich capitalist is doomed to failure? I agree. Funding your bosses profits with your surplus production is doomed to failure? Again, I agree.
Indeed. That is feudalism, another form of tyranny which suppresses individuality. However it is more true to nature because any living thing must fight to preserve it's existence upon birth and there will always be competition. I am by no means a supporter of the modern feudal model of the global corporation though. I believe the only role(s) of the government should be to prevent corporate monopolies and preserve Constitutional rights. It has no business appointing itself beyond that.So then redistributing wealth upward from the worker to the rich capitalist is doomed to failure? I agree. Funding your bosses profits with your surplus production is doomed to failure? Again, I agree.
Although I was born in the USA I'm the son of a German immigrant and have generally European roots across the board, ranging all the way from the Isle of Man to Poland and even Russia. My Dad used to tell me I have a very strong European element to my character, but I think that's mostly my basic temperament and my general weakness for good goulash and zesty ratatouille. Yes, I might agree with Dad in some ways, but I am extremely fond of what the U.S. Constitution represents and believe in it more than any European legislation, past or present. I am a gun-toting moderately conservative Pennsylvanian and proud of it (though my favorite carry gun is Polish!) The more I see of and read about culture in Europe, I am completely turned off. I'm not interested in the modern liberalism and micro-regulation of the European Union. Mainstream Europe is not on my short list "wanna visits". I want nothing to do with it and feel that via the globalist middle-men and their cooperative media, it is a potential threat to the freedoms we enjoy in the U.S.. They own Europe and they're trying to slowly impose that same bullshit on us Americans. They can keep their la-dee-da so called "social democracy", their foo-foo fashion, their sexual liberalism, and "global village" economic model and shove it so far up their Arschloch it ends up in China.These idiots pushing socialism haven't really studied it. They hear the propaganda and fall for the lure of utopia. They often mention the Netherlands. I suggest they move there and experience it for a couple years, then tell us how wonderful it is.
I'm trying to find a legitimate comparison of our "burden" to those of other countries like Denmark where medical costs and others are paid for out of taxes. You don't have a state tax. I don't have a sales tax. So it would be legitimate for you to include your sales tax in the estimate I'm trying to arrive at.My state has no income tax. My health insurance isn't a tax. It was paid by my employer.
I would say it's none of your business but I'm not like that. I'm a happily retired software developer. I also have experience in financial planning.What do you do for a living?
Wow. You certainly have your own perspective! Your ideas of feudalism in government is confusion. Your view of there being a "feudal model" is confusion. Your notion of it being even remotely possible to go back to small businesses and to preserve them is confusion and unachievable in our power structure today. Your belief that government's role should be strictly limited to preventing monopolies and to preserving Constitutional rights is unrealistic and a fantasy unrealized throughout the world. And your view of humanity as being predominantly competitive by nature denies a couple of hundred thousand years of living in societies and cooperating for survival and for its many benefits. The problem is that, with the natural variations in psychology and personalities living today within societies based on individual competitiveness and conflict (capitalism) the most successful people working within the system always turn out to be the most sociopathic opportunists who only care about themselves. So naturally many people see this and conclude that such behavior is "human nature" when it is actually an aberration (witness how few there are) and responsible for most of the problems in society today.Indeed. That is feudalism, another form of tyranny which suppresses individuality. However it is more true to nature because any living thing must fight to preserve it's existence upon birth and there will always be competition. I am by no means a supporter of the modern feudal model of the global corporation though. I believe the only role(s) of the government should be to prevent corporate monopolies and preserve Constitutional rights. It has no business appointing itself beyond that.
People are very misguided by these economic isms. They are paranoid of socialism...and yet the government they are afraid of is owned by globalist corporations and oligarchs...who impose a type of leveling on the consumer class. Yet attempts to control this absolutely through socialism has also led to stagnancy and suppression of individual achievements and eventual collapse. In a healthy economy, small PRIVATE businesses need to be the center of interest. Regulation should be mainly only be focused on critical needs and resources to prevent corporate monopolies in those areas. The government should also assure that there are multiple players at all times and that those who achieve success first can't simply slam the door on new players. The modern left makes a big mistake in injecting startups with government support, instead of forcing the big boys to continue to play by the rules and especially prevent them from rewriting the rules in their favor.
Believe me...as much as I am vehemently opposed to government intervention in business, I am also vehemently opposed to corporate intervention in government! Both are extremes in which the proponents both believe they are the antidote for the other. Both approaches result in a feudal society where the individual is degraded into a consumer cash cow or a government mule. In either system you are essentially a farm animal. However,humans need to always remember that nature has it that we are in competition with each other and there are winners and losers. This has to be our starting point. We can't allow competition to be forbidden by government and we can't allow competition to result in slavery either. Either way it is slavery. And let us not confuse slavery with contractual servitude. It is that contract that the government needs to protect on both sides or it fails to do its job and becomes corrupt.
Oh, I really don't think my perspective is all that unique at all, but thanks for the thought.Wow. You certainly have your own perspective! Your ideas of feudalism in government is confusion. Your view of there being a "feudal model" is confusion. Your notion of it being even remotely possible to go back to small businesses and to preserve them is confusion and unachievable in our power structure today. Your belief that government's role should be strictly limited to preventing monopolies and to preserving Constitutional rights is unrealistic and a fantasy unrealized throughout the world. And your view of humanity as being predominantly competitive by nature denies a couple of hundred thousand years of living in societies and cooperating for survival and for its many benefits. The problem is that, with the natural variations in psychology and personalities living today within societies based on individual competitiveness and conflict (capitalism) the most successful people working within the system always turn out to be the most sociopathic opportunists who only care about themselves. So naturally many people see this and conclude that such behavior is "human nature" when it is actually an aberration (witness how few there are) and responsible for most of the problems in society today.
And it's characterized by a fear of the truth for most. No inquiry. No curiosity. No critical thinking.Oh, I really don't think my perspective is all that unique at all, but thanks for the thought.
My employer cost for Healthcare premiums is part of my work benefit. I earn it.I'm trying to find a legitimate comparison of our "burden" to those of other countries like Denmark where medical costs and others are paid for out of taxes. You don't have a state tax. I don't have a sales tax. So it would be legitimate for you to include your sales tax in the estimate I'm trying to arrive at.
Doesn't the right like to argue that if employers didn't have to pay into benefits they would add that money to the employee's check? Yes, they do. So you can include your employers cost of your health insurance in your own costs for medical coverage.
That's essentially what I said. It's your money that you surrender to your employer, and therefore it is your cost of your health benefit. Comprehend much?My employer cost for Healthcare premiums is part of my work benefit. I earn it.
It's much better than medicare.That's essentially what I said. It's your money that you surrender to your employer, and therefore it is your cost of your health benefit. Comprehend much?
That's not the point. It's your cost.It's much better than medicare.
Yup, surrrre.And it's characterized by a fear of the truth for most. No inquiry. No curiosity. No critical thinking.
Give it up, BrokeLoser. She'll never notice you.Why Are Americans and Conservatives So Afraid of Socialism?
The greatest nation on the globe was built in a very short 150 years…It was built on the foundation of individualism and capitalism. Why let a bunch of lowlife degenerate beggars change America at its core?
(Another woke white guilt whaacko authors another anti American opinion piece)
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I see no problem with a combination of capitalism and social programs like we have now. However communism/socialism may sound great but has a terrible track record.What an interesting blog article on American ideas about civil responsibility and the knee jerk reaction of Americans generally, and Conservatives specifically, to fear community welfare and immediately associate it with socialism or communism. It led to her asking “What are you so afraid of?”, and she received 5 specific groups of fears:
She has some good responses to these fears that I can’t do just to for a short attention span. Read the link if you want. I think these fears keep America from being a great and caring nation.
- I’m scared of having to pay for other people’s laziness
- I’m scared because I don’t trust my government or other people generally
- I’m scared because socialism leads to authoritarianism
- I’m scared because socialists and communists kill a lot of people
- I’m not scared, socialism always fails
Why Are Americans and Conservatives So Afraid of Socialism?
I went a little bit viral on TikTok recently for voicing the unthinkable: I said that I like paying taxes. As you might imagine, the Americans and Conservatives in my comment section were shocked and appalled. The words communist and socialist were thrown around like insults, images of gulags and famine were invoked to prove some kind of vague and poorly-articulated point about freedom.
In contrast, the (predominantly western/northern) Europeans seemed to find my explanation pretty fair and even stopped to correct me on some of the finer points of Scottish, Scandinavian and German socialist democracy.
What shocked me, however, was not that so many Americans and Conservatives seemed to misunderstand fundamental aspects of civil life — like taxation — but that so many seemed so vehemently opposed to any suggestion that we should all contribute to the collective welfare of our countrymen.
Curiosity piqued, yesterday I made the mistake of asking Americans and Conservatives: “What is it about communism/socialism that scares you?” Here’s what they said.
What about the cost?That's not the point. It's your cost.
