Whoopi exemplified the “New Antisemitism” on the Far-Left, so let’s discuss its root causes

[Lisa558]

The increased antisemitism on the far-left takes the form of tolerating, downplaying or outright denying hostility toward Jews, as exemplified most recently by Whoopi, but seen elsewhere among leading Democrats such as their unwillingness to issue a focused antisemitism resolution after Omar‘s remarks. The rising antisemitism in Euroe can be attributed largely to Islamic fundamentalists, but there are underlying ideologies among leftists that has seen this phenomenon in America. There seem to be two underlying causes:

1) Jews are seen as White, and liberals say there cannot be racism against whites. This was clearly the “does not compute!” with Whoopi. As liberals have focused on anti-black racism, leading Democrats and liberal organizations, such as the ADL (originally started to fight antisemitism) have claimed that racism cannot be perpetrated toward or suffered by whites. Since the Jews of Europe were white, Whoopi was unable to process that Jews could have been genocided by Hitler due to his belief they were an inferior race, and thus she took race out of the equation.

2) It runs counter to the leftist narrative that a minority so persecuted - simply due to their membership in a minority - can rise to being above average in education, be awarded a disproportionate number of Nobel prizes, and come near the top in income and net worth. This fact negates the claim by liberals that blacks are, on average, below the curve due solely to racism. It speaks to what can be achieved with good choices and positive traits, such as emphasizing education, being disciplined and motivated, and of course delaying childbearing until marriage. Thus, liberals must “explain away” the Jews’ success by downplaying the degree of prejudice against them.

There is a third element contributing to this - the fact that the pro-Arqb, anti-Israel sentiment of liberals has “bled over” or otherwise fed antisemitism - but that is a topic on its own. Let’s try to leave Israel out of this discussion.

Weekend Read: The New Anti-Semitism

Across the world’s liberal democracies, anti-Semitism has metastasized into a crisis too large to ignore. Below, find some key resources Hudson Institute has produced to confront this problem: a national poll gauging the perspectives of likely 2020 voters on anti-Semitism; an English translation...

www.hudson.org

 

[Votto]

Omar sits up there and makes anti-Semitic comments all day in Congress

Her own party chastises her for being anti-Semitic, and then treats her like gold with zero consequences and more than likely win her seat back.

What are we to make of this?

 

[j-mac]

The lefts hatred for Jews is worn like a badge of honor within their ranks…Anything said to the contrary is just lip service.

Whoopie on the other hand approaches it from a black racist perspective, preening to protect the falsehood that only blacks are oppressed.

 

[AMart]

Critical theory has immigrated to Israel the oppressor. That is why Obama did Iran nuke deal.

 

[Lisa558]

Omar sits up there and makes anti-Semitic comments all day in Congress

Her own party chastises her for being anti-Semitic, and then treats her like gold with zero consequences and more than likely win her seat back.

What are we to make of this?

That speaks to the tolerance for and downplaying of antisemitism among liberals. Omar, for example, was the lead questioner in a Congressional testimony hearing the very day after her antisemitic remarks - and the prime witness was a Jew - and the Dems allowed her to proceed. She sneered at every answer the Jew gave, and the optics were terrible.

Can you imagine if a white Republican made racist remarks against blacks, and then the next day he was the lead questioner in testimony - with the primary witness a black? And then he sneered at every answer the black man gave?

 

[Lisa558]

The lefts hatred for Jews is worn like a badge of honor within their ranks…Anything said to the contrary is just lip service.

Whoopie on the other hand approaches it from a black racist perspective, preening to protect the falsehood that only blacks are oppressed.

That speaks to the #1 reason I outlined in the OP - that Jews in this country are overwhelming white, and thus there can’t possibly be any prejudice against them.

 

[Votto]

There is tolerance for Anti-Semitism in the Democrat party, but intolerance for political powers that challenge the democrat party.

Just like there is tolerance for Chinese genocide as Americans are sent to China for the Olympics, but intolerance for Georgia passing voting laws they don't like as they boycott the All Star game

 

[forkup]

The increased antisemitism on the far-left takes the form of tolerating, downplaying or outright denying hostility toward Jews, as exemplified most recently by Whoopi, but seen elsewhere among leading Democrats such as their unwillingness to issue a focused antisemitism resolution after Omar‘s remarks. The rising antisemitism in Euroe can be attributed largely to Islamic fundamentalists, but there are underlying ideologies among leftists that has seen this phenomenon in America. There seem to be two underlying causes:

1) Jews are seen as White, and liberals say there cannot be racism against whites. This was clearly the “does not compute!” with Whoopi. As liberals have focused on anti-black racism, leading Democrats and liberal organizations, such as the ADL (originally started to fight antisemitism) have claimed that racism cannot be perpetrated toward or suffered by whites. Since the Jews of Europe were white, Whoopi was unable to process that Jews could have been genocided by Hitler due to his belief they were an inferior race, and thus she took race out of the equation.

2) It runs counter to the leftist narrative that a minority so persecuted - simply due to their membership in a minority - can rise to being above average in education, be awarded a disproportionate number of Nobel prizes, and come near the top in income and net worth. This fact negates the claim by liberals that blacks are, on average, below the curve due solely to racism. It speaks to what can be achieved with good choices and positive traits, such as emphasizing education, being disciplined and motivated, and of course delaying childbearing until marriage. Thus, liberals must “explain away” the Jews’ success by downplaying the degree of prejudice against them.

There is a third element contributing to this - the fact that the pro-Arqb, anti-Israel sentiment of liberals has “bled over” or otherwise fed antisemitism - but that is a topic on its own. Let’s try to leave Israel out of this discussion.

Weekend Read: The New Anti-Semitism

Across the world’s liberal democracies, anti-Semitism has metastasized into a crisis too large to ignore. Below, find some key resources Hudson Institute has produced to confront this problem: a national poll gauging the perspectives of likely 2020 voters on anti-Semitism; an English translation...

www.hudson.org

First let's start with saying that there's another perfectly reasonable explanation for what Whoopi said. Namely that she spoke before she thought. Seems a more reasonable explanation that she is an anti-semite.

Next I would like to say the following. It is a perfectly reasonable position to have a genuine beef with policies implemented vis a vis the Palestinians by Israel, without being anti-semitic. It is an accusation levelled to easy and often unjustly at those that criticise Israel.

I personally have visited not just Aushwitz, but also several other places connected to the holocaust. The horrors there defy human understanding. That doesn't mean that I as a human am obliged to turn a blind eye when the children of those victims do things that are morally extremely questionable.

By the way. I would like to point out that in Charlotsville there where protesters shouting "Jews will not replace us" the counterprotesters to those people consisted of the big bad bogeyman of the right, namely ANTIFA. That is actual anti semitism and those opposing that motive have been vilified by the right ever since.

 

[j-mac]

That speaks to the #1 reason I outlined in the OP - that Jews in this country are overwhelming white, and thus there can’t possibly be any prejudice against them.

yes, heard that argument from the left a decade ago…Blacks can’t be racist….What a crock.

 

[Lisa558]

Critical theory has immigrated to Israel the oppressor. That is why Obama did Iran nuke deal.

That’s true - it speaks to the oppressor/oppressed narrative of liberals, and why they think whites can’t be subject to racism.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

The increased antisemitism on the far-left takes the form of tolerating, downplaying or outright denying hostility toward Jews, as exemplified most recently by Whoopi, but seen elsewhere among leading Democrats such as their unwillingness to issue a focused antisemitism resolution after Omar‘s remarks. The rising antisemitism in Euroe can be attributed largely to Islamic fundamentalists, but there are underlying ideologies among leftists that has seen this phenomenon in America. There seem to be two underlying causes:

1) Jews are seen as White, and liberals say there cannot be racism against whites. This was clearly the “does not compute!” with Whoopi. As liberals have focused on anti-black racism, leading Democrats and liberal organizations, such as the ADL (originally started to fight antisemitism) have claimed that racism cannot be perpetrated toward or suffered by whites. Since the Jews of Europe were white, Whoopi was unable to process that Jews could have been genocided by Hitler due to his belief they were an inferior race, and thus she took race out of the equation.

2) It runs counter to the leftist narrative that a minority so persecuted - simply due to their membership in a minority - can rise to being above average in education, be awarded a disproportionate number of Nobel prizes, and come near the top in income and net worth. This fact negates the claim by liberals that blacks are, on average, below the curve due solely to racism. It speaks to what can be achieved with good choices and positive traits, such as emphasizing education, being disciplined and motivated, and of course delaying childbearing until marriage. Thus, liberals must “explain away” the Jews’ success by downplaying the degree of prejudice against them.

There is a third element contributing to this - the fact that the pro-Arqb, anti-Israel sentiment of liberals has “bled over” or otherwise fed antisemitism - but that is a topic on its own. Let’s try to leave Israel out of this discussion.

Weekend Read: The New Anti-Semitism

Across the world’s liberal democracies, anti-Semitism has metastasized into a crisis too large to ignore. Below, find some key resources Hudson Institute has produced to confront this problem: a national poll gauging the perspectives of likely 2020 voters on anti-Semitism; an English translation...

www.hudson.org

Pondering thoughts........

If a new Star Wars movie comes out she could play The woke Black Jabba The Hub or whatever that blob was called

This is so hilarious that Wokester retards are eating fellow Wokester retards. It is so hilarious watching these children fight in their sandboxes

The only Wokesters left will be the originals, Boococki and Michael Obama

How could someone with the last name of GOLDBERG get tangled up in this.........lololololololol

It is time for you woke libturds here to Grow The Fuck Up and stop acting like petulant children who need smacked upside the head bigly

 

[candycorn]

First let's start with saying that there's another perfectly reasonable explanation for what Whoopi said. Namely that she spoke before she thought. Seems a more reasonable explanation that she is an anti-semite.

Next I would like to say the following. It is a perfectly reasonable position to have a genuine beef with policies implemented vis a vis the Palestinians by Israel, without being anti-semitic. It is an accusation levelled to easy and often unjustly at those that criticise Israel.

I personally have visited not just Aushwitz, but also several other places connected to the holocaust. The horrors there defy human understanding. That doesn't mean that I as a human am obliged to turn a blind eye when the children of those victims do things that are morally extremely questionable.

By the way. I would like to point out that in Charlotsville there where protesters shouting "Jews will not replace us" the counterprotesters to those people consisted of the big bad bogeyman of the right, namely ANTIFA. That is actual anti semitism and those opposing that motive have been vilified by the right ever since.

Oh oh...now you've done it. Here come the conspiracy theories as to who was chanting it/rationalization for it/distancing from the "unite the right" movement.

 

[Lisa558]

First let's start with saying that there's another perfectly reasonable explanation for what Whoopi said. Namely that she spoke before she thought. Seems a more reasonable explanation that she is an anti-semite.

Next I would like to say the following. It is a perfectly reasonable position to have a genuine beef with policies implemented vis a vis the Palestinians by Israel, without being anti-semitic. It is an accusation levelled to easy and often unjustly at those that criticise Israel.

I personally have visited not just Aushwitz, but also several other places connected to the holocaust. The horrors there defy human understanding. That doesn't mean that I as a human am obliged to turn a blind eye when the children of those victims do things that are morally extremely questionable.

By the way. I would like to point out that in Charlotsville there where protesters shouting "Jews will not replace us" the counterprotesters to those people consisted of the big bad bogeyman of the right, namely ANTIFA. That is actual anti semitism and those opposing that motive have been vilified by the right ever since.

You are exemplifying my points in the OP.

1) By saying her antisemitic remarks were due to her “speaking before she thought” is downplaying antisemitism. When whites say something racist against blacks, do you excuse it away by saying they just spoke too fast and aren’t necessarily racist? To the contrary, liberals are quick to yell “racist” at people who have done nothing other than disagree with liberal policies.

2) Let’s not make this about Israel. The thread will derail, as liberals claim that being against Israel is in no way related to being against Jews.

3) The Charlottesville event from the last decade is brought up repeatedly. This thread is not about the fringe nut cases, including that Islamic terrorist kidnapper from two weeks ago, but about the underlying ideologies of liberals that cause them to downplay antisemitism. That you bring up Charlottesville as an example of what you consider “actual” antisemitism, and give an excuse to Whoopi, is the very topic of this thread.: that liberals downplay antisemitism unless it is blatant and on the right.

That said, it is obvious you are a liberal, but I appreciate the polite tone you took in your response.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

It is a concern for society. I do not think that you can discuss this without referencing Israeli state sponsored atrocities and their apartheid policies.
Whenever Isis commits an atrocity we see a rish in Islamophobia around the world with Mosques getting attacked. We know this as a fact.
It would be absurd to pretend that this isnt the case for other communities.

 

[JoeB131]

The increased antisemitism on the far-left takes the form of tolerating, downplaying or outright denying hostility toward Jews, as exemplified most recently by Whoopi, but seen elsewhere among leading Democrats such as their unwillingness to issue a focused antisemitism resolution after Omar‘s remarks. The rising antisemitism in Euroe can be attributed largely to Islamic fundamentalists, but there are underlying ideologies among leftists that has seen this phenomenon in America. There seem to be two underlying causes:

Your massive ability to piss people off by pretending to be God's chosen people is not one of them, of course.

1) Jews are seen as White, and liberals say there cannot be racism against whites. This was clearly the “does not compute!” with Whoopi. As liberals have focused on anti-black racism, leading Democrats and liberal organizations, such as the ADL (originally started to fight antisemitism) have claimed that racism cannot be perpetrated toward or suffered by whites. Since the Jews of Europe were white, Whoopi was unable to process that Jews could have been genocided by Hitler due to his belief they were an inferior race, and thus she took race out of the equation.

A few points here. If I ran into you on the street, not knowing your name and thankfully not having to have a discussion with you, there is no way I could tell you were Jewish unless you told me. So your separateness is a matter of self-identification. In fact, one of the main complaints I hear is that a lot of traditional Jews feel the younger generations are losing their cultural identity to assimilation.

Blacks simply don't have that option. Sure you can name your black kid "Greg Smith" instead of Jamal Smith, and that might get him into the interview, but the minute the HR person sees he's a black dude, he's not getting that job unless they have to fill a quota.

Second point- Hitler didn't just kill the Jews. He killed gays, Roma, Slavs, the disabled, political dissidents. That's the kind of stuff you do when you are a crazy person.

2) It runs counter to the leftist narrative that a minority so persecuted - simply due to their membership in a minority - can rise to being above average in education, be awarded a disproportionate number of Nobel prizes, and come near the top in income and net worth. This fact negates the claim by liberals that blacks are, on average, below the curve due solely to racism. It speaks to what can be achieved with good choices and positive traits, such as emphasizing education, being disciplined and motivated, and of course delaying childbearing until marriage. Thus, liberals must “explain away” the Jews’ success by downplaying the degree of prejudice against them.

Well, kind of no downplaying. Jews in AMERICA never encountered that kind systematic racism that African-Americans did. Unlike Europe, where they were persecuted for not believing Jesus Did Magic Tricks, America was founded on a notion of freedom of religion in it's founding documents. In Europe, Church and State were intertwined, which is why it kind of sucked if you were a religious minority.

There is a third element contributing to this - the fact that the pro-Arqb, anti-Israel sentiment of liberals has “bled over” or otherwise fed antisemitism - but that is a topic on its own. Let’s try to leave Israel out of this discussion.

Yes, you look pretty silly when you try to whine about what the Nazis did 80 years ago, but then support the Zionists doing the same kind of shit today.

 

[candycorn]

You are exemplifying my points in the OP.

1) By saying her antisemitic remarks were due to her “speaking before she thought” is downplaying antisemitism. When whites say something racist against blacks, do you excuse it away by saying they just spoke too fast and aren’t necessarily racist?

2) Let’s not make this about Israel. The thread will derail, as liberals claim that being against Israel is in no way related to being against Jews.

3) The Charlottesville event from the last decade is brought up repeatedly. This thread is not about the fringe nut cases, including that Islamic terrorist kidnapper from two weeks ago, but about the underlying ideologies of liberals that cause them to downplay antisemitism. That you bring up Charlottesville as an example of what you consider “actual” antisemitism, and give an excuse to Whoopi, is the very topic of this thread.: that liberals downplay antisemitism unless it is blatant and on the right.

That said, it is obvious you are a liberal, but I appreciate the polite tone you took in your response.

Charlottesville was like 5 years ago. It was not "fringe nut cases"...it was a "unite the right" rally.

 

[JoeB131]

You are exemplifying my points in the OP.

1) By saying her antisemitic remarks were due to her “speaking before she thought” is downplaying antisemitism. When whites say something racist against blacks, do you excuse it away by saying they just spoke too fast and aren’t necessarily racist? To the contrary, liberals are quick to yell “racist” at people who have done nothing other than disagree with liberal policies.

Or, Whoopi has encountered actual racism all of her life, while Jews are still whining about something that happened 80 years ago on the other side of the planet. And what was her horrible crime? Pointing out that the Holocaust was white people killing other white people? She also clearly stated it was a bad thing. The problem here is that you want a special brand of victimhood for yourself, but not for others.

2) Let’s not make this about Israel. The thread will derail, as liberals claim that being against Israel is in no way related to being against Jews.

Yes, again, we know you don't want to have to defend ZioNazi practices.

3) The Charlottesville event from the last decade is brought up repeatedly. This thread is not about the fringe nut cases, including that Islamic terrorist kidnapper from two weeks ago, but about the underlying ideologies of liberals that cause them to downplay antisemitism. That you bring up Charlottesville as an example of what you consider “actual” antisemitism, and give an excuse to Whoopi, is the very topic of this thread.: that liberals downplay antisemitism unless it is blatant and on the right.

Except Whoopi didn't try to claim that the Holocaust was justified or didn't happen. She just pointed out it was white people killing other white people. Again, you gloss over that of the 12 million people killed in the Holocaust, only 6 million of them were Jews. the rest were other people Hitler considered "undesirable". In fact, they had a whole system for marking their victims.

 

[JoeB131]

That speaks to the tolerance for and downplaying of antisemitism among liberals. Omar, for example, was the lead questioner in a Congressional testimony hearing the very day after her antisemitic remarks - and the prime witness was a Jew - and the Dems allowed her to proceed. She sneered at every answer the Jew gave, and the optics were terrible.

Can you imagine if a white Republican made racist remarks against blacks, and then the next day he was the lead questioner in testimony - with the primary witness a black? And then he sneered at every answer the black man gave?

What amazes me.

Even though Jews only make up 2% of the population of the US, they make up 6% of Congress. (8% of the Senate)
Muslims make up about 1% of the population of the US, but there have only been four Muslims elected to Congress, ever.
Atheists/Agnostics make up 26% of the population, but there are no openly atheist people in Congress. Most of them at least pretend they believe Jesus did Magic Tricks.

 

[AMart]

Charlottesville was like 5 years ago. It was not "fringe nut cases"...it was a "unite the right" rally.

They were paid and bused in and organized by Jason Kessler .....who is probably Jewish.

 

[Lisa558]

It is a concern for society. I do not think that you can discuss this without referencing Israeli state sponsored atrocities and their apartheid policies.
Whenever Isis commits an atrocity we see a rish in Islamophobia around the world with Mosques getting attacked. We know this as a fact.
It would be absurd to pretend that this isnt the case for other communities.

The fact that you have to bring Israel into a discussion of antisemitism, with your lies about it being an apartheid state, does show the link between Israel and Jew hate. Also telling is that on a thread about rising antisemitism and the left’s tendency to downplay, you ignore causes named in the OP, and go straight to your concern for rising Islamophobia. This is an example of the type of antisemitism on the left. Thanks for demonstrating it.