Whoa: Lefty The Atlantic Says Every American Should Want Trump to Prevail Against China

[EduardBernstein]

That is a lie. China had a famine like it did long before communism. Now communism has turned China into a educated superpower.

So let me get this straight...you're just fine and dandy with killing off millions of your citizens if it makes you a "superpower"? It isn't communism that's turned China into a superpower. They were a superpower LONG before communism even existed. Where they could be now if they had stayed away from communism?

China was very poor, and illiterate before communism. Now it is perhaps the most educated nation on the planet. It is also not so poor anymore. Certainly far from all the capitalist shitholes that used to be richer than China in the third world countries.

You know nothing about Chinese history. It was one of the richest nations in the world and one of the most advanced long before communism reared it's ugly head.

The data says China was extremely poor. List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

Does your "data" tell you about the plight of the rural Chinese? GDP has increased by leaps and bounds for China but there is a massive gap between well being in rural areas and in urban areas. Oh, wait...you'd have to actually KNOW something about China to grasp that...you're more of a "China For Idiots" kind of guy...aren't you!

China was poorer than Africa in 1973. What about today?

 

[Oldstyle]

As for Chinese "education"? The Chinese have been sending their kids to US colleges for decades now. Why? Because that's where you go if you REALLY want to be educated! Congrats...your posts today are almost as moronic as your posts yesterday!

I find it odd that you anti-education assfucks now say we have a great system of colleges & universities.

I thought they were all evil dens run by liberals.

I'm amused that you find someone with a degree in history and an MBA is an "anti-education ass fuck"! I love education...I'm just not fond of liberal indoctrination in the place of education!

 

[basquebromance]

during Obama's final meeting with Xi, unprompted, Xi assured O that he would implement the Paris accord even without the US.

"that's very wise of you. you will continue to see investment in the US in Paris, from states, cities, and the private sector" - Obama bellowed

HIP HIP HOORAY!

Xi is a big man who moves slowly and deliberately, as if he wants people to see his every motion. he dramatically pushed aside the binder of Chinese talking points and bellowed in perfect English: "we prefer to have a good relationship with the US. That is good for the world. but every action will have a reaction. and if an immature leader throws the world into chaos, the world will know who to blame!"

 

[Oldstyle]

So let me get this straight...you're just fine and dandy with killing off millions of your citizens if it makes you a "superpower"? It isn't communism that's turned China into a superpower. They were a superpower LONG before communism even existed. Where they could be now if they had stayed away from communism?

China was very poor, and illiterate before communism. Now it is perhaps the most educated nation on the planet. It is also not so poor anymore. Certainly far from all the capitalist shitholes that used to be richer than China in the third world countries.

You know nothing about Chinese history. It was one of the richest nations in the world and one of the most advanced long before communism reared it's ugly head.

The data says China was extremely poor. List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

Does your "data" tell you about the plight of the rural Chinese? GDP has increased by leaps and bounds for China but there is a massive gap between well being in rural areas and in urban areas. Oh, wait...you'd have to actually KNOW something about China to grasp that...you're more of a "China For Idiots" kind of guy...aren't you!

China was poorer than Africa in 1973. What about today?

At the cost of millions of lives...communist China moved from a mostly agrarian economy to an industrial economy. My question to you is at what human cost? Chinese peasants living in rural areas are not much better off than they were a hundred years ago.

 

[danielpalos]

China was very poor, and illiterate before communism. Now it is perhaps the most educated nation on the planet. It is also not so poor anymore. Certainly far from all the capitalist shitholes that used to be richer than China in the third world countries.

You know nothing about Chinese history. It was one of the richest nations in the world and one of the most advanced long before communism reared it's ugly head.

The data says China was extremely poor. List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

Does your "data" tell you about the plight of the rural Chinese? GDP has increased by leaps and bounds for China but there is a massive gap between well being in rural areas and in urban areas. Oh, wait...you'd have to actually KNOW something about China to grasp that...you're more of a "China For Idiots" kind of guy...aren't you!

China was poorer than Africa in 1973. What about today?

At the cost of millions of lives...communist China moved from a mostly agrarian economy to an industrial economy. My question to you is at what human cost? Chinese peasants living in rural areas are not much better off than they were a hundred years ago.

it is usually about management. in the US, our Civil War should have been prevented through eminent domain.

 

[Mac1958]

My (wild-ass) guess is that Trump will be given an opening to divide these talks into individual tariffs and intellectual property theft.

If that happens, hammering out some tariff agreements would be easier than dealing with theft, and they may do that to show progress. Then they might agree to deal with the theft issue later, or on a different level. Markets would love that.

The question is whether China has already decided to wait until the results of the 2020 elections to make any significant commitments.
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[danielpalos]

My (wild-ass) guess is that Trump will be given an opening to divide these talks into individual tariffs and intellectual property theft.

If that happens, hammering out some tariff agreements would be easier than dealing with theft, and they may do that to show progress. Then they might agree to deal with the theft issue later, or on a different level. Markets would love that.

The question is whether China has already decided to wait until the results of the 2020 elections to make any significant commitments.
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Corporate welfare is alive and well in the US. Why is this a problem for the private sector in the US?

 

[EduardBernstein]

China was very poor, and illiterate before communism. Now it is perhaps the most educated nation on the planet. It is also not so poor anymore. Certainly far from all the capitalist shitholes that used to be richer than China in the third world countries.

You know nothing about Chinese history. It was one of the richest nations in the world and one of the most advanced long before communism reared it's ugly head.

The data says China was extremely poor. List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

Does your "data" tell you about the plight of the rural Chinese? GDP has increased by leaps and bounds for China but there is a massive gap between well being in rural areas and in urban areas. Oh, wait...you'd have to actually KNOW something about China to grasp that...you're more of a "China For Idiots" kind of guy...aren't you!

China was poorer than Africa in 1973. What about today?

At the cost of millions of lives...communist China moved from a mostly agrarian economy to an industrial economy. My question to you is at what human cost? Chinese peasants living in rural areas are not much better off than they were a hundred years ago.

Communism played a role in educating, and industrializing China. Why not speak of all the famines under capitalism? Capitalists, and Nazis like to just point fingers at communists.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

China is better than the United States. China isn't a Nazi cesspool. Chinese food is better, and Chinese women are cute, not flabby heifers like American ones are usually.

I don't know if you're being serious and I disagree with much of it, however it did make me laugh at it's offensiveness.

When was the last time a Chinese man has shot up a synagogue? When was the last time you saw a Chinese man on the street corner with his paper bag drinking? When was the last time you saw a fat Chinese woman covered with tattoos? Chinese are superior over Americans.

No they're not. If they were they wouldnt be pirating everything known to man.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

You know nothing about Chinese history. It was one of the richest nations in the world and one of the most advanced long before communism reared it's ugly head.

The data says China was extremely poor. List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

Does your "data" tell you about the plight of the rural Chinese? GDP has increased by leaps and bounds for China but there is a massive gap between well being in rural areas and in urban areas. Oh, wait...you'd have to actually KNOW something about China to grasp that...you're more of a "China For Idiots" kind of guy...aren't you!

China was poorer than Africa in 1973. What about today?

At the cost of millions of lives...communist China moved from a mostly agrarian economy to an industrial economy. My question to you is at what human cost? Chinese peasants living in rural areas are not much better off than they were a hundred years ago.

Communism played a role in educating, and industrializing China. Why not speak of all the famines under capitalism? Capitalists, and Nazis like to just point fingers at communists.

Yeah, because under communism over a hundred million were killed and murdered. You can take your communism and stuff it.

 

[EduardBernstein]

The data says China was extremely poor. List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

Does your "data" tell you about the plight of the rural Chinese? GDP has increased by leaps and bounds for China but there is a massive gap between well being in rural areas and in urban areas. Oh, wait...you'd have to actually KNOW something about China to grasp that...you're more of a "China For Idiots" kind of guy...aren't you!

China was poorer than Africa in 1973. What about today?

At the cost of millions of lives...communist China moved from a mostly agrarian economy to an industrial economy. My question to you is at what human cost? Chinese peasants living in rural areas are not much better off than they were a hundred years ago.

Communism played a role in educating, and industrializing China. Why not speak of all the famines under capitalism? Capitalists, and Nazis like to just point fingers at communists.

Yeah, because under communism over a hundred million were killed and murdered. You can take your communism and stuff it.

Mostly by famine which probably has nothing to do with communism. If you want to think famine is caused by economics why not talk about the famines engineered under capitalism? Let us also talk about the Nazis initiating WWII which killed 85 million people?

 

[danielpalos]

Upgrading our port cities could enable us to generate revenue to recover costs.

 

[SmokeALib]

My (wild-ass) guess is that Trump will be given an opening to divide these talks into individual tariffs and intellectual property theft.

If that happens, hammering out some tariff agreements would be easier than dealing with theft, and they may do that to show progress. Then they might agree to deal with the theft issue later, or on a different level. Markets would love that.

The question is whether China has already decided to wait until the results of the 2020 elections to make any significant commitments.
.

China, and the rest of the planet, already knows the results of the 2020 election.

 

[danielpalos]

What does the private sector need to "expense to achieve equilibrium"?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Does your "data" tell you about the plight of the rural Chinese? GDP has increased by leaps and bounds for China but there is a massive gap between well being in rural areas and in urban areas. Oh, wait...you'd have to actually KNOW something about China to grasp that...you're more of a "China For Idiots" kind of guy...aren't you!

China was poorer than Africa in 1973. What about today?

At the cost of millions of lives...communist China moved from a mostly agrarian economy to an industrial economy. My question to you is at what human cost? Chinese peasants living in rural areas are not much better off than they were a hundred years ago.

Communism played a role in educating, and industrializing China. Why not speak of all the famines under capitalism? Capitalists, and Nazis like to just point fingers at communists.

Yeah, because under communism over a hundred million were killed and murdered. You can take your communism and stuff it.

Mostly by famine which probably has nothing to do with communism. If you want to think famine is caused by economics why not talk about the famines engineered under capitalism? Let us also talk about the Nazis initiating WWII which killed 85 million people?

No, it wasn't mostly by famine, it was because of communism. Dont try to whitewash history. National socialism didn't work either.

 

[EduardBernstein]

China was poorer than Africa in 1973. What about today?

At the cost of millions of lives...communist China moved from a mostly agrarian economy to an industrial economy. My question to you is at what human cost? Chinese peasants living in rural areas are not much better off than they were a hundred years ago.

Communism played a role in educating, and industrializing China. Why not speak of all the famines under capitalism? Capitalists, and Nazis like to just point fingers at communists.

Yeah, because under communism over a hundred million were killed and murdered. You can take your communism and stuff it.

Mostly by famine which probably has nothing to do with communism. If you want to think famine is caused by economics why not talk about the famines engineered under capitalism? Let us also talk about the Nazis initiating WWII which killed 85 million people?

No, it wasn't mostly by famine, it was because of communism. Dont try to whitewash history. National socialism didn't work either.

Famines happened long before communism. Famines still occur because of capitalism.List of famines - Wikipedia

 

[jc456]

I think many are tired and wants the nightmare over with. I'd love to have the upperhnand on China, I don't think destroying the global economy to get there is worth it.

it is in mine. so?

 

[jc456]

China is better than the United States. China isn't a Nazi cesspool. Chinese food is better, and Chinese women are cute, not flabby heifers like American ones are usually.

I don't know if you're being serious and I disagree with much of it, however it did make me laugh at it's offensiveness.

When was the last time a Chinese man has shot up a synagogue? When was the last time you saw a Chinese man on the street corner with his paper bag drinking? When was the last time you saw a fat Chinese woman covered with tattoos? Chinese are superior over Americans.

When is the last time our government kidnapped/slaughtered a bunch of Americans in broad daylight? Power is more centralized in China. They're dangerous for that reason.

China didn't nuke anybody, China isn't bombing Iraq, China isn't bombing Afghanistan. Who could that be?

the leader of the world.

 

[Oldstyle]

You know nothing about Chinese history. It was one of the richest nations in the world and one of the most advanced long before communism reared it's ugly head.

The data says China was extremely poor. List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

Does your "data" tell you about the plight of the rural Chinese? GDP has increased by leaps and bounds for China but there is a massive gap between well being in rural areas and in urban areas. Oh, wait...you'd have to actually KNOW something about China to grasp that...you're more of a "China For Idiots" kind of guy...aren't you!

China was poorer than Africa in 1973. What about today?

At the cost of millions of lives...communist China moved from a mostly agrarian economy to an industrial economy. My question to you is at what human cost? Chinese peasants living in rural areas are not much better off than they were a hundred years ago.

Communism played a role in educating, and industrializing China. Why not speak of all the famines under capitalism? Capitalists, and Nazis like to just point fingers at communists.

If communism is so great at educating, Ed...would you like to take a crack at explaining why China's elite send their children to the US for college? Interesting article in USA Today about how the number of Chinese buying up expensive houses in the US has declined this year. They were snapping up million dollar properties paying cash money and they were doing so not only as a secure investment but also for a place for their children to stay while they were attending college! The fact is...there is a new class of Chinese...the ultra wealthy. China now has the second largest number of billionaires in the world...trailing only the US. That's happened despite communism not because of it! The Chinese government has allowed private businesses to exist. Why? Because a semi capitalistic way of doing things spurs growth...communism does not!

 

[Oldstyle]

You know nothing about Chinese history. It was one of the richest nations in the world and one of the most advanced long before communism reared it's ugly head.

The data says China was extremely poor. List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

Does your "data" tell you about the plight of the rural Chinese? GDP has increased by leaps and bounds for China but there is a massive gap between well being in rural areas and in urban areas. Oh, wait...you'd have to actually KNOW something about China to grasp that...you're more of a "China For Idiots" kind of guy...aren't you!

China was poorer than Africa in 1973. What about today?

At the cost of millions of lives...communist China moved from a mostly agrarian economy to an industrial economy. My question to you is at what human cost? Chinese peasants living in rural areas are not much better off than they were a hundred years ago.

it is usually about management. in the US, our Civil War should have been prevented through eminent domain.

The American Civil War could have been prevented by eminent domain? REALLY!!! I would love to hear about how that would have worked, Daniel! To think I majored in history with a concentration in American history and I've heard nothing about how eminent domain could have saved the day! Please enlighten me!