Who would have won a fight between Bruce Lee and Mike Tyson ?

the question we should be asking is what if Tyson would have trained as an mma fighter in his youth !! now that would be something !

No, the question is what the outcome would be if both Tyson and Lee had been on the same airplane when it crashed into a volcano and scientists were able to salvage parts of each and make two part-Tyson/part-Lee cyborgs programmed to fight to the death.
oh man ! that is awesome and diabolical !:scared1:
 
Thinking about it, I think I like to believe Lee could have beaten Tyson, for one because I like to root for the underdog, and Lee would definately be the underdog. Secondly, probably because I just have a bias towards Kung Fu and that type of discipline, but the reality I think when you look at it is Tyson probably wins in his prime, and if Lee was to lose, I think it would take nothing away from his legacy. Tyson in his prime probably would have beaten every other man on planet earth in the boxing ring.
The only reason I would give Lee a chance is because of his ability to control his body and mind. His hand eye coordination was second to none... and speed was in his favor. Unfortunately we will never know for sure.
 
... take down/grappling defense is rather journeyman that anyone coordinated has little issue with.....


Not against someone who is expert at takedowns and jujutsu by any stretch.
Depends I guess on what we each mean by all of these words.

Too many men in the fight game in general...are uncoordinated nerds who get by against other uncoordinated nerds and thats all the way up to the mid ranks of the UFC level, sometimes. Its crazier than people think, too.

Its an art and there are killers, but theres a culture of undeserving wimps who are getting by too far with the art part of it that have no business being where theyre at in terms of athleticism, guts and grit or things of that nature that theyd need for the Championship level.
 
I say Dirty Hairy takes out both Tyson and Lee in a street fight.

 
I'd go with Bruce Lee. I think he would've been much too quick for Tyson and with a couple well placed kicks he would've knocked Tyson OUT quickly.
You’re kidding, right? Clearly you never saw Tyson fight. He had more hand speed than any boxer ever - including Muhammad Ali.
 
MMA guys take fighting to a different level than boxers. We all saw James Tony get embarrassed. Even though he was way past his prime, he was still one of the best pure boxers in the heavy weight/light heavy weight division of all time.
I wouldnt put the idea to bed based on Toney's performance...that would be ridiculous.

He was old, punchy and came into it INCREDIBLY out of shape.

A half dozen world class heavyweights in their Prime ...fighting in MMA... would settle it. It could go either way...but a boxers hands are slick and dangerous.

For littler guys...MMA has a clean advantage over boxing because there's less knockout power in general across the division.

Floyd Mayweather isnt knocking anyone out, for example...he hits like a girl and his hands always break. His last k.o. was hitting a man who was paused with his hands down, not counting Conor's loss due to exhaustion

randy Coture was old too. In general these guys in MMA are better fighters. We’re now at a point where MMA and boxers are in terrific shape, so that doesn’t matter. The boxers are susceptible to take down moves, and don’t know what to do when they’re on the ground,
Part 2 of that is true, but take down/grappling defense is rather journeyman that anyone coordinated has little issue with

thats why chuck liddel rarely didnt have a fist fight

boxers are creatures of habit. They’re not used to defending shin kicks, takedowns and submissions. The MMA guys have more in their arsenal, both of us can agree on that, and they’re just as tough as boxers these days, in general.
The creature of habit thing is kind of a charicature, and sorta implies that in a 12 to 17wk training camp...any man, let alone just a boxer...wouldn't have the wherewithall to switch a fighting strategy. Thats not true, man...I can tell you from experience it doesnt even take 1 whole sparring session of a different discipline to convert your brain to being fully engaged in the new set of rules, for moves.

Id say...skillset advantage goes to the MMA guy but the tactical striking of an MMA guy with his hands, particularly, is no place close to a boxer of similar status in his respective field. Thats what makes the cross over interesting...the overall skillset is advantageous to the MMA folks and the footwork and hand strikes of the boxers would be advantageous.

Not to mention...I wouldnt count some boxers out on the mats, either...because most of the elite ones are freak athletes in general.

Its probably like...boxers in their prime vs. mma in their prime....mma wins 30 outta 50 or something like that

okay you bring up good points
 
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the question we should be asking is what if Tyson would have trained as an mma fighter in his youth !! now that would be something !

No, the question is what the outcome would be if both Tyson and Lee had been on the same airplane when it crashed into a volcano and scientists were able to salvage parts of each and make two part-Tyson/part-Lee cyborgs programmed to fight to the death.
oh man ! that is awesome and diabolical !:scared1:

Ever wonder why Holyfield didn't bleed when Tyson bit his ear off?...

...think about it...
 
the question we should be asking is what if Tyson would have trained as an mma fighter in his youth !! now that would be something !

No, the question is what the outcome would be if both Tyson and Lee had been on the same airplane when it crashed into a volcano and scientists were able to salvage parts of each and make two part-Tyson/part-Lee cyborgs programmed to fight to the death.
oh man ! that is awesome and diabolical !:scared1:

Ever wonder why Holyfield didn't bleed when Tyson bit his ear off?...

...think about it...



There was no blood left in those cauliflower ears! At that point they are basically like foam rubber.:rolleyes:
 
the question we should be asking is what if Tyson would have trained as an mma fighter in his youth !! now that would be something !

No, the question is what the outcome would be if both Tyson and Lee had been on the same airplane when it crashed into a volcano and scientists were able to salvage parts of each and make two part-Tyson/part-Lee cyborgs programmed to fight to the death.
oh man ! that is awesome and diabolical !:scared1:

Ever wonder why Holyfield didn't bleed when Tyson bit his ear off?...

...think about it...



There was no blood left in those cauliflower ears! At that point they are basically like foam rubber.:rolleyes:

Not "like foam rubber," they were actually made of foam rubber!
 
Are used to train with Kenny Florian back in the day.. spared with many
 
I'd go with Bruce Lee. I think he would've been much too quick for Tyson and with a couple well placed kicks he would've knocked Tyson OUT quickly.
You’re kidding, right? Clearly you never saw Tyson fight. He had more hand speed than any boxer ever - including Muhammad Ali.
But Lee was unbelievably quick AND he could kill someone with a KICK. Tyson was so muscle bound, I don't think he could lift his legs high enough to kick. Lee would've creamed his ass quickly, probably in just a few minutes or less.
 
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One more thing to consider...

Is that most MMA folks grew up engaged in one discipline throughout their formative years.

Something like Wrestling.
Or kickboxing
jiujitsu
Or muay-tai...

are common ones.

They get to such an elite level...that to get in the cage, they need to learn the other skills.

The wrestler is going to be a novice striker
The kickboxer is going to be a novice wrestler


and on and on and on...


And in virtue of literally...nothing, can a boxer not develop an MMA arsenal of skills in the same way that all of the other disciplines have to...

by crash course...same as they all went through to learn the skills that they didnt have
 
I'd go with Bruce Lee. I think he would've been much too quick for Tyson and with a couple well placed kicks he would've knocked Tyson OUT quickly.
You’re kidding, right? Clearly you never saw Tyson fight. He had more hand speed than any boxer ever - including Muhammad Ali.
But Lee was unbelievably quick AND he could kill someone with a KICK. Tyson was so muscle bound, I don't think he could lift his legs high enough to kick. Lee would've creamed his ass quickly, probably in just a few minutes or less.

How many people did Lee kill with a kick? Pretty sure it’s a very round number. Tyson was anything but “muscle bound.” Don’t get too excited.
 

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