Who won the debate?

[j-mac]

Whatever you need to tell yourself is cool by me.

A little music for your morning...

Is that your theme song?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Is that your theme song?

One of them.

There is no bigger compliment for a 60 year old than to have someone tell them they do not act their age.

 

[j-mac]

One of them.

There is no bigger compliment for a 60 year old than to have someone tell them they do not act their age.

As long as you think you’re funny, that’s one

 

[JoeB131]

That's nice. No one believes this, and the Springfield thing has fast, long-lasting legs

And you know it

Meh, not really. Haitians have actually revitalized Springfield.

Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio: Why they chose this city

For the last five years, many immigrants from Haiti have moved to Springfield, Ohio, and the number continues to grow.

www.daytondailynews.com

Most are in the city legally and have or are eligible for Temporary Protected Status, a federal immigration designation that allows them to legally live and work in the U.S. Some have an asylum claim pending and, like immigrants across the nation, face a severely backlogged immigration system that is complicated and the subject of heated political rhetoric.

One big question: Why did Haitians start moving to Springfield in the first place?

Reporter Lynn Husley, who has extensively covered the Haitian community there, says this: “They are attracted to a community that has plentiful job opportunities and supportive services for them.”

Hulsey says sources she has interviewed report those who come to Springfield will tell their family and friends back home they can find affordable living in Springfield as well.

Oh, the Goose eating thing? Also bullshit.

County: No evidence of August claim that Haitians took geese at Springfield park

Clark County officials said Wednesday morning that they cannot substantiate a new claim alleging Haitian immigrants were killing and/or eating wildlife.

www.springfieldnewssun.com

Clark County officials said Wednesday morning that they cannot substantiate a new claim alleging Haitian immigrants were killing and/or eating wildlife.

A man called Clark County law enforcement dispatchers Aug. 26, alleging four Haitians were carrying geese in their hands. The call audio does not indicate whether the geese were alive or dead, but says it happened within the city of Springfield, near the bike trail along Buck Creek, near Water Street. The audio was first posted Tuesday night on X by Donald Trump Jr.

A “call detail report” from the Clark County Communications Center documents that call. It does not indicate that law enforcement officials ever found the geese, or found the four Haitians that the caller mentioned, to confirm the truth of the report. It says law enforcement eventually suggested the caller contact the Ohio Department of Natural Resources.

Clark County Commissioner Sasha Rittenhouse said Wednesday morning that the Ohio Department of Natural Resources was unable to find any merit to the claim.

“No videos have surfaced, no pictures have surfaced, no dead geese have surfaced; there’s nothing to substantiate that it’s happening,” Rittenhouse said at county commission’s regular meeting.

 

[lafayette]

Since you have never shown us you are a pathologist, we are free to ignore your claims.

And as to me, I make no claims. I rely on experts to make their own claims.

You don't agree with the official report. That is your conspiracy nonsense coming out again.,

 

[surada]

The moderators left a lot of Trump's lies untouched. Probably because there were so many of them it would have taken the entire hour and a half to call him out on all of them.

He lied that Biden left $85 billion of military equipment in Afghanistan. $85 billion was the total expenditure over a 20 year period equipping and training the Afghan forces.

He lied that the recent inflation was the highest in history. Trump knows damned well that's a lie because he was in his 30s in the 1970s.

He lied his economy was the greatest in US history. Not even close.





Lowest unemployment in decades.

Plummeting crime rate.

Booming manufacturing construction.

Highest stock market in history.

The CHIPS Act and Inflation Reduction Act to bring back manufacturing in strategic industries.

Export controls on semiconductors and semiconductor manufacturing equipment to keep them out of China.

Moving our outsourced manufacturing out of China and into friendly countries ("friendsourcing").

An infrastructure bill which Trump failed to get done despite his promise to do so.

Medicare drug price negotiation enacted. Another unfulfilled Trump promise.

More people are employed in manufacturing under Biden than under Trump.


What did Trump achieve other than a tax break for himself, record trade deficits, and a million dead Americans?

Trump Tariff Aid To Farmers Cost More Than U.S. Nuclear Forces

The $28 billion for farmers raises questions about using taxpayer money to shield policymakers from the consequences of tariff increases.

www.forbes.com

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He's like the black knight on Monte Python and the Holy Grail.

*if the Black Knight were a rapist charity thief insurrectionist felon who sees the presidency as nothing more than a pathway to personal gain

 

[HikerGuy83]

Pure garbage.

Even democrats are crying for a full on investigation of ABC.

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

MSN

www.msn.com

You linked to right wing commentary about an op-ed article written by two Trump allies.

Would you like to retract your comments and start over?

 

[Slade3200]

That's nice. No one believes this, and the Springfield thing has fast, long-lasting legs

And you know it

Nobody needs to believe it. It’s just how it is.

 

[Slade3200]

Harris couldn’t outmatch anyone…canned, rehearsed lines prove nothing.

Yet she demolished Trump on the debate stage. Go figure

 

[Slade3200]

MSN

www.msn.com

Who are the Dems calling for an investigation of ABC? Your link just showed Fox News commentators

 

[HikerGuy83]

Who are the Dems calling for an investigation of ABC? Your link just showed Fox News commentators

If watched the link you's see Kurtz is arguing against the investigation former Clintonites are calling for.

I suspect there is some bad blood somewhere.

BTW: I am not doing your homework for you anymore.

 

[Slade3200]

If watched the link you's see Kurtz is arguing against the investigation former Clintonites are calling for.

I suspect there is some bad blood somewhere.

BTW: I am not doing your homework for you anymore.

My bad I didn’t watch the videos. But I do see this guy you are calling a dem as anything but… yes he worked for the Clinton’s back in the day but he has been on the Trump train for years now… all over Fox News. It’s disingenuous to say the Dems are calling for an investigation by pointing to the stuff this guy is saying

 

[Robert W]

You don't agree with the official report. That is your conspiracy nonsense coming out again.,

Here is my basis for defending the cop.
Try to read this from an honest man. If a cop is dirty, he does not belong out as a cop. He should be got rid of not too long when he proves he is a bad cop. Chauvin was a cop for 19 years. This is from Wikipedia.

Chauvin was a member of the Minneapolis Police Department from 2001 to 2020. In his career, Chauvin had 18 complaints against him in his official record and was involved in three police shootings, one of which was fatal. He received two letters of reprimand for misconduct.

It does not tell us much about complaints. The term complaint is misleading. Involved in shootings. What does that mean in real terms? One was fatal. We don't know a thing about that.

Anyway, on the trial, there were pathologists who stated factually that George Floyd had substances in his blood. Floyd had an enlarged heart. A serious heart condition. Mom died due to that. It hit me when she lived, she did not tell us she had a very large heart. This means the normal heart was growing. And as they get bigger, the person will die. Even not knowing that what hit me was how Floyd commenced when the cops put him in the cop car to suddenly claim he could not breathe. This is a practice by blacks when arrested. It is very common for them to make that same claim. How could being in a cop car be a cause to not breathe.
The position of Chauvin with his knee. He was holding down a arrest person who was fighting them. Chauvin had to hold this man down since he refused to stay in the cop car.
Saying he could not breath was assumed to be a way to get up.
Chauvin had a gun had he wanted to kill Floyd. HE could beat him up but did not do that. All he did was keep Floyd on the pavement. Chauvin was wrongly convicted.

 

[Robert W]

You linked to right wing commentary about an op-ed article written by two Trump allies.

Would you like to retract your comments and start over?

It was an excellent news commentary. The bad new commentaries were those involved at ABC in helping Harris totally but attacking Trump. Muir and his side partner did not ever do to Harris what they did to Trump. They changed it from a debate between her and him to one involving 3 debaters against Trump and ABC did not supply any there who liked Trump.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

It was an excellent news commentary.

Then why did you feel the need to misrepresent it?

You must not feel it's all that strong.

Here is about how that internal investigation would go.

Why did you fact check trump more than harris?

Because His lies were egregious lies that are going to harm people.

Investigation over.

 

[JoeB131]

Here is my basis for defending the cop.
Try to read this from an honest man. If a cop is dirty, he does not belong out as a cop. He should be got rid of not too long when he proves he is a bad cop. Chauvin was a cop for 19 years. This is from Wikipedia.

Here's the problem with that, MormonBob2. The police unions, the FOP and the PBA, make it damned near impossible to fire bad cops. It's not just Chauvin having 18 prior complaints. Jason van Dyke, the mutant who pumped 16 rounds into Laquan McDonald here in Chicago, had 20 prior complaints of misconduct towards suspects and civilians. One of them involved a traffic stop where he dislocated a suspect's arm and the city had to pay out $350,000. Police joke about such settlements as "winning the ghetto lottery".

Timothy Loehman, who shot Tamir Rice while he was playing with a toy, had been dismissed from the Indpendence, OH, PD because he lacked the maturity to become a cop, including an emotional breakdown on a gun range where the range officer had to take his gun away from him. Sean Grayson, the guy who shot Soyna Massey in the face while she cowered in her kitchen had been fired from multiple police departments in central IL.

Most cops ARE good guys. But they build this blue wall around the bad apples. They go to work with an us vs. them mentality. It's why I find Thin Blue Line Flags so offensive. I don't need to be protected from half the country. We need to fix the whole country.

Anyway, on the trial, there were pathologists who stated factually that George Floyd had substances in his blood. Floyd had an enlarged heart. A serious heart condition. Mom died due to that. It hit me when she lived, she did not tell us she had a very large heart. This means the normal heart was growing. And as they get bigger, the person will die. Even not knowing that what hit me was how Floyd commenced when the cops put him in the cop car to suddenly claim he could not breathe. This is a practice by blacks when arrested. It is very common for them to make that same claim. How could being in a cop car be a cause to not breathe.

Wow. Those sneaky devious blacks. How devious of them. So I guess the logical solution to that was for Chauvin to PUT HIS KNEE ON THE MAN'S NECK, so that we know he wasn't faking it when he said, "I can't breathe".

The position of Chauvin with his knee. He was holding down a arrest person who was fighting them. Chauvin had to hold this man down since he refused to stay in the cop car.
Saying he could not breath was assumed to be a way to get up.

But he was handcuffed and manacled. He wasn't going anywhere. An ambulance was on the way to see if he had real medical problems or was faking it.

Chauvin had a gun had he wanted to kill Floyd. HE could beat him up but did not do that. All he did was keep Floyd on the pavement. Chauvin was wrongly convicted.

So this is your logic, that because he could have killed him in other ways, the way he killed him was okay somehow.

 

[JoeB131]

It was an excellent news commentary. The bad new commentaries were those involved at ABC in helping Harris totally but attacking Trump. Muir and his side partner did not ever do to Harris what they did to Trump. They changed it from a debate between her and him to one involving 3 debaters against Trump and ABC did not supply any there who liked Trump.

Kamala didn't lie her ass off like Cheeto Hitler did.

And most of the damage Trump did he did to himself.

Take the exchange where when asked a question about immigration, he spent a minute and a half talking about how his dick crowds weren't small at all. Then he babbled into that already debunked lie about Haitians eating cats, which was so absurd, everyone laughed out loud about it. Muir rightly corrected him that those reports were false.

 

[Robert W]

Here's the problem with that, MormonBob2. The police unions, the FOP and the PBA, make it damned near impossible to fire bad cops. It's not just Chauvin having 18 prior complaints. Jason van Dyke, the mutant who pumped 16 rounds into Laquan McDonald here in Chicago, had 20 prior complaints of misconduct towards suspects and civilians. One of them involved a traffic stop where he dislocated a suspect's arm and the city had to pay out $350,000. Police joke about such settlements as "winning the ghetto lottery".

Timothy Loehman, who shot Tamir Rice while he was playing with a toy, had been dismissed from the Indpendence, OH, PD because he lacked the maturity to become a cop, including an emotional breakdown on a gun range where the range officer had to take his gun away from him. Sean Grayson, the guy who shot Soyna Massey in the face while she cowered in her kitchen had been fired from multiple police departments in central IL.

Most cops ARE good guys. But they build this blue wall around the bad apples. They go to work with an us vs. them mentality. It's why I find Thin Blue Line Flags so offensive. I don't need to be protected from half the country. We need to fix the whole country.



Wow. Those sneaky devious blacks. How devious of them. So I guess the logical solution to that was for Chauvin to PUT HIS KNEE ON THE MAN'S NECK, so that we know he wasn't faking it when he said, "I can't breathe".



But he was handcuffed and manacled. He wasn't going anywhere. An ambulance was on the way to see if he had real medical problems or was faking it.





So this is your logic, that because he could have killed him in other ways, the way he killed him was okay somehow.

I will add to my case for Chauvin. First the claim is Floyd was stopped from breathing. And Floyd was loaded with medical problems unknown to the cops. His massive heart was a sign of instant death. The Fentanyl in his blood was a true danger to anybody with a massive oversized heart. And given he started in with the I can't breathe excuse much earlier gave me plenty of suspicion all it was was a lame excuse. Mom woke up the day she died and told my father she was feeling so good she commented it was a super good day. She suddenly died sitting in a rocking chair watching tv that evening and her problem was what Floyd had. The lawyers should have gone into that issue much more. I am not clear they even addressed his super oversized heart that is known to kill people very fast.