Who shall investigate the investigators (a J6 committee update)!

[struth]

1. You didn’t answer the question. How can he get to trial if he’s not allowed to prosecute the president?
2. It has zero impact. Case law does not work that way.
3. The hacks that Trump installs in the DoJ.

1) I did, he had years to go to trial before trump was reelected. Why didn’t he?
2) yes it’s called caselaw. You don’t understand how it works clearly
3) they didn’t need pardons. Like xiden’s admin for crimes against the United States

 

[Marener]

1) I did, he had years to go to trial before trump was reelected. Why didn’t he?
2) yes it’s called caselaw. You don’t understand how it works clearly
3) they didn’t need pardons. Like xiden’s admin for crimes against the United States

1. Prosecutors don’t decide when trials start. Judges do and everyone has to abide by due process. That can take years. It’s amazing how little you know about the judicial system.
2. Case law doesn’t bind any judge and it’s not even considered outside your district for trial judges. It’s meaningless. Which is why Chutkan didn’t dismiss the case on those grounds.
3. They’re going to need pardons if they’re willing to follow Trump’s corrupt orders.

 

[struth]

1. Prosecutors don’t decide when trials start. Judges do and everyone has to abide by due process. That can take years. It’s amazing how little you know about the judicial system.
2. Case law doesn’t bind any judge and it’s not even considered outside your district for trial judges. It’s meaningless. Which is why Chutkan didn’t dismiss the case on those grounds.
3. They’re going to need pardons if they’re willing to follow Trump’s corrupt orders.

1) correct, judges do, when there is a case.
2) yes some case law can
3) they are going to? They didn’t before did they? Xiden’s admin we know did, for crimes against the United States

 

[alang1216]

I don’t know what crimes were committed, we won’t know until it’s investigated

A witch hunt is a series of investigations and persecutions of people accused of witchcraft or of holding unpopular views. The term is also used in politics to describe the harassment of political opponents.

 

[BackAgain]

A witch hunt is a series of investigations and persecutions of people accused of witchcraft or of holding unpopular views. The term is also used in politics to describe the harassment of political opponents.

And?

 

[alang1216]

Pardons by the president are for crimes against the United States. Now you do bring up a good point they might not be valid since they didn’t specifically state a crime.

So the DOJ might need to investigate as well

So the DOJ doesn't know of any crime but they should investigate? I guess that means they should investigate everyone, I mean, who knows what they'll find.

 

[struth]

A witch hunt is a series of investigations and persecutions of people accused of witchcraft or of holding unpopular views. The term is also used in politics to describe the harassment of political opponents.

Agreed, we have seen our share of that the past 8 years out of Congress and sadly the White House the past four.

That’s why xiden had to issue pardons for crimes against the United States to so many in congress and his admin

 

[Marener]

1) correct, judges do, when there is a case.
2) yes some case law can
3) they are going to? They didn’t before did they? Xiden’s admin we know did, for crimes against the United States

1. Judges do, when all pre trial procedures are completed, which had yet to occur in either case. Yet again, I educate you on how the legal system works.
2. It clearly didn’t here.
3. The DoJ didn’t listen to Trumps corrupt orders before, but now that he’s installing people loyal to him and not the country, all bets are off.

 

[struth]

So the DOJ doesn't know of any crime but they should investigate? I guess that means they should investigate everyone, I mean, who knows what they'll find.

Of course they know of crimes. Xiden just issued pardons for crimes against the United States

 

[alang1216]

And?

Not everyone believes political harassment is a good thing. Place your whataboutism here: <>

 

[alang1216]

Of course they know of crimes. Xiden just issued pardons for crimes against the United States

What crimes are these?

 

[struth]

1. Judges do, when all pre trial procedures are completed, which had yet to occur in either case. Yet again, I educate you on how the legal system works.
2. It clearly didn’t here.
3. The DoJ didn’t listen to Trumps corrupt orders before, but now that he’s installing people loyal to him and not the country, all bets are off.

1) yes and sometimes they don’t go to trial when their is no case after the pre trial procedures expose that..see Jack smith
2) of course it did.
3) what corrupt orders are you referring to? I thought you all claimed Barr was his bag man? Did Trump ever illegally appointed someone or have to issue pardons to his admin for crimes against the United States?

 

[struth]

What crimes are these?

The ones xiden’s issued pardons for

 

[BackAgain]

Not everyone believes political harassment is a good thing.

Nor did I ever say, suggest or even imply that it did, you fuckin’ moron.

Place your whataboutism here: <>

I didn’t engage in whataboutism, either, you jerkoff.

 

[Marener]

1) yes and sometimes they don’t go to trial when their is no case after the pre trial procedures expose that..see Jack smith
2) of course it did.
3) what corrupt orders are you referring to? I thought you all claimed Barr was his bag man? Did Trump ever illegally appointed someone or have to issue pardons to his admin for crimes against the United States?

1. Sometimes, but that's not what happened here.
2. Nope. Chutkan didn't find Smith was illegally appointed so the "case law" had ZERO impact. Hell, even if Cannon had been upheld by the 11th circuit, it still wouldn't have affected the DC case.
3. Barr was actually more loyal to the country than to Trump, but he did tiptoe on that line from time to time.

Trump illegally appointed Chad Wolfe.
Trump pardoned Michael Flynn.

So he did both!

 

[struth]

1. Sometimes, but that's not what happened here.
2. Nope. Chutkan didn't find Smith was illegally appointed so the "case law" had ZERO impact. Hell, even if Cannon had been upheld by the 11th circuit, it still wouldn't have affected the DC case.
3. Barr was actually more loyal to the country than to Trump, but he did tiptoe on that line from time to time.

Trump illegally appointed Chad Wolfe.
Trump pardoned Michael Flynn.

So he did both!

1) of course it did, it didn’t go to trial. He had four years to do it and couldn’t
2) I didn’t say that judge did, she didn’t rule on it yet. It was a moot point for her.
3) flynn was fired from his admin and not given a blanket, pre-empetive pardon. Chad Wolfe was not found to be illegally appointed. He was confirmed by the senate as Under Secretary, he ended up as acting but what was illegal was how the prior sec changed the line of succession.

 

[Marener]

1) of course it did, it didn’t go to trial. He had four years to do it and couldn’t
2) I didn’t say that judge did, she didn’t rule on it yet. It was a moot point for her.
3) flynn was fired from his admin and not given a blanket, pre-empetive pardon. Chad Wolfe was not found to be illegally appointed. He was confirmed by the senate as Under Secretary, he ended up as acting but what was illegal was how the prior sec changed the line of succession.

1. Charges were filed August 2023. He didn't have 4 years. It was barely over a year. It's hardly unusual that it didn't make it to trial in that time for such a complicated case.
2. Cannon dismissed the case in July. Chutkan had plenty of time to make a ruling if the "case law" had any effect, but it didn't. You said it did. You were wrong.
3. You asked if anyone was given a pardon for crimes against the against the United States. Now you're moving the goalposts.

Federal judge rules acting DHS head Chad Wolf unlawfully appointed, invalidates DACA suspension

"This is really a hopeful day for a lot of young people across the country," said Karen Tumlin, a lawyer in the case and director of the Los Angeles-based Justice Action Center.

www.nbcnews.com

Chad Wolfe was illegally appointed to be head of the DHS. I guess we should probably file charges on him, right?

 

[struth]

1. Charges were filed August 2023. He didn't have 4 years. It was barely over a year. It's hardly unusual that it didn't make it to trial in that time for such a complicated case.
2. Cannon dismissed the case in July. Chutkan had plenty of time to make a ruling if the "case law" had any effect, but it didn't. You said it did. You were wrong.
3. You asked if anyone was given a pardon for crimes against the against the United States. Now you're moving the goalposts.

Federal judge rules acting DHS head Chad Wolf unlawfully appointed, invalidates DACA suspension

"This is really a hopeful day for a lot of young people across the country," said Karen Tumlin, a lawyer in the case and director of the Los Angeles-based Justice Action Center.

www.nbcnews.com

Chad Wolfe was illegally appointed to be head of the DHS. I guess we should probably file charges on him, right?

1) he could of filed them earlier but of course waited til he announced he was running
2) she did have plenty have plenty of time for o make that ruling if she wanted, I agree. But didn’t, she let it drag on to impact the election
3) no his appointed was invalid he was confirimed by the senate as under sec but not illegal. He didn’t break the law. The order of.succession was improperly changed by the prior sec, making his succcession to acting invalid.

You should really educate yourself on topics before jumping off at the mouth. You just sound more stupid

 

[Dante]

Some of us remember the tired, old, wasteful GOP created sub-committees and the GOP led hearings since 2000.

Nothing gained, lots of $$$$ lost.

 

[Marener]

1) he could of filed them earlier but of course waited til he announced he was running
2) she did have plenty have plenty of time for o make that ruling if she wanted, I agree. But didn’t, she let it drag on to impact the election
3) no his appointed was invalid he was confirimed by the senate as under sec but not illegal. He didn’t break the law. The order of.succession was improperly changed by the prior sec, making his succcession to acting invalid.

You should really educate yourself on topics before jumping off at the mouth. You just sound more stupid

1. He needed to complete a thorough investigation before filing charges. That's what a proper prosecutor does. Jack Smith wasn't even appointed until he announced he was running, so you're way off base.
2. She didn't make the ruling because Cannon's ruling had no effect. In fact, I believe DC Circuit precedent would prevent her from making a ruling. Unlike Cannon, precedent in the DC Circuit is binding.
3. The judge said his appointment wasn't only invalid, it was ILLEGAL.

He concluded, "Wolf was not lawfully serving as Acting Secretary of Homeland Security under the HSA [Homeland Security Act] when he issued the Wolf Memorandum" that suspended DACA.

He broke the law and should be in jail. Right?