Zone1 Who Say That They are Jews and are Not

[Lisa558]

Lisa: "You know that Jews don’t believe that the 1st century Jewish carpenter is a 'deity.'"

^^^ You said it ... not me. ^^^

Well……DUH. What’s the big secret? You know Jews don’t worship mortal men.

 

[Lisa558]

Technically, the Khazars aren't semitic.

For the record: I'm pro-Shem, pro-Abraham, pro-Isaac, pro-Jacob, pro-David, pro-Mary & Joseph, and pro-Jesus Christ. It's hard to be more pro-Semitic than that.

But anti-Jew. Otherwise, you wouldn’t go with this ridiculous “ah-hah! You deny Jesus is Savior and Lord!!” nonsense when speaking with a Jew.

 

[SaxonJackson]

But anti-Jew. Otherwise, you wouldn’t go with this ridiculous “ah-hah! You deny Jesus is Savior and Lord!!” nonsense when speaking with a Jew.

You're opposed to Christ; you deny Christ; you reject Christ; you're anti-Christ. End of story.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Well……DUH. What’s the big secret? You know Jews don’t worship mortal men.

EYE WITNESSES say otherwise. And they were murdered for their testimony.But again you REJECT CHRIST but get angry when you are called "antichrist."
As long as you continue to accuse everyone of antisemitism I will do the same for you

 

[Lisa558]

You're opposed to Christ; you deny Christ; you reject Christ; you're anti-Christ. End of story.

He is a non-factor. I wouldn’t say I am “opposed” to the man who was standing in front of the grocery store waiting for his Uber, either. Same thing.

You are just a nasty Christian who enjoys annoying Jews, and you’re being ridiculous.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I have been very successful as most Jews tend to be. My family as well its in the genes

How Ayrian of you

 

[Lisa558]

How Ayrian of you

It IS true that Jews, as a group, are more successful than average - and this despite blatant antisemitism.

My father had to move out of NYC post WWII because the antisemitism was so great he couldn’t get a job - despite being at the top of his class. He moved to DC, and got a good job, and went on to live an accomplished and successful life.

RIP, Dad.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

The reason for the antisemitism differs depending on whether the antisemite is on the right or on the left.

Antisemites on the right: On the right, as Carl, Saxon, and other fundamental Christians show, it’s all religion-based. They smear and denigrate Jews living in the 21st century because a small little group of 1st century Jews were angry at Jesus, and might have influenced his crucifixion. Basically, 2,000 years ago, when there were about 5 million Jews, 0.0001% of them hated Jesus. The other 99.999% never heard of the guy.

Antisemites on the left: Today, most of the antisemites are on the Left, screaming “Death to Jews,” bullying the Jewish kids, setting up “No Jew Zones,” etc., etc. The root of these antisemites is their resentment that a small little tribe, subjected to the worst persecution and bigotry for 2,000 years, manages to rise above to become above-average in achievement: Nobel prizes, educational attainment, income, whatever. It shows that with the right attributes and choices in life, racism or bigotry does NOT hold people back. IOW, it reveals the lie to the Left’s insistence that blacks are mired in poverty due to racism.

And there is a third strain as well - the radical libertarian. They are cut in the same cloth as Lew Rockwell or Ron Paul where Jews are the ultimate puppet masters organizing world events.

 

[Quantrill]

God only promised PHYSICAL BLESSINGS to national Israel/Judah. Great material wealth and blessings from Israel,, and thru Judah, the Messiah came
Judah today has no spiritual blessing (eternal life) promises above anyone else. In fact, because they reject Christ AT THIS TIME, they are not recipients of that SPIRITUAL GIFT

I disagree. Why do you separate 'physical blessing' from 'spiritual blessings'? As though physical means nothing. As though physical is evil and spiritual is good?

The physical can be just as eternal as the spiritual. Is not Jesus Christ today a physical Man sitting at the right hand of the Father? Is He not the very Son of God...God the Son? Is He not Spiritual?

Satan is nothing but a 'spiritual being'. Yet is nothing but evil. The first sin was created in Heaven by Satan.

The promises God gave to Israel are physical and spiritual, and eternal. The New Covenant was promised to Israel by God and He will not break His promise.

(Jeremiah 31:33-37)

"But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

"And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

"Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:

"If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me forever.

Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD."

Do you believe God will not honor His promises? Will God go back on His Word?

Quantrill

 

[Meriweather]

But again you REJECT CHRIST but get angry when you are called "antichrist."

And rightfully so she gets angry. Anyone of any faith who feels they must tear down another religion/faith is insecure in his/her own faith--and Carl, it is you, not Lisa, who are showing insecurity. After Jesus' death, the Apostles understood that many of the Jewish faith were not anti-Christ, but he was clearly a stumbling block in their own faith. Why? Because Jesus clearly was not the messiah/king Jews had been expecting--and he did not pretend to be. He said time and again that he was not the expected messiah. Jesus did state he was the one whom Moses spoke of--he did not state he was the king/messiah the prophet, Nathan, spoke of.

Painted throughout Jewish history are the troubles that came to the Jews when they did not remain faithful to God and His ways--when they accepted idols. God was continually working with the remnant who remained faithful to His Covenant with them. Who is anyone to say that today's remnant should not remain faithful to an eternal covenant? Do they need Jesus to remain faithful to that eternal Covenant? Jesus pretty much said he came for those of us who were not capable of following/adhering to that Covenant and he set up a new Covenant to include all. Originally, this was call Hodos (The Way), rooted in the Jewish custom of walking in The Way of God.

Instead of looking at the New Covenant as the stumbling block to Jews, perhaps Gentiles should be looking at the Old Covenant as a stumbling block to us. Preferring the Old Covenant--an eternal Covenant with God--does not make one "anti-Christ" any more than preferring a peach tree to an orange tree make one anti-orange tree. Surely there are better ways of re-introducing Jesus to the Jewish community than calling them anti-Christ. Shame on those who label them as such.

 

[Kruska]

Technically, the Khazars aren't semitic.

For the record: I'm pro-Shem, pro-Abraham, pro-Isaac, pro-Jacob, pro-David, pro-Mary & Joseph, and pro-Jesus Christ. It's hard to be more pro-Semitic than that.

She can't even differentiate between an Israeli, a Jew, a Hebrew, and a Zionist that misuses the Bible/OT to do his dirty work.
Why? because she is a Zionist

 

[Carl in Michigan]

And rightfully so she gets angry. Anyone of any faith who feels they must tear down another religion/faith is insecure in his/her own faith--and Carl, it is you, not Lisa, who are showing insecurity. After Jesus' death, the Apostles understood that many of the Jewish faith were not anti-Christ, but he was clearly a stumbling block in their own faith. Why? Because Jesus clearly was not the messiah/king Jews had been expecting--and he did not pretend to be. He said time and again that he was not the expected messiah. Jesus did state he was the one whom Moses spoke of--he did not state he was the king/messiah the prophet, Nathan, spoke of.

Painted throughout Jewish history are the troubles that came to the Jews when they did not remain faithful to God and His ways--when they accepted idols. God was continually working with the remnant who remained faithful to His Covenant with them. Who is anyone to say that today's remnant should not remain faithful to an eternal covenant? Do they need Jesus to remain faithful to that eternal Covenant? Jesus pretty much said he came for those of us who were not capable of following/adhering to that Covenant and he set up a new Covenant to include all. Originally, this was call Hodos (The Way), rooted in the Jewish custom of walking in The Way of God.

Instead of looking at the New Covenant as the stumbling block to Jews, perhaps Gentiles should be looking at the Old Covenant as a stumbling block to us. Preferring the Old Covenant--an eternal Covenant with God--does not make one "anti-Christ" any more than preferring a peach tree to an orange tree make one anti-orange tree. Surely there are better ways of re-introducing Jesus to the Jewish community than calling them anti-Christ. Shame on those who label them as such.

Answer a fool according to her folly
And no, she is dead wrong to continually try to silence anyone who disagrees with her by accusing them of ANTISEMITISM.

What's good for the gander is good for the goose. I'm sick of both their bigotry (Lisa/Hafar) and yes, by definition I use the term antichrist appropriately.

And as a Catholic, who persecuted more than your share, you should be embarrassed to lecture anyone

 

[Lisa558]

And rightfully so she gets angry. Anyone of any faith who feels they must tear down another religion/faith is insecure in his/her own faith--and Carl, it is you, not Lisa, who are showing insecurity. After Jesus' death, the Apostles understood that many of the Jewish faith were not anti-Christ, but he was clearly a stumbling block in their own faith. Why? Because Jesus clearly was not the messiah/king Jews had been expecting--and he did not pretend to be. He said time and again that he was not the expected messiah. Jesus did state he was the one whom Moses spoke of--he did not state he was the king/messiah the prophet, Nathan, spoke of.

Painted throughout Jewish history are the troubles that came to the Jews when they did not remain faithful to God and His ways--when they accepted idols. God was continually working with the remnant who remained faithful to His Covenant with them. Who is anyone to say that today's remnant should not remain faithful to an eternal covenant? Do they need Jesus to remain faithful to that eternal Covenant? Jesus pretty much said he came for those of us who were not capable of following/adhering to that Covenant and he set up a new Covenant to include all. Originally, this was call Hodos (The Way), rooted in the Jewish custom of walking in The Way of God.

Instead of looking at the New Covenant as the stumbling block to Jews, perhaps Gentiles should be looking at the Old Covenant as a stumbling block to us. Preferring the Old Covenant--an eternal Covenant with God--does not make one "anti-Christ" any more than preferring a peach tree to an orange tree make one anti-orange tree. Surely there are better ways of re-introducing Jesus to the Jewish community than calling them anti-Christ. Shame on those who label them as such.

Thank you so much. As I’ve said before, you are the most respectful Christian on this forum. I appreciate your standing up for me as I take on these nasty Christians attacking Judaism, and me personally.

And then they have the nerve to say they’re not antisemitic. Who else would address a nice Jewish woman as “you lying anti-Christ!” All they’re doing is showing me that Christians are intolerant and hateful toward anyone who doesn’t believe the way they do. Thankfully, you are providing a counter-weight to that.

 

[Lisa558]

Answer a fool according to her folly
And no, she is dead wrong to continually try to silence anyone who disagrees with her by accusing them of ANTISEMITISM.

What's good for the gander is good for the goose. I'm sick of both their bigotry (Lisa/Hafar) and yes, by definition I use the term antichrist appropriately.

And as a Catholic, who persecuted more than your share, you should be embarrassed to lecture anyone

Calling me a “lying anti-Christ!!” just reeks of antisemitism. Who do you think you’re fooling?

 

[SaxonJackson]

And rightfully so she gets angry. Anyone of any faith who feels they must tear down another religion/faith is insecure in his/her own faith--and Carl, it is you, not Lisa, who are showing insecurity. After Jesus' death, the Apostles understood that many of the Jewish faith were not anti-Christ, but he was clearly a stumbling block in their own faith. Why? Because Jesus clearly was not the messiah/king Jews had been expecting--and he did not pretend to be. He said time and again that he was not the expected messiah. Jesus did state he was the one whom Moses spoke of--he did not state he was the king/messiah the prophet, Nathan, spoke of.

Painted throughout Jewish history are the troubles that came to the Jews when they did not remain faithful to God and His ways--when they accepted idols. God was continually working with the remnant who remained faithful to His Covenant with them. Who is anyone to say that today's remnant should not remain faithful to an eternal covenant? Do they need Jesus to remain faithful to that eternal Covenant? Jesus pretty much said he came for those of us who were not capable of following/adhering to that Covenant and he set up a new Covenant to include all. Originally, this was call Hodos (The Way), rooted in the Jewish custom of walking in The Way of God.

Instead of looking at the New Covenant as the stumbling block to Jews, perhaps Gentiles should be looking at the Old Covenant as a stumbling block to us. Preferring the Old Covenant--an eternal Covenant with God--does not make one "anti-Christ" any more than preferring a peach tree to an orange tree make one anti-orange tree. Surely there are better ways of re-introducing Jesus to the Jewish community than calling them anti-Christ. Shame on those who label them as such.

I always find it interesting that "Christians" are quick to attack Christians in defense of them who deny Christ. Very revealing!!

 

[Meriweather]

Answer a fool according to her folly
And no, she is dead wrong to continually try to silence anyone who disagrees with her by accusing them of ANTISEMITISM.

What's good for the gander is good for the goose. I'm sick of both their bigotry (Lisa/Hafar) and yes, by definition I use the term antichrist appropriately.

And as a Catholic, who persecuted more than your share, you should be embarrassed to lecture anyone

That's hilarious. Apparently you think everyone but you live in a fallen world. Everyone, but you and your organizations, are totally innocent, perfect in every way. Jews and Catholics don't lose the fight when they fall, because both Jews and Catholics get up, set things right, and move onward. All throughout history Jews have fallen, and all throughout history got up and moved forward. Catholics, throughout the past two thousand years, have worked to emulate that. We have faith in God's continued guidance over stormy seas, and God's mercy.

 

[Lisa558]

I always find it interesting that "Christians" are quick to attack Christians in defense of them who deny Christ. Very revealing!!

You’re a disgusting Jew-hater, with your “deny Christ” shit, and I’m glad Merriweather took you on.

Tell me…..the majority of religions in the world “deny Christ.” What aren’t you swiping at any of THEM? Why do you use “Christ denier” as a hateful label only to Jews?

 

[Lisa558]

That's hilarious. Apparently you think everyone but you live in a fallen world. Everyone, but you and your organizations, are totally innocent, perfect in every way. Jews and Catholics don't lose the fight when they fall, because both Jews and Catholics get up, set things right, and move onward. All throughout history Jews have fallen, and all throughout history got up and moved forward. Catholics, throughout the past two thousand years, have worked to emulate that. We have faith in God's continued guidance over stormy seas, and God's mercy.

Thank you. That intolerant bigot cannot seem to grasp that he is FURIOUS at anyone who won’t submit to his belief system, and then comments on how angry I get when someone disagrees with me.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

That's hilarious. Apparently you think everyone but you live in a fallen world. Everyone, but you and your organizations, are totally innocent, perfect in every way. Jews and Catholics don't lose the fight when they fall, because both Jews and Catholics get up, set things right, and move onward. All throughout history Jews have fallen, and all throughout history got up and moved forward. Catholics, throughout the past two thousand years, have worked to emulate that. We have faith in God's continued guidance over stormy seas, and God's mercy.

Don't LIE about me, and I won't tell the brutally honest truth about you.
Simple as that

And why does she resent being called antichrist when she denies Christ

 

[Lisa558]

Don't LIE about me, and I won't tell the brutally honest truth about you.
Simple as that

And why does she resent being called antichrist when she denies Christ

I’m going to start calling YOU “anti-Gd.” You are denying what He told us about the Messiah, and Jesus doesn’t qualify.