Who Really Loves Russia?

[mudwhistle]

So you support Iran in this, apparently.

How do you define treason?

Something to do with giving aid to our enemies.

Them Democrats are never on our side, are they.....

Brown people are good.
White people are evil.
Yellow people are smart......(and have small penises)
This is the left’s simple-minded idiology.

From my experience all of the above isn't universally true.

That you’ve experienced yellow people with penises that are not small is pretty sick.

I spent too much time going thru training in the military to assume that Asians all have small penises.

BTW, I'm assuming you never took Gym in school, because you're the type that never served, or were you one of those girls that were afraid of being naked in the girls locker room?

Wow, Mud guy, you get the prize for the dumbest post i read today, and that’s saying a LOT.

Well congratulations, because your post beat mine. And to think I held the crown for roughly 5 minutes. Imagine my disappointment.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Are y

Yet, you read every word, and they put the burr under your saddle, don't they, you donkey.



More to come.....don't miss it.

Lol, no. Sorry, but all I read was your thread title and it struck me as humorously ironic.

You do.....every word.


All the dolts who can't refute them, claim to not read them....


...after they read them.


Seems the most common Liberal response, right after “is not, isssssss nooootttttt!!! …and “Sez you!”



I guarantee you'll be back.

Lmao! I don't even usually open your ridiculous rwnj screeds. As previously stated, I found your thread title humorously ironic and couldn't resist tovarish.

I guaranteed you'd be back....and read my posts.

Gads, you're easy to train.

Doggie treat?

Lol, you go right on believing that. Look back, other than today when was the last time i responded to any of your Russian sponsored nonsense?

Oooo......look who's back! The dunce who claimed he doesn't read my posts!


Admit it....I'm the flame to you, moth.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I absolutely LOVE Russia and always will and I'm from Ukraine. And millions of foreign fans who came to Russia this summer for World Cup fell in love with Russia and were so surprised how the reality was different to what their Media was telling them. I would recommend OP to visit modern Russia (which is neither communist nor socialist!) before starting the threads like this. May be following links will help you to learn some truth about real Russia, not an alleged one.

Russia’s picturesque cities, warm people and delicious food, BBC Sport pundit Chris Sutton tweeted in a heartfelt farewell to the tournament’s host country. He even went so far as to note that the host nation had been unfairly maligned
Charmed: BBC Sport pundit tweets out farewell to ‘beautiful, friendly’ Russia

TheGuardian:Message to the English: come to Russia and feel the love
Message to the English: come to Russia and feel the love | Tom Rosenthal

TheGuardian: “The warmth of the welcome here has been absolutely outstanding. All the fans have commented on that and Volgograd seems delighted to welcome everybody,” said Lindsay Skoll, the deputy British ambassador to Russia.
England fans enjoy stay in Volgograd with no repeat of Marseille violence

TheGuardian:
When the World Cup leaves town it’s likely that a lot of people will depart Russia with great memories and a changed view of the country. Russia is putting on its best, most smiling face for the month: people are excited to welcome the tournament and the fans, and so far at least that is leading to overwhelmingly positive vibes.
Ten things we have learned from the first round of World Cup games

The doom-mongers warned that Russia would be dire and dangerous — but the welcome for England fans has been heartfelt and humbling

David Walsh | The Times & The Sunday Times

EXPECTATIONS VS REALITY IN RUSSIA | The Truth About the World Cup 2018

"I absolutely LOVE Russia and always will..."


"During the early 1930s every non-apparatchik in the USSR was hungry, and the peasants were starving in their millions. The zeks [prisoners] of the gulag, from 1918 to 1956, were always somewhere in between.

The mature gulag ran on food and the deprivation of food. Illuminatingly, the history of Communism keeps bringing us back to this: the scarcity or absence of food.

[In] his natural indifference to all human suffering Frenkel was an excellent Bolshevik. It was he who advised Stalin to run the gulag on the steady deprivation of food.

Again they used norms and quotas:

for the full norm: 700 grams of bread, plus soup and buckwheat

for those not attaining the norm: 400 grams of bread, plus soup

The ‘full norm' was near-unachievable (sometimes more than 200 times higher than the Tsarist equivalent). A socialist-realist superman might manage it, for a time. But you were not meant to manage it. As the zek increasingly fell further behind the norm, he weakened further too, and his ration would soon be demoted to ‘punitive' (300 grams). As for the rations, Conquest cites those of the Japanese POW camps on the River Kwai: ‘There, prisoners got a daily ration norm of 700 grams of rice, 600 of vegetables, 100 of meat, 20 of sugar, 20 of salt, and 5 of oil…'; all these items were, of course, great rarities and delicacies in the archipelago. Solzhenitsyn describes a seven-ounce loaf (218 grams): ‘sticky as clay, a piece little bigger than a matchbox…'" Martin Amis, "Koba The Dread"


Your judgment remains in doubt.

Don't try to cover your ignorance about Russia with Wikipedia/Google quotes. Besides, the title of your thread mentions Russia, not Soviet Union. Russia has nothing to do with either communism or socialism. You are stuck in the last century.

1. I didn't use Wikipedia....I used Martin Amis' book.

2. Russia is the remnant of the USSR, dunce.

3. Clearly I've embarrassed you as to your lack of knowledge.....
Excellent.....you can refer to me as Karma.

Even if you repeat lies about Russia 100 times they won't turn into the truth or make Russia bad in the reality. And you Americans are strongly believing those lies Deep State wants you to believe. Why? Because the only country in the world (regardless if you like it or not) which can help you to drain your Swamp and to defeat Deep State is Russia. And every time you spread Deep State's "information" about Russia you are helping Deep State and playing against your country and yourself.

Goebbels:
"The bigger the lie, the more it will be believed."

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. “

“The Americans and English fall easily for this kind of propaganda. “
Joseph Goebbels - Wikiquote

Demonization of Putin is one of the biggest threats to American national security,Stephen Cohen.

So, whom do you really want to help: your country or Deep State? If you want to help your own country then Russia should be your best ally.

"Even if you repeat lies about Russia...."



You're claiming that this isn't a fact?????????


"During the early 1930s every non-apparatchik in the USSR was hungry, and the peasants were starving in their millions. The zeks [prisoners] of the gulag, from 1918 to 1956, were always somewhere in between.

The mature gulag ran on food and the deprivation of food. Illuminatingly, the history of Communism keeps bringing us back to this: the scarcity or absence of food.

[In] his natural indifference to all human suffering Frenkel was an excellent Bolshevik. It was he who advised Stalin to run the gulag on the steady deprivation of food.

Again they used norms and quotas:

for the full norm: 700 grams of bread, plus soup and buckwheat

for those not attaining the norm: 400 grams of bread, plus soup

The ‘full norm' was near-unachievable (sometimes more than 200 times higher than the Tsarist equivalent). A socialist-realist superman might manage it, for a time. But you were not meant to manage it. As the zek increasingly fell further behind the norm, he weakened further too, and his ration would soon be demoted to ‘punitive' (300 grams). As for the rations, Conquest cites those of the Japanese POW camps on the River Kwai: ‘There, prisoners got a daily ration norm of 700 grams of rice, 600 of vegetables, 100 of meat, 20 of sugar, 20 of salt, and 5 of oil…'; all these items were, of course, great rarities and delicacies in the archipelago. Solzhenitsyn describes a seven-ounce loaf (218 grams): ‘sticky as clay, a piece little bigger than a matchbox…'" Martin Amis, "Koba The Dread"



How about this, you dolt?

Robert C. Tucker, Sovietologist historian, known best as a biographer of Stalin, wrote: "Nowhere [during the 'Great Purge'] were victims subjected to more atrocious treatment than in Georgia."
"Stalin in Power: The Revolution from Above, 1928-1941," by Robert C. Tucker, p. 488.



a. Mamia Oreakhelashvili " After the Sovietization of Georgia, Orakhelashvili served as chairman of the Georgian Revkom and secretary of the Central Committee of the Georgian Communist Party. He later became deputy chairman of the Georgian Council of People’s Commissars ..."
Mamia Orakhelashvili - Wikipedia

During the 'great terror purges' of the late 1930s, 425 of the 644 members of the Georgian party congress were put to death.

Oreakhelashvili had his eyes put out and his eardrums perforated while his wife was forced to watch.

Stalin......Tender mercies.




b. Then there was party chief Nestor Lakoba, who had died before the purges, and buried with honor. They had his body dug up and burned, and is wife tortured to death in the presence of his 14-year-old son. The son was sent to the gulag....than brought back and shot.


c. Buda Mdivani was a veteran Georgian Bolshevik and Soviet government official energetically involved in the Russian Revolutions and the Civil War, who led Georgian Communist opposition to Joseph Stalin's centralizing policy....he was tortured for three months, and then shot....his wife, four sons, an daughter, were then shot as well.



You've really identified yourself as quite an imbecile.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nobody

Proving, once again, that you can neither read, nor comprehend.
Government school grad?

LOL !!!!
This OP is another testament to Russian trollers who only know how to throw a LOT of CRAP from a Putin ass-loving database and think that will impress their bosses.

Notice how they just keep on coming with that prepared propaganda shit, then they boast how smart they are!
HA HA HA HAhahaha ...
Yeah, Stratford, join this troll thread ... LOL
.

Everything I post is 100% true, accurate and correct....

...you've testified to same by being unable to find any that isn't so.

 

[Stratford57]

I absolutely LOVE Russia and always will and I'm from Ukraine. And millions of foreign fans who came to Russia this summer for World Cup fell in love with Russia and were so surprised how the reality was different to what their Media was telling them. I would recommend OP to visit modern Russia (which is neither communist nor socialist!) before starting the threads like this. May be following links will help you to learn some truth about real Russia, not an alleged one.

Russia’s picturesque cities, warm people and delicious food, BBC Sport pundit Chris Sutton tweeted in a heartfelt farewell to the tournament’s host country. He even went so far as to note that the host nation had been unfairly maligned
Charmed: BBC Sport pundit tweets out farewell to ‘beautiful, friendly’ Russia

TheGuardian:Message to the English: come to Russia and feel the love
Message to the English: come to Russia and feel the love | Tom Rosenthal

TheGuardian: “The warmth of the welcome here has been absolutely outstanding. All the fans have commented on that and Volgograd seems delighted to welcome everybody,” said Lindsay Skoll, the deputy British ambassador to Russia.
England fans enjoy stay in Volgograd with no repeat of Marseille violence

TheGuardian:
When the World Cup leaves town it’s likely that a lot of people will depart Russia with great memories and a changed view of the country. Russia is putting on its best, most smiling face for the month: people are excited to welcome the tournament and the fans, and so far at least that is leading to overwhelmingly positive vibes.
Ten things we have learned from the first round of World Cup games

The doom-mongers warned that Russia would be dire and dangerous — but the welcome for England fans has been heartfelt and humbling

David Walsh | The Times & The Sunday Times

EXPECTATIONS VS REALITY IN RUSSIA | The Truth About the World Cup 2018

"I absolutely LOVE Russia and always will..."


"During the early 1930s every non-apparatchik in the USSR was hungry, and the peasants were starving in their millions. The zeks [prisoners] of the gulag, from 1918 to 1956, were always somewhere in between.

The mature gulag ran on food and the deprivation of food. Illuminatingly, the history of Communism keeps bringing us back to this: the scarcity or absence of food.

[In] his natural indifference to all human suffering Frenkel was an excellent Bolshevik. It was he who advised Stalin to run the gulag on the steady deprivation of food.

Again they used norms and quotas:

for the full norm: 700 grams of bread, plus soup and buckwheat

for those not attaining the norm: 400 grams of bread, plus soup

The ‘full norm' was near-unachievable (sometimes more than 200 times higher than the Tsarist equivalent). A socialist-realist superman might manage it, for a time. But you were not meant to manage it. As the zek increasingly fell further behind the norm, he weakened further too, and his ration would soon be demoted to ‘punitive' (300 grams). As for the rations, Conquest cites those of the Japanese POW camps on the River Kwai: ‘There, prisoners got a daily ration norm of 700 grams of rice, 600 of vegetables, 100 of meat, 20 of sugar, 20 of salt, and 5 of oil…'; all these items were, of course, great rarities and delicacies in the archipelago. Solzhenitsyn describes a seven-ounce loaf (218 grams): ‘sticky as clay, a piece little bigger than a matchbox…'" Martin Amis, "Koba The Dread"


Your judgment remains in doubt.

Don't try to cover your ignorance about Russia with Wikipedia/Google quotes. Besides, the title of your thread mentions Russia, not Soviet Union. Russia has nothing to do with either communism or socialism. You are stuck in the last century.

1. I didn't use Wikipedia....I used Martin Amis' book.

2. Russia is the remnant of the USSR, dunce.

3. Clearly I've embarrassed you as to your lack of knowledge.....
Excellent.....you can refer to me as Karma.

Even if you repeat lies about Russia 100 times they won't turn into the truth or make Russia bad in the reality. And you Americans are strongly believing those lies Deep State wants you to believe. Why? Because the only country in the world (regardless if you like it or not) which can help you to drain your Swamp and to defeat Deep State is Russia. And every time you spread Deep State's "information" about Russia you are helping Deep State and playing against your country and yourself.

Goebbels:
"The bigger the lie, the more it will be believed."

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. “

“The Americans and English fall easily for this kind of propaganda. “
Joseph Goebbels - Wikiquote

Demonization of Putin is one of the biggest threats to American national security,Stephen Cohen.

So, whom do you really want to help: your country or Deep State? If you want to help your own country then Russia should be your best ally.

"Even if you repeat lies about Russia...."



You're claiming that this isn't a fact?????????


"During the early 1930s every non-apparatchik in the USSR was hungry, and the peasants were starving in their millions. The zeks [prisoners] of the gulag, from 1918 to 1956, were always somewhere in between.

The mature gulag ran on food and the deprivation of food. Illuminatingly, the history of Communism keeps bringing us back to this: the scarcity or absence of food.

[In] his natural indifference to all human suffering Frenkel was an excellent Bolshevik. It was he who advised Stalin to run the gulag on the steady deprivation of food.

Again they used norms and quotas:

for the full norm: 700 grams of bread, plus soup and buckwheat

for those not attaining the norm: 400 grams of bread, plus soup

The ‘full norm' was near-unachievable (sometimes more than 200 times higher than the Tsarist equivalent). A socialist-realist superman might manage it, for a time. But you were not meant to manage it. As the zek increasingly fell further behind the norm, he weakened further too, and his ration would soon be demoted to ‘punitive' (300 grams). As for the rations, Conquest cites those of the Japanese POW camps on the River Kwai: ‘There, prisoners got a daily ration norm of 700 grams of rice, 600 of vegetables, 100 of meat, 20 of sugar, 20 of salt, and 5 of oil…'; all these items were, of course, great rarities and delicacies in the archipelago. Solzhenitsyn describes a seven-ounce loaf (218 grams): ‘sticky as clay, a piece little bigger than a matchbox…'" Martin Amis, "Koba The Dread"



How about this, you dolt?

Robert C. Tucker, Sovietologist historian, known best as a biographer of Stalin, wrote: "Nowhere [during the 'Great Purge'] were victims subjected to more atrocious treatment than in Georgia."
"Stalin in Power: The Revolution from Above, 1928-1941," by Robert C. Tucker, p. 488.



a. Mamia Oreakhelashvili " After the Sovietization of Georgia, Orakhelashvili served as chairman of the Georgian Revkom and secretary of the Central Committee of the Georgian Communist Party. He later became deputy chairman of the Georgian Council of People’s Commissars ..."
Mamia Orakhelashvili - Wikipedia

During the 'great terror purges' of the late 1930s, 425 of the 644 members of the Georgian party congress were put to death.

Oreakhelashvili had his eyes put out and his eardrums perforated while his wife was forced to watch.

Stalin......Tender mercies.




b. Then there was party chief Nestor Lakoba, who had died before the purges, and buried with honor. They had his body dug up and burned, and is wife tortured to death in the presence of his 14-year-old son. The son was sent to the gulag....than brought back and shot.


c. Buda Mdivani was a veteran Georgian Bolshevik and Soviet government official energetically involved in the Russian Revolutions and the Civil War, who led Georgian Communist opposition to Joseph Stalin's centralizing policy....he was tortured for three months, and then shot....his wife, four sons, an daughter, were then shot as well.



You've really identified yourself as quite an imbecile.

I can see you prefer to be stuck in the last century and to substitute modern Russia with Soviet Union. That doesn't make any sense at all.

Anyway, Russia is your ONE AND ONLY ally if you want to drain your Swamp. Your president understands it very well and you seem to be so stubborn that you prefer to help Deep State with your artificially created hate to Russia rather than to help your own President (who is a brave man and a real patriot for change).

 

[PoliticalChic]

"I absolutely LOVE Russia and always will..."


"During the early 1930s every non-apparatchik in the USSR was hungry, and the peasants were starving in their millions. The zeks [prisoners] of the gulag, from 1918 to 1956, were always somewhere in between.

The mature gulag ran on food and the deprivation of food. Illuminatingly, the history of Communism keeps bringing us back to this: the scarcity or absence of food.

[In] his natural indifference to all human suffering Frenkel was an excellent Bolshevik. It was he who advised Stalin to run the gulag on the steady deprivation of food.

Again they used norms and quotas:

for the full norm: 700 grams of bread, plus soup and buckwheat

for those not attaining the norm: 400 grams of bread, plus soup

The ‘full norm' was near-unachievable (sometimes more than 200 times higher than the Tsarist equivalent). A socialist-realist superman might manage it, for a time. But you were not meant to manage it. As the zek increasingly fell further behind the norm, he weakened further too, and his ration would soon be demoted to ‘punitive' (300 grams). As for the rations, Conquest cites those of the Japanese POW camps on the River Kwai: ‘There, prisoners got a daily ration norm of 700 grams of rice, 600 of vegetables, 100 of meat, 20 of sugar, 20 of salt, and 5 of oil…'; all these items were, of course, great rarities and delicacies in the archipelago. Solzhenitsyn describes a seven-ounce loaf (218 grams): ‘sticky as clay, a piece little bigger than a matchbox…'" Martin Amis, "Koba The Dread"


Your judgment remains in doubt.

Don't try to cover your ignorance about Russia with Wikipedia/Google quotes. Besides, the title of your thread mentions Russia, not Soviet Union. Russia has nothing to do with either communism or socialism. You are stuck in the last century.

1. I didn't use Wikipedia....I used Martin Amis' book.

2. Russia is the remnant of the USSR, dunce.

3. Clearly I've embarrassed you as to your lack of knowledge.....
Excellent.....you can refer to me as Karma.

Even if you repeat lies about Russia 100 times they won't turn into the truth or make Russia bad in the reality. And you Americans are strongly believing those lies Deep State wants you to believe. Why? Because the only country in the world (regardless if you like it or not) which can help you to drain your Swamp and to defeat Deep State is Russia. And every time you spread Deep State's "information" about Russia you are helping Deep State and playing against your country and yourself.

Goebbels:
"The bigger the lie, the more it will be believed."

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. “

“The Americans and English fall easily for this kind of propaganda. “
Joseph Goebbels - Wikiquote

Demonization of Putin is one of the biggest threats to American national security,Stephen Cohen.

So, whom do you really want to help: your country or Deep State? If you want to help your own country then Russia should be your best ally.

"Even if you repeat lies about Russia...."



You're claiming that this isn't a fact?????????


"During the early 1930s every non-apparatchik in the USSR was hungry, and the peasants were starving in their millions. The zeks [prisoners] of the gulag, from 1918 to 1956, were always somewhere in between.

The mature gulag ran on food and the deprivation of food. Illuminatingly, the history of Communism keeps bringing us back to this: the scarcity or absence of food.

[In] his natural indifference to all human suffering Frenkel was an excellent Bolshevik. It was he who advised Stalin to run the gulag on the steady deprivation of food.

Again they used norms and quotas:

for the full norm: 700 grams of bread, plus soup and buckwheat

for those not attaining the norm: 400 grams of bread, plus soup

The ‘full norm' was near-unachievable (sometimes more than 200 times higher than the Tsarist equivalent). A socialist-realist superman might manage it, for a time. But you were not meant to manage it. As the zek increasingly fell further behind the norm, he weakened further too, and his ration would soon be demoted to ‘punitive' (300 grams). As for the rations, Conquest cites those of the Japanese POW camps on the River Kwai: ‘There, prisoners got a daily ration norm of 700 grams of rice, 600 of vegetables, 100 of meat, 20 of sugar, 20 of salt, and 5 of oil…'; all these items were, of course, great rarities and delicacies in the archipelago. Solzhenitsyn describes a seven-ounce loaf (218 grams): ‘sticky as clay, a piece little bigger than a matchbox…'" Martin Amis, "Koba The Dread"



How about this, you dolt?

Robert C. Tucker, Sovietologist historian, known best as a biographer of Stalin, wrote: "Nowhere [during the 'Great Purge'] were victims subjected to more atrocious treatment than in Georgia."
"Stalin in Power: The Revolution from Above, 1928-1941," by Robert C. Tucker, p. 488.



a. Mamia Oreakhelashvili " After the Sovietization of Georgia, Orakhelashvili served as chairman of the Georgian Revkom and secretary of the Central Committee of the Georgian Communist Party. He later became deputy chairman of the Georgian Council of People’s Commissars ..."
Mamia Orakhelashvili - Wikipedia

During the 'great terror purges' of the late 1930s, 425 of the 644 members of the Georgian party congress were put to death.

Oreakhelashvili had his eyes put out and his eardrums perforated while his wife was forced to watch.

Stalin......Tender mercies.




b. Then there was party chief Nestor Lakoba, who had died before the purges, and buried with honor. They had his body dug up and burned, and is wife tortured to death in the presence of his 14-year-old son. The son was sent to the gulag....than brought back and shot.


c. Buda Mdivani was a veteran Georgian Bolshevik and Soviet government official energetically involved in the Russian Revolutions and the Civil War, who led Georgian Communist opposition to Joseph Stalin's centralizing policy....he was tortured for three months, and then shot....his wife, four sons, an daughter, were then shot as well.



You've really identified yourself as quite an imbecile.

I can see you prefer to be stuck in the last century and to substitute modern Russia with Soviet Union. That doesn't make any sense at all.

Anyway, Russia is your ONE AND ONLY ally if you want to drain your Swamp. Your president understands it very well and you seem to be so stubborn that you prefer to help Deep State with your artificially created hate to Russia rather than to help your own President (who is a brave man and a real patriot for change).

You're not serious.....are you?????



Alexander Litvinenko at University College Hospital
Alexander Litvinenko was a former officer of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and KGB, who fled from court prosecution in Russia and received political asylum in the United Kingdom.

On 1 November 2006, Litvinenko suddenly fell ill and was hospitalized. He died three weeks later, becoming the first confirmed victim of lethal polonium-210-induced acute radiation syndrome.[1] Litvinenko's allegations about the misdeeds of the FSB and his public deathbed accusations that Russian president Vladimir Putin was behind his unusual malady resulted in worldwide media coverage.[2]

Subsequent investigations by British authorities into the circumstances of Litvinenko's death led to serious diplomatic difficulties between the British and Russian governments.
Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko - Wikipedia

 

[playtime]

 

[Stratford57]

Don't try to cover your ignorance about Russia with Wikipedia/Google quotes. Besides, the title of your thread mentions Russia, not Soviet Union. Russia has nothing to do with either communism or socialism. You are stuck in the last century.

1. I didn't use Wikipedia....I used Martin Amis' book.

2. Russia is the remnant of the USSR, dunce.

3. Clearly I've embarrassed you as to your lack of knowledge.....
Excellent.....you can refer to me as Karma.

Even if you repeat lies about Russia 100 times they won't turn into the truth or make Russia bad in the reality. And you Americans are strongly believing those lies Deep State wants you to believe. Why? Because the only country in the world (regardless if you like it or not) which can help you to drain your Swamp and to defeat Deep State is Russia. And every time you spread Deep State's "information" about Russia you are helping Deep State and playing against your country and yourself.

Goebbels:
"The bigger the lie, the more it will be believed."

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. “

“The Americans and English fall easily for this kind of propaganda. “
Joseph Goebbels - Wikiquote

Demonization of Putin is one of the biggest threats to American national security,Stephen Cohen.

So, whom do you really want to help: your country or Deep State? If you want to help your own country then Russia should be your best ally.

"Even if you repeat lies about Russia...."



You're claiming that this isn't a fact?????????


"During the early 1930s every non-apparatchik in the USSR was hungry, and the peasants were starving in their millions. The zeks [prisoners] of the gulag, from 1918 to 1956, were always somewhere in between.

The mature gulag ran on food and the deprivation of food. Illuminatingly, the history of Communism keeps bringing us back to this: the scarcity or absence of food.

[In] his natural indifference to all human suffering Frenkel was an excellent Bolshevik. It was he who advised Stalin to run the gulag on the steady deprivation of food.

Again they used norms and quotas:

for the full norm: 700 grams of bread, plus soup and buckwheat

for those not attaining the norm: 400 grams of bread, plus soup

The ‘full norm' was near-unachievable (sometimes more than 200 times higher than the Tsarist equivalent). A socialist-realist superman might manage it, for a time. But you were not meant to manage it. As the zek increasingly fell further behind the norm, he weakened further too, and his ration would soon be demoted to ‘punitive' (300 grams). As for the rations, Conquest cites those of the Japanese POW camps on the River Kwai: ‘There, prisoners got a daily ration norm of 700 grams of rice, 600 of vegetables, 100 of meat, 20 of sugar, 20 of salt, and 5 of oil…'; all these items were, of course, great rarities and delicacies in the archipelago. Solzhenitsyn describes a seven-ounce loaf (218 grams): ‘sticky as clay, a piece little bigger than a matchbox…'" Martin Amis, "Koba The Dread"



How about this, you dolt?

Robert C. Tucker, Sovietologist historian, known best as a biographer of Stalin, wrote: "Nowhere [during the 'Great Purge'] were victims subjected to more atrocious treatment than in Georgia."
"Stalin in Power: The Revolution from Above, 1928-1941," by Robert C. Tucker, p. 488.



a. Mamia Oreakhelashvili " After the Sovietization of Georgia, Orakhelashvili served as chairman of the Georgian Revkom and secretary of the Central Committee of the Georgian Communist Party. He later became deputy chairman of the Georgian Council of People’s Commissars ..."
Mamia Orakhelashvili - Wikipedia

During the 'great terror purges' of the late 1930s, 425 of the 644 members of the Georgian party congress were put to death.

Oreakhelashvili had his eyes put out and his eardrums perforated while his wife was forced to watch.

Stalin......Tender mercies.




b. Then there was party chief Nestor Lakoba, who had died before the purges, and buried with honor. They had his body dug up and burned, and is wife tortured to death in the presence of his 14-year-old son. The son was sent to the gulag....than brought back and shot.


c. Buda Mdivani was a veteran Georgian Bolshevik and Soviet government official energetically involved in the Russian Revolutions and the Civil War, who led Georgian Communist opposition to Joseph Stalin's centralizing policy....he was tortured for three months, and then shot....his wife, four sons, an daughter, were then shot as well.



You've really identified yourself as quite an imbecile.

I can see you prefer to be stuck in the last century and to substitute modern Russia with Soviet Union. That doesn't make any sense at all.

Anyway, Russia is your ONE AND ONLY ally if you want to drain your Swamp. Your president understands it very well and you seem to be so stubborn that you prefer to help Deep State with your artificially created hate to Russia rather than to help your own President (who is a brave man and a real patriot for change).

You're not serious.....are you?????



Alexander Litvinenko at University College Hospital
Alexander Litvinenko was a former officer of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and KGB, who fled from court prosecution in Russia and received political asylum in the United Kingdom.

On 1 November 2006, Litvinenko suddenly fell ill and was hospitalized. He died three weeks later, becoming the first confirmed victim of lethal polonium-210-induced acute radiation syndrome.[1] Litvinenko's allegations about the misdeeds of the FSB and his public deathbed accusations that Russian president Vladimir Putin was behind his unusual malady resulted in worldwide media coverage.[2]

Subsequent investigations by British authorities into the circumstances of Litvinenko's death led to serious diplomatic difficulties between the British and Russian governments.
Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko - Wikipedia

Yes, I'm serious and just about tired of your ignorance. Your Media (the majority of it has been controlled by War Party) keeps spreading a lot of lies about Russia and you seem to be a great example of their success.

Rand Paul:
"I think people have gotten over top on this and lost the big picture," Paul said. "The big picture is that we should be engaged with Russia. We should have conversations with Russia. We have serious conflicts in various parts of the globe. It would be a mistake not to have open lines of communication with them."
Sen. Rand Paul: "Trump Derangement Syndrome" Has Gone Over The Top And People Have Lost The Big Picture

The American Conservative, July 17 By PATRICK J. BUCHANAN
Trump thereby repudiated the records and agendas of the neocons and their liberal interventionist allies, as well as the archipelago of War Party think tanks beavering away inside the Beltway.
Trump Calls Off Cold War II

 

[McFury]

Alexander Litvinenko at University College Hospital
Alexander Litvinenko was a former officer of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and KGB, who fled from court prosecution in Russia and received political asylum in the United Kingdom.

On 1 November 2006, Litvinenko suddenly fell ill and was hospitalized. He died three weeks later, becoming the first confirmed victim of lethal polonium-210-induced acute radiation syndrome.[1] Litvinenko's allegations about the misdeeds of the FSB and his public deathbed accusations that Russian president Vladimir Putin was behind his unusual malady resulted in worldwide media coverage.[2]

Subsequent investigations by British authorities into the circumstances of Litvinenko's death led to serious diplomatic difficulties between the British and Russian governments.
Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko - Wikipedia[/QUOTE]

 

[Stratford57]

Alexander Litvinenko at University College Hospital
Alexander Litvinenko was a former officer of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and KGB, who fled from court prosecution in Russia and received political asylum in the United Kingdom.

On 1 November 2006, Litvinenko suddenly fell ill and was hospitalized. He died three weeks later, becoming the first confirmed victim of lethal polonium-210-induced acute radiation syndrome.[1] Litvinenko's allegations about the misdeeds of the FSB and his public deathbed accusations that Russian president Vladimir Putin was behind his unusual malady resulted in worldwide media coverage.[2]

Subsequent investigations by British authorities into the circumstances of Litvinenko's death led to serious diplomatic difficulties between the British and Russian governments.
Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko - Wikipedia

And all the accusations were "possibly, may be, highly likely, we think" and sh*t like that but no real evidence. Same sh*t about Malaysian Boeing, Skripals' case and many others. People, may be it's time to ask for the evidence before believing and spreading Deep State's fake stories about Russia?

 

[McFury]

Alexander Litvinenko at University College Hospital
Alexander Litvinenko was a former officer of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and KGB, who fled from court prosecution in Russia and received political asylum in the United Kingdom.

On 1 November 2006, Litvinenko suddenly fell ill and was hospitalized. He died three weeks later, becoming the first confirmed victim of lethal polonium-210-induced acute radiation syndrome.[1] Litvinenko's allegations about the misdeeds of the FSB and his public deathbed accusations that Russian president Vladimir Putin was behind his unusual malady resulted in worldwide media coverage.[2]

Subsequent investigations by British authorities into the circumstances of Litvinenko's death led to serious diplomatic difficulties between the British and Russian governments.
Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko - Wikipedia

[/QUOTE]

Putin was in charge of KGB before he became president of Russia.
He is a trained assassin and trained to be spy.
Trump is swimming in a dangerous ocean infested by sharks.
he better know how to swim.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The opening statement has nothing to do with the OP title.

In fact, the neo-fascist alt right is in love with Modern Russia today.

Its your opinion. Not a fact

Fact is fact = the neo-fascist alt right loves Modern Russia. Watch their posters here, watch Putin. Love, love, love.

 

[MarcATL]

All USMB participants ...
Notice how these Russian trollers NEVER say anything negative about their master, Putin.
They don’t dare!
Putin critics lose their jobs. Some get killed.

Indeed sir, they aren't fooling anyone but themselves.

BTW, here's a pic of "the American" PoliticalChic and her "hubby"....

See how patriotic she looks? She knows where her bread is buttered. She's a real tovarishch to her country.

 

[MarcATL]

Putin was in charge of KGB before he became president of Russia.
He is a trained assassin and trained to be spy.
Trump is swimming in a dangerous ocean infested by sharks.
he better know how to swim.

Trump has already drowned, he just doesn't know it as yet.

 

[PoliticalChic]

All USMB participants ...
Notice how these Russian trollers NEVER say anything negative about their master, Putin.
They don’t dare!
Putin critics lose their jobs. Some get killed.

Indeed sir, they aren't fooling anyone but themselves.

BTW, here's a pic of "the American" PoliticalChic and her "hubby"....

See how patriotic she looks? She knows where her bread is buttered. She's a real tovarishch to her country.

Time to check as to which of us is actually a patriot, a real American????


Watch me leave you speechless:


a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


or


b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


My support goes to a.
How about you?

 

[MarcATL]

Time to check as to which of us is actually a patriot, a real American????


Watch me leave you speechless:


a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


or


b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


My support goes to a.
How about you?

Surely Putin has taught you better tricks than this, surely.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Time to check as to which of us is actually a patriot, a real American????


Watch me leave you speechless:


a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


or


b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


My support goes to a.
How about you?

Surely Putin has taught you better tricks than this, surely.

You, declining to answer, is the answer.

As a Leftist, you support the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.
The designs of the Democrats and the Bolsheviks.


Effectively, you've proven the premise of this thread.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Those of us who have an understanding of the political scene know this truth:

The Left is always guilty of that which they try to blame on the other side.
Hence....the claim that the Republicans are in league with Russia.





10. “…example after example of Democrats getting cozy with the Kremlin. The Democratic Party had no problem with Russia until recently.

The left loves Russia, and they love Russian money. Their temper tantrum is over Trump winning the election. Liberal policies get slammed by conservative ones every time. Trump is calling out the media for their lies.

…it is quite hypocritical to see how Democrats are attacking Russia now when they have been bunkmates with the Kremlin for decades.” Since When Do Democrats Hate Russia?






Since Franklin Roosevelt made his affection for the psychopath he called 'Uncle Joe,' known, the Democrats have worked tirelessly to make common cause with Russia.


Democrats singing the communist ‘Internationale’ in 2017:

 

[PoliticalChic]

11. Not with the Republicans, or Donald Trump, but a very real collusion has existed for a century between the Democrats and the Bolsheviks.



"Russia has sought to undermine the United States for most of the last century; this is a historical fact.
Starting in the 1920s, the Soviet Comintern approved a fund for propaganda designed to lure disaffected African-Americans from the party of Abraham Lincoln to the party of Vladimir Lenin. In cooperation with Marxist revolutionaries like Lovett Fort-Whiteman and Claude McKay, Kremlin officials sought to literally divide America by carving out a Soviet-controlled “Negro Republic” in the Southern United States.

During World War II, the United States entered a “Strange Alliance” with the world’s most powerful Communist state, the Soviet Union. President Franklin Roosevelt released Communist Party USA leader Earl Browder from prison in 1943 to promote “national unity” between American Communists and the general public.



“Earl Browder concluded that the American-Soviet alliance of World War II would continue after the defeat of Nazi Germany,” wrote Harvey Klehr for the New York Times.
“For this reason, in 1944, he boldly engineered the transformation of the CPUSA (Communist Party, USA) into a pressure group designed to work within the Democratic Party”
The REAL Russia Scandal




Franklin Roosevelt worked tirelessly to make certain that Soviet Communism survived the world war, and had a cozy home in the United States.
It has just such a home in the Democrat Party, whose aims are the very same as the Communist Party.




Today, the joke…is that Trump is aligned with the Russians.

Takes a government school grad to believe that.

 

[impuretrash]

Some really good metal bands in russia and ukraine so...yeah I like Russia.