Who pays tariffs?

[jc456]

There is your inflation right there (in some cases).

what is the inflation right there?

 

[jc456]

Boy you guys pick a loser .. genera Stanley McCrystal just posted an article saying he can’t vote for trump that he is casting his vote for Kamala Harris … seems these republicans themselves who has worked with the guy says he’s the worst thing that could happen to this country if he ‘s elected…

who gives a flying fk? Why is he important? Who do you supposed follows what he does?

 

[Marchimedes]

Yes, in the short run it is American consumers paying slightly more for the American made product.

No, they will always pay more.

My bad, I should have typed more words but then I'm always gettin yelled at for going on and on.

My self quote there should have read...

In the short run it is American consumers paying slightly more for the American made product given that The Yellow Menace products cost more cause of the tariffs but then as America retools and their products sell volume, volume, volume happens, price comes down along with the normal American world leading productivity/efficiency gains (I'm more betterer at my job than I was last month) so it all snowballs for America. Given all that, (if the liberals just fu(kin leave the American economy alone) this is all economics 101.

Is that more betterer, Mr. Eagle?

Products made in the US will never be as inexpensive to make in the US as they are in places like China or Vietnam or India.

Agreed.

I guess Americans needs consider basic morality and question if they want to buy a $1 shirt made by children in an oversees sweat shop or pay $5 for the same friggin shirt made by Americans. One needs consider the whole free/fair trade debate. Maybe America has free/fair trade with Canada, eh?

 

[candycorn]

Gouging...........

Well, can you explain why Japanese cars (for one example) are not 100% more expensive than American cars? Why has the non-tarried cars out of Detroit, KC, Dallas, and South Carolina stayed more expensive than cars that are tarried 100% of their value?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

In the short run it is American consumers paying slightly more for the American made product given that The Yellow Menace products cost more cause of the tariffs but then as America retools and their products sell volume, volume, volume happens, price comes down along with the normal American world leading productivity/efficiency gains (I'm more betterer at my job than I was last month) so it all snowballs for America. Given all that, (if the liberals just fu(kin leave the American economy alone) this is all economics 101.

Is that more betterer, Mr. Eagle?

What time frame do you see this taking place over?

At this point in time there are not enough American made products to replace all the imported one for most items. Thus as the tariffs drive up the cost of imported goods and more people attempt to buy American goods, there will not be enough to meet demand, pushing up prices even further to where the imported goods will again be cheaper, perhaps needing even higher tariffs.

I do agree there could be a snowball.

I guess Americans needs consider basic morality and question if they want to buy a $1 shirt made by children in an oversees sweat shop or pay $5 for the same friggin shirt made by Americans. One needs consider the whole free/fair trade debate. Maybe America has free/fair trade with Canada, eh?

I was not really thinking so much about t-shirts as I was vehicles and graphics cards and home appliances.

 

[billyerock123]

He wasn’t when he was before so you are spreading disinformation, you should be arrested

seems you are wrong... Here is the website bellow ...read it and weep There are more if you like losers... looks like there wasn't disinformation about the Pennsylvania teamsters picking Harris too ... don't ya just hate it when I'm right... you should be arrested fot being stupid and not knowing whats happening to your fearless leaders Donald and Natasha his rusky wife...

McChrystal backs Harris for president in New York Times op-ed​

MSN

Pa Teamsters counters national leadership, endorses Kamala Harris.

The Pennsylvania Conference of Teamsters endorses Kamala Harris despite national leadership declining to endorse either candidate.

news.yahoo.com

 

[billyerock123]

Well, can you explain why Japanese cars (for one example) are not 100% more expensive than American cars? Why has the non-tarried cars out of Detroit, KC, Dallas, and South Carolina stayed more expensive than cars that are tarried 100% of their value?

the other day I posted a picture of a ad the first one was a picture of a Honda Pilot 33,000 the second was a picture of a Ford Escort 47,000 so your question is spot on ...why are american cars 14,000 dollars more ???

 

[billyerock123]

who gives a flying fk? Why is he important? Who do you supposed follows what he does?

other republicans ... after all he served several presidents... maybe you should look him up before you show your stupidity first ... he is one more of the 250 generals, some who worked for Trump and some who worked for the bushes and Reagan ,,, you know other republicans who are saying trump is the worst thing the country could elect... telling Americans to vote for Kamala harris because they are. They are all Republicans... i know you maga idiots don't get it cause that would take smarts something you lack...

 

[Marchimedes]

What time frame do you see this taking place over?

What's all this then? A salient/apt question that continues the conversation?

Howz two(2) years sound?

At this point in time there are not enough American made products to replace all the imported one for most items.

Agreed.

Thus as the tariffs drive up the cost of imported goods and more people attempt to buy American goods, there will not be enough to meet demand, pushing up prices even further to where the imported goods will again be cheaper, perhaps needing even higher tariffs.

Then it is predominate upon American citizens to chill a fu(kin bit and for American product suppliers to curb their greed.

Yes, I am relying on patriotism and for Americans to get the long game.

I do agree there could be a snowball.

So maybe instant gratification Americans wait a bit and trust in American ingenuity to turn this round. Buy that $15 American toaster instead of the Yellow Menace $10 toaster. For now.

When the fu(k did America begin to doubt America?

I was not really thinking so much about t-shirts as I was vehicles and graphics cards and home appliances.

I don't know much about t-shirts...

but I, among other things are a mechanic, graphic cards, to me are for gamers which is fine and far as appliances goes, well, now you've hit a sore spot with me.

Just the other day my Dear Aunt bought a new stove/oven. New thing has a four(4) prong plug. Hot/hot/neutral/ground. Old was hot/hot/ground. Among other things I'm also a shade tree electrician. Now, a lazy fu(k can adapt a plug and "bond" the neutral/ground but for me that doesn't give a redundant path to ground if things go south. So I, the idiot nephew spent a day pulling 6/3 in the attic from new stove to the main panel. Because I care. I could go on for a paragraph explaining why that fu(kin matters. Just ask skews13. What's up, skews? Did you think I forgot you were a member here?

Nah, skews is a Master electrician, he's all licensed and I am not. Come on, skews, tell em all how I maybe could have just bonded my Dear Aunt's stove and been code and then tell them how what I did was the right thing.

Ah, skews ain't gonna do that cause I'm a conservative and he's a liberal. Also he hates me like poison from a different site.

Where was I? Ah, home appliances. I can install, destroy and repair most all home appliances and do so as part of my job. My job is building, installing, repairing and destroying stuff. Home appliances fear me. What was this post about? Ah, it was Mr. Eagle and tariffs.

Ah, American tariffs on the Yellow Menace good. That is all.

 

[Delldude]

looks like there wasn't disinformation about the Pennsylvania teamsters picking Harris too

Stupid is as stupid does................Pennsylvania Teamsters of the Pa union?

You need to remember, Teamsters Int'l polled its members nationwide and realized 60% supported Trump. These Pa members were also part of that polling.

 

[candycorn]

the other day I posted a picture of a ad the first one was a picture of a Honda Pilot 33,000 the second was a picture of a Ford Escort 47,000 so your question is spot on ...why are american cars 14,000 dollars more ???

I’m not sure what you’re talking about. I doubt you posted a Ford Escort for $47K...they don’t make them any more to the best of my knowledge.

As for your post, yeah...the price of foreign cars, furniture, toys, clothing, food, should be massively more expensive than their American made counterparts by now.

But they’re not. There are other solutions than price gouging--for example, if you’re talking about the importation of raw materials that make American goods...the prices will go up obviously. Which makes you wonder why those items are tariffed in the first place since it’s punishing American businesses. Another solution is that the mark-up has always been that high and we haven’t seen the Japanese cars “catch up” yet and have their price rise above the American cars for example. But almost across the board...from AirConditioners to Xylophones...the American goods continue to cost more.

It shows that tariffs are not making importers change their behavior.

 

[billyerock123]

Stupid is as stupid does................Pennsylvania Teamsters of the Pa union?

You need to remember, Teamsters Int'l polled its members nationwide and realized 60% supported Trump. These Pa members were also part of that polling.

you are right stupid is as stupid does .'' of the states Harris needs is Pennsylvania to win the election ... the teamsters in Pennsylvania are 35,000 voters morons ... you better get yourself some taps on those shoes you are wearing cause all that tap dancing you are doing is going to wear a hole in them

now don't start spinning those shoes of yours news flash Almost All local Teamsters unions and joint councils representing approximately 1 million Teamster-affiliated workers have endorsed the vice president.... wow there goes that nationwide voting you were so hoping for ... right down the toilet .... she has Michigan Wisconsin Pennsylvania and according to the Arizonian... she's leading in the polls there too ...so there's 4 or the battleground states she needs 4 to win the election ...hold on to your big boy panties and hold back those alligator tears and practice say, president Harris, president Harris, president Harris, over and over... oh boy there's more somewhat bad news for you maga idiots ... Florida ,she's slowly gaining on trump ... he has a 1.1% lead on her ... gone in sixty seconds ... we can say ... with all of these republicans against trump all of these military generals against trump 251, all these house and senate members against trump... it will wake up at least 1.2 percent of the voters in Florida don't you think

Trump

49.2%​

Harris

48.1%​

 

[billyerock123]

I’m not sure what you’re talking about. I doubt you posted a Ford Escort for $47K...they don’t make them any more to the best of my knowledge.

As for your post, yeah...the price of foreign cars, furniture, toys, clothing, food, should be massively more expensive than their American made counterparts by now.

But they’re not. There are other solutions than price gouging--for example, if you’re talking about the importation of raw materials that make American goods...the prices will go up obviously. Which makes you wonder why those items are tariffed in the first place since it’s punishing American businesses. Another solution is that the mark-up has always been that high and we haven’t seen the Japanese cars “catch up” yet and have their price rise above the American cars for example. But almost across the board...from AirConditioners to Xylophones...the American goods continue to cost more.

It shows that tariffs are not making importers change their behavior.

as I said I could remember for sure what car ... not a Ford guy don't like the look of their cars ...i buy a Honda... here you go a Ford Explorer which sells for 61810 and the Honda Pilot 37,000 that's 24,000 dollars more...I know clearly what tariffs are ... all tariffs are paid by the consumer period ...now finally the guy question to us posters was how come American cars cost more money and a poster came back and said American cars are cheaper ... that's what the whole post was about ...
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[billyerock123]

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[Delldude]

you are right stupid is as stupid does .'' of the states Harris needs is Pennsylvania to win the election ... the teamsters in Pennsylvania are 35,000 voters morons ... you better get yourself some taps on those shoes you are wearing cause all that tap dancing you are doing is going to wear a hole in them

now don't start spinning those shoes of yours news flash Almost All local Teamsters unions and joint councils representing approximately 1 million Teamster-affiliated workers have endorsed the vice president.... wow there goes that nationwide voting you were so hoping for ... right down the toilet .... she has Michigan Wisconsin Pennsylvania and according to the Arizonian... she's leading in the polls there too ...so there's 4 or the battleground states she needs 4 to win the election ...hold on to your big boy panties and hold back those alligator tears and practice say, president Harris, president Harris, president Harris, over and over... oh boy there's more somewhat bad news for you maga idiots ... Florida ,she's slowly gaining on trump ... he has a 1.1% lead on her ... gone in sixty seconds ... we can say ... with all of these republicans against trump all of these military generals against trump 251, all these house and senate members against trump... it will wake up at least 1.2 percent of the voters in Florida don't you think

Trump

49.2%​

Harris

48.1%​

All your tap dancing won't negate the fact that 60% of that union unanimously support Trump...... across the fruited plains.

 

[Delldude]

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Anyone tell you Honda Accord is made in America?

Anyone tell you trucks have always carried a higher price tag due to their popularity?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Howz two(2) years sound?

I would say you are off by at least 8 years.

Then it is predominate upon American citizens to chill a fu(kin bit and for American product suppliers to curb their greed.

Yes, I am relying on patriotism and for Americans to get the long game.

Good luck with that is all I can say.

So maybe instant gratification Americans wait a bit and trust in American ingenuity to turn this round. Buy that $15 American toaster instead of the Yellow Menace $10 toaster. For now.

When the fu(k did America begin to doubt America?

Not sure when most people began to, I did so when too many people started putting party before country.

On a side note, you are allowed to type out the word fuck, you do not need to use the (.

I can also say I never really cared where something was made, I buy the best combination of quality and price.

The last few cars my family has owned...

Honda
Ford
Kia
Chevy
Jeep
Mazda

 

[jc456]

other republicans ... after all he served several presidents... maybe you should look him up before you show your stupidity first ... he is one more of the 250 generals, some who worked for Trump and some who worked for the bushes and Reagan ,,, you know other republicans who are saying trump is the worst thing the country could elect... telling Americans to vote for Kamala harris because they are. They are all Republicans... i know you maga idiots don't get it cause that would take smarts something you lack...

still, so what? why do post nothing burgers so frequently?

 

[jc456]

seems you are wrong... Here is the website bellow ...read it and weep There are more if you like losers... looks like there wasn't disinformation about the Pennsylvania teamsters picking Harris too ... don't ya just hate it when I'm right... you should be arrested fot being stupid and not knowing whats happening to your fearless leaders Donald and Natasha his rusky wife...

McChrystal backs Harris for president in New York Times op-ed​

MSN

Pa Teamsters counters national leadership, endorses Kamala Harris.

The Pennsylvania Conference of Teamsters endorses Kamala Harris despite national leadership declining to endorse either candidate.

news.yahoo.com

no, Trump was president in 2017 to 2020. Sorry!

 

[Delldude]

other republicans ... after all he served several presidents... maybe you should look him up before you show your stupidity first ... he is one more of the 250 generals, some who worked for Trump and some who worked for the bushes and Reagan ,,, you know other republicans who are saying trump is the worst thing the country could elect... telling Americans to vote for Kamala harris because they are. They are all Republicans... i know you maga idiots don't get it cause that would take smarts something you lack...

Thanks for providing info on the deep state gov't.