Who pays tariffs?

[Couchpotato]

well not a question for me, it's putting americans who lost their jobs for China and Mexico to get their jobs back. I don't care any other piece of it. Fk them using child labor.

But those jobs aren’t going from China to the US which is the point.

 

[jc456]

But those jobs aren’t going from China to the US which is the point.

Well that is the point. That takes time. It was being worked. Fk dude, creepy even claimed he’s gonna be making chips. Well, China owned chips. Is he lying?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Well, in part.

The facts are not your friend on this.

During Obama’s 8 successful years and supposed high taxes and over-regulation...the DJIA (comprised of companies that did a shitload of importing) climbed 149%. Corporate profits were (and still are) very high. So that solution would be different than what has worked in the past.

Sure, but most of our consumer goods are made in China. Corporate profits for oil companies are not the question. It’s cheaper to import items from overseas than it is to buy American made goods. If we stop the burdensome regulation, and over taxation, maybe we could get more made in America. It used to be a thing, and it was a good thing.

 

[jc456]

Sure, but most of our consumer goods are made in China. Corporate profits for oil companies are not the question. It’s cheaper to import items from overseas than it is to buy American made goods. If we stop the burdensome regulation, and over taxation, maybe we could get more made in America. It used to be a thing, and it was a good thing.

No, we equalize the field, you remember equality

 

[Marchimedes]

Yes, it is consumers who end up paying the tariffs! Does anyone disagree?

Yes, in the short run it is American consumers paying slightly more for the American made product. Or you self su(king machine. Lord knows you need that. I would suggest an actual girl that you could woon with promises that your multiple cats would adore her and your Mother's basement has flushing commodes...

Lemme ask you a thing, Mr. Lakhota... If everything sold in America, say, toasters had a giant sticker on the front of it...

"Made in America."

or...

"Made in China."

The American toaster was $30 and the China made toaster was $20, at Walmart...

which toaster would you buy?

Tariffs aside. Just a honest sticker. Forget about your cats...

Well?

 

[JimH52]

Yes, it is consumers who end up paying the tariffs! Does anyone disagree?

WE pay the tariffs that the idiot trump is proposing. His economic policies will increase inflation and be yet another tax on middle America. But he wants to maintain the top heavy tax breaks for his rich buddies.

 

[JimH52]

See my multiple and lengthy answering of this question.

The U.S treasury takes in the funds. If a company chooses to pass that on to the consumer that is up to them, you as a consumer don't have to buy Made in China.

Tariffs are VERY popular worldwide. Best applied in my opinion to abusive trade nations or to reciprocate their tariff.

Now I am not a big supporter of tariffs except in strategic situations. As a technical reality though, in short, NO, consumers do NOT pay directly for the tariff.

BS....you are using MAGA rational...which is not rational at all. trump wants to help his rich friends and punish middle America.

 

[ThisIsMe]

No, we equalize the field, you remember equality

Sure, equality within our own borders, I can agree with that. We should be looking to our own country first. That’s how other countries do it, right?

 

[KissMy]

Dimwingers were telling us the world would run out of oil by 2000,

We will never run out of oil. Oil production will decline reversing economic growth unless we get energy from other sources.

If oil production were able to grow with demand, then why does 40% of US liquid fuel in vehicles now come from non-oil sources since 1995??? 40% of our fuels & oils now comes from Biofuels, GTL, CNG & Refinery Gains!!!

Also only 23% is conventional crude oil.

 

[my2¢]

Tariffs are similar to sales taxes. I figure being a geezer, we have few consumer needs and tariffs would mostly affect those in life just starting out on their own.

I grew up hearing that the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act was disastrous. I never studied it but if Trump is elected and pursues tariffs, I'm sure how Smoot-Hawley relates to the world today will be debated by economists.

 

[SweetTea]

DE-REGULATING CORPORATIONS Wont help the working or middle class.
Regulations are there to help PROTECT the working & middle class.
COPORATIONS are making RECORD profits.
They do not need any help.

If their taxes are raised, they will either pass along that cost to the consumer, lay off workers or a combination of both. They have to remain competitive with other corporations from around the world without such high taxes.

I just can’t understand why Democrats are unable to see the irony of not supporting tariffs and at the same time supporting higher taxes on US corporations. Both initially result in higher costs for the consumer, but the main difference is that tariffs ultimately result in more US based businesses while higher US corporate taxes results in less. It is not complicated, but Democrats just can’t seem to figure it out.

 

[Lesh]

We need to spend tens of trillions of dollars so it will be 0.1 degrees cooler in 2100?

Your numbers are fantasy

 

[Lesh]

If their taxes are raised, they will either pass along that cost to the consumer, lay off workers or a combination of both. They have to remain competitive with other corporations from around the world without such high taxes.

I just can’t understand why Democrats are unable to see the irony of not supporting tariffs and at the same time supporting higher taxes on US corporations. Both initially result in higher costs for the consumer, but the main difference is that tariffs ultimately result in more US based businesses while higher US corporate taxes results in less. It is not complicated, but Democrats just can’t seem to figure it out.

Tariffs are targeted. Corp taxes hit all corps WITHIN the nation .

A tariff raises costs on externally produced items making internally produced items more attractive. But if we don’t produce those items in the quantities required they are useless.

 

[billyerock123]

If their taxes are raised, they will either pass along that cost to the consumer, lay off workers or a combination of both. They have to remain competitive with other corporations from around the world without such high taxes.

Not always is the worker laid off what they do is make the cost of their tarring match the cost of the Americans product … example cars … say what you want but a Honda is better than any American made car… so I don’t agree with your statements here … a lot of the time say for example cars the raise the Honda a 100 dollars… they inturn raise the Gm or for or Chrysler cars 100 dollars it offsets the loss but as we all know it raised the cost of the car or what ever they put that tariff on …

I just can’t understand why Democrats are unable to see the irony of not supporting tariffs and at the same time supporting higher taxes on US corporations. Both initially result in higher costs for the consumer, but the main difference is that tariffs ultimately result in more US based businesses while higher US corporate taxes results in less. It is not complicated, but Democrats just can’t seem to figure it out.

now this a typical rant from the right thinking the tarring is a good thing they are the worst thing any leader can do …it makes your cost on what ever they put it on every thing goes up …period did you pay higher taxes last year ??? no you did not … democrats use the taxes in the general fund to pay for their programs … plus’s they go through the CBO to confirm that new prograham not only pays for itself but it makes money for us … something you republicans see to leave out … you just squeal out they are taxing us …

Now for corporations the pay the least amount in taxes of anybody … but cutting their tax us what happens is your taxes have to go up and pay for the loss to the tax base… you guys have this idea the less taxes corporation pay the more money we will get … how’s that bee working for you in 2025 their tax cut ends … cutting your taxes an a corporation doesn’t make it better for you…

 

[jc456]

If their taxes are raised, they will either pass along that cost to the consumer, lay off workers or a combination of both. They have to remain competitive with other corporations from around the world without such high taxes.

I just can’t understand why Democrats are unable to see the irony of not supporting tariffs and at the same time supporting higher taxes on US corporations. Both initially result in higher costs for the consumer, but the main difference is that tariffs ultimately result in more US based businesses while higher US corporate taxes results in less. It is not complicated, but Democrats just can’t seem to figure it out.

They are demofks that’s why

 

[AsherN]

Tariffs are targeted. Corp taxes hit all corps WITHIN the nation .

A tariff raises costs on externally produced items making internally produced items more attractive. But if we don’t produce those items in the quantities required they are useless.

Correct. Tariffs are effective when levied against a limited number of products from a limited number of nations to counter act dumping and to protect existig manufacturing in your country. Imposing broad tariffs against one or more nations as punishment for whatever, when there is no domestic alternative is just inflationary.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Your numbers are fantasy

Post the real numbers.

 

[Dragonlady]

well not a question for me, it's putting americans who lost their jobs for China and Mexico to get their jobs back. I don't care any other piece of it. Fk them using child labor.

These jobs aren't coming back because Americans no longer have the low end skills like sewing, to provide workers to do them. The fabric mills are gone too. And there is no way an American company can make a shirt from American made fabric and sell it for $20.

 

[Lakhota]

 

[Nostra]

Your numbers are fantasy

How much money will it take to have the temp .1 degree cooler in 100 years?