Who Let The Dogs Out?

[irosie91]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions

I never voted for carter and was happy to see him replaced by reagan

But he was not an evil man

right-----just like Obama is not evil----neither was
"UP TO THE JOB"-----nice guys---but not right for
the position. Reagan did not SEEM up to it---but
his "IMPACT" was positive

 

[mudwhistle]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions

I never voted for carter and was happy to see him replaced by reagan

But he was not an evil man

I beg to differ......friend of mine served in the WH when Ford and when Carter were in office. Ford was a nice guy, shook everyone's hand. But when Jimmy took office it was like "a cold wind blowing down the hall to the West Wing" . He was a plantation owner. A Southern Democrat. You only spoke to him when spoken to first. Nobody was allowed to say hello. Same thing with Hillary.

 

[Votto]

So what is worse, a good man supporting evil men or just being evil?

I dont know

carter would say that in spite of the abortion issue democrats are for poor people, social justice, yada, yada, yada

which I totally reject

there is no question that carter was a bad president

he also gave away the panama canal which is now under communist chinese control

so there was much about carter not to like

but even so he was just a typical democrat of that era

So were the National Socialists of Germany in the 1940's as they conducted genocide for money as well.

They just rounded up the Jews, took their gold, and sent them off to die while providing their citizens with the best standard of living in the world.

Abortion is a billion dollar industry and saves women hundreds of thousands of dollars during their life time.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions

I never voted for carter and was happy to see him replaced by reagan

But he was not an evil man

I beg to differ......friend of mine served in the WH when Ford and when Carter were in office. Ford was a nice guy, shook everyone's hand. But when Jimmy took office it was like "a cold wind blowing down the hall to the West Wing" . He was a plantation owner. A Southern Democrat. You only spoke to him when spoken to first. Nobody was allowed to say hello. Same thing with Hillary.

Informative.
Thank you.

 

[Mac-7]

right-----just like Obama is not evil----

Maybe

but obama hates America and carter didnt

 

[irosie91]

right-----just like Obama is not evil----

Maybe

but obama hates America and carter didnt

well------culturally. -----but my description of them still holds up.......i think

 

[JoeB131]

"When the Iranian revolution came to power, with the help of Democratic President Jimmy Carter, the Ayatollah Khomeini killed more human beings (about twenty thousand) in two weeks than had been killed by the Shah during his entire thirty-eight years. Khomeini followed this by sending hundreds of thousands of Iranians to die in the Iran-Iraq war, as martyrdom was needed to resurrect the Islamic Empire."
Paul Berman,

Um... Iraq attacked Iran... not the other way around. So you get that basic fact wrong. One could argue that the Iranians should have gone to the negotiating table sooner than they eventually did... but hardly the cause of the war was on Saddam Hussein for invading.

Your drivel is often entertaining, Happy Ending.

 

[irosie91]

"When the Iranian revolution came to power, with the help of Democratic President Jimmy Carter, the Ayatollah Khomeini killed more human beings (about twenty thousand) in two weeks than had been killed by the Shah during his entire thirty-eight years. Khomeini followed this by sending hundreds of thousands of Iranians to die in the Iran-Iraq war, as martyrdom was needed to resurrect the Islamic Empire."
Paul Berman,

Um... Iraq attacked Iran... not the other way around. So you get that basic fact wrong. One could argue that the Iranians should have gone to the negotiating table sooner than they eventually did... but hardly the cause of the war was on Saddam Hussein for invading.

Your drivel is often entertaining, Happy Ending.

SO? what else is new? Your analysis of the sunni/shiite thing is a bit shallow

 

[JoeB131]

I highly doubt Carter supported that; He just didn't have the fortitude to do what it would take to stop it.
It would have taken a battalion of fully equipped troops at least. I think he sent 2 squads of Rangers.
Carter wasn't a bad man, but #2 bad president of the US in my book.

Uh, guy, we could have sent in a couple of divisions and it wouldn't have saved the Pahlevi Crime Cartel.

Carter made the decision not to keep propping up a regime that was finished. It was the right call.

 

[irosie91]

I highly doubt Carter supported that; He just didn't have the fortitude to do what it would take to stop it.
It would have taken a battalion of fully equipped troops at least. I think he sent 2 squads of Rangers.
Carter wasn't a bad man, but #2 bad president of the US in my book.

Uh, guy, we could have sent in a couple of divisions and it wouldn't have saved the Pahlevi Crime Cartel.

Carter made the decision not to keep propping up a regime that was finished. It was the right call.

It was one of those programs that PRODUCE A VERY BAD IMPACT regardless of the "intentions"

 

[JoeB131]

SO? what else is new? Your analysis of the sunni/shiite thing is a bit shallow

NOt really, because it wasn't a "Sunni/Shi'ite" thing. Most of the soldiers who fought for Iraq were Shi'ites, but they were also Arabs and Iraqis. Saddam saw Iran's weakened position as an opportunity to grab territory, as Iran was an international pariah at that point.

Most of the world, especially the US went along with that, because that would never come back to bite us in the ass. These were the same geniuses who thought a strapping young man named Osama Bin Laden who wanted a scholarship to kill Russians in Afghanistan was a good bet.

So once more, it's our old police of "Sticking our dicks in a beehive and complaining about getting stung".

 

[JoeB131]

It was one of those programs that PRODUCE A VERY BAD IMPACT regardless of the "intentions"

No, it' only produced a very bad impact because of our very stupid policies...

We need to stop mucking around in their internal affairs and stop propping up the Zionists. Then we wouldn't have a problem.

 

[irosie91]

SO? what else is new? Your analysis of the sunni/shiite thing is a bit shallow

NOt really, because it wasn't a "Sunni/Shi'ite" thing. Most of the soldiers who fought for Iraq were Shi'ites, but they were also Arabs and Iraqis. Saddam saw Iran's weakened position as an opportunity to grab territory, as Iran was an international pariah at that point.

Most of the world, especially the US went along with that, because that would never come back to bite us in the ass. These were the same geniuses who thought a strapping young man named Osama Bin Laden who wanted a scholarship to kill Russians in Afghanistan was a good bet.

So once more, it's our old police of "Sticking our dicks in a beehive and complaining about getting stung".

you are very confused------Saddam was BUSY MURDERING SHIITES in Iraq ----just as much as
he was MURDERING KURDS. You got a link to your
claim that MOST OF THE PEOPLE FIGHTING IRAN
were shiites?

 

[Bush92]

His Majesty the Shah was a good man.

That he was overthrown by foolish mobs is a tragedy for the Iranian people. Some of those who helped overthrow the Shah eventually became themselves victims of the religious fanatics who took over Iran.

And, yes, it is disgusting how the United States turned its back on His Majesty when he most needed refuge.

We should have turned the son of a bitch over as a war criminal that he was.

Carter was a pussy that allowed communist to take over Nicaragua and Islamic extremist to take Iran.

 

[irosie91]

It was one of those programs that PRODUCE A VERY BAD IMPACT regardless of the "intentions"

No, it' only produced a very bad impact because of our very stupid policies...

We need to stop mucking around in their internal affairs and stop propping up the Zionists. Then we wouldn't have a problem.

right----the origin of the shiite/sunni conflict is
DA JOOOOS. Interesting Idea----I have actually
known muslims of the sunni persuasion who were taught that SHIITES are influenced by JOOOOS----
in their depraved countries. The slander goes all
the way back to JERK ALI HUSSEIN. As to the
Shiite POV----the reason for a drought in Iran?
THE JEWS ARE STEALING THE CLOUDS

 

[JoeB131]

you are very confused------Saddam was BUSY MURDERING SHIITES in Iraq ----just as much as
he was MURDERING KURDS. You got a link to your
claim that MOST OF THE PEOPLE FIGHTING IRAN
were shiites?

Um, yeah. Most of the Shi'ites he killed were living in the Marsh areas, and that didn't happen until much later in the war.

right----the origin of the shiite/sunni conflict is
DA JOOOOS. Interesting Idea----I have actually
known muslims of the sunni persuasion who were taught that SHIITES are influenced by JOOOOS----
in their depraved countries. The slander goes all
the way back to JERK ALI HUSSEIN. As to the
Shiite POV----the reason for a drought in Iran?
THE JEWS ARE STEALING THE CLOUDS

Somehow, I doubt someone as openly Islamophobic as you are has thoughtful theological discussions with Sunnis or Shi'ites.

 

[irosie91]

you are very confused------Saddam was BUSY MURDERING SHIITES in Iraq ----just as much as
he was MURDERING KURDS. You got a link to your
claim that MOST OF THE PEOPLE FIGHTING IRAN
were shiites?

Um, yeah. Most of the Shi'ites he killed were living in the Marsh areas, and that didn't happen until much later in the war.

right----the origin of the shiite/sunni conflict is
DA JOOOOS. Interesting Idea----I have actually
known muslims of the sunni persuasion who were taught that SHIITES are influenced by JOOOOS----
in their depraved countries. The slander goes all
the way back to JERK ALI HUSSEIN. As to the
Shiite POV----the reason for a drought in Iran?
THE JEWS ARE STEALING THE CLOUDS

Somehow, I doubt someone as openly Islamophobic as you are has thoughtful theological discussions with Sunnis or Shi'ites.

well----you are very wrong. In fact----I was in mosques before you were born

 

[JoeB131]

well----you are very wrong. In fact----I was in mosques before you were born

Unlikely. I was born in 1962. I doubt even you are that old.

 

[mudwhistle]

SO? what else is new? Your analysis of the sunni/shiite thing is a bit shallow

NOt really, because it wasn't a "Sunni/Shi'ite" thing. Most of the soldiers who fought for Iraq were Shi'ites, but they were also Arabs and Iraqis. Saddam saw Iran's weakened position as an opportunity to grab territory, as Iran was an international pariah at that point.

Most of the world, especially the US went along with that, because that would never come back to bite us in the ass. These were the same geniuses who thought a strapping young man named Osama Bin Laden who wanted a scholarship to kill Russians in Afghanistan was a good bet.

So once more, it's our old police of "Sticking our dicks in a beehive and complaining about getting stung".

you are very confused------Saddam was BUSY MURDERING SHIITES in Iraq ----just as much as
he was MURDERING KURDS. You got a link to your
claim that MOST OF THE PEOPLE FIGHTING IRAN
were shiites?

Iran is Shiites....Saudis are mostly Sunni.

 

[Votto]

SO? what else is new? Your analysis of the sunni/shiite thing is a bit shallow

NOt really, because it wasn't a "Sunni/Shi'ite" thing. Most of the soldiers who fought for Iraq were Shi'ites, but they were also Arabs and Iraqis. Saddam saw Iran's weakened position as an opportunity to grab territory, as Iran was an international pariah at that point.

Most of the world, especially the US went along with that, because that would never come back to bite us in the ass. These were the same geniuses who thought a strapping young man named Osama Bin Laden who wanted a scholarship to kill Russians in Afghanistan was a good bet.

So once more, it's our old police of "Sticking our dicks in a beehive and complaining about getting stung".

you are very confused------Saddam was BUSY MURDERING SHIITES in Iraq ----just as much as
he was MURDERING KURDS. You got a link to your
claim that MOST OF THE PEOPLE FIGHTING IRAN
were shiites?

Iran is Shiites....Saudis are mostly Sunni.

So if Iran Shiites alone in the woods does anyone hear it?

I just love philosophy questions