Thank You, Jimmy Carter!

[PoliticalChic]

1. February 1st, 1979 Ayatolah Ruhollah Khomeini arrived in Tehran [the Shah had left for America for cancer treatment] stating: “I beg God to cut off the hands of all evil foreigners and all their helpers.” Summary executions began.



2. October 2, 1979
While Middle-East allies wanted to see a strong US, President Jimmy Carter allowed the dissolution of Iran. On this date, Crown Prince Fahd of Saudi Arabia, said to US Ambassador West in Jeddah, “Instead of pressuring the Shah into bringing his thought and actions up to date so as to pull the rug from under the Communist agitators, you let him go. Look what has happened in Iran! They have killed the cream of their society- the best brains in the military, the professions, and the civil service have all been executed or forced into exile. [And] not a word of caution to Iran from President Carter.”


3. CIA memoranda regarding Khomeini seem to have either been deliberately ignored by the Carter administration or lost in the great governmental paperwork shuffle. One memo flatly stated, “Khomeini is determined to overthrow the shah and is unlikely to accept compromise. … He has cooperated in the past with Islamic terrorist groups.”

Carter viewed Khomeini as a religious holy man in a grass-roots revolution rather than the founding father of modern terrorism. U.N. Ambassador Andrew Young said, “Khomeini will eventually be hailed as a saint.” Iran Ambassador William Sullivan, said, “Khomeini is a Gandhi-like figure.” Adviser James Bill proclaimed in a Newsweek interview in 1979 that Khomeini was not a mad mujahid, but a man of “impeccable integrity and honesty.”


4. Jimmy Carter is among the number clamoring to change the worldview of terrorists from mass murderers of the innocent to “insurgents” or “liberation movements.” He is quick to indict the U.S. at every opportunity and to champion the downtrodden suicide bombers as “martyrs.”"
Welcome back Carter? * WorldNetDaily * by Michael Evans

Welcome back Carter? * WorldNetDaily * by Michael Evans​

... wnd.com



5. .....in one more stunning example of naïveté and poor judgement, Democrat Jimmy Carter installed the blood thirsty Khomeini in place of the Shah.

"When the Iranian revolution came to power, with the help of Democratic President Jimmy Carter, the Ayatollah Khomeini killed more human beings (about twenty thousand) in two weeks than had been killed by the Shah during his entire thirty-eight years. Khomeini followed this by sending hundreds of thousands of Iranians to die in the Iran-Iraq war, as martyrdom was needed to resurrect the Islamic Empire."
Paul Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 108


Placing Carter, correctly, in the Democrat firmament, notice how inseparable murder is from Democrat practice is.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What is it with Democrats needing to siddle up to terrrists and murderers????


Obama inisted that the world;s worst state sponsor of terrorism, Iran, be guaranteed nuclear weapons.


Biden sent them $billions to invest in terrorism and slaughter of Israelies.



What is the explanationi????

 

[mikegriffith1]

If you do any serious, credible reading on Carter and the events leading up to the Iran hostage crisis, you'll discover

-- that Carter actually supported the Shah until close to the end,
-- that a big reason U.S. policy was ineffective was that the U.S. ambassador in Iran went rogue, ignored his instructions, and made ill-advised back-channel contacts, among other misdeeds,
-- that the CIA was giving Carter badly mistaken assessments of the situation in Iran,
-- that it was the Republican establishment that brought enormous public and private pressure on Carter to allow the Shah to enter the U.S. Carter ardently opposed this move, but he finally succumbed to this relentless pressure campaign and let the Shah enter the U.S., which was the event that triggered the taking of our hostages in Iran.

And no one can reasonably say that Carter's response to the taking of American hostages was mild. He crippled Iran's economy with devastating sanctions and publicly threatened severe retaliation if the hostages were harmed, which is why Iran's mullah and thugs despise Carter to this day.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If you do any serious, credible reading on Carter and the events leading up to the Iran hostage crisis, you'll discover

-- that Carter actually supported the Shah until close to the end,
-- that a big reason U.S. policy was ineffective was that the U.S. ambassador in Iran went rogue, ignored his instructions, and made ill-advised back-channel contacts, among other misdeeds,
-- that the CIA was giving Carter badly mistaken assessments of the situation in Iran,
-- that it was the Republican establishment that brought enormous public and private pressure on Carter to allow the Shah to enter the U.S. Carter ardently opposed this move, but he finally succumbed to this relentless pressure campaign and let the Shah enter the U.S., which was the event that triggered the taking of our hostages in Iran.

And no one can reasonably say that Carter's response to the taking of American hostages was mild. He crippled Iran's economy with devastating sanctions and publicly threatened severe retaliation if the hostages were harmed, which is why Iran's mullah and thugs despise Carter to this day.

False.


A small minded, lying Democrat anti-Semite who was able to convince you otherwise.

Believe what you will, the facts are the facts.

 

[mikegriffith1]

BTW, Jimmy Carter reduced the number of federal employees from 3.2 million to 2.9 million, and reduced the number of federal agencies/departments from 1,900 to 1,500. And, as I've mentioned in other threads about Carter, he actually cut the federal budget deficit, which is one reason he added far less debt to the national debt than Reagan, Bush Sr., Bush Jr., Obama, Trump, and Biden.

My bottom line is this: Jimmy Carter was nothing like your typical big-spending, anti-defense Democrat. He simply was not. He was not only the most fiscally conservative president since Eisenhower and JFK, but he increased defense spending in real terms, i.e., after inflation, by over 10% from January 1977 to December 1980.

Jimmy Carter: The Last of the Fiscally Responsible Presidents

Jimmy Carter’s Economy Was Better than You Think

www.historynewsnetwork.org

 

[PoliticalChic]

I consider his being a lying, anti-Semitic Democrat the more important attributes.

 

[mikegriffith1]

I consider his being a lying, anti-Semitic Democrat the more important attributes.

Sorry, but that is just baseless. He was not anti-Semitic in the slightest. Carter proved to be a true friend to Israel. He even suppressed hard intelligence that the Israelis tested a nuclear weapon in the South Atlantic with the cooperation of South Africa in 1979 because he wanted to avoid embarrassing Israel. He pushed Sadat not to demand a halt to Israeli settlements in the West Bank as a condition for granting Israel diplomatic recognition in the Camp David Accords. Carter resisted all calls for reducing aid to Israel, even though he disagreed with Israel over the West Bank and Palestinian autonomy. He never ceased to condemn Palestinian terrorist acts and the PLO's refusal to recognize Israel's existence.

Carter had a great love for Israel and the Jewish people because of his Christian faith. He visited Israel to see the holy sites after he left office.

And as for lying, Carter was arguably the most honest president we've had in modern times.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Sorry, but that is just baseless. He was not anti-Semitic in the slightest. Carter proved to be a true friend to Israel. He even suppressed hard intelligence that the Israelis tested a nuclear weapon in the South Atlantic with the cooperation of South Africa in 1979 because he wanted to avoid embarrassing Israel. He pushed Sadat not to demand a halt to Israeli settlements in the West Bank as a condition for granting Israel diplomatic recognition in the Camp David Accords. Carter resisted all calls for reducing aid to Israel, even though he disagreed with Israel over the West Bank and Palestinian autonomy. He never ceased to condemn Palestinian terrorist acts and the PLO's refusal to recognize Israel's existence.

Carter had a great love for Israel and the Jewish people because of his Christian faith. He visited Israel to see the holy sites after he left office.

And as for lying, Carter was arguably the most honest president we've had in modern times.

I proved that he was. Why are you lying?



"Former US President Jimmy Carter, who has died at the age of 100, had a complex, highly contentious relationship with Jews. Though he pursued some policies that helped Jews while he was in office, Pres. Carter also engaged in breathtaking antisemitism and reflexive anti-Israel rhetoric throughout much of his life.

Planning the US Holocaust Museum - Then Complaining “too many Jews” were Involved


Stopping - then Urging - Boycotts of the Jewish State


. Blaming Jews for Losing the Presidency


Seeking to Pardon a Nazi
In his later years, Carter reinvented himself as a global pundit, supporting left-wing candidates and causes in the US and around the world. He was a born-again Christian and taught Sunday School in his church in the small town of Plains, Georgia, where he grew up. Carter’s anti-Jewish feelings, never far from the surface, became more apparent.


Turning Against Israel
In 2006, Carter published Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid, a bizarre book smearing Israel as uniquely evil and warmongering.


Embracing Antisemitism
As Carter faced criticisms about his slanderous, fact-free book, he doubled down and dismissed critiques of his work with antisemitic language. Emory History Prof. Deborah Lipstadt (and current United States Special Envoy for Monitoring and Combating Antisemitism) noted at the time that “Carter has repeatedly fallen back…on traditional antisemitic canards.”

Jimmy Carter and the Jews: 10 Facts | Aish

President Carter had a complex and contentious relationship with Israel and Jews.

aish.com

 

[whitehall]

In his spare time (which was apparently substantial) Carter managed to give away the Panama Canal for a buck.

 

[PoliticalChic]

In his spare time (which was apparently substantial) Carter managed to give away the Panama Canal for a buck.

I don't see where anti-America agendas have proven to the detriment of Democrat candidates.

Carter is rigth up there were Obama and Biden......the firmament of Democrat luninaries.

 

[whitehall]

I don't see where anti-America agendas have proven to the detriment of Democrat candidates.

Carter is rigth up there were Obama and Biden......the firmament of Democrat luninaries.

Add LBJ to the list of failed administrations. He signed the order to return Iwo Jima back to Japan after about 6,000 Marines gave their lives to take it. It's like giving Arlington back to Robert E. Lee.

 

[mikegriffith1]

I proved that he was. Why are you lying?

"Former US President Jimmy Carter, who has died at the age of 100, had a complex, highly contentious relationship with Jews. Though he pursued some policies that helped Jews while he was in office, Pres. Carter also engaged in breathtaking antisemitism and reflexive anti-Israel rhetoric throughout much of his life.

Planning the US Holocaust Museum - Then Complaining “too many Jews” were Involved

Stopping - then Urging - Boycotts of the Jewish State

. Blaming Jews for Losing the Presidency

Seeking to Pardon a Nazi
In his later years, Carter reinvented himself as a global pundit, supporting left-wing candidates and causes in the US and around the world. He was a born-again Christian and taught Sunday School in his church in the small town of Plains, Georgia, where he grew up. Carter’s anti-Jewish feelings, never far from the surface, became more apparent.

Turning Against Israel
In 2006, Carter published Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid, a bizarre book smearing Israel as uniquely evil and warmongering.

Embracing Antisemitism
As Carter faced criticisms about his slanderous, fact-free book, he doubled down and dismissed critiques of his work with antisemitic language. Emory History Prof. Deborah Lipstadt (and current United States Special Envoy for Monitoring and Combating Antisemitism) noted at the time that “Carter has repeatedly fallen back…on traditional antisemitic canards.”

Jimmy Carter and the Jews: 10 Facts | Aish

President Carter had a complex and contentious relationship with Israel and Jews.

aish.com

Every one of these claims is either outright false or distorted. You clearly have not read Carter's book Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid. I pointed out to you earlier that the book heaps considerable criticism on the PLO and other Arab radicals, that it ardently condemns Arab terrorism against Israel, that it calls on the Arab world to recognize Israel, and that it insists that Israel must have secure and safe borders. I disagree with several statements in the book, but there is much in the book that is commendable.

If Carter was anti-Jewish, it is odd that he appointed four Jews to his cabinet, that he appointed more Jews to positions in his administration than all previous presidents combined, that he met so often with Jewish leaders to hear and address their concerns, that he pressured Sadat to recognize Israel, that he pressured Sadat not to link the issue of the West Bank settlements with recognition of Israel, that he covered up an Israeli nuke test in order to avoid embarrassing Israel, that he forced Andrew Young to resign for secretly meeting with a PLO representative, that he pressured the Soviet Union to allow more Jews to leave the country (and as a result Jewish immigration from Russia increased substantially), etc., etc., etc.

I worked for Jimmy Carter at the White House. He should be remembered as a champion of the Jewish people

I spent thousands of hours working closely with Carter. No American president has done more to advance the safety of world Jewry.

forward.com

Community | Remembering The Positive Changes President Carter Made For Israel — And American Jews

President Carter has a split legacy in the Jewish community, but we should remember the difference he made for Israel and observant American Jews

forward.com

 

[PoliticalChic]

Every one of these claims is either outright false or distorted. You clearly have not read Carter's book Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid. I pointed out to you earlier that the book heaps considerable criticism on the PLO and other Arab radicals, that it ardently condemns Arab terrorism against Israel, that it calls on the Arab world to recognize Israel, and that it insists that Israel must have secure and safe borders. I disagree with several statements in the book, but there is much in the book that is commendable.

If Carter was anti-Jewish, it is odd that he appointed four Jews to his cabinet, that he appointed more Jews to positions in his administration than all previous presidents combined, that he met so often with Jewish leaders to hear and address their concerns, that he pressured Sadat to recognize Israel, that he pressured Sadat not to link the issue of the West Bank settlements with recognition of Israel, that he covered up an Israeli nuke test in order to avoid embarrassing Israel, that he forced Andrew Young to resign for secretly meeting with a PLO representative, that he pressured the Soviet Union to allow more Jews to leave the country (and as a result Jewish immigration from Russia increased substantially), etc., etc., etc.

I worked for Jimmy Carter at the White House. He should be remembered as a champion of the Jewish people

I spent thousands of hours working closely with Carter. No American president has done more to advance the safety of world Jewry.

forward.com

Community | Remembering The Positive Changes President Carter Made For Israel — And American Jews

President Carter has a split legacy in the Jewish community, but we should remember the difference he made for Israel and observant American Jews

forward.com

You've really proven to be quite a fool.


Clearly, bigotry is not a bar to your vote.


I don't feel quite the same way, and I include that in rating Carter as inept, a liar, and an anti-Semite,


BTW, FDR was anti-Semitic, yet had Morganthau in his cabinet.

Henry Morgenthau Jr. was the only Jewish member of President Franklin D. Roosevelt's cabinet. He served as the United States Secretary of the Treasury from 1934 to 1945.



The Socialist Saint, godfather of the current Democrat Party, Franklin Roosevelt was a bigot and a racist, and the one who made certain that cultural Marxism had a home in America.



. "... Roosevelt’s embedded anti-Semitism was not confined to jokes. It was displayed in the refusal of the American government in 1939 to admit the desperate refugees on board theS.S. St. Louis,who were returned to Germany [to their deaths] – or to even fill the quotas that authorized the limited admission of Germans.
It was revealed in American government suppression of information about the mass murder of European Jews.


The White House [read 'Roosevelt'] opposed a resolution to create the War Refugee Board and delayed its establishment for fourteen months.
Orders to bomb railroad tracks leading to the extermination camps were never given, although Nazi facilities merely five miles away were destroyed. And special American missions were launched to rescue art treasures – and performing Lipizzaner horses."
[But not Jews.]
Betrayal: FDR and the Jews

"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "

 

[mikegriffith1]

You've really proven to be quite a fool. Clearly, bigotry is not a bar to your vote. I don't feel quite the same way, and I include that in rating Carter as inept, a liar, and an anti-Semite,

But you keep ignoring the evidence that Carter was a good friend to Israel, and you just keep repeating yourself.

BTW, FDR was anti-Semitic, yet had Morganthau in his cabinet.

I definitely agree that FDR was anti-Semitic. He appointed one Jew to his cabinet. In contrast, Carter appointed four Jews to his cabinet, and appointed more Jews to staff positions than all previous presidents combined. He also appointed 22 Jews to the federal judiciary.

Here's a recent article from the Israeli newspaper Haaretz about Carter's record on Jewish issues and Israel:

Jimmy Carter, the unsung and often reviled hero of the Jewish people

***

www.haaretz.com

Henry Morgenthau Jr. was the only Jewish member of President Franklin D. Roosevelt's cabinet. He served as the United States Secretary of the Treasury from 1934 to 1945.

The Socialist Saint, godfather of the current Democrat Party, Franklin Roosevelt was a bigot and a racist, and the one who made certain that cultural Marxism had a home in America.

. "... Roosevelt’s embedded anti-Semitism was not confined to jokes. It was displayed in the refusal of the American government in 1939 to admit the desperate refugees on board theS.S. St. Louis,who were returned to Germany [to their deaths] – or to even fill the quotas that authorized the limited admission of Germans.
It was revealed in American government suppression of information about the mass murder of European Jews.

The White House [read 'Roosevelt'] opposed a resolution to create the War Refugee Board and delayed its establishment for fourteen months.
Orders to bomb railroad tracks leading to the extermination camps were never given, although Nazi facilities merely five miles away were destroyed. And special American missions were launched to rescue art treasures – and performing Lipizzaner horses."
[But not Jews.]
Betrayal: FDR and the Jews

"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "

I completely agree. FDR betrayed the Jews. No doubt about it. Carter, on the other hand, created a special visa category to enable thousands of Iranian Jews to live in America after the Ayatollah took over. Carter persuaded Israel's most formidable enemy, Egypt, to recognize Israel and to begin trade relations with Israel. Carter covered up Israel's 1979 nuke test in order to avoid embarrassing Israel. Carter resisted calls to cut aid to Israel. Carter berated the PLO for refusing to recognize Israel's right to exist. He pressured the Soviet Union to let more Jews immigrate to other nations. He called on all Arab nations to recognize Israel and to let Israel live in peace.

Given this record, I don't understand how anyone can seriously believe that Carter was anti-Semitic.

 

[mikegriffith1]

In his spare time (which was apparently substantial) Carter managed to give away the Panama Canal for a buck.

Conservative icons John Wayne, William F. Buckley, James Burnham, and Barry Goldwater supported Carter's Panama Canal deal. So did the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff--and not just publicly but also privately. So did the ardent hawk Ellsworth Bunker, who bitterly opposed the Democrats' betrayal of South Vietnam when he was our last ambassador there. Carter's Panama Canal deal was a reasonable, prudent action under the circumstances (many of my fellow conservatives don't seem to know what was happening in Panama at the time).

Getting back to the hostage crisis, the massive Republican campaign to pressure Carter to let the Shah enter the U.S. finally persuaded Carter to take this disastrous step after GOP heavyweights McCloy and Kissinger falsely led Carter to believe that the Shah would die within weeks if he didn't get surgery in America. This was a lie. The Shah was in no danger of imminent death. If the Shah had not been allowed to enter the U.S., the hostages would not have been taken, and the Iran hostage crisis never would have happened.

The bulk of the American side of the blame for the hostage crisis rests squarely on the Republicans. Nearly every prominent Republican was loudly complaining that we were mistreating the Shah by not letting him enter the U.S., that we were turning our back on a loyal ally, etc. We were not mistreating him. We had arranged comfy, luxurious asylum for him outside the U.S. If he'd stayed there, our hostages never would have been taken.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Conservative icons John Wayne, William F. Buckley, James Burnham, and Barry Goldwater supported Carter's Panama Canal deal. So did the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff--and not just publicly but also privately. So did the ardent hawk Ellsworth Bunker, who bitterly opposed the Democrats' betrayal of South Vietnam when he was our last ambassador there. Carter's Panama Canal deal was a reasonable, prudent action under the circumstances (many of my fellow conservatives don't seem to know what was happening in Panama at the time).

Getting back to the hostage crisis, the massive Republican campaign to pressure Carter to let the Shah enter the U.S. finally persuaded Carter to take this disastrous step after GOP heavyweights McCloy and Kissinger falsely led Carter to believe that the Shah would die within weeks if he didn't get surgery in America. This was a lie. The Shah was in no danger of imminent death. If the Shah had not been allowed to enter the U.S., the hostages would not have been taken, and the Iran hostage crisis never would have happened.

The bulk of the American side of the blame for the hostage crisis rests squarely on the Republicans. Nearly every prominent Republican was loudly complaining that we were mistreating the Shah by not letting him enter the U.S., that we were turning our back on a loyal ally, etc. We were not mistreating him. We had arranged comfy, luxurious asylum for him outside the U.S. If he'd stayed there, our hostages never would have been taken.

Another fact that should be mentioned is that during the final stages of the negotiations with Iran in Algiers in mid-January 1980, when it was feared that Iran might renege and then put the hostages on trial for treason, Carter advised his aides that if this happened, he would ask Congress for a declaration of war against Iran and would start hostilities by mining Iran's harbors.

It is worth repeating that our hostages never would have been taken in the first place if the Republicans had not brought enormous pressure on Carter to let the Shah enter the U.S., which pressure included McCloy, Kissinger, and David Rockefeller lying to Carter about the Shah's medical condition. The Republicans waged a massive months-long public campaign to pressure Carter into allowing the Shah to come to America.

Carter correctly feared that letting the Shah enter the U.S. would trigger the Iranians into taking our embassy personnel as hostages. Only after months of the Republicans falsely accusing Carter of "stabbing a loyal ally in the back," "betraying a longtime American ally," "caving in to the Ayatollah," etc., and only after McCloy, Rockefeller, and Kissinger lied to Carter about the Shah's medical condition--only then did Carter finally, against his better judgment, agree to let the Shah enter the U.S. And our hostages were taken just 14 days later.

 

[mikegriffith1]

We conservatives should also keep in mind that Jimmy Carter vocally and openly opposed mandatory busing, much to the chagrin of liberal Democrats. In fact, as governor, Carter signed a Georgia Senate-House resolution that called for an end to forced busing to achieve integration. He was okay with voluntary busing, but not with mandatory busing, in stark contrast to most liberal Democrats. He also voiced support for an appeals court ruling that suspended forced busing.