Who—and How Many—Are the Palestinian Refugees?

P F Tinmore, et al,

I believe you are in error in a number of points.


Sure there were lesser people living there (standard colonialist view of natives) but they had no rights. Of course those are lies.
(COMMENT)

No Western colonial power has colonized the former Mandate of Palestine. Only Islamic/Middle Eastern nations. Jordan even annexed the West Bank once.

Most Respectfully,
R

There you go. You used the term "former Mandate of Palestine" implying that there was no Palestine separate from the mandate. How many times have you heard "former mandate of Lebanon" or "former mandate of Jordan?" Both would be equally as true. So, why did you use that term?

Back on topic.

The Zionists, with the help of Britain, imported foreign settlers by the boatload not to live with the Palestinians but to shove them aside and live in separate colonies. Their stated goal was to create a Jewish state in a country that was only about 7% Jewish. They did it and continue to colonize the West Bank.

How is that not colonial?
 
P F Tinmore, et al,



No Western colonial power has colonized the former Mandate of Palestine. Only Islamic/Middle Eastern nations. Jordan even annexed the West Bank once.

Most Respectfully,
R

There you go. You used the term "former Mandate of Palestine" implying that there was no Palestine separate from the mandate. How many times have you heard "former mandate of Lebanon" or "former mandate of Jordan?" Both would be equally as true. So, why did you use that term?

Back on topic.

The Zionists, with the help of Britain, imported foreign settlers by the boatload not to live with the Palestinians but to shove them aside and live in separate colonies. Their stated goal was to create a Jewish state in a country that was only about 7% Jewish. They did it and continue to colonize the West Bank.

How is that not colonial?

Mr Tin----there was an entity called "MANDATE PALESTINE"---and there is today---
a country called Jordan and a country called Israel. Neither is a country called
'palestine' -----there was not actually a Mandate of Jordan---there was Transjordan
upon which was invented a new country called Jordan ---see? it easy----in the past
there was a place called "'Palestine mandate" and today there is a JORDAN and
an Israel Jordan is newly made country----Israel is a revival of the ancient
KINGDOM OF JUDEA ISRAEL---a name kinda shortened in modern times to
Israel.
As to your "colonial" claim-----Jews who founded what is today the country called
Israel----were not sent by the British. They were jews fleeing both
Christian and Islamic oppression-----to a part of the Ottoman empire----
with the assent of the OTTOMANS . They did what fleeing jews have been
doing for the past 2000 years----they fled to a place where other jews already
resided If you want to say some "power" colonized Palestine -----then that
power was certainly not Britain----you would be more correct in saying that
the OTTOMAN EMPIRE---colonized Palestine-----with jews from within the
OTTOMAN EMPIRE and with jews from Europe and some few others -----ok ?
Israel is an OTTOMAN EMPIRE COLONY which is now independent of the
OTTOMAN EMPIRE ---the brits held it for a short time after the OTTOMAN EMPIRE
lost a big war and fell apart. ----------see how easy is history???
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

May be I misunderstand.

P F Tinmore, et al,

I believe you are in error in a number of points.

Israel has always denied the existence of Palestine and the Palestinians.
(COMMENT)

  • I am not Israeli, I'm American. I don't represent Israel.
  • I don't believe you are correct in your assertion that "Israel has always denied the existence of Palestine." It is a matter of context and the time period.

Most Respectfully,
R

You are joking, right?
(COMMENT)

Of course not.

We all see the exact same facts.

  • 1947: Great Britain decides to relinquish its mandatory role and hand over the Palestine problem to the United Nations. Great Britain announces that it will terminate the mandate on 15 May, 1948.
  • The General Assembly adopts Resolution 181 (II) on 29 November, 1947
  • Arab Higher Committee rejects Partition Plan under Resolution 181 (II) and participation in the implementation.
  • Announcement that on 15th May, 1948, the United Nations Commission will be the Government of Palestine
  • Proclamation on the establishment of the Jewish State in Palestine, to be called Israel declared on the termination of the Mandate at mid-night 14/15 May.
  • General Assembly Resolution 3237 (XXIX) of 22 November 1974, first granting of observer status to the Palestine Liberation Organization.
  • Palestine National Council and the Declaration of Independence of 15 November 1988.
  • UN Affirms the need to enable the Palestinian people to exercise their sovereignty over their territory occupied since 1967.
  • UN grants second status 26 November 2012 - deciding to accord to Palestine non-member observer State status in the United Nations, without prejudice to the acquired rights, privileges and role of the Palestine Liberation Organization in the United Nations as the representative of the Palestinian people, in accordance with the relevant resolutions and practice.

We all see the very same facts; but, we all don't interpret the same meaning to the outcomes and consequences.

In some sense, we expect to see a State of Palestine (the occupied territories) as having some sort of coherent government over a people that want peace and stability and do not advocate Jihadist and Arm Struggle. But that clearly is not the outcome.

No, in fact I'm not joking. Israel understands what has happened, in the timeline of events. What it does not see (I suspect) is a Palestinian State that follows the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations. It see an entity that DOES NOT settle its international disputes by peaceful means, and has for nearly five decades, incited, advocated, furthered and financed, hostile activity. Its principles are:

  • Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine.
  • There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.
  • The Arab Palestinian people, expressing themselves by armed Palestinian revolution, reject all solutions which are substitutes for the total liberation of Palestine and reject all proposals aimed at the liquidation of the Palestinian cause, or at its internationalization.
  • Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.
  • Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement.
  • The partition of Palestine in 1947, and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people.

Therefore, there is room for alternative views on exactly what the entity of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip actually represent.

Remembering that over half the Palestinian Government is dominated by elements THAT ARE UNABLE to refrain from organizing, instigating, facilitating, participating in, financing, encouraging or tolerating terrorist activities and to take appropriate practical measures to ensure that our respective territories are not used for terrorist installations or training camps, or for the preparation or organization of terrorist acts intended to be committed against other States or their citizens.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
Palestinian Territories (Gaza Strip and West Bank including East Jerusalem) 4,420,549

– West Bank 2,719,112[1]

– Gaza Strip 1,701,437[1]

Jordan 3,240,000

Israel 1,658,000

Syria 630,000

Chile 500,000

Lebanon 402,582

Saudi Arabia 280,245

Egypt 270,245

United States 255,000

Honduras 250,000

United Arab Emirates 170,000

Mexico 120,000

Qatar 100,000

Germany 80,000

Kuwait 80,000

El Salvador 70,000

Brazil 59,000

Iraq 57,000

Yemen 55,000

Canada 50,975

Australia 45,000

Libya 44,000

United Kingdom 20,000

Peru 15,000

Colombia 12,000

Pakistan 10,500

Netherlands 9,000

Sweden 7,000

Algeria 4,030


By the way, Wikipedia now says:

Genetic analysis suggests that a majority of the Muslims of Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians, Jews and other earlier inhabitants of the southern Levant whose core may reach back to prehistoric times. A study of high-resolution haplotypes demonstrated that a substantial portion of Y chromosomes of Israeli Jews (70%) and of Palestinian Muslim Arabs (82%) belonged to the same chromosome pool.[31] Since the time of the Muslim conquests in the 7th century, religious conversions have resulted in Palestinians being predominantly Sunni Muslim by religious affiliation, though there is a significant Palestinian Christian minority of various Christian denominations, as well as Druze and a small Samaritan community. Though Palestinian Jews made up part of the population of Palestine prior to the creation of the State of Israel, few identify as "Palestinian" today. Acculturation, independent from conversion to Islam, resulted in Palestinians being linguistically and culturally Arab.[16] The vernacular of Palestinians, irrespective of religion, is the Palestinian dialect of Arabic. Many Arab citizens of Israel including Palestinians are bilingual and fluent in Hebrew.

I remember reading about that, the Palestinians were the original inhabitants who are now being dispossessed by the descendants of Khazar converts to Judaism whose ancestors never came from Palestine in the first place.

Strange twist of historical fate.
 
Amity,
Do you realize the danger you are putting the West Bank Jordanians in?
If any terrorists groups actually believe you, they will slaughter these "Jews".

Israel terrorists have been doing it for along time.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

I believe this is merely more virtual victim analogy.

P F Tinmore, et al,

I believe you are in error in a number of points.

Sure there were lesser people living there (standard colonialist view of natives) but they had no rights. Of course those are lies.
(COMMENT)

No Western colonial power has colonized the former Mandate of Palestine. Only Islamic/Middle Eastern nations. Jordan even annexed the West Bank once.

Most Respectfully,
R
The Zionists, with the help of Britain, imported foreign settlers by the boatload not to live with the Palestinians but to shove them aside and live in separate colonies. Their stated goal was to create a Jewish state in a country that was only about 7% Jewish. They did it and continue to colonize the West Bank.

How is that not colonial?
(COMMENT)

Because it was a Mandate by the Allied Powers, made nearly a century ago. It was not colonization by the Mandate Power; but an avenue to protect and preserve a culture and a people (the Jewish People).

It should also be noted that the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples was not adopted by General Assembly in Resolution 1514 (XV) until 14 December 1960; more than a decade after the establishment of the State of Israel. In 1920 (40 years before the Declaration on Decolonization), the Allied Powers operated much as they had for the previous century. And when they had decided to save, protect and preserve the Jewish Culture - in favor of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, they needed a mechanism by which to achieve and accomplish that objective. Attempting to apply today's concepts to a decision made more than 90 years ago is quite impossible; remembering that two of the four Principal Allied Powers (post-World War I Allied Supreme Council) were still Empires with active colonies.

There you go. You used the term "former Mandate of Palestine" implying that there was no Palestine separate from the mandate. How many times have you heard "former mandate of Lebanon" or "former mandate of Jordan?" Both would be equally as true. So, why did you use that term?
(COMMENT)

It is use when appropriate:

TREATY: The Government of the Arab Republic of Egypt and the Government of the State of Israel said:
Article II

The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel is the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace.

UN MAP NC 547 Armistice Lines of 1949 showing Boundaries of Former Mandate of Palestine

SOURCE: The Government of the Arab Republic of Egypt and the Government of the State of Israel

Lebanon, Jordan, Syria and Egypt are States. During the period between 1948 and 1988, the areas of the West Bank and Gaza Strip were not self-governing states. They were territories of the former Mandate for Palestine. Even today, there are arguments which question whether or not the West Bank and Gaza actually constitute a state.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

I believe you are in error in a number of points.

Israel has always denied the existence of Palestine and the Palestinians.
(COMMENT)

  • I am not Israeli, I'm American. I don't represent Israel.
  • I don't believe you are correct in your assertion that "Israel has always denied the existence of Palestine." It is a matter of context and the time period.

Most Respectfully,
R

You are joking, right?




No he is deadly serious and there are letters of memorandum that show Israel has accepted the existence of Palestine and that Palestine has accepted Israel as THE JEWISH STATE.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

I believe you are in error in a number of points.


Sure there were lesser people living there (standard colonialist view of natives) but they had no rights. Of course those are lies.
(COMMENT)

No Western colonial power has colonized the former Mandate of Palestine. Only Islamic/Middle Eastern nations. Jordan even annexed the West Bank once.

Most Respectfully,
R

There you go. You used the term "former Mandate of Palestine" implying that there was no Palestine separate from the mandate. How many times have you heard "former mandate of Lebanon" or "former mandate of Jordan?" Both would be equally as true. So, why did you use that term?

Back on topic.

The Zionists, with the help of Britain, imported foreign settlers by the boatload not to live with the Palestinians but to shove them aside and live in separate colonies. Their stated goal was to create a Jewish state in a country that was only about 7% Jewish. They did it and continue to colonize the West Bank.

How is that not colonial?



Because they aren't Jordan comes under the mandate of Mesopotamia and Lebanon comes under the mandate of Syria.

And what was the percentage land ownership by the arab muslims , because that is were your 7% figure come from.

For the record Britain stopped all Jewish migration while allowing illegal arab migration from 1945 till 1948.
 
For the record----the BIGGEST JOKE OF THE WEEK

GREAT BRITAIN COLONIZED PALESTINE WITH JEWS
 
Palestinian Territories (Gaza Strip and West Bank including East Jerusalem) 4,420,549

– West Bank 2,719,112[1]

– Gaza Strip 1,701,437[1]

Jordan 3,240,000

Israel 1,658,000

Syria 630,000

Chile 500,000

Lebanon 402,582

Saudi Arabia 280,245

Egypt 270,245

United States 255,000

Honduras 250,000

United Arab Emirates 170,000

Mexico 120,000

Qatar 100,000

Germany 80,000

Kuwait 80,000

El Salvador 70,000

Brazil 59,000

Iraq 57,000

Yemen 55,000

Canada 50,975

Australia 45,000

Libya 44,000

United Kingdom 20,000

Peru 15,000

Colombia 12,000

Pakistan 10,500

Netherlands 9,000

Sweden 7,000

Algeria 4,030


By the way, Wikipedia now says:

Genetic analysis suggests that a majority of the Muslims of Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians, Jews and other earlier inhabitants of the southern Levant whose core may reach back to prehistoric times. A study of high-resolution haplotypes demonstrated that a substantial portion of Y chromosomes of Israeli Jews (70%) and of Palestinian Muslim Arabs (82%) belonged to the same chromosome pool.[31] Since the time of the Muslim conquests in the 7th century, religious conversions have resulted in Palestinians being predominantly Sunni Muslim by religious affiliation, though there is a significant Palestinian Christian minority of various Christian denominations, as well as Druze and a small Samaritan community. Though Palestinian Jews made up part of the population of Palestine prior to the creation of the State of Israel, few identify as "Palestinian" today. Acculturation, independent from conversion to Islam, resulted in Palestinians being linguistically and culturally Arab.[16] The vernacular of Palestinians, irrespective of religion, is the Palestinian dialect of Arabic. Many Arab citizens of Israel including Palestinians are bilingual and fluent in Hebrew.

I remember reading about that, the Palestinians were the original inhabitants who are now being dispossessed by the descendants of Khazar converts to Judaism whose ancestors never came from Palestine in the first place.

Strange twist of historical fate.




Until you do in depth DNA testing on the Ashkenazim Jews and you find the Cohen gene present in the majority. The original Palestinians were the Jews who were there 4,500 years ago, more that 3,000 years before arab muslims appeared on the scene
 
RoccoR said:
Whereas it is true that the "right of self-determination" is an "inalienable right" --- it is not exclusive to the Palestinians. All peoples (including the Israelis) have the right of self-determination.

Show me where any international law states that foreigners can go to another country with guns and claim the right to self determination.
 
RoccoR said:
Whereas it is true that the "right of self-determination" is an "inalienable right" --- it is not exclusive to the Palestinians. All peoples (including the Israelis) have the right of self-determination.

Show me where any international law states that foreigners can go to another country with guns and claim the right to self determination.

Here we go again, with the same repetitive lies!

Every time I read your posts Tinmore, I feel like my IQ decreases.
 
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RoccoR said:
As you can see, in 1948 - the Government of Palestine, under the Mandate, was in the hands of the Mandatory, not the Palestinians; without regard to citizenship. There was no nation of people inside defined international borders of the Mandate Territory.

Even people in non self governing territories have these rights.

  • The right to self determination.
  • The right to independence.
  • The right to sovereignty.
  • The right to territorial integrity.

BTW, the mandate had no territory or borders. It worked inside Palestine's international borders.
 
Even people in non self governing territories have these rights.
  • The right to self determination.
  • The right to independence.
  • The right to sovereignty.
  • The right to territorial integrity.
BTW, the mandate had no territory or borders. It worked inside Palestine's international borders.
"So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population." Winnie Churchill.
Arab settlers from the hood having international borders is so Spaceballs!
 
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RoccoR said:
As you can see, in 1948 - the Government of Palestine, under the Mandate, was in the hands of the Mandatory, not the Palestinians; without regard to citizenship. There was no nation of people inside defined international borders of the Mandate Territory.

Even people in non self governing territories have these rights.

  • The right to self determination.
  • The right to independence.
  • The right to sovereignty.
  • The right to territorial integrity.

BTW, the mandate had no territory or borders. It worked inside Palestine's international borders.

Palestine was short for Mandatory Palestine.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

Again, your statements are questionable in there inference.

RoccoR said:
As you can see, in 1948 - the Government of Palestine, under the Mandate, was in the hands of the Mandatory, not the Palestinians; without regard to citizenship. There was no nation of people inside defined international borders of the Mandate Territory.

Even people in non self governing territories have these rights.

  • The right to self determination.
  • The right to independence.
  • The right to sovereignty.
  • The right to territorial integrity.
(COMMENT)

This may be true. But there is a big difference between having a "right" and exercising that "right." Of the people in the former Mandate for Palestine, the Hashemite Kingdom (1946), the Israelis (1948) and the Palestinian (1988) declared independence.

BTW, the mandate had no territory or borders. It worked inside Palestine's international borders.
(COMMENT)

What are you using as the authority for the establishment of "Palestine's international borders?"

You cannot be using the Treaty of Lausanne. It discusses the Ottoman Empire Sanjaks (administrative divisions of the Ottoman Empire) of Nablus, Acre, the Southern portion of the Beirut Vilayet, and the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem; but not Palestine. The entire area was considered Syria, "from the Mediterranean to the frontier of Persia" -- under the treaty.

The legal commission for the administration of Occupied Enemy Territory named Palestine (a territory within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers - defined by the Palestine Order in Council) was confirmed by the Council of the League of Nations (24 July 1922) and which came into effect on 26 September 1923.

The Franco-British Convention on Certain Points Connected with the Mandates for Syria and the Lebanon, Palestine and Mesopotamia, signed December 1920. It delineates the boundaries between the French Mandates and the Brithish Mandates.

roccor-albums-picture-picture6659-treaty-b-f.png

EXCERPT Franco-British Convention on Certain Points Connected with the Mandates for Syria and the Lebanon said:
The British and French Governments, respectively represented by the undersigned Plenipotentiaries, wishing to settle completely the problems raised by the attribution to Great Britain of the mandates for Palestine and Mesopotamia and by the attribution to France of the mandate over Syria and the Lebanon, all three conferred by the Supreme Council at San Remo, have agreed on the following provisions: —

Article 1

The boundaries between the territories under the French mandate of Syria and the Lebanon on the one hand and the British mandates of Mesopotamia and Palestine on the other are determined as follows: —

On the east, the Tigris from Jeziret-ibn-Omar to the boundaries of the former vilayets of Diarbeki/r and Mosul.

On the south-east and south, the aforesaid boundary of the former vilayets southwards as far as Roumelan Koeui; thence a line leaving in the territory under the French mandate the entire basin of the western Kabur and passing in a straight line towards the Euphrates, which it crosses at Abu Kemal, thence a straight line to Imtar to the south of Jebul Druse, then a line to the south of Nasib on the Hedjaz Railway, then a line to Semakh on the Lake of Tiberias, traced to the south of the railway, which descends towards the lake and parallel to the railway. Deraa and its environs will remain in the territory under the French mandate; the frontier will in principle leave the valley of the Yarmuk in the territory under the French mandate, but will be drawn as close as possible to the railway in such a manner as to allow the construction in the valley of the Yarmuk of a railway entirely situated in the territory under the British mandate. At Semakh the frontier will be fixed in such a manner as to allow each of the two High Contracting Parties to construct and establish a harbour and railway station giving free access to the Lake of Tiberias.

On the west, the frontier will pass from Semakh across the Lake of Tiberias to the mouth of the Wadi Massadyie. It will then follow the course of this river upstream, and then the Wadi Jeraba to its source. From that point it will reach the track from El Kuneitra to Banias at the point marked Skek, thence it will follow the said track, which will remain in the territory under the French mandate as far as Banias. Thence the frontier will be drawn westwards as far as Metullah, which will remain in Palestinian territory. This portion of the frontier will be traced in detail in such a manner as to ensure for the territory under the French mandate easy communication entirely within such territory with the regions of Tyre and Sidon, as well as continuity of road communication to the west and to the east of Banias.

From Metullah the frontier will reach the watershed of the valley of the Jordan and the basin of the Litani. Thence it will follow this watershed southwards. Thereafter it will follow in principle the watershed between the Wadis Farah-Houroun and Kerkera, which will remain in the territory under the British mandate, and the Wadis El Doubleh, El Aioun and Es Zerka, which will remain in the territory under the French mandate. The frontier will reach the Mediterranean Sea at the port of Ras-el-Nakura, which will remain in the territory under the French mandate.​

SOURCE: JSTOR British Parliamentary Command Papers, Misc. No. 4 (1921).

Again, what authority do you use to show the International Borders of Palestine?

Most Respectfully,
R
 
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P F Tinmore, et al,

Again, your statements are questionable in there inference.

RoccoR said:
As you can see, in 1948 - the Government of Palestine, under the Mandate, was in the hands of the Mandatory, not the Palestinians; without regard to citizenship. There was no nation of people inside defined international borders of the Mandate Territory.

Even people in non self governing territories have these rights.

  • The right to self determination.
  • The right to independence.
  • The right to sovereignty.
  • The right to territorial integrity.
(COMMENT)

This may be true. But there is a big difference between having a "right" and exercising that "right." Of the people in the former Mandate for Palestine, the Hashemite Kingdom (1946), the Israelis (1948) and the Palestinian (1988) declared independence.

BTW, the mandate had no territory or borders. It worked inside Palestine's international borders.
(COMMENT)

What are you using as the authority for the establishment of "Palestine's international borders?"

You cannot be using the Treaty of Lausanne. It discusses the Ottoman Empire Sanjaks (administrative divisions of the Ottoman Empire) of Nablus, Acre, the Southern portion of the Beirut Vilayet, and the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem; but not Palestine. The entire area was considered Syria, "from the Mediterranean to the frontier of Persia" -- under the treaty.

The legal commission for the administration of Occupied Enemy Territory named Palestine (a territory within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers - defined by the Palestine Order in Council) was confirmed by the Council of the League of Nations (24 July 1922) and which came into effect on 26 September 1923.

The Franco-British Convention on Certain Points Connected with the Mandates for Syria and the Lebanon, Palestine and Mesopotamia, signed December 1920. It delineates the boundaries between the French Mandates and the Brithish Mandates.

roccor-albums-picture-picture6659-treaty-b-f.png

EXCERPT Franco-British Convention on Certain Points Connected with the Mandates for Syria and the Lebanon said:
The British and French Governments, respectively represented by the undersigned Plenipotentiaries, wishing to settle completely the problems raised by the attribution to Great Britain of the mandates for Palestine and Mesopotamia and by the attribution to France of the mandate over Syria and the Lebanon, all three conferred by the Supreme Council at San Remo, have agreed on the following provisions: —

Article 1

The boundaries between the territories under the French mandate of Syria and the Lebanon on the one hand and the British mandates of Mesopotamia and Palestine on the other are determined as follows: —

On the east, the Tigris from Jeziret-ibn-Omar to the boundaries of the former vilayets of Diarbeki/r and Mosul.

On the south-east and south, the aforesaid boundary of the former vilayets southwards as far as Roumelan Koeui; thence a line leaving in the territory under the French mandate the entire basin of the western Kabur and passing in a straight line towards the Euphrates, which it crosses at Abu Kemal, thence a straight line to Imtar to the south of Jebul Druse, then a line to the south of Nasib on the Hedjaz Railway, then a line to Semakh on the Lake of Tiberias, traced to the south of the railway, which descends towards the lake and parallel to the railway. Deraa and its environs will remain in the territory under the French mandate; the frontier will in principle leave the valley of the Yarmuk in the territory under the French mandate, but will be drawn as close as possible to the railway in such a manner as to allow the construction in the valley of the Yarmuk of a railway entirely situated in the territory under the British mandate. At Semakh the frontier will be fixed in such a manner as to allow each of the two High Contracting Parties to construct and establish a harbour and railway station giving free access to the Lake of Tiberias.

On the west, the frontier will pass from Semakh across the Lake of Tiberias to the mouth of the Wadi Massadyie. It will then follow the course of this river upstream, and then the Wadi Jeraba to its source. From that point it will reach the track from El Kuneitra to Banias at the point marked Skek, thence it will follow the said track, which will remain in the territory under the French mandate as far as Banias. Thence the frontier will be drawn westwards as far as Metullah, which will remain in Palestinian territory. This portion of the frontier will be traced in detail in such a manner as to ensure for the territory under the French mandate easy communication entirely within such territory with the regions of Tyre and Sidon, as well as continuity of road communication to the west and to the east of Banias.

From Metullah the frontier will reach the watershed of the valley of the Jordan and the basin of the Litani. Thence it will follow this watershed southwards. Thereafter it will follow in principle the watershed between the Wadis Farah-Houroun and Kerkera, which will remain in the territory under the British mandate, and the Wadis El Doubleh, El Aioun and Es Zerka, which will remain in the territory under the French mandate. The frontier will reach the Mediterranean Sea at the port of Ras-el-Nakura, which will remain in the territory under the French mandate.​

SOURCE: JSTOR British Parliamentary Command Papers, Misc. No. 4 (1921).

Again, what authority do you use to show the International Borders of Palestine?

Most Respectfully,
R

You post a lot of stuff to smokescreen the issue. But your stuff does not prove your point.

The boundaries between the territories under the French mandate of Syria and the Lebanon on the one hand and the British mandates of Mesopotamia and Palestine on the other are determined as follows: —

If they were hammering out the borders between the mandates, what would be the point of mentioning Lebanon, Syria, Palestine, and Mesopotamia? Actually they were setting the international borders of Palestine and Lebanon, and Palestine and Syria.

These international borders are shown in the map below. They were also referenced in the 1949 armistice agreements that took place almost a year after the mandate left Palestine.

UN_Palestine_Partition_Versions_1947.jpg
 

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